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ReaXan
08-28-2012, 12:52 AM
Reading through this whole thread, I think it's crazy to see how many people are listing systems like N64 and PSX. Really? I am decidedly not a fan of N64, and it's easily my least favorite "major" post-crash console (major meaning excluding stuff like Jaguar). But even so, it still has its share of greats. And PSX is one of the best systems of all time.

I don't really get why people say early 3D games were ugly. I'm not saying they're not, but, early 2D games were just as ugly.

I thought the same things when I went from a SNES to PSOne playing Resident Evil 2 for the first time or FF7. It was mindblowing to how much better it was than the 16 bit era in terms of gameplay experience. However,then you saw the rest of the PSOne's library where they relied fully on blocky,grainy early 3D instead of a mixture of both like in the Resident Evil games. SOTN is an all time great because 2D on the PSOne looks gorgeous and is still very playable.

Games like Vigilante 8 are dead to me now, even Tony Hawk which was a fun game to play when you are bored back in the day isn't worth it. I can go back to the 8 bit, 16 bit era with ease, but the 32 bit one is purely a toss-up unless its on a small screen like the PSP. Goldeneye for N64 was an epic game, but the 3d looks so blurry on it today that people had to create HD packs for it. Its funny how a game like Pacman didn't age badly but 007 did. Like someone said earlier, The Sega Dreamcast is the first system that did 3D properly. It just didn't have enough games.

Basically I think everyone who grew up on the NES first mostly believe that the 32-bit era didn't age well. However its not like we didn't enjoy the era when it was going on. It was fresh, but then went stale.

Rickstilwell1
08-28-2012, 01:09 AM
OK I have a new one. Now that I have my Wii softmodded and have a Virtual Boy emulator on it that finally runs at an accurate speed with sound, It is no longer a must for me to play on an actual Virtual Boy system again. I did not dislike the real Virtual Boy or anything, and the 3D did make the images look better than they do in 2D on a TV screen, but for ease of use it's just more practical to emulate it.

j_factor
08-28-2012, 02:21 AM
I thought the same things when I went from a SNES to PSOne playing Resident Evil 2 for the first time or FF7. It was mindblowing to how much better it was than the 16 bit era in terms of gameplay experience. However,then you saw the rest of the PSOne's library where they relied fully on blocky,grainy early 3D instead of a mixture of both like in the Resident Evil games. SOTN is an all time great because 2D on the PSOne looks gorgeous and is still very playable.

Games like Vigilante 8 are dead to me now, even Tony Hawk which was a fun game to play when you are bored back in the day isn't worth it. I can go back to the 8 bit, 16 bit era with ease, but the 32 bit one is purely a toss-up unless its on a small screen like the PSP. Goldeneye for N64 was an epic game, but the 3d looks so blurry on it today that people had to create HD packs for it. Its funny how a game like Pacman didn't age badly but 007 did. Like someone said earlier, The Sega Dreamcast is the first system that did 3D properly. It just didn't have enough games.

Basically I think everyone who grew up on the NES first mostly believe that the 32-bit era didn't age well. However its not like we didn't enjoy the era when it was going on. It was fresh, but then went stale.

I can get behind the idea that Dreamcast was the first system to do 'good' 3D. I just don't get what the big deal is. It just seems excessively snooty to me, to pooh-pooh everything that doesn't meet some arbitrary graphical standard. When I play Syphon Filter or WipEout or whatever, I'm concentrated on having fun, I'm not thinking "there aren't enough polygons, how pedestrian". All of that stuff is just as playable as it ever was. Hell, even games like Zero Tolerance are still playable.

Schiggidyd
08-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Damn, you first few posters gotta relax with the N64 hating, there are much worse systems than that!

Space-Ace-13
08-28-2012, 10:44 AM
I would say 2 come to mind for me. First would be the Game.com, I got one of these for my birthday as a kid instead of a gameboy color. It looked so cool and advanced... but i pretty much sucked. Terrible touch screen controls, black & white graphics that were hard to see, and a bad game library. The other would be PC (not sure if this counts). I've never been a PC gamer and just don't really enjoy it for whatever reason.

I'm sure there would be more, but i havent played a lot of the obscure and older systems

Graham Mitchell
08-28-2012, 01:49 PM
Game gear. Nothing there but shitty ports and a few unique sonic games. I still love the unique games on the SMS, but the game gear never had anything with that level of appeal. In fact, back in the day, the coolest thing about my game gear was using the master gear converter so I could play phantasy star and wonder boy 3.

substantial_snake
08-28-2012, 02:51 PM
I can get behind the idea that Dreamcast was the first system to do 'good' 3D. I just don't get what the big deal is. It just seems excessively snooty to me, to pooh-pooh everything that doesn't meet some arbitrary graphical standard. When I play Syphon Filter or WipEout or whatever, I'm concentrated on having fun, I'm not thinking "there aren't enough polygons, how pedestrian". All of that stuff is just as playable as it ever was. Hell, even games like Zero Tolerance are still playable.

Personally its less about the quality of the 3D (although its definitely still a factor) then it is about control, especially in regards to camera control of 32 bit era games. Both of those things coupled make the 3D era much less appealing now then other previous generations of gaming. It largely wasn't an issue before the 32 bit era and largely hasn't been standardized after but the transitional period saw everyone trying a different control and camera layout for every other game even in the same genera with many of them simply not being very good due to lack of experience controlling objects in a 3D plane. There are a ton of great gems from this era that are playable today, but I think the vast majority of releases are certainty things you have to push yourself to adjust to again rather then just enjoying it from the get go.

Answer to general "why pick N64" question:
N64 is a console I both have a lot of experience with in its heyday and didn't like then and still and not fond of now. I would only chose something like the CDi, Jaguar, or whatever if I had played them more then once but I haven't yet I have with the N64 and still don't really enjoy it like any other console I have played extensively over the years.

BydoEmpire
08-28-2012, 05:09 PM
Early 3D is a little jarring to me because of the low framerate on a lot of titles. It definitely takes a while to adjust. That said, I was on a PS1 kick just a couple years ago and after a little while I started getting used to it and it was no longer an issue. It is unsettling for me [i]now[i] to go look at 15fps 3D because my eyes aren't used to it. If the game is fun, though, I'll stick with it.

j_factor
08-28-2012, 06:22 PM
A lot of games were 24-30 fps though. I actually agree, low frame rates get annoying, especially when they're inconsistent. But there's plenty of stuff that's worse than PSX/Saturn level. Have you played a SuperFX game lately?

Atarileaf
08-28-2012, 07:14 PM
Damn, you first few posters gotta relax with the N64 hating, there are much worse systems than that!

Its all subjective. The subject isn't "which is the worst console ever" its which console do you have no desire to play again. I can easily agree with the N64 choice.

Tanooki
08-28-2012, 07:28 PM
I've had a heap of systems over the years or in the case of the one I'll nominate used a friends a lot, but it would be the Atari 2600 and all 'flashback' variants as I have had those. I started out with friends who had that and the test launched NES in 85 I got. The 2600 just didn't have much good variety to me and most the arcade ports were pretty sorry. I never much liked the joystick on the thing and even against stuff like the coleco or a Fairchild Channel F my mom had I thought the audio more or less was underwhelming too. I won't touch the thing anymore, emulator, flashbacked or otherwise. It wasn't that hot back then and has aged horribly.

shogungb90
08-28-2012, 07:57 PM
I gotta throw my 2cents in here and say I dislike the Wii I think its the worst system I've ever owned I don't like a single thing about it .

Greg2600
08-28-2012, 08:33 PM
Sampled a PC-FX and Arcadia 2001 the other day, put them no my list. Never again!

Genesaturn
08-28-2012, 09:33 PM
I honestly only played the Atari once at a friends house growing up. It's well before my time and if I never played it again...I could care less.

A.C. Sativa
08-28-2012, 11:39 PM
Jaguar, Dreamcast (sold mine when I looked at it and realized I hadn't played it in about a year, just not very many good games for it), and everything pre-NES besides the Vectrix. Getting really close to this point with my Wii too, the game library is just shit, my love of the Williams pinball game is the only reason it's not in a box.

ultimaweapon
08-29-2012, 12:01 AM
dreamcast, I still don't understand how people love this piece of shit, aside from pso (which was done better on other platforms later) its library is a pile of awfull shovelware, there is no game that makes me want to hook it up again (other than pso which again was done better elsewhere)

runner up would be saturn, other than a great port of sotn guardian heroes and dragon force, this system can die in a fire.


Wow Dreamcast? Really? .Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, Power Stone, Shenmue, Soul Calibur, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Crazy Taxi, many 2D shooter titles, Skies of Arcadia, & more?

And on Saturn, Magic Knight Rayearth, Panzer Dragoon Zwei & Saga, House of the Dead, Clockwork Knight 2, Nights into Dreams, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Shining Force III, Shining the Holy Ark, Astal, Rayman?

There were more than enough titles on both platforms to make them worth having IMO.

ultimaweapon
08-29-2012, 12:02 AM
Atari Jaguar. What a piece of crap.

Genesaturn
08-29-2012, 03:35 PM
Wow Dreamcast? Really? .Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, Power Stone, Shenmue, Soul Calibur, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Crazy Taxi, many 2D shooter titles, Skies of Arcadia, & more?

And on Saturn, Magic Knight Rayearth, Panzer Dragoon Zwei & Saga, House of the Dead, Clockwork Knight 2, Nights into Dreams, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Shining Force III, Shining the Holy Ark, Astal, Rayman?

There were more than enough titles on both platforms to make them worth having IMO.

Sega fan's are a special breed of people I suppose lol

j_factor
08-29-2012, 09:39 PM
Sega fan's are a special breed of people I suppose lol

If by that you mean Sega fans are God's chosen people, I agree. ;)

Gameguy
08-30-2012, 01:05 AM
The quality of Sega's consoles goes;

Genesis/Sega CD/32X > Saturn > Sega Master System > Game Gear > Dreamcast

Saturn and SMS are pretty close though with quality, most of the good games for either system are rare or expensive and most people won't be playing them.

Tanooki
08-30-2012, 01:42 AM
Eh SMS I'd put over the Saturn. Also aside from getting raped stupid for a UPC sticker on Sonic or Buster Douglas Boxing there's really nothing that's truly 'expensive' for the system if we're talking USA releases other than maybe Power Strike that hits around $50 as can Golden Axe Warrior when it's complete too though it can go for $40 easily as well(which is what I got it for.) Most those SMS games complete fall into the sub-$10 range and a great many of the rest in the $20 or under area.

GizzyGames
08-30-2012, 02:04 AM
Was not a huge fan of the Atari Jag myself. Thought the controller was horrible.

Gameguy
08-30-2012, 02:16 AM
Eh SMS I'd put over the Saturn. Also aside from getting raped stupid for a UPC sticker on Sonic or Buster Douglas Boxing there's really nothing that's truly 'expensive' for the system if we're talking USA releases other than maybe Power Strike that hits around $50 as can Golden Axe Warrior when it's complete too though it can go for $40 easily as well(which is what I got it for.) Most those SMS games complete fall into the sub-$10 range and a great many of the rest in the $20 or under area.
SMS or Saturn could go either way in terms of which one is better, to me they're really that close so I won't argue either way about it. For either system there's only a handful of games I'd be interested in, less than 10 each that I'd try to get. I consider any game more than $50 to be expensive, even $20 is more than I'd normally spend on a game. For the SMS the good games are mostly over $50 complete, or European exclusives which are hard to find in North America. The easiest one to find is Phantasy Star. I don't really care that much about the cheaper titles. Phantasy Star and Golden Axe Warrior are the two games I think of with the SMS, I'd have to struggle a bit to think of other games I want to eventually play. Saturn has some games I want to get too, but they're not cheap titles either.

Still better than the Dreamcast, there's not a single title I can think of that I'd want to play again. I'm thinking of exclusives that weren't also released on other consoles.

MidnightRider
08-30-2012, 09:42 AM
Wow. I knew this would be harsh just reading the thread title.

I agree with the N64. Just not my kind of thing. Haven't enjoyed 3D platforming(among other things) at all. Plus that gamepad. I have no idea how anyone could find that comfortable, but then I just read a comment about how someone found the Genesis pad uncomfortable, and I always thought that was one of the more comfortable pads I've held.

For a lot of the same reasons as the N64, I could also say the Gamecube. Nothing seemed all that interesting to me.

Sega's 8-bit side. could just be a thing of never having had them when I was younger, but there just doesn't seem to be anything there that holds my interest, that the NES or Genesis didn't have competent enough versions of already.

I love the Genesis and the Dreamcast, but everything else in between... The Sega CD & Saturn, there might be 2-3 games I'd have any interest in...

Not that one should ever have to defend their position, but in the case of the Dreamcast, It was pretty much the last shot for arcade style gaming, which is what I prefer these days. That is where I believe others probably had issue with it, they just expect longer games since going 3D.

At this stage, I won't touch anything past the SNES, barring the next couple generations of Nintendo handhelds(Color & Advance), or just 2D cartridges for short.

Someone brought up how they couldn't play anything as simplistic as the 2600, but I almost prefer that, truth be told. I'll always love the 3rd and 4th generation, but the NES pretty much turned the hobby into something of a job with the whole "get to the end" thing. So I like the concept of something you play for however long/as many times as you choose to, as opposed to getting toward the scripted ending.

That's why I think sports, racing, wrestling, fighting, and some puzzle games are pretty much the best genres. You play those as much as you want to. Beat 'em ups, however, remain my favorite.

I know I already started going off topic at the end, but way off topic: Where can you find the animations in Tanooki's sig?

Eponasoft
08-30-2012, 01:56 PM
I don't think there's any systems I'd never play again. Every system has its faults, but none so bad that it makes them unplayable... even the Jaguar has its saving graces. I played the snot outta Tempest 2000 and Kasumi Ninja back in the day and loved every minute of it. Never owned a PC-FX but want one for homebrew, plus Ryphecha (I think) did a partial translation of Miraculum and it seemed like a cool game. Definitely want a Dreamcast for homebrew but have never played one (only an emulator). I just stick to the PC Engine for homebrew for now... would never ever give that up. I have never played a Virtual Boy... but that may end up breaking my "there's no systems I'd never play again" mantra if I ever do. :)

rewindtimegames
09-03-2012, 02:09 AM
That thing was huge and controller looked like a telephone with a joystick.

ReaXan
07-03-2013, 01:26 AM
bumped for further input.

BricatSegaFan
07-03-2013, 03:16 AM
Xbox360 hands down. It's been collecting dust for a while and I have no desire to play it again.

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-03-2013, 08:31 AM
Wow, I still love my N64 and PSone and would never give them up!

But the one system I'll probably never play again or really show any interest in again would be the Sega Saturn. I liked it a bit back in it's heyday but I really have no reason to go back to it, and you can add the Dreamcast to that list too since I've actually NEVER played it and have no interest in doing so.

Parodius Duh!
07-03-2013, 06:21 PM
Amiga CD32....my buddy grew up in the UK and when he moved to my hometown he brought this piece of junk with him. I guess it was only released in Western Europe and Canada and lasted about a year before they called it quits. We never had a chance to play it due to the PAL encoding, until we were in high school when he purchased the proper multi-system equipment to convert his PAL electronics to run with NTSC. All of the original games were awful and the rest were ports of earlier Amiga games. Although he did have this weird Doom clone called 'Gloom' that was pretty interesting and after doing some research there is what looks like a decent top down shooter called 'Banshee' .....Every other game he had was unbearable, especially this game called 'Final Gate'.

Banshee: http://youtu.be/RzXRluUE5YE

Gloom: http://youtu.be/BELCO16pwNM

Final Gate: http://youtu.be/6kWAYp_XZd4

sloan
07-03-2013, 06:48 PM
For all the N64 hatred spewing on this thread, I have one thing to say.

Mario Kart 64

Try that game with 4 players on a big screen setup and tell me with a straight face it was not a good time had by all.

Atarileaf
07-03-2013, 06:53 PM
For all the N64 hatred spewing on this thread, I have one thing to say.

Mario Kart 64

Try that game with 4 players on a big screen setup and tell me with a straight face it was not a good time had by all.

That's a good one but I don't have 3 other friends that would ever care to play it with me and I don't buy consoles for one game, if I did it would be Robotron 64 anyway.

otaku
07-03-2013, 08:05 PM
well to some extent all the 32bit and 64bit stuff looks pretty bad these days and the load times so yeah I could see not wanting to play that stuff but then so many awesome games on the psone and 64 (though many especially of the latter have become available on new systems) and some that have not been ported are worth obtaining these consoles for. If I had to pick a console I don't really ever need to have again its probably the neo geo pocket or aes much as I love the games they are everywhere and the costs are ridiculous for these and I've been there done that. Now an mvs....

needler420
07-03-2013, 09:26 PM
Xbox360 and Wii

I used to previously own them as well.

Another system I forever shunned is turbografx16 and jaguar. I never played them before and have no intentions to. Maybe if I came across them at the flea/yard sales for $10 buck.



It hurts when some of you say N64. N64 was my most prime main console. I consider it to have developed the hardcore skills I have today. It was also the first 3-D console with one analog joystick. You either were the type that walked into walls endlessly or you were able to get control of the character/game.

Gameguy
07-04-2013, 12:07 AM
For all the N64 hatred spewing on this thread, I have one thing to say.

Mario Kart 64

Try that game with 4 players on a big screen setup and tell me with a straight face it was not a good time had by all.
It's a good game, but do I need the console when it's just an updated version of Super Mario Kart which hasn't aged horribly at all? I don't play with other people so 4 players is a useless option to me.



It was also the first 3-D console with one analog joystick.


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needler420
07-04-2013, 12:13 AM
Forgot about the vectrex. Thing is so niche I think everyone overlooks it.

I never knew about it till I watched one of Pete Dorr's youtube videos.

Aussie2B
07-04-2013, 12:50 AM
It's a good game, but do I need the console when it's just an updated version of Super Mario Kart which hasn't aged horribly at all? I don't play with other people so 4 players is a useless option to me.

The games play significantly different, especially the battle modes. Super Mario Kart battle mode feels absolutely nothing like the Mario Kart 64 battle mode, which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned because I don't like the Super Mario Kart battle mode much and lose interest in it fast while I can never get enough of the Mario Kart 64 battle mode.

The Mario Kart series in general is kinda lame if you never do any multiplayer, but I guess if you're going to stick to single-player, then Super Mario Kart is the best one to go with. The cups in Mario Kart 64 are much too easy, even on the highest difficulty level.

sixwayshot
07-04-2013, 01:37 AM
Every time I boot up my 3DO, I realize that the majority of the games on it were released on other consoles in a better form.

It's still a neat piece of history, though.

Gameguy
07-04-2013, 03:21 AM
The Mario Kart series in general is kinda lame if you never do any multiplayer, but I guess if you're going to stick to single-player, then Super Mario Kart is the best one to go with. The cups in Mario Kart 64 are much too easy, even on the highest difficulty level.
That's the thing, I just play single player games so most multiplayer games aren't that special. When people go on about how great GoldenEye is or any of the other multiplayer N64 games it doesn't mean much to me.

Super Mario Kart is the type of game I play every few months for a few minutes at a time. A few quick play throughs is good enough for awhile, then I'll just move onto other things.

Tokimemofan
07-04-2013, 03:44 AM
I need Atari like I need a hole in the head (Any Atari). Still won't stop me from buying if I can flip it. I also need an Xbox like I need a disease.

bb_hood
07-04-2013, 03:51 AM
For all the N64 hatred spewing on this thread, I have one thing to say.

Mario Kart 64

Try that game with 4 players on a big screen setup and tell me with a straight face it was not a good time had by all.

I confess, Im a N64 hater. I have to admit Mario Kart for N64 is an excellent game.
The only problem I have with it is that I played it to death when I was in high school. Same thing with Goldeneye.

Jack_Burton_BYOAC
07-04-2013, 06:55 AM
None. I love video games, and that includes the ugly, the janky, the uninspired, and the just plain weird.

You guys who are saying you'll never play the N64 again because of bad graphics. Jeez, you're giving me flashbacks to talking about the NES circa 1995-1996. People were saying the exact same things about systems 2 or more generations old back then too.

Never play the N64 or PlayStation again? This is the classic gaming board, right?

JakeM
07-04-2013, 07:15 AM
I think if people hate N64 its probably because they were older than 12 and so the kiddy nature of the console just wanst working for them. Almost all the best games are pretty much for kids.

Wow, you guys hate N64 graphics? I guess you must really really really hate PS1 games.

Anyway, I would say the worst console I played was Xbox. I was at a game studios party that a friend of my moms invited her to. SO I was in a room with an Xbox, 5 games, a whoooooooooooooole lot of chocolate bars and other candy. I played with the HUGE controller for giants hands, which I didnt mind too much. Halo was ok, but the other games they had were not good. I dont remember what studio it was.

Man, a ton of trolls came out of the wood work here. I mean, I really cant say anything to people who dont like the PS1, N64 or cant understand how cool the Dreamcast is. Saying theres a ton of shovelware in libraries is moot because theres shovelware on EVERY SINGLE CONSOLE OR COMPUTER GREAT OR TERRIBLE. This thread gets a 1 star from me. I dont know how old you guys are, but honestly youre either too old and used to gaming in the 80's and 70's or youre too young and been raised on the PS3/360 generation to realize how revolutionary the late 90's consoles were.

Polygon
07-04-2013, 07:41 AM
The only system I've played that I can say I never want to play again, I would say would have to be the Virtual Boy.


I think if people hate N64 its probably because they were older than 12 and so the kiddy nature of the console just wanst working for them. Almost all the best games are pretty much for kids.

Wow, you guys hate N64 graphics? I guess you must really really really hate PS1 games.

I can't agree with your first statement. I was 17 when the N64 came out and I bought one at launch. Even after I claimed up and down that the Saturn was going to kill it. Also, not all the best games were for kids. I will agree with you second statement though. For reference, I own both.

JakeM
07-04-2013, 07:47 AM
I can't agree with your first statement. I was 17 when the N64 came out and I bought one at launch. Even after I claimed up and down that the Saturn was going to kill it. Also, not all the best games were for kids. I will agree with you second statement though. For reference, I own both.

Well, I dont think you read my statement too clearly, because you pretty much agree with it. People who didnt want to bu ya kiddy console wouldnt like the N64, and not all their best games were for kids, but a lot of them were.

Daltone
07-04-2013, 08:39 AM
The Sega Master System never did it for me, and probably still doesn't to this day.

Polygon
07-04-2013, 09:38 AM
Well, I dont think you read my statement too clearly, because you pretty much agree with it. People who didnt want to bu ya kiddy console wouldnt like the N64, and not all their best games were for kids, but a lot of them were.

No, I do understand your statement. You're saying the almost all of the best N64 games are for kids and I don't agree.

needler420
07-04-2013, 09:56 AM
Well, I dont think you read my statement too clearly, because you pretty much agree with it. People who didnt want to bu ya kiddy console wouldnt like the N64, and not all their best games were for kids, but a lot of them were.

Most people who got a N64 and was playing it around release 1996 would be grown up by now.

I believe N64/PS1 are fifth generation gaming consoles. People who played/owned these near release date will be in their twenties and up.

I also wouldn't say the games are meant for kids. At least not any more for kids then Nintendo makes their games now.

RP2A03
07-04-2013, 10:08 AM
No, I do understand your statement. You're saying the almost all of the best N64 games are for kids and I don't agree.

When you finally grow up you will understand, for you too will find that the N64 just can't satisfy the lust for blood that all mature adults possess.

needler420
07-04-2013, 10:25 AM
When you finally grow up you will understand, for you too will find that the N64 just can't satisfy the lust for blood that all mature adults possess.

LOL that is a really immature statement.

Nintendo in general has always from the dawn of their existence been geared towards kids. Even till this day. That's due to their first party titles. Mario being a major one.

I think the problem is you probably got your butt kicked in endless rounds of goldeneye. Or you're one of those people I was talking about. Hand them a new N64 game they never played and the N64 control and it's like watching a woman learn to drive. Running into every wall possible and has no control over the character or game.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9EhvDAMjWc

Daltone
07-04-2013, 10:30 AM
LOL that is a really immature statement.
...
Hand them a new N64 game they never played and the N64 control and it's like watching a woman learn to drive. Running into every wall possible and has no control over the character or game.

Top notch, sir! Top notch!

Polygon
07-04-2013, 12:55 PM
When you finally grow up you will understand, for you too will find that the N64 just can't satisfy the lust for blood that all mature adults possess.

Well, that's when I sit down on me PC and... BOOM! HEADSHOT!

bigbacon
07-04-2013, 01:36 PM
N64..

I hated it back in the day, I still hate it today. I just sold mine second one a few weeks ago.

Polygon
07-04-2013, 03:57 PM
I you hate it so much why did you have two of them?

Little Miss Gloom
07-04-2013, 07:38 PM
I honestly really dislike the N64 and the PS2, as heretical as that sounds.

N64's controller is total crap, and as someone who was a huge RPG fanatic back in the day, the PSX had a whole lot more to offer to me.

PS2 is just an ugly-looking console to me. Although I love the DVD feature on it, I'm not captured by much of the PS2's library. Actually, most of that gen's games failed to really impress me much.

Atarileaf
07-04-2013, 07:53 PM
Kinda off topic but when I did own both an N64 and PS1 we owned both Mario Kart 64 and Crash Team Racing and I gotta tell ya, Crash Team Racing was the better, more popular, and more played kart racing game, hands down, in our house.

I will say that Mario Kart DS is excellent though.

I will agree with those that say that if you're already an adult when you started playing the N64 (I was 29 in 1998 when we got one) I thought it was mostly a kiddie console compared to the PS1, a console I similarly have no desire to play again. Of course I was heavily into PC gaming in the 90's and no console was ever going to come close to the PC experience back then when Lucasarts ruled the planet and my gaming life.

Aussie2B
07-04-2013, 09:35 PM
I think the problem is you probably got your butt kicked in endless rounds of goldeneye. Or you're one of those people I was talking about. Hand them a new N64 game they never played and the N64 control and it's like watching a woman learn to drive. Running into every wall possible and has no control over the character or game.

Uh, you do realize that there ARE women on this board, right?

bigbacon
07-04-2013, 10:20 PM
i was in my teens when the N64 came out and I disliked it from the get go. I had one, I had a bunch of games, controllers, etc but I just never really liked any of the games.

I will admit that mario kart 64 is the best one they made. Yes I played lots of golden eye but it was still never awesome of a gmae just fun to sit around and play with people.

Aussie2B
07-04-2013, 11:08 PM
I was 14 when the N64 launched, I was very happy to get it at that time, and I continued to enjoy many games on the system as I got older and still enjoy the system to this day, so meh to this argument that age plays any role in one's fondness or lack thereof of the N64.

Also, I feel sorry for anybody who feels any games are too "kiddy" for them, unless we're talking edutainment games or something. If your maturity and/or masculinity is threatened by a cute, family-friendly game, then grow up. There's more to gaming than cursing, gore, and bouncing breasts.

needler420
07-04-2013, 11:19 PM
Uh, you do realize that there ARE women on this board, right?
I meant my sister and mom and Danica Patrick suck at at driving. I can't speak for anyone else.

Daltone
07-05-2013, 02:31 AM
that is a really immature statement....and it's like watching a woman learn to drive. Running into every wall possible and has no control over the character or game.


I meant my sister and mom and Danica Patrick suck at at driving. I can't speak for anyone else.

Excellent back peddling.

BricatSegaFan
07-05-2013, 03:41 AM
Excellent back peddling.

^
This

needler420
07-05-2013, 07:20 AM
Foot on the pedal - never ever false metal
Engine running hotter than a boiling kettle
My job's ain't a job - it's a damn good time
City to city - I'm running my rhymes.:vamp:

Frankie_Says_Relax
07-05-2013, 07:58 AM
I think the problem is you probably got your butt kicked in endless rounds of goldeneye. Or you're one of those people I was talking about. Hand them a new N64 game they never played and the N64 control and it's like watching a woman learn to drive. Running into every wall possible and has no control over the character or game.

General, garden variety ignorance we can handle.

Ineptitude regarding citation of content from other forums ... we chalked that up to the fact that nobody ever taught you the right way to handle those types of things.

Differing of opinions on sensitive topics related to classic gaming (repros, emulators, etc.) we can handle.

Unprovoked displays of sexism?

Sorry, you're done. Good riddance.

Atarileaf
07-05-2013, 06:36 PM
Also, I feel sorry for anybody who feels any games are too "kiddy" for them, unless we're talking edutainment games or something. If your maturity and/or masculinity is threatened by a cute, family-friendly game, then grow up. There's more to gaming than cursing, gore, and bouncing breasts.


For me, its not that games with cute cartoon characters are the problem, I grew up with arcade games like Donkey Kong and pacman, very much cartoon style characters. Its the genre of game that was changing - I never really liked 3D platformers, RPG,s or action games so stuff like Mario 64, Zelda, or Banjo Kazooie just didn't appeal to me.

In general though, I have absolutely no problem with "kiddy" games but they have to fit into the genre and style of game I enjoy, which weren't found on the N64, PS1 or other consoles after the 16-bit era.

And just as an offside, I can't stand games with a lot of gore, violence or cursing either which is why most of the current gen turns me off too.

Flam
07-06-2013, 12:30 AM
So Needler got banned? I will say I kinda liked how he shook stuff up from time to time, but the last few weeks got out of hand. Glad he's gone.

Atarileaf
07-06-2013, 07:45 AM
So Needler got banned? I will say I kinda liked how he shook stuff up from time to time, but the last few weeks got out of hand. Glad he's gone.

Now he's got more time to clean his bong and get high.

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-06-2013, 09:19 AM
Aside from the Saturn an Dreamcast which I had mentioned earlier I would toss the Atari 5200 into that mix. I do, however, want to pick up a 7800 eventually since I have like 9 games for it I've never tried

Frankie_Says_Relax
07-06-2013, 11:40 AM
So Needler got banned? I will say I kinda liked how he shook stuff up from time to time, but the last few weeks got out of hand. Glad he's gone.

I think we're all capable of dealing with a myopic, abrasive, juvinile personality, as long as it has to do with games, game consoles, game collecting.

There's room for opinions across the spectrum here to do with games.

Sexism, racism, attacks on religion or any other assorted unprovoked bullying I have no patience or tolerance for.

Again, good riddance to bad rubbish.

sloan
07-06-2013, 12:04 PM
Aside from the Saturn an Dreamcast which I had mentioned earlier I would toss the Atari 5200 into that mix. I do, however, want to pick up a 7800 eventually since I have like 9 games for it I've never tried

The 5200?

That system is the best Atari ever released. If you want 80's arcade goodness, there really is no other choice.

Atarileaf
07-06-2013, 12:24 PM
The 5200?

That system is the best Atari ever released. If you want 80's arcade goodness, there really is no other choice.

I know I'm a broken record on this but I'd always recommend an 800XL over the 5200 - same library for the most part and no need to fiddle with wonky controllers. 800XL's are pretty affordable too.

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-06-2013, 02:09 PM
The 5200?

That system is the best Atari ever released. If you want 80's arcade goodness, there really is no other choice.

Most of the good arcade games (or popular arcade games) are available on the NES and/or 2600 and 7800, which are all systems that are vastly superior to the 5200 in my book.

sloan
07-06-2013, 02:36 PM
Most of the good arcade games (or popular arcade games) are available on the NES and/or 2600 and 7800, which are all systems that are vastly superior to the 5200 in my book.

Space Dungeon with twin sticks, I do not believe you can play it on 7800 or NES. Gremlins saw a VCS port, but is is nothing like the 5200 version. 5200 Pitfall II has extra levels that you cannot get anywhere else. Pac Man on the supersystem is my favorite version by far. What more can I say? 5200 offers an experience that cannot be had on 800XL, 7800, NES, or elsewhere.

WCP
07-06-2013, 07:53 PM
I can't really say with honesty that there are systems I would never, ever care about playing again, but there are some that I certainly don't have a problem kinda forgetting about for awhile.


Atari 2600 - this was my first system as a kid, and I should be nostalgic for it. 5 minutes of Air-Sea Battle is fun but other than that I just don't have that retro love for it.

Sega Master System - never owned this originally, but ended up getting one a few years back. Just couldn't get into it.

Nintendo 64 - There are only a handful of games on this system that really speak to me, and overall I just don't get that "retro" feel from the N64, so there isn't a big nostalgia thing with it for me. I just think of the blurry visuals and the fog effects. In a few more years, the N64 will be pretty old, and then maybe I will feel more of a longing to play it ?

Dreamcast - There will be a time when I really, really, really want to play a bunch of Dreamcast games, but right now is not that time. The Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox 1 era is still too recent for me to really be into playing that stuff. I'm usually either all retro and all modern, I don't typically play the stuff that is 10 to 15 years old. It's too recent for the retro love, and I'd rather just play the most up to date stuff if I want semi-modern style gameplay.

PS2 - see Dreamcast

Xbox Original - see Dreamcast

GameCube - see Dreamcast

Polygon
07-06-2013, 08:34 PM
Dreamcast - There will be a time when I really, really, really want to play a bunch of Dreamcast games, but right now is not that time. The Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox 1 era is still too recent for me to really be into playing that stuff. I'm usually either all retro and all modern, I don't typically play the stuff that is 10 to 15 years old. It's too recent for the retro love, and I'd rather just play the most up to date stuff if I want semi-modern style gameplay.

PS2 - see Dreamcast

Xbox Original - see Dreamcast

GameCube - see Dreamcast

I think that's a widely shared sentiment being that they're, for the most part, pretty cheap to collect for right now.