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    Quote Originally Posted by Clownzilla View Post
    Listen, I even stated in my post that I don't feel that that I am owed anything by Nintendo or any company(read the post). What I am saying is that Nintendo has the means and ability (aka. funding) to make their customers happy by allowing Gamecube and Gameboy Advance games to be logged yet they refuse to do so. This is obviously a sour subject to many Nintendo fans and as a Nintendo fan I reflect that. I just see it as poor customer service and I choose not to support a company that doesn't strive for that satisfaction (especially when they are VERY financially capable to do so). I have to be honest, the ONLY thing that sparks my interest with the points is the Game & Watch DS game (which I would have enough coins for with DS & Wii games alone) so this has nothing to do with me "wanting free stuff". The issue with me is that Nintendo has become (if not already) a low price commodity in the gaming market. Everything from product quality control, customer service, factory productivity is going downhill from here and I don't want to support a company that does not see their customer as #1 priority (be it me or ANY other Nintendo fan......even those who are trash talking me).
    Go use Club Sony then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neuropolitique View Post
    Go use Club Sony then.
    Why? That has nothing to do with my posts. Regardless of clubs or not Nintendo is getting to be a company run completely by accountants and not game developers. Sure, making profit for shareholders IS the reason that Nintendo (or any other public company) exists but if Nintendo want's the money of the increasingly growing disgruntled fan base then they have to realize that they need to give their fans what they want (within reason). Now, it's completely reasonable that Nintendo let players register GBA games and Gamecube games for coins given their extremely large and rapidly growing bankroll. I can see them disallowing Gamcube and GBA games if Nintendo were on the ropes and were gasping for breath but obviously this is not the case. I can easily see Nintendo get in the same position they were in before the Wii. Their going to have some accountant tell them that they can hold back more production, charge more for less of a console, put more restrictions on these "coins", etc. because the fan base is not going to care because they are the mighty Nintendo and they are loved by all and the math on the paper shows that they can't possibly lose. Well, let me tell you this has been the downfall of many companies in the past and the EXACT same monster is starting to show it's ugly head with this "small" administrative decision.
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    Between the Wii and the DS, they've sold 133 million systems this gen, and if anything, sales are speeding up...who is this alleged "increasingly growing disgruntled fan base" you keep mentioning?

    And while I'm at it...if you want GBA games, then I want all my NES and original Game Boy games to count, oh, and I have a card deck then made 50 years ago too!! I WANNA REGISTER THAT TOO, cheapskates! They have to draw a line somewhere... systems that are still alive kinda makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterb23 View Post
    Between the Wii and the DS, they've sold 133 million systems this gen, and if anything, sales are speeding up...who is this alleged "increasingly growing disgruntled fan base" you keep mentioning?

    And while I'm at it...if you want GBA games, then I want all my NES and original Game Boy games to count, oh, and I have a card deck then made 50 years ago too!! I WANNA REGISTER THAT TOO, cheapskates! They have to draw a line somewhere... systems that are still alive kinda makes sense.
    Did you even read all of my posts? I said that I can see why they would not honor any of their systems before Gamecube and Gameboy Advance. That would not be reasonable for Nintendo to do that and that would not be practical. Honoring the Gameboy Advance and Gamecube would be very reasonable. Listen, I don't understand why all of the people thrashing me do not understand that this has NOTHING to do with getting free stuff. It has EVERYTHING to do with how Nintendo is becoming a company STRICTLY run by the bottom line while kicking customer satisfaction to the curb. Nintendo absolutely will not and can not survive if they keep on this path. How long will it take the new Nintendo fans to turn away because of these BS policies? When Nintendo alienates these new "non-gamer" fans then who else can they turn to? I know that the fans in the "hardcore" gamer group are already leaving them in droves. Many purists that hate DLC and refuse to pay $5 for a SMB game are leaving. You have people leaving because a they can't play a Japanese game because it's locked out by territory. People are leaving because they can't even get their hand on a Wii because of a 2+ year factory "shortage". These are REAL sticking points for gamers that can't be ignored. Thrash me all you want but this is happening NOW and there is no way to deny it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clownzilla View Post
    Did you even read all of my posts? I said that I can see why they would not honor any of their systems before Gamecube and Gameboy Advance. That would not be reasonable for Nintendo to do that and that would not be practical. Honoring the Gameboy Advance and Gamecube would be very reasonable. Listen, I don't understand why all of the people thrashing me do not understand that this has NOTHING to do with getting free stuff. It has EVERYTHING to do with how Nintendo is becoming a company STRICTLY run by the bottom line while kicking customer satisfaction to the curb. Nintendo absolutely will not and can not survive if they keep on this path. How long will it take the new Nintendo fans to turn away because of these BS policies? When Nintendo alienates these new "non-gamer" fans then who else can they turn to? I know that the fans in the "hardcore" gamer group are already leaving them in droves. Many purists that hate DLC and refuse to pay $5 for a SMB game are leaving. You have people leaving because a they can't play a Japanese game because it's locked out by territory. People are leaving because they can't even get their hand on a Wii because of a 2+ year factory "shortage". These are REAL sticking points for gamers that can't be ignored. Thrash me all you want but this is happening NOW and there is no way to deny it.
    let me get this straight. Nintendo brings a program to the US that gives away free stuff for buying their games and they are kicking customer satisfaction to the curb? Do you think your posts through before you press submit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clownzilla View Post
    It has EVERYTHING to do with how Nintendo is becoming a company STRICTLY run by the bottom line while kicking customer satisfaction to the curb. Nintendo absolutely will not and can not survive if they keep on this path. How long will it take the new Nintendo fans to turn away because of these BS policies? When Nintendo alienates these new "non-gamer" fans then who else can they turn to? I know that the fans in the "hardcore" gamer group are already leaving them in droves. Many purists that hate DLC and refuse to pay $5 for a SMB game are leaving. You have people leaving because a they can't play a Japanese game because it's locked out by territory. People are leaving because they can't even get their hand on a Wii because of a 2+ year factory "shortage". These are REAL sticking points for gamers that can't be ignored. Thrash me all you want but this is happening NOW and there is no way to deny it.
    You sir are an idiot. Here are the facts.

    NPD November Sales Numbers:

    - Wii - 2,040,000
    • Nintendo DS - 1,570,000
    • Xbox 360 - 836,000
    • PSP - 421,000
    • PlayStation 3 - 378,000
    • PlayStation 2 - 206,000

    Over 2 million Wiis were sold in November ALONE. There is no shortage, there is no conspiracy. They are still flying off the shelves, and they are printing money. Even if Nintendo makes a HUGE Blunder with the "Wii2" there is no way they are going anywhere with all the income made from both the DS and the Wii. Shit while we are at it, lets look at the software sales for November, specifically the top 20 games sold:



    So we have the following:Wii Play, Wii Fit, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Music, Animal Crossing City Folk, Pokemon Ranger, and Mario Kart DS all FIRST PARTY TITLES. Oh yeah just so you are counting, those all are eligible for coins on Club Nintendo. This doesn't include Rock Band and Guitar Hero for Wii which are on that list as well! So out of the top 20 games sold in November, 9 are games for Nintendo Systems.

    Next Note. DLC isn't for purists. It's for Joe Average to relive the games they played in 1985. You want pure? Buy a cartridge. They are making money hand over fist via the Virtual Console.

    Short point, NO ONE IS LEAVING except a very small percentage. In fact, they are gaining more and more fans that have never been exposed to videogames by the SECOND. If YOU want to leave Nintendo, then fine go ahead and do so. But 2.04 million people who bought the Wii last month are staying.

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    How do you register games that do not have a serial number card? My only Wii games that have one are Zelda and Super Smash Brothers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle15 View Post
    How do you register games that do not have a serial number card? My only Wii games that have one are Zelda and Super Smash Brothers.
    You can't, dunno about the future though I doubt they will have a system to register games without the card. They won't know if you actually have the game or went to a store and copied the sku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle15 View Post
    How do you register games that do not have a serial number card? My only Wii games that have one are Zelda and Super Smash Brothers.
    I actually called Nintendo about this. They said the only way is to send them the UPC codes from the cases of the games you bought that didn't come with the PIN number, along with a note stating your name/address/etc.

    I kinda want to send them in, but I don't really want to cut up my inserts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterb23 View Post
    Between the Wii and the DS, they've sold 133 million systems this gen, and if anything, sales are speeding up...who is this alleged "increasingly growing disgruntled fan base" you keep mentioning?

    And while I'm at it...if you want GBA games, then I want all my NES and original Game Boy games to count, oh, and I have a card deck then made 50 years ago too!! I WANNA REGISTER THAT TOO, cheapskates! They have to draw a line somewhere... systems that are still alive kinda makes sense.
    I'd settle for all my DS and Wii stuff being recognized. Sure, it'd be nice if they did the same for GC and GBA stuff as they came with the codes and all, but I'd settle with what systems they are currently supporting for now.

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    I own two copies of Animal Crossing for the DS. It's a supported game that should give 30 coins. I paid full price for both copies. I registered one copy and got full points for it. I tried to register the second copy and it won't let me. It tells me that I've already registered that game.

    What does it care? I paid for the game. I've got a valid PIN to register, yet I'm being screwed because I'm an (overly) loyal customer. what the hell? At first I was going to register an account for my wife and register it under hers, but I want the points in my account and she'll never accumulate enough points to make it worth giving her an account.

    Is there any way to resolve this? Would making a family account help?

    edit: It looks like a family account should help. I think it allows members in the family group to share coins between accounts, so I could create an account for my wife, register the game in her name, and basically treat those coins as my own. Can anyone confirm this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by c0ldb33r View Post
    Is there any way to resolve this? Would making a family account help?

    edit: It looks like a family account should help. I think it allows members in the family group to share coins between accounts, so I could create an account for my wife, register the game in her name, and basically treat those coins as my own. Can anyone confirm this?
    From what I read(awhile ago) it won't help you get points. You'd be able to register the extra game by creating a family account, but you wouldn't be able to get points for it. I'll try to find where I read this, I hope I'll find it again.

    I haven't registered any of my games yet, all I want is that Game and Watch game but there's no way that I would have enough first party games to get it. I would have kept an eye out for cheap games just so I could register them, but seeing that I can only register 1 copy for each game, I wouldn't bother. Maybe I'll get enough someday, until then I won't register.

    Edit: I found it in the FAQ, I was right.
    Why can't I register more than one of any product in my Club Nintendo account?
    You can register as many of any one product (systems or games) as there are members in your Family Account. Please note that only the first game registered will be eligible for the survey and Coins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nintendo, as quoted by Gameguy
    Why can't I register more than one of any product in my Club Nintendo account?
    You can register as many of any one product (systems or games) as there are members in your Family Account. Please note that only the first game registered will be eligible for the survey and Coins.
    Goddamnit! Why would they do that? I paid for the damn thing twice I should get points for each purchase.

    I can understand not giving points for older systems because they don't make money off of that, but come on, if I purchase Smash Bros. Brawl 10 times, they make 10 times the money and I should get 10 times the coins. Fuck that Nintendo, Fuck that.

    Gameguy, I'm not shooting the messenger here, I do really appreciate the help. Thanks for the finding that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clownzilla View Post
    Why? That has nothing to do with my posts. Regardless of clubs or not Nintendo is getting to be a company run completely by accountants and not game developers. Sure, making profit for shareholders IS the reason that Nintendo (or any other public company) exists but if Nintendo want's the money of the increasingly growing disgruntled fan base then they have to realize that they need to give their fans what they want (within reason). Now, it's completely reasonable that Nintendo let players register GBA games and Gamecube games for coins given their extremely large and rapidly growing bankroll. I can see them disallowing Gamcube and GBA games if Nintendo were on the ropes and were gasping for breath but obviously this is not the case. I can easily see Nintendo get in the same position they were in before the Wii. Their going to have some accountant tell them that they can hold back more production, charge more for less of a console, put more restrictions on these "coins", etc. because the fan base is not going to care because they are the mighty Nintendo and they are loved by all and the math on the paper shows that they can't possibly lose. Well, let me tell you this has been the downfall of many companies in the past and the EXACT same monster is starting to show it's ugly head with this "small" administrative decision.
    What are you even talking about? Because Nintendo is doing well as a company they should give you free shit? That makes no sense, specially with the world's economies as they are. Why do you feel so entitled?

    This is a voluntary program that gives you free stuff for games you probably already own. If you don't like it, don't participate.

    You know, after reading your posts I feel entitled to something free. From now on I will collect one coin for every one of your posts. Unfortunately for me this does not include posts prior to May 1, 2008. When I collect enough coins I will redeem them for some free stuff. The stuff you have sucks, so I'll be forced to save my coins hoping for something better in the future. This program sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neuropolitique View Post
    You know, after reading your posts I feel entitled to something free. From now on I will collect one coin for every one of your posts. Unfortunately for me this does not include posts prior to May 1, 2008. When I collect enough coins I will redeem them for some free stuff. The stuff you have sucks, so I'll be forced to save my coins hoping for something better in the future. This program sucks.
    Go use Club GameFAQs then.

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    ooooo burn.

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    So it tells me that my My Nintendo account was transfered over to Club Nintendo, but then when i go to log in, i get this every time:

    "Welcome to Club Nintendo. Transferring your My Nintendo account to Club Nintendo is easy, but we may need some additional information to complete the process. Please click "Join Club Nintendo Now" to continue. NOTE: Make sure to provide the email address associated to your My Nintendo account to successfully transfer your account."

    This sucks because i had around 300 games registered, including Virtual Console games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clownzilla View Post
    Why? That has nothing to do with my posts. Regardless of clubs or not Nintendo is getting to be a company run completely by accountants and not game developers. Sure, making profit for shareholders IS the reason that Nintendo (or any other public company) exists but if Nintendo want's the money of the increasingly growing disgruntled fan base then they have to realize that they need to give their fans what they want (within reason). Now, it's completely reasonable that Nintendo let players register GBA games and Gamecube games for coins given their extremely large and rapidly growing bankroll. I can see them disallowing Gamcube and GBA games if Nintendo were on the ropes and were gasping for breath but obviously this is not the case. I can easily see Nintendo get in the same position they were in before the Wii. Their going to have some accountant tell them that they can hold back more production, charge more for less of a console, put more restrictions on these "coins", etc. because the fan base is not going to care because they are the mighty Nintendo and they are loved by all and the math on the paper shows that they can't possibly lose. Well, let me tell you this has been the downfall of many companies in the past and the EXACT same monster is starting to show it's ugly head with this "small" administrative decision.
    I think you are missing the real point of this program, which is to gather data from the surveys regarding advertising methods.

    What possible value can obtaining advertising data from two platforms declared dead 2-3 years ago give Nintendo? The data is obviously outdated, and the incredibly vast majority of what people enter would be hazy as memory blurs over time - making it useless.

    Adding older games to their system adds absolutely no value to the company or the consumer, even if you think it does.

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    i was having the same problem alot of people had, after merging the old club with the new it would take me back to the login page, which was solved when i used firefox, anyway i was able to take the surveys and am now at platinum status, but i havent merged my wii vc games yet.

    hopefully theyll offer the wii sfc controller. also looks like your points expire once a year around the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dairugger View Post
    also looks like your points expire once a year around the summer.
    They expire? Fuck that then. I don't buy enough Nintendo stuff to ever make this worth the effort. Considering a simple game case costs 300 coins, how many games a year do they think people buy?

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