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ShinobiMan
07-07-2013, 12:30 AM
None. I love video games, and that includes the ugly, the janky, the uninspired, and the just plain weird.

You guys who are saying you'll never play the N64 again because of bad graphics. Jeez, you're giving me flashbacks to talking about the NES circa 1995-1996. People were saying the exact same things about systems 2 or more generations old back then too.

Never play the N64 or PlayStation again? This is the classic gaming board, right?

My sentiments exactly. I've been feeling the same way as I read through this thread.

The 1 2 P
07-07-2013, 12:36 AM
Kinda off topic but when I did own both an N64 and PS1 we owned both Mario Kart 64 and Crash Team Racing and I gotta tell ya, Crash Team Racing was the better, more popular, and more played kart racing game, hands down, in our house.

I too have always felt that Crash Team Racing was much more fun than Mario Kart 64. I played the hell out of CTR and eventually got the Japanese import version to play thru that as well. Back on topic, there are probably several systems I won't get around to playing anymore due to time constraints and the real world. But the one system I know for certain that I will never have any earthly desire to ever play again would be the first system my family ever owned: the Atari 2600. There were a few games I enjoyed playing on it back then but I could never go back to that on a regular basis which is probably why I don't even collect for systems pre-Nes. But plain and simple the system just isn't enjoyable to me and I have no nostalgia towards it at all.

Atarileaf
07-07-2013, 08:50 AM
http://www.digitpress.com/images/forum_icons/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jack_Burton_BYOAC http://www.digitpress.com/images/forum_icons/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1973675#post1973675)
None. I love video games, and that includes the ugly, the janky, the uninspired, and the just plain weird.

You guys who are saying you'll never play the N64 again because of bad graphics. Jeez, you're giving me flashbacks to talking about the NES circa 1995-1996. People were saying the exact same things about systems 2 or more generations old back then too.

Never play the N64 or PlayStation again? This is the classic gaming board, right?




My sentiments exactly. I've been feeling the same way as I read through this thread.

Again, I can't speak for others but graphics have nothing to do with my dislike for the N64 (although no, I don't care for the graphics of the 32 bit era) but as I already mentioned, for the most part the type of games being produced just didn't appeal to me. THAT'S why I don't care for the systems.

If you don't like the style or type of games, why play it?

ShinobiMan
07-07-2013, 09:57 AM
Those who say they'll never play a particular system based in graphics power remind me of people who refuse to watch black & white movies or silent films just because they look archaic compared to today.

A plea to those who think that way... have an open mind! Don't let the standards of today keep you from enjoying something classic. Many of the systems being listed in this thread indeed have multiple brilliant games. Let's enjoy them for what they are and not make comparisons!

Little Miss Gloom
07-07-2013, 10:45 AM
I don't want to feel like I'm justifying myself, but for me it was plain and simple the games on the N64 and the PS2. I hate the N64's controller, which doesn't help.

If the N64 took more risks with 2D-styled games like Mischief Makers and actually -had- RPGs other than Ogre Battle and Paper Mario on it, maybe I'd give it a fairer shot. I grew up with a PS1 also, and that's where all of the experimental RPGs that I loved made a home.

PS2 just went in a weird direction for me. I can't actually explain it - and no amount of rationalizing or writing out why makes any real sense, and likely makes me seem pretty ignorant. The PS2's library just went in a direction from the PS1 library that I wasn't ready for. Not to say there aren't classics. I love Devil May Cry and We <3 Katamari ... but there's something just lacking on the PS2 that the PS1 captured so perfectly. Lots of great compilations and collections, though.

wiggyx
07-07-2013, 01:08 PM
http://www.digitpress.com/images/forum_icons/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Jack_Burton_BYOAC http://www.digitpress.com/images/forum_icons/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1973675#post1973675)
None. I love video games, and that includes the ugly, the janky, the uninspired, and the just plain weird.

You guys who are saying you'll never play the N64 again because of bad graphics. Jeez, you're giving me flashbacks to talking about the NES circa 1995-1996. People were saying the exact same things about systems 2 or more generations old back then too.

Never play the N64 or PlayStation again? This is the classic gaming board, right?





Again, I can't speak for others but graphics have nothing to do with my dislike for the N64 (although no, I don't care for the graphics of the 32 bit era) but as I already mentioned, for the most part the type of games being produced just didn't appeal to me. THAT'S why I don't care for the systems.

If you don't like the style or type of games, why play it?

It's perfectly reasonable to not like games of a certain generation. Look at cars over the years. Personally, I think nearly everything produced in the late 70's and 80's should be completely forgotten. It was a (really rough) transition period, and gave way to some of the great engine designs of today. Still, those cars sucked something fierce.

If there was a transition period for games, the 32-bit era was it (which isn't to say that I don't like the games from that generation. Quite the opposite).

sayewonn
07-07-2013, 04:50 PM
the Atari 2600. I had fun playing those games back when I was little but they're too simple for me to have any enjoyment with.

PS One - to a certain extent its hard to go back to games from that generation due to the rampant low framerates, clipping and such. I find that I have little patience for the games that had a gem of a good idea but were marred by technical issues.

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-08-2013, 06:40 AM
For a "classic gaming" forum a lot of people sure don't want to play classic games.......

Seriously though, being a student of the hobby and having as big of a passion for playing and collecting classic games I've got to say that there is NO system I wouldn't want to collect for and play. Even though I said Saturn and Dreamcast earlier on I still plan on playing them and building the collection.

Little Miss Gloom
07-08-2013, 01:55 PM
For a "classic gaming" forum a lot of people sure don't want to play classic games.......

http://bookyurt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/McKayla-is-not-impressed.jpg

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Atarileaf
07-08-2013, 06:42 PM
For a "classic gaming" forum a lot of people sure don't want to play classic games.......

Seriously though, being a student of the hobby and having as big of a passion for playing and collecting classic games I've got to say that there is NO system I wouldn't want to collect for and play. Even though I said Saturn and Dreamcast earlier on I still plan on playing them and building the collection.

That's certainly a reasonable perspective but for me personally I've been through the whole "collect anything and everything" way of collecting and I found I lost enjoyment. Space and money are also issues. Sure there might be some interesting precrash systems that I'd love to find and at least try but I simply have no place to put all of these. I already downsized, getting rid of those systems I played the least or not at all which included N64, PS1, Dreamcast, Intellivision, ZX Spectrum, Commodore Vic-20 and others I can recall at the moment.

If someone has the time and desire to "collect it all" I think that's fantastic but I don't like the idea that if someone doesn't like, play or collect for certain consoles then they are somehow less of a collector.

Immutable
07-09-2013, 12:46 PM
For myself, the Odyessy2. If I'm not mistaken, the best selling game on that console was a Pac-man clone.

treismac
07-10-2013, 01:12 AM
Now [Needler's] got more time to clean his bong and get high.

He struck me as the type who drinks his bong's water after smoking.

BlastProcessing402
07-11-2013, 07:31 PM
Just counting systems I've actually owned, I doubt I'll ever play Arcadia 2001 again. I think I probably still have one in the basement, but I doubt it will ever turn up unless I move. I'm certainly not going to look for it.

The rest, if I'm not playing it again, it's because I can play the games on a newer system, like my original GameBoy, I'm probably not going to be playing that again, but that's because I can play the games on my GBASP. (or my GBA, or my GBC, or my SuperGB)

InsaneDavid
07-24-2013, 12:25 AM
I get the sneaking suspicion that some of you don't even like to play retrogames or just do so because it's hipster trendy. Now some of the really obscure stuff mentioned, that makes sense as most of the time obscure consoles are that way because they were either designed poorly or use a technology in its infancy. However NES, Atari VCS, PS2, N64, TurboGrafx-16? What is this, out-snob time on the playground at boarding school? I really don't care for the Master System but there are a couple great games on it. Same thing with N64, don't really care a ton for the hardware but games like F-Zero X and Starfox 64 are great fun. The Vectrex being obscure?! Sure when compared to the Atari VCS but then again what isn't from that era? 5200 controllers suck for most of the games but there are some great arcade conversions on the console. Sega CD? If it wasn't for a few RPG's and adventure games then I guess it could be banished to the waste bin... oh wait, SCD Popful Mail is my favorite game on that entire hardware family (Genesis / SCD / 32X) so I guess I can't do that. You know what I primarily play on my Saturn? The Capcom Generation series (JPN) because they play better than the import PS1 equivalents and better than the PS2 compilation.

That people look at video game systems as something in the form of a rotting pile of dung that they are repulsed at the nature of ever having another (or in the case of some comments, a first) encounter with is, well... insane. There's entertainment everywhere in this industry and in the history of this industry. You can have systems that you don't generally like, that you don't care to own, but if you're telling me there won't be SOMETHING that you'll at least have some small form of enjoyment and entertainment playing a game on, even if it's just for three minutes, then my mind is blown in disbelief that someone can miss the point of video games so horribly. There are bad games, but to cast aside entire hardware catalogs as unplayable makes no sense.

You know what, I have no desire to ever play an Adventurevision again because it's just too damn red. Maybe if I found one for $5.00 at a yard sale... ...who am I kidding, it has a pretty solid version of Defender for a little tabletop box of LEDs.

At least the removal of needler420 is something spectacular to come out of this thread.

Atarileaf
07-24-2013, 09:05 AM
I think people are lumping "I have no desire to play this again" (which is the thread title) with "this machine sucks and anyone who likes it is stupid and beneath me"

Again I make the comparison with movies, not many people LOVE every movie ever made, many don't like certain genre's of movies such as horror, period drama's, or Adam Sandler. Does that mean they're snobs and are just posers about being movie fans? Of course not, that's a ridiculous statement.

The same is true for video games. Not every game and every system is going to appeal to everyone. Just because someone doesn't like the 2600, the N64 or the Master System doesn't mean they aren't really gamers.

Nophix
07-24-2013, 11:33 AM
I have 0 desire to ever pick up an original GBA. I hated the screen on that thing!

Picked up an SP and never looked back.

I'm going to catch it for this one, but the PS2 is pretty high on my list of crap consoles. There are a lot of amazing games, but the hardware is garbage! I've had such terrible luck with those consoles. Sad thing is, I'm very good to my gear. I even still have a launch 360 working (one red ring fixed under warranty). It's the most used console, too.

I wish there was a better option for the PS2 like there was for the GBA.

BricatSegaFan
07-24-2013, 02:07 PM
I have 0 desire to ever pick up an original GBA. I hated the screen on that thing!

Picked up an SP and never looked back.

I'm going to catch it for this one, but the PS2 is pretty high on my list of crap consoles. There are a lot of amazing games, but the hardware is garbage! I've had such terrible luck with those consoles. Sad thing is, I'm very good to my gear. I even still have a launch 360 working (one red ring fixed under warranty). It's the most used console, too.

I wish there was a better option for the PS2 like there was for the GBA.

You may want to look at wiggys modded GBA's they are pretty damn sweet ;)

Aussie2B
07-24-2013, 02:09 PM
I'm going to catch it for this one, but the PS2 is pretty high on my list of crap consoles. There are a lot of amazing games, but the hardware is garbage! I've had such terrible luck with those consoles. Sad thing is, I'm very good to my gear. I even still have a launch 360 working (one red ring fixed under warranty). It's the most used console, too.

I wish there was a better option for the PS2 like there was for the GBA.

The slim model? The later ones are fairly reliable (early slims overheat, big surprise), at least by Sony console standards. The slim also has the advantage of a flip-top lid, so you don't have to worry about the mechanical tray breaking down like with the original model (those are gonna be fun to deal with in 20 years, just like the model 1 Sega CD systems).

FFStudios
07-24-2013, 07:33 PM
Can't stand the N64 only because the controller was awful to play with and I went through so many different ones because of the garbage joystick that I got fed up with it. I became a Sony boy after I sold my N64 and bought a Playstation (although I didn't exactly do the selling myself, I was too young. My parents did it for me!)

EDIT: I'd be willing to play maybe a couple games again, but I've tried playing at friends' houses and it just doesn't do the magic for me that other consoles do. Oh, and the Virtual Boy. Screw the Virtual Boy.

Nophix
07-24-2013, 07:38 PM
The slim model? The later ones are fairly reliable (early slims overheat, big surprise), at least by Sony console standards. The slim also has the advantage of a flip-top lid, so you don't have to worry about the mechanical tray breaking down like with the original model (those are gonna be fun to deal with in 20 years, just like the model 1 Sega CD systems).

I've had several of each. My current silver slim seems to be holding on, sort of. It's fussy but it works.

Nophix
07-24-2013, 07:41 PM
You may want to look at wiggys modded GBA's they are pretty damn sweet ;)

I like the GBA SP, so I still play the games.

No, let me correct that. I LOVE the SP. it's one of my favorite consoles.

Funny enough, the same thing happened with the DS. I had an original and went back to the SP. then, I got a good deal on a Lite, and gave it another shot. Loved it!

The original Gameboy and 3DS seem to be the only ones they got right first IMHO.

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-26-2013, 06:33 AM
Some of my friends are really into collecting and playing games for the Intellivison and Colecovision and urge me to get in on it with them but I just have NO desire to go back and play those consoles. I do own a few games for both and I have an Intellivision console but I don't plan on adding to the collection or have any plans on buying a Coleco whatsoever.

Atarileaf
07-26-2013, 06:50 AM
Speaking of Colecovision, if anyone does want to get one, I highly recommend getting a refurbished one from a reliable source, such as the user on Atariage where I got mine.

Units found in the wild are highly likely to be flaky or not work at all since some very common issues affect these systems like controller port or power switch issues and would make owning and collecting for the CV a frustrating experience.

wiggyx
07-26-2013, 08:39 AM
You may want to look at wiggys modded GBA's they are pretty damn sweet ;)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/wiggyx/smiley%20and%20meme/clap.gif~original

Aussie2B
07-26-2013, 04:33 PM
Some of my friends are really into collecting and playing games for the Intellivison and Colecovision and urge me to get in on it with them but I just have NO desire to go back and play those consoles. I do own a few games for both and I have an Intellivision console but I don't plan on adding to the collection or have any plans on buying a Coleco whatsoever.

Of all the pre-crash systems, I think the Colecovision would be the most appealing for anyone who isn't that into the idea of revisiting that era. It's just leagues ahead of the 2600 and Intellivision, as far as I'm concerned, and the games are fairly comparable to early NES releases.

TheRetroVideoGameAddict
07-26-2013, 04:39 PM
Of all the pre-crash systems, I think the Colecovision would be the most appealing for anyone who isn't that into the idea of revisiting that era. It's just leagues ahead of the 2600 and Intellivision, as far as I'm concerned, and the games are fairly comparable to early NES releases.

I'm sure they are, I'm just such a huge 2600 fan that I tend to play those games over anything that was released in the pre-crash era. I may try to fire up the Intellevision someday or pick up a Coleco to play the few games I have for it, but it wouldn't be for a while since I have such a backlog of NES games I'm trying to experience and finish in 2013/2014. Like I said though, my buddies are really into the Coleco and Intellevision and I get to see them play them at their places once in a while.

Atarileaf
07-26-2013, 05:09 PM
I'm sure they are, I'm just such a huge 2600 fan that I tend to play those games over anything that was released in the pre-crash era.

Me too, for example bump and jump looks better on the intellivision and CV but I have a lot more fun playing the 2600 version.

mercuryshadow09
06-02-2015, 09:19 PM
I can't really say with honesty that there are systems I would never, ever care about playing again, but there are some that I certainly don't have a problem kinda forgetting about for awhile.


Atari 2600 - this was my first system as a kid, and I should be nostalgic for it. 5 minutes of Air-Sea Battle is fun but other than that I just don't have that retro love for it.


Nintendo 64 - There are only a handful of games on this system that really speak to me, and overall I just don't get that "retro" feel from the N64, so there isn't a big nostalgia thing with it for me. I just think of the blurry visuals and the fog effects. In a few more years, the N64 will be pretty old, and then maybe I will feel more of a longing to play it ?

Dreamcast - There will be a time when I really, really, really want to play a bunch of Dreamcast games, but right now is not that time. The Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox 1 era is still too recent for me to really be into playing that stuff. I'm usually either all retro and all modern, I don't typically play the stuff that is 10 to 15 years old. It's too recent for the retro love, and I'd rather just play the most up to date stuff if I want semi-modern style gameplay.



These are pretty much my sentiments exactly, though I still love O Xbox games for the fact that they didn't yet really implement the DLC thing and for the most part games weren't broken!

ZeroCool
06-02-2015, 11:10 PM
Philips CD-i

celerystalker
06-03-2015, 12:16 AM
I can't. Every console I own, I'll go back to again. I guess I could pick on a learning system like Pico or something, but I don't think it would be in the spirit of the question. I like games.

mercuryshadow09
06-03-2015, 03:10 AM
The question itself is tripping me up, I will play whatever you put a controller in my hand for, the consoles I listed I don't collect for anymore, I do have a Dreamcast and a 64 but I couldn't be bothered dragging them out to hook them up for an hour or two, two I don't have and wouldn't bother with again are Sega 32X and Atari Jaguar for the lack of games on either. Though I haven't played a Jaguar game since it first came out, I had my Jaguar until Christmas and gave it to a friend because I was broke and couldn't afford gifts, he still gives me hell about that shitty Christmas present, lol.

Niku-Sama
06-04-2015, 06:05 AM
Apf tv fun

Alexander
06-04-2015, 12:21 PM
I've gotta go with the Wii. That nunchuk controller was silly.

celerystalker
06-04-2015, 12:53 PM
I've gotta go with the Wii. That nunchuk controller was silly.

I'll always keep my Wii, if for no other reasons than Fortune Street and Gunblade NY/LA Machineguns.

Retronick
06-04-2015, 03:08 PM
Game.com. We bought it as more of a joke than anything and I can say with all honesty that I never get the urge to play it. My Virtual Boy on the other hand... I'm upset that the display is hosed. Would love to play me some Wario.

Oh, and I could probably never play an NES again and be ok with it. I grew up with an Atari 2600 and a TurboGrafx-16, so I think it's really a case of just getting to it too late. I own a bunch of NES games and have tried to really get into it, I just don't get the appeal except for nostalgia. Though I'm really excited about the Commodore 64s I picked up so I might just not like Nintendo... Search me.

CDiablo
06-04-2015, 03:36 PM
Oddly enough I don't think there is a system I don't want to play now and again but if I had to it might be the 3D0. 95% of its library has definitive PC versions though native controller support is useful when thinking about how difficult it got at times to get gamepads to work.

wizardofwor1975
06-04-2015, 05:39 PM
I have no desire to play the Atari 5200 again. Although, I love my Atari 7800 and use it often to play my 2600 carts as well. I just couldn't get into the 5200.

Retronick- Welcome to the C64 family!!! Always glad to hear from people who appreciate the good old Commodore 64. The C64 is without a doubt my favorite vintage computer in my collection. Although, my SX-64, Vic-20, and Amiga 500 are very close runners up.

evildead2099
06-07-2015, 10:58 PM
dreamcast, I still don't understand how people love this piece of shit, aside from pso (which was done better on other platforms later) its library is a pile of awfull shovelware, there is no game that makes me want to hook it up again (other than pso which again was done better elsewhere)

runner up would be saturn, other than a great port of sotn guardian heroes and dragon force, this system can die in a fire.


So Shenmue I & II, Rez, Jet Grind Radio, Soul Calibur I, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, and countless other classic titles are all 'shovelware' to you? I think many people would agree that your idea of 'shovelware' is pretty distorted, or you're simply trolling.

mercuryshadow09
06-08-2015, 12:18 AM
So Shenmue I & II, Rez, Jet Grind Radio, Soul Calibur I, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, and countless other classic titles are all 'shovelware' to you? I think many people would agree that your idea of 'shovelware' is pretty distorted, or you're simply trolling.

I was thinking the same thing but figured I'd let somebody else call him out on it!

celerystalker
06-08-2015, 12:37 AM
Yeah... both of those systems are littered with great arcade ports. I mean, this thread is inherently subjective, but those 2 systems to me were phenomenal, loaded with great exclusives, as well as Sega at its most insane with the bizarre products they've put out. I could sit here and rattle off titles, but I don't think it's necessary. I can't imagine two systems with less shovelware, though. The quality/crap ratio for popular systems is pretty darn good.

mercuryshadow09
06-08-2015, 01:25 AM
Yeah... both of those systems are littered with great arcade ports. I mean, this thread is inherently subjective, but those 2 systems to me were phenomenal, loaded with great exclusives, as well as Sega at its most insane with the bizarre products they've put out. I could sit here and rattle off titles, but I don't think it's necessary. I can't imagine two systems with less shovelware, though. The quality/crap ratio for popular systems is pretty darn good.

I couldn't agree more, my DC doesn't get as much love lately but I love my Saturn!

bb_hood
06-08-2015, 02:34 AM
I have no desire to play the Atari 5200 again. Although, I love my Atari 7800 and use it often to play my 2600 carts as well. I just couldn't get into the 5200.



The main problem with the 5200 is that the system is just gigantic.
Its just not worth having around considering how few games are on it.
I actually like the 5200 controller alot. Often times they are found non-functional but once you get them working they are very comfortable to use.

Retronick
06-08-2015, 08:52 AM
I have no desire to play the Atari 5200 again. Although, I love my Atari 7800 and use it often to play my 2600 carts as well. I just couldn't get into the 5200.

Retronick- Welcome to the C64 family!!! Always glad to hear from people who appreciate the good old Commodore 64. The C64 is without a doubt my favorite vintage computer in my collection. Although, my SX-64, Vic-20, and Amiga 500 are very close runners up.

Thanks! I'm looking forward to spending a day playing with it to see what it's really capable of. Friend of mine suggested writing my own text based adventure game in BASIC so now I have a quest!

Retronick
06-08-2015, 08:55 AM
So Shenmue I & II, Rez, Jet Grind Radio, Soul Calibur I, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, and countless other classic titles are all 'shovelware' to you? I think many people would agree that your idea of 'shovelware' is pretty distorted, or you're simply trolling.

All garbage, but then, you probably thought Skeleton Warriors (The best game on the Saturn), was a waste of time ;P.

Seriously though. Shovelware? Come on, those games are incredible.

Az
06-08-2015, 11:11 PM
Gameboy Color - With B&W GB games I can at least give a few a pass due to the nostalgia factor of playing them in the past. I never owned a GBC when it was current and having a color screen that wasn't backlit really had no appeal to me after logging so much time in on my Game Gear and Nomad. Other than a few oddball unlicensed Chinese games I can't think of one game I want to play on it that doesn't have a better alternative elsewhere.

N64 - Same case as above. Didn't own one when it was current and only spent a small amount of time playing it during downtime while working at a video store. I know good games exist for it, but none of them are genres I enjoy and can't think of any that I have a desire to seek out. Picked up the WCW/Virtual Pro Wrestling games and time has not been kind to them.

homerhomer
06-09-2015, 01:14 AM
I would have to got with the 5200. This was a Christmas present back in early 80's and at the time amazing. But the fun only last for a little while an then it fell apart. The controllers stopped working and I think there was some power issues too. The funny thing is I like the 2600 and the 7800 is neat too ( why crappy sound damn it! ). I think the 5200 is more hassle than it's worth. I really like the analog controls and I know there's better controllers now but, it just don't appeal.

LOL, my bro-in law has one and I was like, eh. Although if I find game in the wid, it's fun to find for him. I'm nuts.

wizardofwor1975
06-09-2015, 10:06 PM
The main problem with the 5200 is that the system is just gigantic.
Its just not worth having around considering how few games are on it.
I actually like the 5200 controller alot. Often times they are found non-functional but once you get them working they are very comfortable to use.

I couldn't agree more. Whats up with the enormous power supply? Was there some sort of technical reason for the gigantic power supply?


I would have to got with the 5200. This was a Christmas present back in early 80's and at the time amazing. But the fun only last for a little while an then it fell apart. The controllers stopped working and I think there was some power issues too. The funny thing is I like the 2600 and the 7800 is neat too ( why crappy sound damn it! ). I think the 5200 is more hassle than it's worth. I really like the analog controls and I know there's better controllers now but, it just don't appeal.

LOL, my bro-in law has one and I was like, eh. Although if I find game in the wid, it's fun to find for him. I'm nuts.

The funny thing is I actually like some of the 5200's games but not enough to start another collection. Its my understanding that for the sake of backwards compatibility the 7800 used the TIA chip for sound which resulted in sound quality that is virtually identical to the 2600. Some of the 7800's games like Commando had the POKEY chip built into the cartridge. IMHO, the 7800's port of Commando is one of the best due in no small part to the POKEY chip.

bb_hood
06-09-2015, 10:31 PM
I couldn't agree more. Whats up with the enormous power supply? Was there some sort of technical reason for the gigantic power supply?



Yeah, there is that also. That huge brick thats way larger than it has to be. Plus the stupid RF switchbox that sparks everytime you plug it in. It is one of the worst designs in history.
The controller gets alot of hate, and for the most part it deserves it. The push buttons all stop working, but if you take apart the controller and clean the contacts with rubbing alc it fixes the problem. Ive probably 'fixed' about 10 controllers this way.

Atarileaf
06-10-2015, 06:44 AM
I'm a big proponent of going with the Atari 800XL or similar 8-bit computer instead of the 5200. A good chunk of the library is exactly the same and the games play the same (the 5200 is basically an 800 computer at heart) and you can use normal joysticks so no headaches with the 5200 controllers and add to the fact that the computers have a vastly larger and more diverse library of games not just on cart but disk as well, and there are modern disk drive alternatives so you don't need to fuss with those either.

Greg2600
06-10-2015, 08:29 AM
I agree XL line is much more playable. Collecting wise no way, the games are much harder to find than 5200, more $, and often crappy label art. Much of the 5200 library has been converted to XL by now though. I went all in on 5200 several years ago, have it composite modded, controllers "repaired", trackball, and many games as well as the atari max flash. Don't want to swap over now.

WCP
06-10-2015, 05:37 PM
Philips CD-i


Yeah.... This would be one of the easiest picks to go with. I mean, does the CD-I have any decent games ? Any must plays ? All I remember is Palm Springs Golf being kinda cool, seeing the demo running at a Good Guys! audio/video store in California.

I owned a CD-I for a very brief period of time, and tried playing a few games, but overall found the experience really subpar and unnecessary.


The other answer I'd give is the Sega Master System. I know it's kinda blasphemy to say that about such a beloved system, but the fact of the matter is that I have zero nostalgia towards the SMS. I never owned one back in the day, and hardly knew it even existed. I tried playing with one a few times, I was really curious about it, because it's one of the oldest systems that can output RGB natively, and I wanted to try it out just for that reason. Some of the games were pretty cool, but with it not having any nostalgia factor at all, I could easily live without it.

CD-I is the easy answer though.



32X would be a good answer too, but Virtua Racing Deluxe is freaking awesome....

Kwyjibo
06-10-2015, 08:10 PM
Definitely anything pre-NES. I have no desire to play Atari-era games, even though they were the first games I owned.

TheBenenator
06-11-2015, 10:19 AM
NES, for the most part. There are games for it I like, like Mega Man and Metroid, or to an extent Super Mario Bros., but I can play those on other, later consoles (Mega Man Anniversary, the unlockable in Metroid Prime and Metroid: Zero Mission, Super Mario All Stars or the GBC Super Mario Bros.) without having the controller digging into my hands or my eyes or having to give the game a bj before it'll work.

Yes, I know about the dogbone controllers, and about disabling the lockout/fixing the 72-pin connector; they somewhat make me reconsidering it for some games, but just not enough to hunt an NES down.

I rarely hook up my Sears Video Arcade II (US version of Atari 2800) these days, but I will not part with it. Vinyl-dyed it red except for the middle section where the cartridge slot and buttons are -- it's striking. :D Plus, I get nostalgic playing Solaris and Frogger. Still . . . I feel no need or desire to collect any more games for it. I don't even have paddle controllers for the game or two I have that requires them!

I have a Gameboy Color, and I enjoy some games on it, but I never play them on it anymore. I've been spoiled by emulation and backlighting on my PSP. ;)

Also, I'm not sure I really have the right to judge the Nintendo 64 harshly, having only played Pokemon Stadium on it with friends at college, but it really doesn't appeal to me. I will say that I didn't like the controller (for the usual reasons) and that the games on it I know about and am interested in were ported or remade on later systems. Heck, I have the Zelda Collector's disc for Gamecube, can get Paper Mario on Virutal Console if I'm so inclined, and whenever I finally get a 3DS I'll get Mario and Starfox. Best to say that I don't think I'd be sad to never play the N64 again, but definitely am glad it existed.

wizardofwor1975
06-11-2015, 11:40 PM
I'm a big proponent of going with the Atari 800XL or similar 8-bit computer instead of the 5200. A good chunk of the library is exactly the same and the games play the same (the 5200 is basically an 800 computer at heart) and you can use normal joysticks so no headaches with the 5200 controllers and add to the fact that the computers have a vastly larger and more diverse library of games not just on cart but disk as well, and there are modern disk drive alternatives so you don't need to fuss with those either.

I've been debating on whether or not to get an A8 or an XEGS for about a year now. I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. I really like the A8's ports of Archon, Realm of Impossibility, and Orc Attack. The A8's version of Spyhunter IMO is probably the best of any of the 8 bit computers. Spyhunter on the A8 is even better than my beloved C64. I really think the A8 would be a nice addition to my vintage computer collection. BTW, out of curiosity does the A8 have a comparable version of the C64's SD2IEC ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSO8YaT4OhE

Gamevet
06-11-2015, 11:53 PM
The Gameboy Color. I don't know if the original Gameboy had a screen that was easier to see, but the GBC was a real pain in the neck to try viewing while playing games. I had my GBC for about 6 months and sold it, after many a frustrating hour trying to see the games I was playing on it. I even had a knock-off of the light boy, and found it to be almost useless.

Aussie2B
06-12-2015, 12:10 AM
I don't know if the original Gameboy had a screen that was easier to see

Lemme put it this way, after playing an original Game Boy, the GBC looks crystal clear, haha.

TheBenenator
06-12-2015, 08:41 AM
The Gameboy Color. I don't know if the original Gameboy had a screen that was easier to see, but the GBC was a real pain in the neck to try viewing while playing games. I had my GBC for about 6 months and sold it, after many a frustrating hour trying to see the games I was playing on it. I even had a knock-off of the light boy, and found it to be almost useless.

Try tracking down a Gameboy Advance SP, model AGS-101. It has a backlit screen (like the DS Lite) and plays GB/GBC/GBA games, but is annoyingly pricey if the seller knows what xe has...somewhere around US$60-$95, depending on where you get it.

Gamevet
06-13-2015, 09:48 PM
Try tracking down a Gameboy Advance SP, model AGS-101. It has a backlit screen (like the DS Lite) and plays GB/GBC/GBA games, but is annoyingly pricey if the seller knows what xe has...somewhere around US$60-$95, depending on where you get it.

I've had my GBA SP for a really long time. Yes, I have played Gameboy games on it.

I just think that the screen on the Gameboy Color sucked ass!

otaku
06-18-2015, 07:28 PM
I will happily replay any of the consoles I've played even the Jaguar although for this topics purpose it is the one I can do without. I regret selling my N64 now that they go for 45-85 bucks in my area. That said most of the games I recall fondly are available on new platforms and often improved upon

Atarileaf
06-19-2015, 06:53 AM
BTW, out of curiosity does the A8 have a comparable version of the C64's SD2IEC ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSO8YaT4OhE

sorry for the slow reply but yes there is the sio2pc and the atarimax carts, which I'm considering purchasing soon

http://www.atarimax.com/

Atarileaf
06-19-2015, 06:56 AM
Try tracking down a Gameboy Advance SP, model AGS-101. It has a backlit screen

Very true, I can see those wanting the original gameboy or gbc's for collecting purposes but to actually PLAY gameboy or gameboy color games you're better off with a GBA SP or the gamecubes gameboy player. I can't imagine ever wanting to play an original gameboy today unless you are REALLY nostalgic for it.

stlgamer75
07-09-2016, 12:16 PM
I have a few of these systems in my collection that I own more for curiosity sake. Actually playing them are not high on my list.

Arcadia 2001 - just a poor man's 2600
3DO - nothing compelling me to plug in and play
Atari 5200 - same games are better on my 7800
PS1 & N64 - maybe someday again but I prefer the Saturn from this era. Most of the PS1 games I own are sports titles I bought at the time to play with my college friends and have no value in 2016. N64 was purchased solely for Mario 64 and Ocarina.

Niku-Sama
07-09-2016, 07:53 PM
Any game boy or gba system.
Having both game boy player and super game boy it's like why bother. I don't play portable games like i used to and i find it a pain in the ass to haul them around.

I don't like hauling my phone along either

Steve W
07-10-2016, 04:58 AM
The Philips CD-i I could do without. I have a few of the (allegedly) top games for the machine but they aren't worth hooking it up again for. The 3DO is another one I wouldn't be bothered if I never played it again. I've got a few games for it, but none really do anything for me.

I can do without playing a Nintendo console and/or handheld ever again, with the exception of the GameCube. I've never cared for Nintendo (their business practices in the '80s put me off them) but I did have a GameCube and it had a few games I liked, the Phantasy Star Online series being the primary ones. I'd rather slam my testicles in a car door than play an N64 again.

The Neo Geo Pocket Color is another one that I never really took a liking to. I never cared for the D-pad at all, and none of the games really sparked with me.

The Sega Master System was a total dud for me. I had wanted to get one for the longest time, and when I finally got one in the late '90s I found that all the games I tried were dull as dishwater. I've bought multiple games since that are allegedly better than the fourteen or fifteen that I got with the system, but I can't muster the drive to ever hook it up again.

I have a few machines that I've never bothered to even hook up to see if they work - the Action Max, the ViewMaster Interactivision, the Memorex VIS... I know they wouldn't be worth the effort of setting up just to play it for a few minutes and then toss in a box in a closet and never look at again.

Aussie2B
07-10-2016, 01:16 PM
This topic still makes me kinda sad, with the way people are completely writing off entire systems/libraries, when practically every system in existence has some excellent games in its library. When most have libraries with at least dozens of games, if not hundreds, you'd have to have VERY specific tastes to not find anything that appeals to you. But with most of these posts, it seems more like a case of sweeping generalizations made from a result of very limited experience, which to me is very much not in the spirit of this board.

stlgamer75
07-10-2016, 01:52 PM
This topic still makes me kinda sad, with the way people are completely writing off entire systems/libraries, when practically every system in existence has some excellent games in its library. When most have libraries with at least dozens of games, if not hundreds, you'd have to have VERY specific tastes to not find anything that appeals to you. But with most of these posts, it seems more like a case of sweeping generalizations made from a result of very limited experience, which to me is very much not in the spirit of this board.

I think the point for those of us saying we would be ok not playing a certain system again is, with the number of consoles out there in existence and the limited time we may have to play them, some simply won't get the deep dive attention they may deserve in order to find the hidden gem in the console's library. And we have accepted that and are ok with it. I admit I have a very limited experience with the 3DO and at this point, I've accepted that and come to terms with it.

Steve W
07-10-2016, 11:31 PM
This topic still makes me kinda sad, with the way people are completely writing off entire systems/libraries, when practically every system in existence has some excellent games in its library. When most have libraries with at least dozens of games, if not hundreds, you'd have to have VERY specific tastes to not find anything that appeals to you. But with most of these posts, it seems more like a case of sweeping generalizations made from a result of very limited experience, which to me is very much not in the spirit of this board.

I agree to a point, but in my defense I also have biases and discriminations that I've developed over a lifetime of vidja game nerdery that I can't get past (like the N64's horrific controller making that system dead to me). I do have strange and obscure systems that I love that nobody else does, and I'll be able to find at least one good game on most consoles. On the GameWave, it's Letter Zap. On the Gizmondo, it's Sticky Balls. On the Xavix GamePort, it's Bowling. For the Nuon, it's Tempest 3000. Most machines have at least one title that makes the system worth owning (although I have yet to figure out which game makes the RCA Studio II deserving of existence). Either I haven't found a particular system's "killer app", or I have and found it underwhelming for whatever reason.

When it comes to games, it all comes down to personal taste. And some systems just don't have anything that suit my taste, like the Memorex VIS. Or in the case of the Philips CD-i, it's a system that was not really designed for action games but was channeled into that space in an attempt to keep the machine alive in the marketplace. So it only has a small percentage of titles in its library that qualify as games, and even fewer that suit my tastes. I also don't have the MPEG card or some of the better rated games for it, so as it is now, there's no drive to ever play it again. Nothing against the system, it's just my own needs aren't being met with the games I have for it.

When it comes to dismissing a company's output like Nintendo, it's my own dislike at how they conducted themselves in the US market. Fake chip shortages to price gouge American consumers, bullying companies to drop Atari and Sega systems, their draconian policies towards developers... I developed a prejudice against them, stopped buying games for the NES, and supported all of their competitors. It was about the time of the GameCube that I had mellowed and decided to forgive them and start buying their games again.

ncman071
07-11-2016, 12:13 PM
i wouldsay the jaguar...i had that system along with the jag cd for a while...but i miss avp, doom, and tempest 2k.

however i can deal without ever owning the cd attachment ever again.


also there is very little on the 3do that interests me any more....it used to be ssf2t...but several great versions of that game exist now


also the atari lynx...dont care about that one

rmaerz
07-11-2016, 02:23 PM
Odyssey 2 - blockier than blocky

FINALLY - my 100th POST!!!

jammajup
12-31-2016, 02:37 PM
Sam Coupe' and Aquarius...nuth said

Tanooki
12-31-2016, 06:22 PM
I guess I haven't used the right turd yet, but in like 30 years of it I've yet to bump into a console I thought was so awful I'd never want to touch it again, even the failures...yes even WiiU even if I sold it in disgust. Mind you some I wouldn't actually pay much of any for, but if I bumped into it to play or buy stupid cheap in some cases yeah.

I've had ever single Nintendo console including all their base handhelds and the virtual boy. I've had ever Sega system and handheld, Sony system and handheld, and a Turbo Duo. I've had the NGPC and have my MVS now. I've had a Fairchild Channel F I inherited from mom years ago (wish my dolt father hadn't thrown it out after I moved without any warning or I'd have paid to ship it.) I've used/had a 2600 and access to the 7800 too. I've used a Jaguar and 5200 (which not busted sticks.) Vectrex a neighbor had too when I was a little kid.

The only thing close I suppose would be stuff I was forced to use at work in the day (the xbox) as it sucks. The 360 I could care less about but I'd use it with friends, and I have done that with the One. I've used a 3DO before in various stores in the day and it was nice, just not for that price. Never had the system but used a very accurate emulator and played much of the library and like it -- Colecovision.

I've never bothered with any of the other late 70s/early 80s turd boxes pre-NES(or Famicom) people dump on or the Intellivision either. Anything I've at least touched I'd desire to use or even own in some cases again if the games were there and the mood suited me. I guess I'm unique in that nothing made me hate it enough to just want to burn it from my existence.

ReaXan
04-04-2019, 04:19 AM
Interested to see if the release of the psone classic changes peoples minds about the 32 bit era comments in this thread.

peeingas
04-07-2021, 08:35 PM
Heh, so you don't feel ganged up on, Dreamcast is definitely high up there for me in terms of this question. I'll never understand how so many retro gamers put it on such a high pedestal as if it's one of the best systems ever made and objectively awesome. What the heck are they playing on it? Because mine is one of the most unplayed systems I own. I have the Video Game Collector issue with the photo checklist for the system, so I've looked through the whole US library. So much of it is shovelware and licensed junk like the PlayStation was getting, and of the notable games, most I feel pretty "meh" about.

I think Dreamcast fans need to accept that it doesn't represent all genres very well. I mean, I love the N64 and can't understand why some people would mention it in a topic like this, but, at the same time, I know that the lack of some genres keeps some people from enjoying it. Actually, it's a good comparison because the Dreamcast and N64 are opposite in some ways, like how the N64 lacks in (decent) fighters and shmups, but the Dreamcast has a fair number (although you have to import for plenty of them). Me, I love platformers and RPGs most of all genres, and the Dreamcast just sucks for those. The Sonic Adventure games are good, but definitely not great (and plenty of their content isn't so much platforming but stupid shit like tediously scavenger hunting for emeralds for 15 freakin' minutes while awful hip hop is playing in the background), and beyond those, there's practically nothing worthwhile for a platformer fan. For RPGs, you got Skies of Arcadia and Grandia 2, and that's basically it. That's assuming you even enjoy those in the first place.

Granted, I still want to dig into the library more, but I don't see anything ever significantly changing my opinion of the Dreamcast or making me play it much more often than I do now.

I am replying to this post even if it is an old post.
I think the Dreamcast has sort of a "reverse E.T." thing going. You know how everyone says E.T. for the 2600 sucks and they hate it and it's the worst game ever, even though they've never played it or even seen an Atari 2600? Well, The Dreamcast is sort of the reverse of that. Everyone says it's great and they love it and it's the best system ever even though they've never played it or even seen one. At least on the internet. In real life, no one even knows what a Dreamcast is.

Slate
04-10-2021, 12:56 PM
Sega 32x, due to its reliability issues and lack of games that interest me. The only game on it that I played and which I still like is Space Harrier (it's a great port of the Arcade Version, or so I read.) Even Space Harrier isn't an exclusive, but it's the only 32x game I look back on fondly. I never played Kolibri, though, which I wanted to try at the time (2003 - 2005.)

Steve W
04-10-2021, 10:30 PM
I could never get the 32X to be stable. I used the metal tabs on the inside of the cartridge slot, and without. I used it with a Model 1 and a Model 2, and there was no difference. The 32X was just fundamentally unstable. It would just freeze or glitch if the 32X had a strong breeze hit it. I always liked T-Mek and Shadow Squadron, but it was just too much trouble to keep running. With emulation it's far easier to play 32X games and letting me play games I couldn't play before (like Darxide) and find the gems in the library, although I still can't give a damn about Metal Head.