Controversial game statements you stand by

[The 1 2 P]

The Playstation Move is nothing but a blatant ripoff of the Wii and PS3 trophies are nothing but third rate 360 achievements.

[Graham Mitchell]

@ tubeway: ouch! Most of it I agree with, though.

Here's one: microcosm for the Amiga CD32 is the best fmv-based game ever designed. It's gorgeous, sounds amazing, and while not the best shmup ever, is a legitimate, challenging shooter that's probably harder than ikaruga to beat without cheating.

[Tupin]

Windwaker is the best Zelda game.

Twilight Princess created a great physical world but destroyed it with the complete lack of emotion and a horrid and predictable story.

Most American developers have no idea how to program for the Wii.

[pseudonym]

Speaking of YouTube, I have a grievance myself. The vast majority of people who do LPs (Let's Play) on YouTube are boring or play a game that 20 other people have played already (Legend of Zelda, Mario anything). If you're going to do one, play a game that no one or few people have played, or at least play it differently (speed, blind, sequence breaking runs). No one cares about your complaining or doing a play-by-play of the action, you should be funny, interesting, or informative when you play.

[Auto-Fox]

The Nintendo Gamecube was as legitimately a good console as anything else out at the time, and is definitely a more interesting machine than the Wii.

[Damaramu]

Here's a few:



Tengen Tetris is overrated. Nintendo's official version is far better.
Battlefield Bad Company 2 has a better overall multiplayer experience than the recent COD games.

[Icarus Moonsight]

You want controversial?... [continues on with a mammoth bucketful of win]

I'm surprised you didn't start with, "This is tubeway speaking." LOL

[tubeway]

I'm surprised you didn't start with, "This is tubeway speaking." LOL

Haha, thanks. ;)

[WCP]

The Sega 32X barely beats out the Atari Jaguar as one of the worst mainstream (relatively) systems to ever be released.

Knuckles Chaotix is a horrible game, yet people try to pretend it's good.


The Jaguar also sucks bigtime, only having a couple of games worth playing, but it's still light years ahead of the 32X, further demonstrating how lame the 32X is.

Panasonic 3DO is one of the most underrated gaming systems. People don't give the 3DO much respect, because few people played it in very late 1993 or early 1994. People that played it when it first came out, and played games like Crash N Burn and Total Eclipse know that the 3DO was absolutely mindblowing when it first hit the scene. Sure, once the Saturn and PS1 arrived, the 3DO was take out back and shot and left for dead, but I just think people don't give the system any credit when in 1994 it had games like Road Rash and Escape from Monster Manor and Slayer and Out of this World and a bunch of other games.


The Super Nintendo, pound for pound, pretty much steamrolls over EVERYTHING.

[emceelokey]

Haha, thanks. ;)

Yup, I pretty much agree with everything you said.

What struck my nerve the most was the cleaning the games statement. I used to go to retrowaretv.com because they're have some interesting videos usually about some obscure game or what have you but then there was on video where they were giving their tips on cleaning a game. It was an NES game and every time I get a new one, I'll get a q-tip and wipe the pins, or whatever it is on the cart that actually holds the data, with some water and dry it just to get whatever gunk off of it. I do that with every new cart I get when I first get it just to take any foreign dirt off of it and I'll at least know it's clean when I tiuck it away. My problem wasn't the fact that they were cleaning a cart but they just went overboard with it.

They opened up the cart and cleaned the card with alcohol. But to open the game they had to have a special tool to be able to uncrew the screws on the back of the cart. Then they would also have to buy a bottle of alcohol. Such pointless, useless shit and I didn't want to become like that so I just started selling off some of my collection. Mostly carts because you can emulate all that stuff and I probably didn't play most of my carts in years anyway.

I don't know why but there was something about that video where I was just like, this is not cool and just started looking at games for their entertainment value than any collectible or sentimental value. Maybe that's some other peoples cup of tea but was not mine.

[Graham Mitchell]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

[alec006]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

Is that where you bid at the absolute last second and win by maybe a cent, yea that sucks,it's exactly why I don't ever do auctions,I just buy it now and spend my money wisely.

Ask for something I stand by,games are met to be played with someone else, in the room on the same TV.

I mean,I don't mind online gaming,but it's gotten way out of hand. Who wants to pay for something that was free in the first place, not to mention with people you don't know! Also get yelled at just because some spoiled brat just got shot and is throwing a fit and saying you can't do that, that's how you play the game dumb ass!

I say just invite your friends over when ever they have the time, hook it up to a big TV or projector and play games in person with the people you know and love, it's more fun that way, always has been and always will be.

BTW,yay post 900 :P

[allyourblood]

Then they would also have to buy a bottle of alcohol.

Forgetting everything else that you said, I find it bizarre that you got hung up on the purchase of a bottle of rubbing alcohol. I don't believe I have ever, in my life, known a person who doesn't have a bottle of rubbing alcohol somewhere in their house.

Did you ever watch a video online of someone and think "they would also have to buy that pair of pants they're wearing"? LOL

[Kyle15]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

What if you bid what you're willing to pay in the last 5 seconds? :D

[allyourblood]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

What's the difference, if you don't mind my asking? For example, if your max bid is $15.00, and I bid $15.01, what's it to you if I do so two days before the auction closes, or two seconds? It doesn't change what either of us were willing to pay, does it?

I know this is the controversial thread and all, but really, I'd love a little enlightenment as to how this at all relates to theft, or any sort of "unethical" behavior, for that matter.

[buzz_n64]

I think it shows cheapness on the original bidders behalf. If they were really willing to pay more for it, then they would increase their max bid more. Sure, I've had it done to me multiple times, in return I do it back. It's a strategy, not something unethical like insider trading.

[allyourblood]

Sure, I've had it done to me multiple times, in return I do it back. It's a strategy, not something unethical like insider trading.

Exactly. Also, that's what she said.

[ryborg]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

This might be one of the best trolls I've ever seen. My only regret is that I didn't think of it first. A+

[allyourblood]

This might be one of the best trolls I've ever seen. My only regret is that I didn't think of it first. A+

I thought this entire thread was trolling. You missed the point entirely and--

Oh. I see what you did there.

[gum_drops]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

Pure genius. *clap* *clap*

[Sabz5150]

- Anyone with two or more big titted anime girl statues and wall scrolls in their home probably doesn't have a girlfriend.

What about small tittied girls? And its only one in my server closet.



- Every hour you spend playing games is an hour you could have spent doing something creative or productive. Game in moderation and try to make sure that the rest of the foundation for a quality life is in place. Gaming is just the sprinkles on top.

Anyone who honestly has an issue with me gaming for several hours after spending ten and a half hours at work then coming home to cook dinner for my family, wash clothes and clean house can kindly join the Shenmue and EA people in a white hit pyre of kiss my f*cking ass. (not directed at you, Tube... just a general comment :) )


EDIT: you... tube... I see what I accidentally'd :D

[Sabz5150]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t16/TomtheFanboy/Pictures%20from%20other%20Cameras/orsonclapping.gif

[The 1 2 P]

Ebay sniping, while technically legal, is horrendously unethical, and is essentially one step from stealing. If you can't afford the item, go to school and get a decent job. Just bid what you're willing to pay and see what happens.

If you can't beat them--join them....or complain about them in this thread:)

Actually, "sniping" is perhaps the smartest tool available to ebay bidders. Why waste money in a bidding war with a newb when you can come in at the last second and get the job done for half the work and effort. Also, when you look at the bidders list at the end of the auction, seeing your name only listed once(the amount of times you bid) and the fact that you won makes you look clever. But seeing your name listed 15 times and still not winning makes you look.....um, not clever:D

[Aussie2B]

The "Angry Video Game Nerd" is annoying, unfunny, and whatever popularity he enjoys is a detriment to the retro video game community. People form ardent opinions on games or game-related topics of which they have no first-hand knowledge based simply on his blather.
:D

I agree with that. I find him completely groan-worthy and have no understanding of why he has so many fervent followers. I will take it a step further, though, and say that video reviews and other such Youtube game commentaries are almost all thoroughly horrible and are a detriment to video game journalism and those who are actually talented writers. Why put in the effort to read something when you can let your mind turn to mush and listen to some mouth-breather struggle to communicate even the most insipid of comments. As a woman, most of these guys give me the creeps. They're the kinds of guys I stay far, far away from at gaming conventions. Bunch of BO-reeking, basement-dwelling weirdos and probably the closest they gotten to a "woman" is their bikini anime loli full-body pillow that they spoon each night.

More comments:

- Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy Mystic Quest are better than any of the numbered FF games, and none of the numbered FF games are any better than mediocre, of what I've played at least.

- Castlevania hasn't been worth giving a damn about since Circle of the Moon, and this is from a huge Castlevania fan.

- As has been said, the N64 is not only an awesome system but the controller is also extremely ergonomic. They people who complain about it are either too stupid to figure it out ("dur! i don't have three hands, lol!") or they're probably the people out there that don't think the Dreamcast controller is hand-crippling, which means they're CRAZY.

- The Virtual Boy is a good system too. So is the PC-FX. While their libraries are limited, they do have some great games. People who say that the Virtual Boy has no good games or tell people that it makes EVERYONE's eyes "bleed" don't know what they're talking about and have probably never played a Virtual Boy.

- The Dual Shock is a crappy controller. Just open one up and see what a shoddy job it is. The Dual Shock 2 is even worse. Mysterious "grease" leaks out of many for no apparent reason, and I even found one, bought new by myself, full of hairs. The only reason Sony continued to use the design for the PS3, besides laziness, is not because the players love it so much but because the first design was so bloody awful that the consumers would take anything different. The best PlayStation controller is still the original non-Dual Shock.

- Most PS2 RPGs and other RPGs for later home consoles are over-bloated with BS and lost the concept of what makes an RPG fun. This started in the PS1 era, but the games still hold onto some level of simplicity.

- Phantasy Star 2 is ass.

- A lot of the best games ever made you have never heard of.

- The most fervent anti-furry haters are probably closeted furries themselves. I bring this up on a gaming forum because these gamers will happily play Star Fox and Sonic and other games with "furry" characters, because they grew up with those, yet they'll dismiss awesome games like Tail Concerto and Solatorobo because of "lol furries". They're probably still trying to convince themselves that they didn't find Krystal hot.

- Dating sims can be a lot of fun, even ones with hentai. People who say otherwise probably secretly loved the dating elements in the Harvest Moon and Persona games.

- The SuperScope is cool. Play Battle Clash and Metal Combat and tell me otherwise.

- Donkey Kong Country 3 is a great game. It may have crappy music, but it plays every bit as good as the other two games.

- F-Zero GX is a horrible follow-up to F-Zero X. Nintendo needs to stop handing their classic franchises (Zelda, Star Fox, Metroid, etc.) to other developers. Granted, Nintendo isn't as good of a developer as they used to be.

- Super Princess Peach is an insult to women, despite that it was aimed at women. Her abilities are her emotions? Uh huh. Game developers STILL don't know what they hell to do with the female consumer base. They still think that all we like are puzzle games, RPGs, DDR, The Sims, and cute/pink things. Most male gamers think the same. Look up any topic on here asking for recommendations for someone's girlfriend/wife/sister/whatever. I should make a topic here called "Recommend games for my boyfriend" and see how long it takes before someone says "Well, what genres of games do you think he'd like?" You'll pretty much never see that in a female-centered topic because we all share a like mind, right? Right?

- The New Super Mario Bros. games are NOTHING like the classics, despite how hard they try to be derivative rip-offs. The controls are all off.

- Cho Aniki games aren't "gay" games. There's nothing about them that would be appealing to gay gamers. They're just supposed to be funny. Unless you think Hard Gay is actually trying to attract a gay audience.

- The King's Field series is awesome. People just stupidly expect them to be like Final Fantasy VII or something when that's not what they were remotely aiming to be like.

[Sabz5150]

I agree with that. I find him completely groan-worthy and have no understanding of why he has so many fervent followers. I will take it a step further, though, and say that video reviews and other such Youtube game commentaries are almost all thoroughly horrible and are a detriment to video game journalism and those who are actually talented writers. Why put in the effort to read something when you can let your mind turn to mush and listen to some mouth-breather struggle to communicate even the most insipid of comments. As a woman, most of these guys give me the creeps. They're the kinds of guys I stay far, far away from at gaming conventions. Bunch of BO-reeking, basement-dwelling weirdos and probably the closest they gotten to a "woman" is their bikini anime loli full-body pillow that they spoon each night.

I like AVGN because he does touch on a lot of things that only people who have played the games, and played them A LOT, would understand or find humorous.

Example: "Beeeeeeeeeeee seventeen bawwwwwwwwwwwwwmer!" I said that literally seconds before he did, the instant he popped in that gold labeled cart. Its the little things like that which those of us who have had a controller in our hands since before we could spell the word would laugh about.


- Super Princess Peach is an insult to women, despite that it was aimed at women. Her abilities are her emotions? Uh huh. Game developers STILL don't know what they hell to do with the female consumer base. They still think that all we like are puzzle games, RPGs, DDR, The Sims, and cute/pink things. Most male gamers think the same. Look up any topic on here asking for recommendations for someone's girlfriend/wife/sister/whatever. I should make a topic here called "Recommend games for my boyfriend" and see how long it takes before someone says "Well, what genres of games do you think he'd like?" You'll pretty much never see that in a female-centered topic because we all share a like mind, right? Right?


My wife is applauding. Loudly.

EDIT: Do you know what you need to do in order to reel in female gamers? Absolutely nothing. Why can't women play the same games as men? Remember all the Atari, Coleco and Intellivision advertisements? Remember how a lot of them included girls as the players? WTF happened?

[Sabz5150]

If you can't beat them--join them....or complain about them in this thread:)

Actually, "sniping" is perhaps the smartest tool available to ebay bidders. Why waste money in a bidding war with a newb when you can come in at the last second and get the job done for half the work and effort. Also, when you look at the bidders list at the end of the auction, seeing your name only listed once(the amount of times you bid) and the fact that you won makes you look clever. But seeing your name listed 15 times and still not winning makes you look.....um, not clever:D

And spawn camping is a legitimate tactic...

[The 1 2 P]

Remember all the Atari, Coleco and Intellivision advertisements? Remember how a lot of them included girls as the players? WTF happened?

Back them games were thought to be nothing more than kids toys(even more so than now). So having girls in those advertisements and commercials was ok because those girls were part of the "kids demographic" they were hoping to sell to.

[The 1 2 P]

And spawn camping is a legitimate tactic...

Are you still talking ebay or are you talking multiplayer?

[RPG_Fanatic]

EVERY 3-D Zelda game sucks ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Enigmus]

Yoshi's Island sucks.

Metal Gear Solid sucks.

The PS2 sucks.

Metroid Prime one through three sort of suck.

I hate the Intellivision.

Donkey Kong Country 3 was not so good.

Duck Hunt sucks.

Pokemon Snap was mediocre.

[allyourblood]

Pokemon Snap was mediocre.

I thought this one was downright kind of you.

[Aussie2B]

Yeah, I wouldn't say those DKC3 and Pokemon Snap comments are very controversial seeing as lots of people feel that way about them, if not even more negative.

Anyway, I got more!

- The first Dragon Warrior is more entertaining than the first Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy feels as if it was aiming for a more story-focused game, but the story was so thin and generic that it can't carry the game. Dragon Warrior doesn't bother with that. It's just no-nonsense exploration.

- No Metroid past Gunpei Yokoi's death is a "real" Metroid. Also, Sakamoto can take a dump in his pants.

- Miyamoto doesn't deserve all the attention he continues to get these days. He hasn't really done squat since Pikmin.

- Reggie is a tool and looks like Lurch. He's done nothing but bad things for Nintendo.

- Eiji Aonuma gets a lot of flack for his oddball additions to the Zelda series, but the real problem is that this established series isn't well-serving his immense creativity. It also doesn't help that his best addition to the series, Majora's Mask, one in which he truly created something special and innovative, gets a lot of whining by crybabies that can't figure out the time system. But his best game is still Marvelous (see my earlier comment about the best games ever made being ones you've never heard of).

- Most Western RPGs aren't real RPGs. They're just hack 'n' slash nonsense. Also, MMORPGs in general can eat a big one.

- People who hate Mega Man Legends just because it's not like the classic Mega Man games and people who think Mega Man Legends is the only good Mega Man game are both thoroughly irritating.

- Tetris, while it earns my respect, isn't that fun and isn't addictive.

- When looking at worldwide releases and not just US ones, the PC Engine is better than the Genesis. This still stands if you include the add-ons.

- The PSP's ghosting is terrible, and I don't know why almost no one realizes this.

- The shmup genre is dead. The "bullet hell" style is crap, and now the genre just exists for loli fetishists.

- Wonder Project J2 is the best Japan-exclusive on N64. Yes, better than Sin & Punishment.

- For the most part, SNK games have been garbage since the bankruptcy.

- RPG players overestimate the importance of themselves and the games to the video game industry, unless we're talking Japan. Just because RPG players are vocal on the internet doesn't mean that they're a significant portion of the US gaming populace. Furthermore, people that think the PS1 was a success in the US because of Final Fantasy VII are morons. Diehard RPG players, the ones that ONLY play RPGs, are not only stupidly closed-minded but also have no discerning tastes. Usually they follow the idea that "If it's an RPG, it's good!" no matter how much the gameplay, plot, characters, etc. are complete drivel.

[pseudonym]

I thought this one was downright kind of you.

Just what I was thinking. :-D It would be nice if they expanded on this idea with a new game. Get rid of the on-rails method that Pokemon Snap took and make it a wide open area where you can walk around and take pictures instead. Nintendo/Game Freaks/etc know they have a winning formula with the Pokemon games though, and they won't deviate from it.

[emceelokey]

Forgetting everything else that you said, I find it bizarre that you got hung up on the purchase of a bottle of rubbing alcohol. I don't believe I have ever, in my life, known a person who doesn't have a bottle of rubbing alcohol somewhere in their house.

Did you ever watch a video online of someone and think "they would also have to buy that pair of pants they're wearing"? LOL


If you end up watching the video, it's not the alcohol or any one thing but it's one of those things where that was the turning point for me. Like if you like to drink a lot and drink every evening and don't think you have a problem but you see a guy that's one step further down the problem and you see that's where you headed and don't like it. It was just this sense of overkill that obsessives do.

I was slowly turning into one of those guys that makes youtube videos of their collection and I just don't want to be that.

[emceelokey]

- The combo meter is both the best and worst thing to happen in fighting games.

- Most female employees in Gamestop don't know shit about games. That's right, I said it. 1:5 ratio I say.

- Nintendo will support a new accessory for about 6 months before completely forgetting about it (N64 microphone, N64 transfer pack, SNES paint pad, Super Scope 6, the past 3 variations of the DS, N64 expansion pak, ROB the Robot, NES Light gun, Gameboy Camera, Wii mic that came with Animal Crossing, DS headset,GBA to Cube system link... If you can think it it was supported for 6 months... Wii balance board...)

- Nintendo developed games aren't "hardcore" games. Those are made for the widest audience possible yet are only bought by people that still care about old franchises. You want to be a "hardcore" gamer then play one of those "Petz" games or whatever crap game that no one wants to play.

- ICO is over rated!

- Tekken is garbage.

- The first Killer Instinct is one of the best fighting games ever made

- Some company needs to do a good fire fighting game for either the Wii or Playstation Move. Fire Fighter F.D. 18 was great on PS2 with just a regular controller, think of how good a fire fighting game can be with the Move.

- The Wii is the first system I sold during it's prime and I have no regrets.

- Olivia Munn doesn't like you.

[allyourblood]

... Like if you like to drink a lot and drink every evening and don't think you have a problem but you see a guy that's one step further down the problem and you see that's where you headed and don't like it. It was just this sense of overkill that obsessives do.

I was slowly turning into one of those guys that makes youtube videos of their collection and I just don't want to be that.

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.

[Auto-Fox]

- As has been said, the N64 is not only an awesome system but the controller is also extremely ergonomic. They people who complain about it are either too stupid to figure it out ("dur! i don't have three hands, lol!") or they're probably the people out there that don't think the Dreamcast controller is hand-crippling, which means they're CRAZY.

- The most fervent anti-furry haters are probably closeted furries themselves. I bring this up on a gaming forum because these gamers will happily play Star Fox and Sonic and other games with "furry" characters, because they grew up with those, yet they'll dismiss awesome games like Tail Concerto and Solatorobo because of "lol furries". They're probably still trying to convince themselves that they didn't find Krystal hot.

These two. 1000 times these two.

I will disagree, though, and say that the Dreamcast controller isn't a bad design. Unless you have tiny hands, it's a fairly comfortable thing to hold, and the buttons are fairly well positioned compared to its predecessor, the Sega Saturn 3D Control Pad.
The N64 controller IS awkward at first, but you just have to get used to it I've found. I'm still not sure why they put that handle in the center, though.

As for "furry" games, I agree, why this enormous backlash against them? I mean, even if they don't have a history like Sonic or Star Fox, they can be good. Take Sly Cooper for example.
As a furry, I will say we've kinda ruined it for everyone, though. Blame the artists.

[Kiddo]

- The Virtual Boy is a good system too. So is the PC-FX.


Speaking of the PC-FX, Battle Heat and Tengai Makyo: Katakuri Kakutoden are both not only simple to learn, but easy to play as well!

I even have proof! Proof I made myself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7M1bRCBsJ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4yJcas6eWM

It doesn't get much more controversial than when it's recorded on film, folks!

Also, a tangent; Radical Dreamers is a highly overrated Satellaview game. It is but one of a few Satellaview games done in a visual novel style - among those, BS Tantei Club and BS Shin Onigashima didn't get any fan translation love, and R No Shosai has not even been ROM dumped! Where's the love for these? People only cling to Dreamers because of the Chrono fandom, and probably aren't even people who play Visual/Sound Novels otherwise. Heck, Squaresoft's three other Satellaview originals are better than Radical Dreamers, as well! I suggest you folks play DynamiTracer, Treasure Conflix, and Koi Ha Balance, because you'll never see Squaresoft make interesting experimental games like those ever again. Now, can you -please- cut the prices on those RD 8M Packs?



Marvelous


Oh, the BS Marvelous games are another set that need some love! Someone seriously needs to do hacking projects with those featuring the care and effort that the BS Zelda ROM hacks had... no, better. Map 1 still has Real Hardware issues.

Someone must donate to me 100 billion dollars to find every Satellaview game. Right now.

[Emuaust]

- All RTS's are boring and dull

- The N64 is the worst system ive owned due to its blurry headache inducing visuals

- Halo is the "apple/yuppie" symbol of the gaming world and is of no substance

- Tekken stopped being interesting after Tekken Tag

- shumps are boring and repetitive

- Motion controls are pointless

- Tetris is only good on the DS and preferably in Multiplayer

- Nitendo havent made an original in house title in many years

- the PS2 is the greatest system ever

- The Master System is the 8bit console of choice

- Ebay is evil

[substantial_snake]

- Ninetendo first party titles bore me since N64 (Mario, Zelda, Metroid especially)

- Advance Wars Days of Ruin is the best of the series hands down

- Tokyo Xtream Racer series is great

- Ps1/Ps2 Armored Core are great

- FPS games are more fun with a controller even thought mouse/key are more precise

- Final Fantasy 6, 7, 8 rotate as my favorites

- Xenogears was the greatest traditional RPG (GEARS not saga)

- PSP has a superior lineup to the DS

- Secret of Mana was crap

[Toasty]

- World of Warcraft has ruined everything MMO games ever stood for before it's time.

- Halo, Gears of War, Bioshock and all the rest of them modern first person shooter games have nothing on the classics.

- X-Box and GameCube's controller designs are amongst the most confusing and dumbest designs ever.

- Sony's library of games actually provide much more of a variety than Nintendo's ever will.

- Sonic's days were numbered after Sonic the Hedgehog 3.

- Microsoft is only in the gaming industry for more money.

- Handheld systems destroy console/arcade games ported to them because the developers have to water so much down to fit the crappy standards of a handheld.

- Final Fantasy VII has been revisited and referenced way too much and is incredibly overrated.

- Wii is just a gimmicky system, without the motion sensor controllers, it'd be nothing.

- A lot of the online gaming communities for each console are filled to the brim of immature players.

- Mortal Kombat died after the second game's arcade release. And was only popular because of just fatalities alone.

- Sports games are so boring and you wonder why you'll find them later on for a whopping price of $0.99 at a GameStop store.

- Pokemon died after Generation II.

- Variety in a gaming system's library and how fun they are, are more important than games based solely on mascots and their adventures.

- A true gamer realizes gameplay is more important than graphics.

- Gamers should not be mixed with the social pool that are, geeks.

- Flash games based on console games suck, every single one of them.

- Nintendo wonders why some of their franchises would rather be on the PS1 than the N64.

[betamax001]

The Sega Genesis is just meh compared to the SNES.

Sonic games were never good. Ever. Mario > Sonic.

Smash bros games are also crap.

The N64 controller is OK, but playing SM64 with a 360 controller is overall better.

Anyone who complains about the blurry visuals of N64 should play an emulator (Project 64 is the one I use) at the highest resolution possible. Looks alot better.

Also SM64DS isn't as bad as everyone says.

[Icarus Moonsight]

- Sony's library of games actually provide much more of a variety than Nintendo's ever will. [Good thing you didn't mention quality! *phew*]

- (insert game company here) is only in the gaming industry for money.

- Wii is just a gimmicky system, without the motion sensor controllers, it'd be a Gamecube.

- Pokemon sucks ass.

Proof'd

[TonyTheTiger]

Icarus Moonsight's avatar is beautifully hypnotic and mildly arousing.

[SpaceHarrier]

TonyTheTiger's avatar is beautifully hypnotic and mildly arousing.

[Wraith Storm]

Okay... Here we go!!!

- Bullet Witch is hands down one of the greatest games ever made.

- Mortal Kombat on the Sega CD is awesome. It's better than either the Genesis or Snes version and the load times really aren't as bad as people say.

- FMV games are awesome and we need more of them.

- The Super Scope and Menacer were both very cool.

- Zelda II was and still is the best Zelda game ever made.

[Enigmus]

Here's a few more-

-Metroid (NES) really isn't all that fun. Considering it is both long for a '86-'87 NES game and didn't use battery backed saving, it makes the NES version more difficult, and makes the translated FDS version (with save slots) much better (alongside the improved music using the rudimentary FM chip.)

-The reason Doom and Doom II are still great games are because of both a balanced amount of open and enclosed spaces and the usage of speed as a defense instead of modern FPS' "hide behind wall or duck behind crate" defense, not to mention Doom was slightly inspired by early strafe-like games like Robotron 2084.

-The PlayStation 2 really wasn't all that great. There were many good games, but as time passed it showed aging signs in terms of processing and visuals, especially when compared to the Xbox, which still looks excellent on an HDTV. Even the Gamecube still holds up better today, IMO.

-No matter the praise, I'll never acknowledge the Rabbids franchise as good. I've found the games to be rather awful compared to the Rayman series, with the only decent one being Rabbids Go Home.

[Kyle15]

-No matter the praise, I'll never acknowledge the Rabbids franchise as good. I've found the games to be rather awful compared to the Rayman series, with the only decent one being Rabbids Go Home.

Amen to that. I want Rayman back! Every single Rabbids release feels like money-mongering shovelware.

Personally I find:

-The terms "black label" and anything "label" to be extremely annoying and clunky. Ebay users started this mess back when Final Fantasy VII became the "thing" and it only got worse. You go anywhere and people talk about "labels" and all that mess, even when there was only ever one edition of whatever it is they're talking about.

-"Rare" being attached to any game that someone can't find in front of them at every mainstream retail store. Also, just about anything from five years ago and earlier. Learn what rare means!

-MMOs, especially those cookie-cutter "pay for content" MMOs, are devoid of actual substance. The only goal is to KILL monsters and pay REAL money to kill MORE monsters.

-Like I said before, Super Mario Galaxy is one of the most overrated games in the past ten years. Almost even more so than Final Fantasy VII.

-Speaking of Final Fantasy VII, I love the music, battle system, and just about everything else. There's a catch: disc two is a horrible bore. The middle feels like tacked-on filler.

-People who scream about 10-20 hour games as "too short" get on my nerves. You know what? I'd much rather play a game in 15 hours and experience everything it wants me to instead of a 40 hour game with only 15 "real" hours of an experience. I don't care if general RPG players or whoever want "more" in order to feel like their purchase was "really worth it." Just give me my game, and if it takes 6 hours to play, so be it! If it was really good, I'll play it again!

I'm sure there are more things that bother me but fail to come to mind.

[pseudonym]

-Speaking of Final Fantasy VII, I love the music, battle system, and just about everything else. There's a catch: disc two is a horrible bore. The middle feels like tacked-on filler.


Isn't disc 2 like 75% of the game once you are out of Midgar and before you enter the crater at the end of the game? I haven't played FF7 in a few years...

[Polygon]

One I've been taking a lot of flack for lately.......

Castlevania: LoS sucks. It's repetitive, boring, uninspired, and a rip off of a rip off of that original rip off.

[allyourblood]

The PlayStation 2 really wasn't all that great. There were many good games, but as time passed it showed aging signs in terms of processing and visuals, especially when compared to the Xbox, which still looks excellent on an HDTV. Even the Gamecube still holds up better today, IMO.

Agreed. For some reason, the PS2 has never struck a chord with me. Personally, I find the original Playstation's library to be of higher quality and with more classics (albeit with graphics that haven't stood the test of time so well). When I look back at the PS2, I view its library in the exact same light as the Wii's today: several good games, a few great games, but even in its heyday, the majority of titles are just retreads, sequels and middling also-rans.

[Aussie2B]

One I've been taking a lot of flack for lately.......

Castlevania: LoD sucks. It's repetitive, boring, uninspired, and a rip off of a rip off of that original rip off.

What game is Legacy of Darkness a rip-off of? o_O I've never heard anyone call it a rip-off before. Did you mean to type LoI or LoS? I've heard Lament of Innocence called a Devil May Cry rip-off, and I've heard Lords of Shadow called a God of War rip-off.

While it's not so controversial, the whole "blah of blah" subtitle scheme for Castlevania has gone way too far. You know it's bad when they start reusing words, like with Legacy of Darkness and Curse of Darkness.

[Polygon]

What game is Legacy of Darkness a rip-off of? o_O I've never heard anyone call it a rip-off before. Did you mean to type LoI or LoS? I've heard Lament of Innocence called a Devil May Cry rip-off, and I've heard Lords of Shadow called a God of War rip-off.

While it's not so controversial, the whole "blah of blah" subtitle scheme for Castlevania has gone way too far. You know it's bad when they start reusing words, like with Legacy of Darkness and Curse of Darkness.

^^;

Crap. You're completely right. That was supposed to LoS not D. I'm talking about Lords of Shadow. Legacy of Darkness was crap, but it certainly was not a rip off.

[Kyle15]

Isn't disc 2 like 75% of the game once you are out of Midgar and before you enter the crater at the end of the game? I haven't played FF7 in a few years...

Its mainly large bits of it that I don't like. The story takes a big pounding when Cloud leaves the party. Come to think of it, I can't remember the parts I disliked at all. All I remember is disc 1, bits of disc 2, and disc 3. Part of the game seriously needs a fixing in the pacing department.

Those mini-games come to mind too. :(