Super Mario All-Stars is getting (another) NA release (this time on Wii) [Archive] - Page 4

YoshiM

12-26-2010, 12:19 AM

I wasn't going to jump on board with this game but since the in-laws got it for me, I took the plunge.

Has anyone sat down to compare one of the Mario games between the three versions (Wii All-Stars, SNES All-Stars and original NES)? I found with the Classic Controller I had issues with the more hairy jumps, like the single block pillars at the end of level 8-1 in SMB. I zipped past them on the SNES and got a little tricky on the NES version. Could be the controllers as they are all different (C.C.'s buttons are raised more, controller is wider and the D-Pad is designed different compared to the more compact SNES controller and the boxy NES pad). Could be emulation differences.

While the game is really a ROM on a disk like others have said, it IS very sharp visually. After playing it, I wish V.C. titles had the option to go 4:3 if the Wii is set to wide screen.

Xexyz

12-26-2010, 11:43 AM

The noticeable input lag might have something to do with your control issues. I've found myself making more mistakes and accidentally dying more often in this compilation compared to the original SNES release.

Jisho23

12-26-2010, 12:32 PM

Yeah, all those copies that were sold are already appearing on ebay resellers stores.

I'd give it a month or two, once people aren't buying and don't care the price will drop.

SpaceHarrier

12-26-2010, 11:02 PM

I played this at a friend's house (on a several-years-old HD LCD tv) and definitely found myself dying and slip-sliding around with a certain latency compared to the SNES original. I was using the standard wiimote.

In Super Mario 2, sometimes I actually had trouble going up vines. Tended to keep sliding off, even though I was just pressing up.

Gotta say, the graphics looked sharp though. Vibrant colors.

RPG_Fanatic

12-30-2010, 08:06 PM

Damn!!!! these are selling for over $70 on ebay now!!!!

MarioMania

01-01-2011, 01:27 AM

See I told you

Resellers knows Mario is a Hot Item, They bought up all the stock at Stores & selling on ebay start jacking up the price

Flashback2012

01-01-2011, 02:16 AM

See I told you

Resellers knows Mario is a Hot Item, They bought up all the stock at Stores & selling on ebay start jacking up the price

Right before Christmas, my cousin and I were in Meijer to see if they had a vintage looking record player and to spend a $50 gift card he had for the store. He had his heart set on getting DK Country Returns with it. While we were perusing the Wii section looking for the DK game, I spotted the SMB All-Stars game and mentioned he should get it. He said he'd spent enough that day already so I shrugged and left it at that.

There was one guy running the entire electronics section so we had to wait in a long arse line to get the DK game. The person just ahead of us in line was there to pick up a copy of the SMB game so we followed her and the attendant back to the case so we could get the DK game and save the guy a trip. On the way to the case, she remarked on how she had to pay $70 for the game on Amazon.

My cousin and I looked at each other and I whispered that she was insane to pay that much for it with it being in most stores still. He looked at me curiously for a second so I replied "Why would you pay $70 for a $30 game?" My cousin's eyes immediately lit up and he goes "It's only $30? I thought it was $50!" Needless to say, he wasted no time snatching a copy up for himself. ROFL

heybtbm

01-01-2011, 09:20 AM

Finally opened my copy up yesterday and played around with it for an hour or so. The preferred controller option is definitely this...

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4751/clubnintendosuperfamico.jpg

I didn't notice any lag resulting in any screwy jumps or untimely deaths. I'm just excited I finally have a game I can use this with (not really a VC person).

joshnickerson

01-01-2011, 09:52 AM

Damn!!!! these are selling for over $70 on ebay now!!!!

Are they actually selling with bids over $70, or are they just listed at $70?

megasdkirby

01-01-2011, 10:02 AM

Are they actually selling with bids over $70, or are they just listed at $70?

Actually going for close or over $70!

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/i.html?Platform=Nintendo%2520Wii&rt=nc&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=Super%20Mario%20All%20Stars&_dmpt=Video_Games_Games&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m283&_rdc=1

To think...I had three copies and I gave one for basically the same price I paid (because it arrived a bit squished in the mail). Still have two, one sealed and minty, so I am very happy. :D

Zing

01-01-2011, 02:12 PM

Damn!!!! these are selling for over $70 on ebay now!!!!

Who the fuck is buying the game at this price? It must be people outside of North America.

Frankie_Says_Relax

01-01-2011, 02:21 PM

MarioMania

01-01-2011, 03:06 PM

I'm planning to buy it in a couple months, I'm just a little worried, about the value right now

duo_r

01-01-2011, 07:05 PM

Nice I have one of those controllers too! I was hesitating opening this until I saw your post. Thanks!

Finally opened my copy up yesterday and played around with it for an hour or so. The preferred controller option is definitely this...

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4751/clubnintendosuperfamico.jpg

I didn't notice any lag resulting in any screwy jumps or untimely deaths. I'm just excited I finally have a game I can use this with (not really a VC person).

Flashback2012

01-01-2011, 08:04 PM

Has anybody complaining about timing issues tried it with a Gamecube controller (or that awesome Hori SNES style controller) plugged directly in to the system? Perhaps that'll rectify timing issues.

http://www.aeropause.com/archives/digital-1000size.png

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(sees outrageous price of Hori GC controller on eBay while looking for an example image)

O_O

Wow, glad I got mine a few years back for $7.

Game Crazy had these for that price and I leaped on it without hesitation. It's a fun little controller but the cord isn't nearly long enough. I haven't tried using a Wavebird with the game yet. As for Ebay pricing, I have NO doubt the prices are through the roof on those controllers. I regret not buying up more when I have the chance.

joshnickerson

01-01-2011, 10:46 PM

The SNES/NES converters from Retrozone might be useful for those not wanting to fork over a fortune for a Hori pad...

http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?cPath=22

imanerd0011

01-01-2011, 11:47 PM

The SNES/NES converters from Retrozone might be useful for those not wanting to fork over a fortune for a Hori pad...

http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?cPath=22

Those look pretty cool, but seem a little overpriced IMO. How long are the cords?

maxlords

01-02-2011, 08:50 AM

I think I sold my hori pad for $35 a couple years back. Didn't think it was exactly the greatest controller, especially after the Wavebirds came out :)

The 1 2 P

01-03-2011, 09:16 PM

Now I'm starting to feel alittle bad about not picking one of these up when they were in abundance at Best Buy. Of course, I haven't looked for them recently but I'm guessing that most big chain stores(Best Buy, Toys R Us, Walmart, etc) have already sold thru all of their store stock.

duo_r

01-05-2011, 06:58 AM

Nice little article on retro controllers on the Gamecube port (if anyone wants to pickup some adapters):

http://www.rfgeneration.com/news/gamecube/GameCube-Retro-Controller-Options-1568.php

I have a PS2 to Gamecube adapter and gives some more options. But after getting the SFC Classic controller I don't use it much anymore.

duo_r

01-05-2011, 07:04 AM

megasdkirby

01-05-2011, 07:39 PM

I'll buy one to see how it fairs.

Baloo

01-06-2011, 07:45 PM

The fact that this game is going for over $70 now astonishes me, is the game still even in production? Guess Nintendo wasn't fucking around when they said Limited Edition.

The 1 2 P

01-06-2011, 08:53 PM

The fact that this game is going for over $70 now astonishes me, is the game still even in production? Guess Nintendo wasn't fucking around when they said Limited Edition.

The price will eventually settle down but even I was caught off guard that it was selling that well so fast. And I still haven't even picked up a copy for myself yet. But when I do it damn sure won't be for what people are paying for it now.

Famidrive-16

01-06-2011, 09:18 PM

Anyone try something like this? This is interesting, especially if you had that Mad Catz Retrocon:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23206

http://www.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_23206_1.jpg

I have a PS2 to GC converter, the annoying thing though was that L1/L2 are mapped to one button.

duo_r

01-08-2011, 03:31 AM

U have a PS2 to GC converter, so you don't have the adapter listed above. I also have a PS2 to GC converter but I don't remember the mapping issue you mentioned. Might have to check that out again.

Bojay1997

01-08-2011, 09:42 AM

imanerd0011

01-08-2011, 09:44 AM

Looks like everyone who waited may be in luck. It's not confirmed, but Nintendo rarely makes statements like this if they aren't planning to do something.

http://www.nerdles.com/2011/01/08/nintendo-may-have-to-reprint-super-mario-all-stars-for-the-wii/

I'm still crossing my fingers and expecting it not to happen, but it would be awesome if they did. I'd buy up a couple more copies.

Frankie_Says_Relax

01-08-2011, 09:49 AM

I have a PS2 to GC converter, the annoying thing though was that L1/L2 are mapped to one button.

*edit*, wait, why wouldn't they be ... the Gamecube controller only has one shoulder button on the left.

Famidrive-16

01-08-2011, 03:15 PM

*edit*, wait, why wouldn't they be ... the Gamecube controller only has one shoulder button on the left.

Yeah, it was just annoying for a stick I was using though where L1 and L2 were next to each other.

MarioMania

01-08-2011, 03:36 PM

Well the ebay re-seller who's the blame for it selling out...

But there's people who bought the game, But if Nintendo does print more, Expect to see it the bay :/

The 1 2 P

01-08-2011, 08:16 PM

If they do a reprint then I'll probably pick one up this time.

Xexyz

01-09-2011, 01:35 PM

I should probably sell my copy before a possible reprint. The input lag is too annoying to deal with.

Zing

01-13-2011, 11:02 PM

I still don't understand why anyone who cares about money would drop $30+ on what is literally the SNES ROM with a booklet.

NayusDante

01-13-2011, 11:05 PM

I still don't understand why anyone who cares about money would drop $30+ on what is literally the SNES ROM with a booklet.

Judging by my Facebook feed, we're the only ones who realize this. We're not the target audience for this release. You know the people who ramble on about "the original Nintendo," and how they want to play "the first Mario?" Yeah, this is for them. The non-gamer who remembers Mario.

Zap!

01-14-2011, 07:14 PM

I still don't understand why anyone who cares about money would drop $30+ on what is literally the SNES ROM with a booklet.

A few reasons. I'd rather play the game on my Wii than either bust out my old SNES or play it on my laptop with its puny 17" screen. Also, it looks great in my display case. I need physical copies, as I hate digital downloads. Finally, for all of its faults, it's a ton of fun. I just beat SM2 US. Played it after work every night for a week and had a total blast, and next up will be SM3.

RPG_Fanatic

02-20-2011, 09:49 AM

Nintendo is doing a second run, Releasing 3/13/11 Better hurry and sell your double copies now!!
Gamestop
http://www.gamestop.com/wii/games/super-mario-all-stars-limited-edition/87690?loc=homeflash2

Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-All-Stars-Limited-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B0049DYNNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298240481&sr=8-1

maxlords

02-20-2011, 10:31 AM

Is it me or is that a different cover?

Leo_A

02-20-2011, 11:11 AM

It's the same artwork the slipcover for my game has. It's not the outer cardboard box.

The 1 2 P

02-20-2011, 06:53 PM

I'm going to pick atleast one up for myself this time but might pick up an extra copy just in case.

Polygon

02-20-2011, 11:24 PM

Hmmm.... I'm torn about buying it.

SegaAges

02-22-2011, 01:55 AM

Future News from Nintendo: Due to the overwhelming demand for our cash cow Mario and it selling out on both prints, we will print one more final run. Ignore what we said the previous two times about it being the last run. Believe us this time. We swear this 3rd run will be it.

Zap!

02-22-2011, 03:04 AM

InsaneDavid

03-07-2011, 11:03 PM

I got my quantities in today, about 30 pieces or so for Sunday.

Anyone think the value of this will hold for resale still? At first I wasn't thinking of grabbing a couple copies but I'll be relocating in a few months and could use some extra cash.

PapaStu

03-08-2011, 12:05 AM

InsaneDavid

03-08-2011, 01:45 AM

Does it look any different from the first release?

Nope, not at all. It looks exactly the same. I'm going to do a UPC / item code check tomorrow. They're in the sales system not to release until 3/13/11 and won't ring up until then. The UPC has probably just been re-flagged but I'm curious if the part numbers or copyright are different.

The cardboard shipping cartons were street date marked for 3/13/11 and they're fresh stickers, not like stuck over older stickers so it's not old warehouse stock or anything like that.

InsaneDavid

03-08-2011, 08:09 PM

It checks out, it's all exactly the same as the earlier release.

The 1 2 P

03-09-2011, 06:40 PM

Then I'm definitely going to buy two. I'm sure these will go pretty quickly and once again end up on ebay for atleast twice the retail price.

InsaneDavid

03-09-2011, 07:29 PM

Then I'm definitely going to buy two. I'm sure these will go pretty quickly and once again end up on ebay for atleast twice the retail price.

Yeah, I'm going to jump in for four. It honestly looks like it's going to be single shipment this time around.

heybtbm

03-09-2011, 07:57 PM

Funny how "limited" sometimes really does mean "limited".

The "Limited Edition" title may be more than just hype. It just sold out on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Super-Mario-All-Stars-Limited-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B0049DYNNO) (before it's even been released). I'm guessing if you're not on the ball and let this one slip by, it'll be a little pricey for the next few months. Definitely more than the $30 it's retailing for.

People laugh when I say I can predict the future. Anyway.

I remember when I was in college I worked at Target. My friends and I took every Starting Line-up Figure (remember those?), rare Star Wars figure, and Treasure Hunt Hot Wheels car we could find. We would take them right off the truck as it was being unloaded and buy every one (with 10% employee discount of course). Then we would sell them for HUGE profit on Usenet, eBay, etc. Eventually we graduated and got real jobs. Good times.

Leo_A

03-09-2011, 10:25 PM

Anyone can make an accurate guess once in a while, it's how often it happens that matters.

I'm still waiting on that PSP Go with expanded internal memory you predicted would be released a few months later. ;)

Zing

03-09-2011, 10:26 PM

Wait, there were in-demand Star Wars figures since Target had been in existence?

theclaw

03-10-2011, 12:36 AM

Yeah, I'm going to jump in for four. It honestly looks like it's going to be single shipment this time around.

I'd grabbed six. Heh. Wait and see how long it takes to go back up. Unless I need the money real quick.

Zing

03-10-2011, 02:15 PM

This is in stock at Best Buy Canada. $35 with free shipping.

I considered picking up a few, but at $160 (after tax) for four of them, I don't want to get stuck trying to dump them later for only a few dollars profit.

Zing

03-10-2011, 02:18 PM

Then I'm definitely going to buy two. I'm sure these will go pretty quickly and once again end up on ebay for atleast twice the retail price.

If you are so sure about this, then why not buy four, or ten? If they will double in value, why not spend every spare dollar you have buying these and reselling? 100% return on investment.

The 1 2 P

03-10-2011, 08:08 PM

I might grab more, provided I can get them at Best Buy. As a rewards member there all my purchase dollars go to certificates to use on future game(or other stuff) purchases. So that plus the money I'll make is a win-win.

tubeway

03-17-2011, 01:04 AM

I saw four copies at my local Target and picked up three of them. Brand new on Amazon they're going for as little as $38 a copy right now, which is barely enough to get back your money after seller fees.

Thankfully, I picked mine up for a couple local friends so they can save some cash, and also add one to my own library.

The 1 2 P

03-17-2011, 01:34 AM

You might have to hold on to them for a few weeks before the price goes back up. That should be enough time for this batch to sell out.

InsaneDavid

03-17-2011, 01:58 AM

This just did not move this time around. I think we only sold like two copies to date. There's plenty in the stockroom so I'm in no hurry until prices pick up.

tubeway

03-17-2011, 02:33 AM

This just did not move this time around. I think we only sold like two copies to date. There's plenty in the stockroom so I'm in no hurry until prices pick up.

Which store do you work at?

megasdkirby

03-17-2011, 11:14 AM

I'm surprised Sears did not bring in this for sale. Last time it had it in stock (release date), it sold QUITE well, in probably less than one hour. Brining in more would almost guarantee and easy sale...and quick.

PapaStu

03-17-2011, 07:31 PM

Which store do you work at?

He works at a TRU

Lady Jaye

03-18-2011, 05:21 PM

Question for whoever had bought it (and actually opened it): is the booklet worth it or not? That really would be the determining factor between getting it or not.

jaekwon15

03-18-2011, 05:37 PM

The market is officially flooded. There are over 130 copies for sale on Amazon, and the cheapest New copy is 35 dollars (plus tax and shipping.)

The 1 2 P

03-18-2011, 09:29 PM

I'm just going to sit on my extra copies. They'll go back up eventually.

Leo_A

03-18-2011, 10:11 PM

Question for whoever had bought it (and actually opened it): is the booklet worth it or not? That really would be the determining factor between getting it or not.

The booklet is poor and the music CD is so limited in scope that I doubt anyone will give more than a single look to either of them.

The meat of this product is the game itself. Only get this if you want to be able to play the game on your Wii or want to collect it. It's not worth it for the bonuses.

Lady Jaye

03-19-2011, 09:52 AM

That's too bad. :(

swlovinist

03-20-2011, 12:21 AM

Got very lucky today. I called a local Gamestop(in which I have very good business relationship with), and I was asking if there were any Mario All Star Wii games in stock. The manager was opening a restock box as I was talking to him...they got only one in. Needless to say I was very happy and felt lucky to score one. For me I plan to eventually play this one, I still feel that its worth it for the ability to play these games in crisp component on the Wii.

Rev. Link

03-20-2011, 12:48 AM

That's too bad. :(

I'm amazed that Nintendo, a company that made some of the very best games of all time, can be so bad at doing special or collector's editions. Their bonuses are always so lackluster. Even the game itself is a bit disappointing. A straight port of the SNES game? They couldn't have added in a few of the more recent 2D Mario games? Oh, wait, of course not, because they had to use games that could be played with only two buttons using a Wii remote.

Oh how I wish all Wiis came bundled with a classic controller. If next year Nintendo celebrates the Zelda anniversary by redoing the same cheap collection we saw on GameCube, I'm going to be upset.

Leo_A

03-20-2011, 01:51 AM

They're selling those on the Virtual Console which was why they weren't there. But let's not start that one up again. :)

They could always toss in a nunchuck/wiimote control combination for something like Super Mario World (I believe NSMBWii can use both, for an example of how they could've met the button requirement with stock controllers). So I don't think that was the roadblock to including it on the disc.

I'm hoping we'll get some real treats with the Zelda collection, assuming that's the route they're going to go to celebrate the anniversary. Reworkings of the Satilliteview games would be an excellent way to celebrate the series and give us something new and worthwhile.

And perhaps the real Ura Zelda (The N64 DD expansion for Ocarina of Time). It seems to be a common feeling that what we got on the GameCube was just a portion of the project, or even just a recent hack at the time to give us a second quest that was then portrayed to us as that lost project.

In interviews and such in the 90's, Ura Zelda was supposed to include such things as the following list of elements. Yet, it was little more than edits to the dungeons that some 3rd party modder could've achieved. Heck, it didn't even need the 4MB expansion pack to run and was the same size as the standard Ocarina of Time, as people have discovered that have extracted the Master Quest rom.

-Persistent world
-Additional areas
-Additional dungeons
-Changed locations for existing dungeons
-New enemies

Would be neat to get the real deal someday (Was supposedly all but finished according to outlets like IGN at the time of cancellation), assuming what we got on the GameCube wasn't the real deal.

Maybe those lost elements are the new additions they've hinted at for Ocarina of Time 3D.

Leo_A

10-15-2015, 08:08 PM

Through data mining of the Wii U's eShop, an entry for this title has been located which suggests an upcoming release.

If it happens, it will be interesting to see what form its 2nd rerelease takes. Will it be an $8 Virtual Console download like many thought it should've originally been five years ago? Or will Nintendo have the nerve to sell it as a $20 Wii download, thanks to this earlier retail rerelease?

The old economics problem remains. Do they risk some of their profit by selling an enhanced compilation of four classics for $8, that cost $20 in their original form as downloads? Or will the Wii retail angle be utilized to allow for an equivalent $20 download price?

Tanooki

10-15-2015, 08:52 PM

Good question. If I were betting, even though I never do, I'd put it at $20. Nintendo thanks to the WiiU is hurting financially and also in game quantity too. A release like this being a Mario history package of the 2D early era would be easy money. They'd rationalize the fact you could buy them individually for $5/ea as NES titles so it's a fair deal with the upgrades. I mean there was no reason since they own it, but they went for $10 vs $8 on Earthbound and I think that NES proto they finally release was higher too. They'll milk it.