Well, I really like the sound of that But, how do we get to read between these lines? Do you have a better source for what Kojima did or did not say? I'm not trying to be negative, just want more dataOriginally Posted by Ed Oscuro
Well, I really like the sound of that But, how do we get to read between these lines? Do you have a better source for what Kojima did or did not say? I'm not trying to be negative, just want more dataOriginally Posted by Ed Oscuro
What I dont get is why some gamers (even a few here) think that the PS3 is so god-almighty powerful and the 360 is just Xbox1.5 or something.
BOTH THE XBOX360 AND PS3 ARE VERY POWERFUL sure the PS3 will most likely be slightly moreso but thats a given in that it will be released almost a year AFTER the 360.
Anyway I do believe that MGS4 could have been done on the 360 with the same graphical prowess as what the MGS4 demo showed.
Hell ive tried to make the point that the days of one system being much more powerful than another graphic wise in the same generation or looking faaar different (or better) than a rival console are over and have been since the launch of the Dreamcast sure there were obvious differences with the first generation of true 3-D capable consoles i.e. the PSX,N64 and Saturn but that no longer applies to competing current gen consoles and hasnt for many years now.
It comes down to this: 90% of the mutliports done on current gen systems all look basically the same sure the Xbox sometimes has a few more polygons here or there but most ppl see no difference in any of the current 3 PS2,Xbox,Gamecube when it comes to mutliport games and that will remain true well into the next generation for the majority of games released on the PS3 and Xbox360.
Basically all the next gen systems will kick ass and they will all provide DAMN GOOD LOOKING GAMES.
Lets just hope they work on the gameplay and can add great physics and more challenging AI to the games with the humungous amounts of memory that will be available to them with all the next gen systems
Good points Sabre .. with the incredible capabilities of this hardware, the limit of what can be done lies with the developers and producers, not the systems. Amazing games will surface for all of the next-gen systems.
In Microsoft's defense, the screenshots for Gears of War I saw a month back were amazing. The "Xbox 1.5" rap might be hard for Microsoft to shake if the launch titles are underwhelming, but we keep hearing that the 360 launch titles don't even approximate the ultimate abilities of the 360, so why not try to believe? Just a rushjob, I guess.Originally Posted by sabre2922
Well, so far I've just read the topic title! It seems pretty obvious that's what he'd mean in making a statement like that. It seems this is a rather off-the-cuff remark, perhaps (given the press it's giving the 360) one Sony would rather not have been made. Kojima almost assuredly isn't speaking from experience developing MGS4 for the 360, but it seems to me likely that he's talked around and gotten some insights into what the 360's capable of. He's certainly promoting his team's abilities, that's for sure.Originally Posted by arkaign
Well, if you follow the link on the first post, and then watch the video and wait for the comment, it's by these other two guys (didn't notice their names) .. not straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
That's what I meant .. I mean what exactly was truly said? What was the context? What was the question (if there was one) that precipitated such a statement? Etc.
That is unless that is unless we see a lot of lazy development teams, like the on behind Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance on the Xbox.Originally Posted by Arkaign
Even with good coding we're still gonna see a lot of sloppy, sloppy ports.
Bahahahah Xizer
Originally Posted by njiskaWow. Just.....Wow. Never thought I'd see plagarism on a site like this.Originally Posted by Xizer
Ponce De Leon,
Constantly on,
The fountain of youth,
Not Robotron.
Okay, I can't claim to be brilliant here as I just went by the first post...but Kojima definitely said that.Originally Posted by Arkaign
@ Saabmeister. Somebody's got some splainin' to do! P:
Remember now, Mr. Kojima speaks JAPANESE, so anything he says is through interpertation and across the history of the "Japanese invasion" of gaming this HAS led to some missteps in the past. Could always be a bobble there.
Honestly in the end from the genius of Hideo Kojima I'm sure no one will debate that he could pull of pretty much anything in video gaming. As was said, he probably meant "yeah, well, I could have my team have the game in it's current state running on the 360 right now - doesn't mean it'll be that way in a year after more development or we're unhappy with the dev kits, etc. Just I could do it. *shrug/laugh/babble more crap to get people talking about MGS4 even during the XBox360 launch*"
The man is a genius, XBox360 launches in a few days and he's got the gaming world talking about that damn MGS4 trailer still.
Yes, when the evidence is incredibly clear, blame the translation! Occam's Razor in action!Originally Posted by InsaneDavid
Anyway, the guys also mentioned that Kojima developed for the PS3 to differentiate his project from the scores of 360 titles...so it certainly appears that Kojima could simply get in touch with fellow developers (no idea if they're just "across the hall" as he's got his own "studio" these days!) to talk up the current systems.
When taken into account, 360 has many technical advantages that should make it easier to develop for, so even if there is a disparity in capability of performance, 360 makes up in ease of utilization. Remember, you can project theoretical values all you want. It's up to the programmer to make their code as highly threadable as possible.
Saabmeister i'd personally like to thank you for pointing that out especially given the history that Xizer and i have.Originally Posted by Saabmeister
Xizer even copied by misspelling of the word one. and my reapeting of that is at the begining. (see what happens when you make a post at work and have to hide DP from your boss. Really bad english)
I love it when people find things like this.