Marvel vs Capcom 3

[The 1 2 P]

Also reports from Kotaku are saying just above 30 characters...that is no where near enough. If they just added onto MvC 2 they could have had double that roster's size.


If this turns out to be true I'll be passing for sure. I was hoping for 100ish but at least 80. If they can't at least give us what we had in MvC2 they shouldn't bother with 3.


My hope is that they are saying "30+" just for now. I predict that roster grows immensely before release. If you remember when MvC2 came out the roster was pretty scarce until all of the unlockables were found out. There is no way they can get by with a 3v3 fighting game with just 30-40 characters, and Capcom knows this.

Apparently theres this new revolutionary technique that companies are using this gen called DLC. Well, revolutionary if you like actually paying more for the game you already bought.

While I'm pretty sure there will be more than 30 characters at launch, it just wouldn't be a proper Capcom fighting game without some DLC character milking. It's either that or future versions of the same game(Super MVC3, Super Alpha Turbo MVC3 Extended Cut, etc) with added characters.

[ubersaurus]

I don't think capcom has even touched on DLC characters in any of their fighters, just new outfits and stuff. Seriously though, 30+ characters is plenty if it is a 2v2 game. 3v3 I could see them bumping that up, but 80-100 characters? Really? That game would be broken as shit.

[Cryomancer]

I assume it's 30 characters now, and then they'll just add about as many as they find time for / enough Capcom characters to match whatever they liscense from Marvel.

[MrRoboto19XX]

I assume it's 30 characters now, and then they'll just add about as many as they find time for / enough Capcom characters to match whatever they liscense from Marvel.

That's what I'm hoping for, Capcom could make this something really speacial. I'm just hoping that they retain the cartoony feel of the earlier titles, I'd much prefer bright comic styled characters over "realistic" styles.

The real question is weather Capcom will make it worthwhile, or are they gonna take us for a ride?

[Vlcice]

Part of the endearing part of MvC2 is it took pretty every character from the Marvel line of fighting games (Xmen COTA through MvC1) and pasted them into the game. Redoing them all in 3D just kinda ruins that.

As much as I'm excited for it, I am leary just because it's not 2D.

If you want a million characters and don't care about balance you can just play Mugen, you know.


I don't think capcom has even touched on DLC characters in any of their fighters, just new outfits and stuff. Seriously though, 30+ characters is plenty if it is a 2v2 game. 3v3 I could see them bumping that up, but 80-100 characters? Really? That game would be broken as shit.

No kidding. There's no way it could have that many characters and be even vaguely balanced. They obviously had a huge amount of difficulty balancing the number of characters in MVC2, much less going higher than that.

Anyway, KOF has always worked well with 30-40 characters in 3v3.

[portnoyd]

If you want a million characters and don't care about balance you can just play Mugen, you know.

When I did say I didn't care about balance?

Not to say MvC2 is balanced, which it's not.

If I wanted to play a piece of shit made by a dozen 14 year olds with massive hard-ons for Mai's boobs, I'd play Mugen.

Then again, Mugen has Omega Tom Hanks... so maybe I will play Mugen instead.

[Drexel923]

There was absolutely no chance this game was going to be 2D. Anyone who thought so was deluding themselves.

Seriously, why would they make it 2D? The only reasons would be A) to reuse a bunch of ancient low resolution sprites that would have looked like total crap in a full-price retail game in 2011 or B) to appease the fanboys who are scared of change.

With 3D models, there is far more versatility. They can easily steal motions for other characters (even just simple fall and walk animations and such), modify existing animations to speed up development, change the look of a character without having to redraw everything, and release new costumes that they can sell over XBLA. This also allows them to use cinematic camera angles during things like super combos, win poses, etc.

I remember everyone shitting their pants when SF4 was going to be 3D, and that turned out alright... kept the gameplay intact, and brought the series to a newer audience who likely wouldn't have bought in to a new 2D game.

If you don't want it to be different, then just keep playing MvC2.

--Zero

I don't mind 3D models, I like SF IV alot. My problem is by making this switch they are giving us less to choose from. The same thing happened between KoF 11 and 12. But my comments on TvC still stand, if this plays like that game then I think it's a bad move.

[lookfun78]

Since marvel bought disney this game is going to half to have more than 80, but if an arcade version you can see why not more than this and include theses disney characters and be in 3d. If not in 3d this is just going to be a new game just to include characters they could have had in mvc2. Also any word yet if there will be an arcade version of this. If there is the small arcade scree they used of mvc 1 and 2 will result in this being an 80 only. They won't have a home versions have more characters than the arcade because if they did there will be less than 90% of mvc players sticking to the home just for the bigger roster. Also any ideas on a boss will it be like mvc with only 1 or mvc 2 with 3 or will it be a 3 on 3 boss meaning the boss can switch during play.

[MarioMania]

Now this game coming out..put Marvel vs Capcam 2 as a Bonus Disk as a Pre-Order

[Ze_ro]

Since marvel bought disney
Other way around. Disney bought Marvel.


this game is going to half to have more than 80
This will never happen. Not even if they spend 2 years releasing new characters as DLC, the roster will never be that large.


why not more than this and include theses disney characters and be in 3d.
This will also never happen. It's MARVEL vs. Capcom, not Disney vs. Capcom. Besides, there's no reason to resort to Disney characters when there are literally thousands of appropriate characters in the Marvel universe already.


If not in 3d this is just going to be a new game just to include characters they could have had in mvc2.
It's definitely, 100% confirmed that the game will be 3D.


They won't have a home versions have more characters than the arcade because if they did there will be less than 90% of mvc players sticking to the home just for the bigger roster.
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom had fewer characters in the arcade version. Even in the original Japanese release (Cross Generation of Heroes), the Wii version had four extra characters... when Ultimate All-Stars came out, they added even more on top of that.

Also, I'm not sure about Japan, but arcades are almost completely dead in North America, so I'd say 99.9% of MvC players are going to stick with the home version no matter what happens.

--Zero

[Cryomancer]

Who gives a shit about the balance in MvC? It's a game you play with your friends and fulfill silly "who would win" scenarios and retarded teamups. Not every fighting game ever made has to be a serious competition fighter for the tournament players.

Throw in as much shit as you want Capcom. Then throw in a layer of secret recolor sub-characters too.

[ubersaurus]

Who gives a shit about the balance in MvC? It's a game you play with your friends and fulfill silly "who would win" scenarios and retarded teamups. Not every fighting game ever made has to be a serious competition fighter for the tournament players.

Throw in as much shit as you want Capcom. Then throw in a layer of secret recolor sub-characters too.

The competitive base has effectively kept the Marvel games in the public eye for the past 10 years. I would think that THEY care. The entire concept of a fighting game is competitive, why wouldn't you want to make something that would be good for multiplayer?

If the game is broken, then no one is going to want to play in tournaments for it, and not many casual players are going to want to play because they'll have to deal with people whoring out the best characters. You already kind of see this with Marvel 2 online (or even locally, with people who learned just how to do Cable's super in the air). And you want more of that?

[portnoyd]

If the game is broken, then no one is going to want to play in tournaments for it, and not many casual players are going to want to play because they'll have to deal with people whoring out the best characters.

Doesn't that happen for every fighting game, yet it has no affect on the amount of people who play it?

One of my favorite guilty pleasures is beating a Cable player that has no game besides AHVB. So nice, but it can be difficult.

[kupomogli]

Doesn't that happen for every fighting game, yet it has no affect on the amount of people who play it?

It makes it less fun. On Street Fighter 4 when playing on ranking, atleast every other person played as Sagat and would do nothing but turtle the entire time, making the match that much more difficult. Granted that all these people knew were to keep themselves safe while turtling with what mid range attacks worked best, but once you actually got up on them they didn't know what to do other than run away and start turtling again. Then once you damage them enough for Sagat to get his super and they get in a safe position to keep turtling, you have to be really careful what to do then because one wrong move on your part that super is going to end the round.

[Red Warrior]

Who gives a shit about the balance in MvC? It's a game you play with your friends and fulfill silly "who would win" scenarios and retarded teamups. Not every fighting game ever made has to be a serious competition fighter for the tournament players.

Throw in as much shit as you want Capcom. Then throw in a layer of secret recolor sub-characters too.

THIS... with BACON!

[portnoyd]

It makes it less fun. On Street Fighter 4 when playing on ranking, atleast every other person played as Sagat and would do nothing but turtle the entire time, making the match that much more difficult.

The same thing happens with all the top tier teams in MvC2 on XBL. Not turtling, but the same strats. I'm sure just like in MvC2, those cookie cutter strats can be overcome and it makes it that much satisfying.

The Sagat thing is just like Cable. When he has levels of super, you bide your time and make your opponent waste it. At high levels of play, it's hard to overcome. But a random scrub on XBL? It really is just a matter of time.

[ubersaurus]

Doesn't that happen for every fighting game, yet it has no affect on the amount of people who play it?

One of my favorite guilty pleasures is beating a Cable player that has no game besides AHVB. So nice, but it can be difficult.

It really depends. One of the reasons Capcom vs SNK 2 died out was because the top characters were pretty overpowering, whether or not you were particularly good with them. A good player can take down a bad Sagat, but otherwise it's really hard to get around someone who is just throwing fierces out there if you aren't really into the game. And Snk vs capcom, which had some good hype going for it, died really quick once everyone realized how broken the bosses were (and if you just use the normal characters, Tessa is ridiculously good too).

Contrast to 3rd Strike, which took years to get as popular as it did, and it arguably has crappier balance than CvS2 did. First time I played Chun Li in that game, which I had barely ever touched mind you, I beat one of the better players around here with little more than low medium kick into kick super. It's a really shitty game at high levels, but it still has its defenders. Like Marvel and CvS2, I'd argue it only last as long as it did because Capcom didn't put out anything good for like eight years.

[Cryomancer]

Soul Calibur 4 is a constant spamfest of the longer ranged characters (read: Kilik, Nightmare, Siegfriend, I guess the long range girls are 'for fags' or something) on xbox live. Didn't stop people from playing tons of that.

Besides, if there are certain characters that are declared to be so unbalanced they ruin the entire "scene" or whatever, all it takes is a simple "you can't use this guy" rule. Pokemon does it all the time.

[ubersaurus]

Soul Calibur 4 is a constant spamfest of the longer ranged characters (read: Kilik, Nightmare, Siegfriend, I guess the long range girls are 'for fags' or something) on xbox live. Didn't stop people from playing tons of that.

Besides, if there are certain characters that are declared to be so unbalanced they ruin the entire "scene" or whatever, all it takes is a simple "you can't use this guy" rule. Pokemon does it all the time.

SC4 was, for a while, based around Hilde and her ability to ring out her opponent from practically anywhere. Counter strategies have since been developed, but the game went into a pretty notable decline after last summer. I do recall a lot of people griping about that character and giving up the goose on that game.

Character bannings are rare for arcade fighters. Offhand I can only think of Street Fighter 2 Super Turbo and HD Remix's Akuma, and in the latter case, it was not without a lot of controversy (in ST's case, it only happened after a lengthy period of time where he was legal in tournaments). The general thinking is that if the game isn't balanced enough to play without banning characters and techniques then it isn't worth playing. Unlockable bosses tend to be thought of differently if no effort was made to balance them, but that's usually only a concern on console games.

Is there a competitive Pokemon scene? I just know that as far as fighters go online, there are rarely any systems in place to keep people from picking broke characters, which is why when I tried SVC online I played nothing but people using the final boss characters - who aren't even playable on the Neo Geo version!

[kupomogli]

Spamfest with Nightmare? He's one of the worst characters in the game. Namco practically raped the character. No longer is Nightmare the character he was in Soul Calibur 2. His moveset was split with half his moves given to Siegfried, the other half given to Nightmare and then some additional moves added onto Nightmare for SC3. On SC3 though, Nightmare was still just as damaging and quick recovery.

SC4 though? Same character as SC3 except his attack power is drastically decreased. You'll never see any of his attacks reach half the amount of Astaroths most damaging attacks. If you miss with Nightmare you're pretty much screwed because he has a terrible recovery time now. Pretty much any character gets close and keeps spamming the quickest combo they've got, especially high low high combos repeatedly(Cassandra) and he's done. Also. You can't play online with him either unless both of you have a perfect connection.

If you want to talk about an unbalanced game with few characters. Soul Calibur 4 is definitely my pick. Two thirds of the characters aren't worth using, the other third, the close range quick characters, Cervantes, Cassandra, Amy, Taki, Mitsirugi, etc, and then Kilik are the only ones really worth still playing as.

[jaydubnb]

Rumors have a strange way of becoming the truth.

Here's hoping this one does.

AND I WANT MACHINE MAN AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER, DAMMIT!!!
http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/0/7/0/9/4/webimg/1116943.jpg

Lulzzz....I would totally mark out if Capcom totally dug into the vaults and pulled out Star Brand or even The Beyonder or Phoenix as a boss battle! The most popular of the popular will make their ways in, but they gotta show love to some of the lesser known peeps, too.

My wishlist: http://www.2d-x.com/marvel-vs-capcom-3-five-must-have-marvel-characters-capcom-should-consider/

[Cryomancer]

Yeah, there is a rediculous competative pokemon scene. I believe much of it is based around this place: http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/ Funny thing is most of these guys use a battle simulator instead of the real games anyway supposedly.

I'm not into it myself. I like games too much to play them "for reals" or whatever. I prefer to enjoy them and take it easy and have a good time personally.

[Tron 2.0]

Now this game coming out..put Marvel vs Capcam 2 as a Bonus Disk as a Pre-Order
I hope MvsC3 includes this ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA

"Oh he's so pringles!!"

[Famidrive-16]

I tried to get into the Pokemon battling thing for a bit but it was waaay too time consuming and a lot of the scene is really disorganized. That, and like Cryo said, everyone's pretty much theory-battling on the ShoddyBattle application. TheKillerNacho (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheKillerNacho) has some high level *actual game playing* if you want to see how battling tends to go.

In the end, it really depends on a scene/hype if a game's gonna last, not balance. MvC2, 3S, CvS2 are all broken as shit but they've all managed to survive many years due to how big interest got for those games.

[Vlcice]

I hope MvsC3 includes this ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA

"Oh he's so pringles!!"

Yipes needs to be the official announcer.

[Nirvana]

I hope Cammy's in the game. I know they're restricting the roster, but they need to have her in the game so my team of Cammy, Megaman, and Wolverine can return.

[The 1 2 P]

Not sure if this was mentioned yet but theres an online peition to have Stan Lee included as a playable character. That would probably be the weakest character in the game but as long as they let him do a few voice overs I'm down.

[Famidrive-16]

I hope not.

[Jorpho]

They can put in Stan Lee only if they also put in Dan.

Or better yet, to keep things fresh: Evil Dan!

[ubersaurus]

Stan Lee vs Norimaro.

[portnoyd]

Or better yet, to keep things fresh: Evil Dan!

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/jizzinpants.jpg

[Tron 2.0]

Yipes needs to be the official announcer.
Agreed he would add flavor to it ;)

[lookfun78]

Check out xbox 360 sentuamessage video for this week to find out that in spring of 2011 MvC 3 will come out. Also see some footage of the game plus get some charaters in the game like deadpool, doom, and ryu. So again that is sentuamessage video on xbox 360 for more info on other charaters and game footage.

[PapaStu]

Check out xbox 360 sentuamessage video for this week to find out that in spring of 2011 MvC 3 will come out. Also see some footage of the game plus get some charaters in the game like deadpool, doom, and ryu. So again that is sentuamessage video on xbox 360 for more info on other charaters and game footage.

Seriously? A new thread for this? Why didn't you just bump the other thread that you made about the release of the game?

**Merged**

[Parodius Duh!]

MAN-THING better be in this....Otherwise I dont give a crap.

[diskoboy]

Add Sega's Bayonetta to the lineup.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/06/marvel-vs-capcom-3-nearing-development-climax/

[kupomogli]

Adding Bayonetta is stupid. The entire reason it's called Marvel vs Capcom is because it has properties from Marvel and then it has properties from Capcom. Sure Bayonetta may have been developed by people who USED TO work for Capcom, but it's not a Capcom game.

They should change the name since it's no longer Marvel vs Capcom. Marvel vs Capcom vs Sega 3.

[diskoboy]

They should change the name since it's no longer Marvel vs Capcom. Marvel vs Capcom vs Sega 3.

I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Space Harrier kicking Chun-Li's and Iron Man's asses.... I'm smiling just thinking about it.

[Blur2040]

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[Ze_ro]

The joke was because Sega used the word "climax" a lot in the Bayonetta advertising... phrases like "non-stop climax action" and whatnot.

In reality, I think the climax actually refers to After Burner Climax... surely this means they're adding the F-14 Tomcat to the list of characters.

--Zero

[Blur2040]

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[lookfun78]

Two more fighters not seen in the gamestop trailer and announced during x play by g4 feed is deadpool and captain america.

[kedawa]

They should have Stan Lee as the announcer.
It would be cool if they made the last boss some sort of super cross-over freak, like Mecha-Hitler infected with the T-Virus and Akuma's 'satsui no hadou' power, wearing spiderman's alien costume.

[TheClash603]

How come there is never any Red Skull love in these games?

Why isn't there a massive outcry over how crappy the Tatsunoko vs Capcom control will ruin the game?

As much as I want to be excited, I just can't be... yet...

[Famidrive-16]

Why isn't there a massive outcry over how crappy the Tatsunoko vs Capcom control will ruin the game?



um, it's been confirmed by Seth that it's still the MvC2 setup

lol

[kedawa]

The name of one particular button is the cornerstone of MvC3's marketing campaign, apparently.
It's really gonna build hype, that button name is.

[kedawa]

http://www.hadoken.net/?p=1672

[lookfun78]

This 4 page preview of mvc 3 has game play screen shots, a wish list of characters a character bio on all characters announced so far plus more. Theses screen shots also seen here http://www.giantbomb.com/marvel-vs-capcom-3-fate-of-two-worlds/61-30944/game-informer-has-first-in-game-screen-shots-of-mvc3/35-415817/ just scroll down to see them and yes that's all of the ones shown in game informer. To find out more on mvc 3 check out this month game informer for more info.

[portnoyd]

Seriously dude, PUT THIS SHIT IN THE MVC3 THREAD. This is like the fourth time you've done this. How stupid are you?

[Trumpman]

Are you getting paid by Capcom or something?

[lookfun78]

I want this closed since this is starting to get off the original topic plus any new information I post about this mvc 3 is like a whole new topic. So someone please close this form me.

[JimmyDean]

Shit, man! You're seriously obsessed with MVC3. What have you made, like 5 threads about it already? Here's a novel idea: PUT IT IN YOUR EXISTING MVC3 THREAD, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

[portnoyd]

You're fucking retarded.

[JimmyDean]

You're fucking retarded.

It's true lookfun78. Everyone thinks you're an asshole. I guarantee that if you post again about MVC3, you'll probably be banned or something. Seriously, we all know that MVC3 is coming out, that doesn't mean that you have to act like Captain Redbeard's fucking parrot, ok?

[lookfun78]

Read the mvc 3 no joke thread and you will see that I just wanted to talk about the idea of it coming out while this talks about a game informer article and how this is already out and what it will look like I do want the first thread posted on this closed. Also each thread of the mvc 3 topics has a new headline and starts a new conversation about the next preview of this game so it doesn't fit the first mvc 3 thread since I try to start a new converstation not pertaining to that topics head line. Now do you all get it.

[kupomogli]

Then go to Gamefaqs MvC3 forum if you want to make 50 threads about each individual piece of information.

Like most communities, when you create a forum about a specific game. It's usually going to be tied to that game and everything will go in that thread. Now if it's too old of a thread or it's nearly impossible to be found, then yeah. To my knowledge the MvC3 hasn't made it past page 2.

[portnoyd]

What sense does it make to have 2 topics about the same game? All the info is in one place. Splitting it up makes absolutely no sense at all.

You just want to make more threads so you can think you're special by making more threads. You can't just have a thread closed because you said so.

Again, you're an idiot.

[JimmyDean]

Yeah, man. I mean, you don't have to make a new thread FOR EVERY NEW PIECE OF INFORMATION. I think every post you made has been about MVC3. You know what, since you have done such a good job at promoting MVC3, WHY DON'T YOU ASK CAPCOM FOR A FUCKING RAISE?!

[GrandAmChandler]

Threads merged. Lookfun78, don't make a separate thread on this game again or else I'm gonna take you for a ride....

-GAC-

[JimmyDean]

Threads merged. Lookfun78, don't make a separate thread on this game again or else I'm gonna take you for a ride...

LOL Perfect timing, GrandAmChandler!

[kupomogli]

Threads merged. Lookfun78, don't make a separate thread on this game again or else I'm gonna take you for a ride....

-GAC-

http://www.alaskapatrick.com/blog/wp-content/kid_on_car.jpg

[GrandAmChandler]

OMFG SCREENSHOTS!!11!

http://kotaku.com/5548974/marvel-vs-capcom-3-screenshots-will-kick-your-canon-in-the-face/gallery/



DO YOU SEE THE SERVBOT PEOPLE!??! DO YOU SEE IT!??!

-GAC-

[portnoyd]

Wow, Iron Man looks horrendous.

[Richter Belmount]

Looks like movie Iron man to me.

[Ze_ro]

http://astrocadeage.com/protoncannon.jpg

Looks like they're trying as much as possible to match the moves from MvC2, which is good. Even the Proton Cannon itself looks almost the same. I sure hope Iron Man looks better in motion...

--Zero

[Flashback2012]

OMFG SCREENSHOTS!!11!

http://kotaku.com/5548974/marvel-vs-capcom-3-screenshots-will-kick-your-canon-in-the-face/gallery/-GAC-


Yuck. DO NOT WANT. If that's how the game is going to look, then I will pass. I'm sure they'll get it to play similar to the first 2 games, but the graphics do nothing for me. I would have much rather they had something that looked closer to TvC. I'm sure there will be legions of fanboys who will enjoy this but I don't see myself in that crowd.

[Cryomancer]

Everything looks like it's been washed over with "dark" paint like 7 times.

[SegaAges]

http://astrocadeage.com/protoncannon.jpg

Looks like they're trying as much as possible to match the moves from MvC2, which is good. Even the Proton Cannon itself looks almost the same. I sure hope Iron Man looks better in motion...

--Zero

Ironman strangely reminds me of how they made X-Men characters in the Hyperscan X-Men game. Yeah, that is not a compliment.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n138/thebagofsand/x-men3.jpg

Hahaha, there are way too many people that will say how graphics don't matter and it is all about gameplay, and then they show these screens, and people don't want it on graphics alone. It is a Capcom vs game dudes, I have not played a bad one yet

[Famidrive-16]

Eh, it's still in reaaaally early development stages. It'll look way better than it does now, especially since it's not gonna be out for a year+.

[Jorpho]

Eh, it's still in reaaaally early development stages. It'll look way better than it does now, especially since it's not gonna be out for a year+.Clearly we must devote more resources to hyping it as much as possible, for the developers will surely step up their efforts accordingly and release a game that could not possibly fall short of grossly inflated expectations!

[BHvrd]

Danger Will Robinson! Sensory Overload:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmxNHuZoQY&videos=oPJiS6oWGow

As close to an orgasm as I have cum to watching videogame gameplay in action. The part with Dante is a big OH, HELL YEAH!

[portnoyd]

To note, new characters announced:

Trish
Amateresu
Chun Li
Thor
Super Skrull
Doctor Doom

One thing of note is Doom's rocks seem considerably shorter in duration. Maybe their days as an OP assist are over?

[Eduardo]

Marvel has changed a lot since the last game came out. Characters like Marrow are gone and new characters have gained a lot of prominence. I hope they try to include current character along with the classics. And maybe Ultimate version costumes as alt costumes.

I would like to see Daken, Sentry, Spider-Woman, Luke Cage, some of the New Avengers, same with the Runaways, maybe some of the WWH character.

[Baloo]

Terrible shading is terrible. I mean come on, TvCs graphics were great!

[walrusmonger]

Graphics are good enough for me. The gameplay looks like a solid progression from the previous VS games, so I'm sure everyone will enjoy exploiting and comboing until the cows come home.