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Perkar
09-27-2004, 06:40 PM
taken from www.gcadvanced.com

BREAKING: Sony has released the PSP's official price point. Details within.

Sony, Nintendo's soon-to-be handheld gaming rival, has officially released the price point of their debut into the handheld industry, the PlayStation Portable. Mentioned at the Tokyo Game Show and confirmed by GameSpot, Sony has officially announced a price of $349.99 for the handheld.

This announcement confirms many previous guesses that the PlayStation Portable would be at least $300 at launch, and more than double the price of the Nintendo DS. No software has yet been announced to launch alongside the system, but the price is likely to have been influenced by the MP3 player and DVD player functionality of the portable system.

More as it breaks.

Ed Oscuro
09-27-2004, 06:45 PM
GOOD LORD!

That's...well...hey, I'll be getting an original PS2 when the demand/price on those goes down some, 'cuz I've already got the HDD. x_x

Querjek
09-27-2004, 06:47 PM
Yeah, I just saw that... bad move on Sony's part to announce this now methinks. . . we all know the DS is cooler anyways.

Lemmy Kilmister
09-27-2004, 06:47 PM
O_O The site had a link to gamespot which said it was bogus.

see here- http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/09/25/news_6108839.html

davidleeroth
09-27-2004, 07:08 PM
These kids say it's true:

http://www.n-philes.com/index.php?Id=301

Gotta love the net. :) Personally I wouldn't be too surprised to see it launch at that price.

GameNinja
09-27-2004, 07:19 PM
I think it is sad when the portable is more expensive then the console when it was first released. :(

Tank
09-27-2004, 07:22 PM
Good Lord!

Well...if this is true, we know who still dominates the handheld market LOL

Duncan
09-27-2004, 07:27 PM
Good Lord!

Well...if this is true, we know who still dominates the handheld market LOL

I wonder how much development support Sony is going to maintain after this? No way I'd ever pay over $200 for a portable system, and most people comparing Nintendo's $150 DS to the $350 PSP are gonna agree.

MegaDrive20XX
09-27-2004, 07:29 PM
good LORD is right... @_@

Aussie2B
09-27-2004, 07:31 PM
Good Lord!

Well...if this is true, we know who still dominates the handheld market LOL

You know, I really wonder... I'm starting to think that Sony could price their hardware at $1000 and people would STILL buy it, just because it's the PlayStation. I mean, GameCube was what, 80 bucks cheaper (maybe more at some point?) than the PS2 for a good long time, and people STILL couldn't care less about the GameCube and forked over the extra cash for a PS2.

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 07:33 PM
First, citing Nintendo-fanboi websites as credible sources for Sony news is like expecting Fox News Channel to give you "fair and balanced" reporting on John Kerry's campaign.

Second, the first site mentioned in the first post (gcadvanced.com) calls it an "unofficial" price point. gcadvanced.com is ADMITTING it's full of shit.

I realize 90% of this forum cannot wait to bury Sony, but until SCEA makes an official announcement regarding the North American MSRP, the wake will have to wait.

-- Z.

Duncan
09-27-2004, 07:35 PM
A $299 MSRP for the PSP in North America won't surprise me at all. $349 in NA, however, quite unlikely.

And we all know, of course, that $300 is still way-too-f**king expensive. :eek 2:

NE146
09-27-2004, 07:38 PM
LOL Forget it.

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 07:39 PM
A $299 MSRP for the PSP in North America won't surprise me at all. $349 in NA, however, quite unlikely.

And we all know, of course, that $300 is still way-too-f**king expensive. :eek 2:

It will be interesting to see how Sony markets a handheld that costs twice as much as its home console. Then again, it'll be interesing to see how Nintendo markets a handheld that costs 50% more than its home console.

I cannot wait for the DS/PSP Wars to begin.

-- Z.

Duncan
09-27-2004, 07:41 PM
A $299 MSRP for the PSP in North America won't surprise me at all. $349 in NA, however, quite unlikely.

And we all know, of course, that $300 is still way-too-f**king expensive. :eek 2:

It will be interesting to see how Sony markets a handheld that costs twice as much as its home console. Then again, it'll be interesing to see how Nintendo markets a handheld that costs 50% more than its home console.

I cannot wait for the DS/PSP Wars to begin.

-- Z.

Same here. At least it'll be more fun than watching the N-Gage promptly drop like a rock, as predicted. :)

Duncan
09-27-2004, 07:41 PM
LOL Forget it.

Forget what?

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 07:46 PM
A $299 MSRP for the PSP in North America won't surprise me at all. $349 in NA, however, quite unlikely.

And we all know, of course, that $300 is still way-too-f**king expensive. :eek 2:

It will be interesting to see how Sony markets a handheld that costs twice as much as its home console. Then again, it'll be interesing to see how Nintendo markets a handheld that costs 50% more than its home console.

I cannot wait for the DS/PSP Wars to begin.

-- Z.

Same here. At least it'll be more fun than watching the N-Gage promptly drop like a rock, as predicted. :)

Heh! Exactly. :) The only joy anyone got of the N-Gage was www.sidetalking.com. Oh, and I'm sure the creepier fanbois enjoyed Nokia's 2003 E3 conference with the little girl lifting her shirt to show the N-Gage's price point written on her stomach. That's right up there with the Nintendojo fanboi talking to Shigeru Miyamoto in undecipherable "Japanese" as the most freakish moment in E3 history.

-- Z.

Jive3D
09-27-2004, 07:53 PM
if they release the psp at or over 300 duckets - some people will still buy it - those that want an mp3 player, movie player, game system. i just want a game system that's lots of fun and has plently of wifi capabilities. So far teh DS has my vote. Wipeout pure and Metal Geat Ac!d sure look pretty - but Wipeout fusion left a bad taste in my mouth for ANY chance of future wipeouts being good. I'll stick to the first 3 on PS1 and teh 64 version that you very much. As for MGS? Well Snake Eater is coming out and that will surely quench my thirst for that action, AC!D will be card based anyway, and that doesnt sound too hot.

So there I have it, justification to ignore the only 2 reasons that I currently have to buy a PSP, and then there is a hefty tag? I dunno dudes, I already have an Mp3 player, I dont need another one (yet)

the DS has the killer apps so far...

I too can not wait for these wars to begin...^_^

Jasoco
09-27-2004, 07:55 PM
The higher the price, the better a chance of it failing.

I hope it's really high.

jerkov
09-27-2004, 07:55 PM
Then again, it'll be interesing to see how Nintendo markets a handheld that costs 50% more than its home console.

Why? The GBA SP and Gamecube both retailed for a long time at $100. Now the SP has dropped to $80 (presumably to make way for the DS), but for awhile, the SP and GC were equals. One would logically assume that the DS would retail for a fair bit more than the SP, which was (at least in price) equal to the GC, so there's your $150 price point. I don't see how this would be difficult to market.

Plus, Nintendo's eventually going to bring out a new console anyway, which I'm sure will launch at more than $150.

Neonsolid
09-27-2004, 07:57 PM
Ami the only one who wants the DSto get trampled in the competition.

Duncan
09-27-2004, 07:58 PM
Plus, Nintendo's eventually going to bring out a new console anyway, which I'm sure will launch at more than $150.

Supposedly next summer. But I can't help thinking that Cube sales will suffer this holiday season, what with a revised PS2 and Halo 2 both guaranteeing sales for their respective systems. (Yeah, there's Metroid Prime 2, but I don't honestly see it as a console-mover kind of title.)

Duncan
09-27-2004, 07:59 PM
Ami the only one who wants the DSto get trampled in the competition.

Why? More competition = lower prices (eventually) and more innovation.

Any particular reason for your judgment?

Neonsolid
09-27-2004, 08:00 PM
I want nintendo to get some sense knocked into them.

GaijinPunch
09-27-2004, 08:01 PM
The games are crap as well. Of the 15 or so on display at the TGS, not one of them made me want to pull my pants down, and only 2-3 would probably be "worth picking up".

hydr0x
09-27-2004, 08:04 PM
nintendojo.com is also posting this and they are usually quite reliable (way from a really neutral news source, but not total fanboy crap) and they state Sony people mentioned this price tag at TGS

well, we'll see, but if it's anywhere near 350 that thing is going to fail, the mp3 market expansion possibilities are not as big as those of the dvd market when the ps2 was launched...

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 08:09 PM
Then again, it'll be interesing to see how Nintendo markets a handheld that costs 50% more than its home console.

Why? The GBA SP and Gamecube both retailed for a long time at $100. Now the SP has dropped to $80 (presumably to make way for the DS), but for awhile, the SP and GC were equals. One would logically assume that the DS would retail for a fair bit more than the SP, which was (at least in price) equal to the GC, so there's your $150 price point. I don't see how this would be difficult to market.

Plus, Nintendo's eventually going to bring out a new console anyway, which I'm sure will launch at more than $150.

The GC hit $100 before its time, a semi-desperate act that almost kind of worked for a while, although the Xbox is now a very solid second in North America. It wasn't supposed to be evenly priced with the GBA so soon.

There's no question it will be somewhat of a challenge for Nintendo to market a $149 handheld when it already has available an $80 handheld and $100 home console. It'll most likely position the GBA as the kiddie portable and the DS as the grown-up portable, which could very well work.

As for Nintendo's next console, who knows when we'll see it and what it'll launch at, and why do you think it'll have any effect on the DS/PSP Wars? Nintendo has already proven it can take a drubbing in the console market and still thrive in the portable world. (Sony might prove the opposite.)

-- Z.

Wavelflack
09-27-2004, 08:11 PM
"is like expecting Fox News Channel to give you "fair and balanced" reporting on John Kerry's campaign."

You mean it's a reasonable expectation that is fulfilled? Interesting.

A more apt (though inverted) analogy would be along the lines of Sony continually making embarrassing and contradictory statements, and the Nintendo sites reporting them verbatim...

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 08:14 PM
nintendojo.com is also posting this and they are usually quite reliable (way from a really neutral news source, but not total fanboy crap) and they state Sony people mentioned this price tag at TGS

well, we'll see, but if it's anywhere near 350 that thing is going to fail, the mp3 market expansion possibilities are not as big as those of the dvd market when the ps2 was launched...

Nintendojo is TOTAL fanboi crap, the website responsible for the aforementioned Most Uncomfortable E3 Moment Ever.

And "Sony people" at TGS aren't Sony Computer Entertainment America people. And $350 could be the U.S. equivalent of the Japanese price point. And, and, and.

We all know the PSP will launch for a tidy sum, but a $349 price point in the U.S. will never, ever happen. I'll issue my $1000 Fanboi Challenge to anyone who disagrees.

-- Z.

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 08:15 PM
"is like expecting Fox News Channel to give you "fair and balanced" reporting on John Kerry's campaign."

You mean it's a reasonable expectation that is fulfilled? Interesting.

A more apt (though inverted) analogy would be along the lines of Sony continually making embarrassing and contradictory statements, and the Nintendo sites reporting them verbatim...

I was wondering when the first Dittohead would be drawn out of the woodwork by my aside. A Republican AND a Nintendo fanboi? What a lovely combo!

-- Z.

Wavelflack
09-27-2004, 08:16 PM
Heh heh.

When you make silly comments, you should always expect someone to correct your errors for you. I'm just being a friend!

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 08:18 PM
Heh heh.

When you make silly comments, you should always expect someone to correct your errors for you. I'm just being a friend!

No friend of Duh-bya is a friend of mine.

-- Z.

Wavelflack
09-27-2004, 08:19 PM
That's no way to speak to a friend!

--W.

zmweasel
09-27-2004, 08:22 PM
That's no way to speak to a friend!

--W.

Surely one of those rabid OxyContin-addicted talk-radio hosts to which you listen has some kind of snappy comeback you can pilfer, 'cause your current attempts ain't getting the job done.

-- Z.

Jasoco
09-27-2004, 08:27 PM
Hezus Christ! What the hell happened to this thread? THIS ISN'T THE POLITICS ROOM!

This thread is lost. Lock it.

My parents say I'm a Republican. But I didn't choose that title. So this year I'm voting for Perot. Screw Kerry and Bush.

Nez
09-27-2004, 08:27 PM
Anywho I'd say this price point is a bit high even for this overtly high teck POS. 300 dollars is what I'm betting on.

Jasoco
09-27-2004, 08:32 PM
I'd say the PSP is just a stupid Tech demo that will join the Beta VCR and various other Sony failures in electronics hell.

GaijinPunch
09-27-2004, 08:37 PM
You guys are forgetting how cocky Sony is. The PS2 retailed for 40,000 yen in Japan, mainly b/c of the DVD stuff. Who gives a fuck about an MP3 player? You can get those for $100. When the PS2 came out, DVD console players were still $250+... at least in Japan they were.

I can see a $300-$350 price tag.

Duncan
09-27-2004, 08:50 PM
I can see a $300-$350 price tag.

So can I -- but I don't see people in the States buying it. :roll:

GaijinPunch
09-27-2004, 09:12 PM
So can I -- but I don't see people in the States buying it. :roll:

Touche'

badinsults
09-27-2004, 09:15 PM
Apparently the site that perpetuated this rumor was a site called SPOnG (http://spong.com/detail/news.asp?mode=news&type=n&cid=&pid=&vid=&prid=7682&n=PSP+pricing+emerges!)



(I wasn't able to see the actual page, as it is freaking slow)

Anyways, I think it would be marketing genocide to introduce the PSP at $300. Look how badly the Saturn failed at that price. It is a silly rumor, possibly put out to make the $200 that I expect them to price it at look good.

Duncan
09-27-2004, 09:19 PM
Anyways, I think it would be marketing genocide to introduce the PSP at $300. Look how badly the Saturn failed at that price. It is a silly rumor, possibly put out to make the $200 that I expect them to price it at look good.

You forget that when the Saturn arrived, the Genesis (a much cheaper system) was still quite popular and that the original PlayStation was kicking Sega's ass in the marketing department.

Your idea about the shady rumor, though, might not be far from the truth. I suspect that Sony would be losing money on each unit at $200, though.

Wavelflack
09-27-2004, 09:25 PM
That's no way to speak to a friend!

--W.

Surely one of those rabid OxyContin-addicted talk-radio hosts to which you listen has some kind of snappy comeback you can pilfer, 'cause your current attempts ain't getting the job done.

-- Z.

I didn't mean to upset you. Gosh.

-- W.

max 330 mega
09-27-2004, 09:26 PM
im gonna be the asshole on this one, and say screw sony, $350 for a piece of shit that wil just break in 4 months, that has capabilities i will never use, call me old fashion but i still enjoy cd's and records so you wont catch me downloading mp3's anytime soon. this thing will have to drop to $150 before i would even give it a thought of a purchase, they will just end up revising the style of it to make it better a year into production anyway. sony took the console market from nintendo , and damn it they are not taking the handheld market too. :angry:

Neonsolid
09-27-2004, 09:28 PM
Gone.

pixelsnpolygons
09-27-2004, 09:33 PM
I didn't read far enough to see if that was true or not but HOLY SHIT if it is. That is fucking crazy.

Griking
09-27-2004, 09:33 PM
That's no way to speak to a friend!

--W.


What exactly IS that picture in your avatar anyway?

Ed Oscuro
09-27-2004, 09:42 PM
Don't touch it! It's pure concentrated evil![/timebandits]

Wavelflack
09-27-2004, 09:43 PM
That's Moose threatening Reggie! Of course!

The balloon says "How would like to kiss this, lover boy?"

Of course, I changed his fist into another appendage. I was lazy about it, so I never deleted his arm. It's sort of an amalgamation of sorts. A "peckarm", perhaps.

Anyway, it's one of a series of modified Archie comics that I created many years ago--before anyone else was doing it, BTW. Some very old-time DP ('98-'99) members may remember them, as I eventually put them on the internet and advertised them in a signature link.

NE146
09-27-2004, 09:52 PM
I was wondering when the first Dittohead would be drawn out of the woodwork by my aside. A Republican AND a Nintendo fanboi? What a lovely combo!

-- Z.

I'm Republican and I absolutely LOVE Nintendo... that count? :D

'Course I like my ps2/Xbox just as much as well... but hey :P The trio and the game selection it gives make them the best of friends 8-)

Wavelflack
09-27-2004, 09:58 PM
Shh! Don't scare him off!

I'm waiting for him to finish my profile for me! It's almost endearing, seeing adoration give rise to speculation and (of course) emulation.

Don't spoil the fun!

SoulBlazer
09-27-2004, 10:03 PM
I have to agree $350 is not only just about impossible but would be suicide.

$300 is what I expect. It's STILL too expensive for me to buy at that point, and I think Sony would be smarter to sell at $250, but at least it would sell allright at $300. This IS Sony we're talking about here, people. :)

lendelin
09-27-2004, 10:19 PM
Guys, don't fall for rumors.

$350 would be suicide because it wouldn't move the system and spells doom from the getgo. Sony is smarter than that. Of course DS "fans" would love to see this price point, but don't fall for anti-Sony hype.

Realistically, expect a price around $250, that is $100 more than the competitor.

max 330 mega
09-27-2004, 10:46 PM
Sony please send down thunder on all nintendo fanboys.
i am not a nintendo fan boy, if im a fan boy of anything, it would be SNK. i just dont see why , a new system , that many expect to have problems right from the get go (cd drives breaking etc.) , will be atleast 100 dollars over the tried and true nintendo handheld, and has a shitty game line up is so appealing to people. if i had it my way, the two main competitors in handheld game would be the newest atari lynx and neogeo pocket, so dont try and say im kissing nintendo's ass. im just pointing out that there seems to be alot of red flags in my mind, as to why this thing isnt very appealing. :hmm:

jonjandran
09-27-2004, 10:56 PM
Sony please send down thunder on all nintendo fanboys.
i am not a nintendo fan boy, if im a fan boy of anything, it would be SNK. i just dont see why , a new system , that many expect to have problems right from the get go (cd drives breaking etc.) , will be atleast 100 dollars over the tried and true nintendo handheld, and has a shitty game line up is so appealing to people. if i had it my way, the two main competitors in handheld game would be the newest atari lynx and neogeo pocket, so dont try and say im kissing nintendo's ass. im just pointing out that there seems to be alot of red flags in my mind, as to why this thing isnt very appealing. :hmm:

Since when is the DS a "tried and true handheld" ?

RCM
09-27-2004, 11:01 PM
Gotta love the net. Personally I wouldn't be too surprised to see it launch at that price.

I wouldn't be surprised either. Don't be surprised if it sells for less too.


First, citing Nintendo-fanboi websites as credible sources for Sony news is like expecting Fox News Channel to give you "fair and balanced" reporting on John Kerry's campaign.

Second, the first site mentioned in the first post (gcadvanced.com) calls it an "unofficial" price point. gcadvanced.com is ADMITTING it's full of shit.

I realize 90% of this forum cannot wait to bury Sony, but until SCEA makes an official announcement regarding the North American MSRP, the wake will have to wait.

I agree. Any website dedicated to one particular console or company is a bit more biased then the average multiconsole site. Don't trust em!

Admitting that the price point is "unofficial" is giving them an out. They may have indeed heard that it will retail for $349.99. If they are bullshitting, which is very possible, they won't look like total assholes. I wouldn't say they are admitting they are "full of shit" though. A lot of other mags and sites have reported unofficial info too.

I find it funny that people are getting excited that a system may retail on the high side of the rumored price. Come on people! You should all be angry if this is true, not happy. I'm not so thrilled about either system (DS, PSP) at this point. If Sony fails it will affect more then just Sony. Before yall jump on me, I know not everyone is happy about the news, but generally people hate Sony for all the wrong reasons. Carry on

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

Neonsolid
09-27-2004, 11:04 PM
Gone.

LiquidX01
09-27-2004, 11:10 PM
Sony would have to be fools to launch a handheld at $350. Im willing to say $300 on it but even that price is high. Do I think Sony will really launch a new handheld at $300 with their established competitor at a slim $150? NO!! Sony knows that people wont spend that much on a handheld, let alone a new one for that matter. ;)

classicb
09-27-2004, 11:18 PM
I can't wait for the PSP but that's just me. If it does come out for $350 I'll have to pass as many people looking forward to the PSP probably would and Sony knows that. This price point is totaly bogus or Sony just shooting themselves in the foot. I have no intrest in the DS or two screens for that matter but if the price difference is this big I might have to reconsider which one I get first.

It could be Nintendo is pulling an ESPN NFL 2K5 on Sony.

Daniel Thomas
09-27-2004, 11:27 PM
Plus, Nintendo's eventually going to bring out a new console anyway, which I'm sure will launch at more than $150.

Supposedly next summer. But I can't help thinking that Cube sales will suffer this holiday season, what with a revised PS2 and Halo 2 both guaranteeing sales for their respective systems. (Yeah, there's Metroid Prime 2, but I don't honestly see it as a console-mover kind of title.)

Well, I don't know about that. I don't own any of the consoles, but if I had the time, the money, and a TV, I'd grab a GC. It's cheap and there are a number of great titles.

And I don't buy that PSP price point for a damned second. Spare me. Sony didn't get to where it is today by being stupid. They know that they need to get their price down as low as possible if they have a chance to capture the portable market. I expect them to take a real loss on the hardware to make PSP competitive.

My guess right now? $250 or less.

NintendoMan
09-27-2004, 11:29 PM
Good Lord!

Well...if this is true, we know who still dominates the handheld market LOL

You know, I really wonder... I'm starting to think that Sony could price their hardware at $1000 and people would STILL buy it, just because it's the PlayStation. I mean, GameCube was what, 80 bucks cheaper (maybe more at some point?) than the PS2 for a good long time, and people STILL couldn't care less about the GameCube and forked over the extra cash for a PS2.

Well I always compare this to what your saying. There is about 20-30 of my friends, or people I know, that all own PS2's. But do ya know what, I guarantee that EVERY SINGLE one of them are NOT going to even think about buying a PSP. They are all into just like Madden's, Street's, Baseball. I can't get any of them to play anything else. (Idiots)

But anyways, these are the reasons why sony is on top of the console market right now, too many people, like one of my friends who definately can't afford gaming right now, went out and bought a new PS2 just so he can play NBA Live's. I mean whatever if that's all he wants to play, but sony just sold one system right there just so my buddy can play one type of games.

I am just saying that SONY pretty much OWNS ALL casual gamers. But these casual gamers could honestly really give a shit about the PSP. There not hardcore gamers like us.

This is one of the reason's why Nintendo will still at least rain in the handheld arena. The day will come when there ahead in the console market too.
But who knows if this price is true, which is probably isn't. But for $350, there is no way in hell it's going to sell. Not enough people want to pay that much for handhelds, much less home consoles.

Algol
09-27-2004, 11:32 PM
There's no way the PSP could be $350. I would say it would have to be no more than $250 if it has any chance of doing well, and even that is awfully pricey for a handheld.

vincewy
09-27-2004, 11:35 PM
Also remember this is not the boom near 2000 when people were shelling out $1000 for a PS2, economy is sluggish, even if people want it, they can't afford them.

NintendoMan
09-27-2004, 11:37 PM
I'd say the PSP is just a stupid Tech demo that will join the Beta VCR and various other Sony failures in electronics hell.

You speak the truth! :rocker:

tholly
09-27-2004, 11:46 PM
well, i am getting the DS as an xmas gift and the PSP was a possibility, but with a price like that, chances are i will just have to wait a week or two until people realize that price is crazy, no one buys it, and the price drops a lot

after a few price drops i will be getting one of those, and, until then, i will be nice and happy with my DS

classicb
09-27-2004, 11:57 PM
I'd say the PSP is just a stupid Tech demo that will join the Beta VCR and various other Sony failures in electronics hell.

You speak the truth! :rocker:

LOL

RCM
09-27-2004, 11:59 PM
This is one of the reason's why Nintendo will still at least rain in the handheld arena. The day will come when there ahead in the console market too.

The day already did come. With every new generation since the NES Nintendo has lost ground in the home market to their competitors. Unless drastic changes go on at Nintendo I don't see them being ahead in the home market again...ever.

THE ONE, THE ONLY- RCM

Neonsolid
09-28-2004, 12:03 AM
Gone.

Neonsolid
09-28-2004, 12:03 AM
Gone.

zmweasel
09-28-2004, 12:12 AM
You guys are forgetting how cocky Sony is. The PS2 retailed for 40,000 yen in Japan, mainly b/c of the DVD stuff. Who gives a fuck about an MP3 player? You can get those for $100. When the PS2 came out, DVD console players were still $250+... at least in Japan they were.

I can see a $300-$350 price tag.

I'll bet you $1000 that the PSP doesn't launch for more than $300 in North America. PM me if you want to set it up (contract, third-party escrow, et cet).

-- Z.

zmweasel
09-28-2004, 12:15 AM
Anyways, I think it would be marketing genocide to introduce the PSP at $300. Look how badly the Saturn failed at that price. It is a silly rumor, possibly put out to make the $200 that I expect them to price it at look good.

You forget that when the Saturn arrived, the Genesis (a much cheaper system) was still quite popular and that the original PlayStation was kicking Sega's ass in the marketing department.

Your idea about the shady rumor, though, might not be far from the truth. I suspect that Sony would be losing money on each unit at $200, though.

The Saturn launched in North America at $399, not $299. One of the many many many things that doomed it.

-- Z.

zmweasel
09-28-2004, 12:22 AM
Sony please send down thunder on all nintendo fanboys.
i am not a nintendo fan boy, if im a fan boy of anything, it would be SNK. i just dont see why , a new system , that many expect to have problems right from the get go (cd drives breaking etc.) , will be atleast 100 dollars over the tried and true nintendo handheld, and has a shitty game line up is so appealing to people. if i had it my way, the two main competitors in handheld game would be the newest atari lynx and neogeo pocket, so dont try and say im kissing nintendo's ass. im just pointing out that there seems to be alot of red flags in my mind, as to why this thing isnt very appealing. :hmm:

"Shitty game line-up"? You can accuse the PSP of having too many portable iterations of established PS1/PS2 franchises, but those games certainly aren't shitty. Ape Escape, Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racer, Metal Gear Acid, Need for Speed Underground, and Bust-a-Move (to name a few) are not shitty.

Also, as pointed out elsewhere, the DS isn't tried-and-true. Perhaps you're referring to the GBA--but neither Sony nor Nintendo considers the GBA and the PSP to be competing with each other. Nintendo itself compared the GBA to the PS2 (?!) at its fanboi-filled E3 press conference.

-- Z.

classicb
09-28-2004, 12:24 AM
You guys are forgetting how cocky Sony is. The PS2 retailed for 40,000 yen in Japan, mainly b/c of the DVD stuff. Who gives a fuck about an MP3 player? You can get those for $100. When the PS2 came out, DVD console players were still $250+... at least in Japan they were.

I can see a $300-$350 price tag.

I'll bet you $1000 that the PSP doesn't launch for more than $300 in North America. PM me if you want to set it up (contract, third-party escrow, et cet).

-- Z.

I don't ge you. Just a few days ago you were fighting with someone about how the DS price point was so competitve because Sony would be up around $300. Know you're fighting with someone about the PSP being below $300. All you do is fight with people on these boards. Why?

Berserker
09-28-2004, 12:30 AM
I wasn't planning on buying the PSP, but if it's the price these fair and unbiased Nintendo Fansites are saying, then I'm really really really not going to buy it. That's 3X as much of the not-buying action as there was before people.

God, I hate Sony. So much. I just read so many bad things about them, they just seem like a bunch of unseemly folks, who might not brake for animals. I brake for animals. It just pisses me off. And they have all these games that appeal to a wide variety of people. Casual gamers... BLECH! I hate people. And I just can't see how someone could actually like Sony, who would probably hit your cat if it should be walking across the street, and Nintendo, who would probably give me a DS(or two!), if I should just ring their doorbell and ask. I don't know, they just seem like nice people, they'd probably give me a ride to work too. What was I saying? Oh yeah, how can some of these people like both companies at once? It just doesn't make any sense to me. It's almost like they don't care about company politics, or the flamewars between the fans of both sides, and they just want to play games, or something. How could anybody do that?

Neonsolid
09-28-2004, 12:32 AM
Gone.