Ebay Classic Gaming Blacklist

[megasdkirby]

Just pulled his ID information...wow, and over 10K feedbacks!

Shame that people would stoop so low. I hope he gets what he deserves.

[Kyle15]

Avoid this seller, please.

About two weeks ago, I won a Japanese Wii game from him for $2.25. After the auction ended, I payed immediately. A couple of days later, I get an email saying I was refunded.
Thinking he accidentally refunded me or something to that extent, I payed again and sent an email stating that I did so.

The next day, I had another refunded payment message from Paypal, and an unbelievable message from the seller himself. He stated that he wanted $60 for it and not $2.25.
In shock, I emailed him back saying that you cannot do that; avoiding payment because you did not get what you expected is not allowed.
After I sent that email, I noticed that the item's page had a banner for his other items. Can you guess what happened? The guy STARTED ANOTHER AUCTION for the SAME THING.
I contacted eBay, and they took it up with him and said that reattempting payment would be fine.

Fast-forward to today. I have not had a refund alert since I paid for the third time about a week ago. The seller did not respond to my emails either.
Since emailing was no longer an option, I decided to call him directly. Man, we had such a good conversation! Here's a recap:

-Me: I was wanting to know if you were going to follow through with the auction according to eBay's policies.
-Him: No, I wanted more than $2 for it. It cost more than that when I bought it.
-Me: You do know that it is against the rules to avoid payment and relist because you didn't get what you expected for the item?
-Him: Yeah, eBay told me. Besides, the consequences aren't that bad. I'll only get a strike or negative feedback from you.
-Me: What do you mean not that bad? You can risk a banning if your feedback score drops too low, or if eBay says your action was severe enough for an automatic ban.
-Him: What about the other buyer than just won my relisting? What do I do about them if I send the game to you?
-Me: What do you do? You own up to what you did. You're in the wrong for not honoring the auction and trying to sell to somebody else.
-Him: No, I can't do it. At least they won it for $30. I'm only 18 and living on my own. Every little bit I get helps.
-Me: So, I suppose you're just going to refund me again then?
-Him: Yes, that's what I'll do.
-Me: Okay, thanks for you time. Good bye.
-Him: Bye.

Now, please keep in mind that I was as nice as pie to this kid the entire time. I'm eighteen myself, but his story is ridiculous. How did he buy the game to begin with if he was so deep in money problems?
The game in question is not even half a year old, so he had to have bought it recently.

Long story short, this guy avoided payment because I did not win the game for what he wanted. He blatantly admitted that he does not care what the consequences are, as they "aren't that bad" according to him.

I left appropriate feedback, so hopefully that will keep others from falling victim to his immaturity problem with money and his games.
He could have put a reserve on it, but no. He took a chance with the auction, and got less than what was in mind. When you want a certain amount, that's what reserves are there for anyway.

You can't just leave somebody hanging like that. -__-

[Baloo]

Contact eBay and give them the conversation. That should ban his ass.

[NayusDante]

Some people are too cheap to pay a few cents for a reserve price on their listing. I'd like to assume that nobody lists things for less than they want for them, but that's wishful thinking.

[Kyle15]

Contact eBay and give them the conversation. That should ban his ass.

Ebay seems to care less. I called them up last week to warn them what he was up to, and they failed to withdraw his duplicate auction of what I had just won.
They even brought up his emails where he had said some of the same things he repeated to me on the phone today, and failed to really do anything.
It may require an extra call to customer service to find out, but I'm pretty sure they only gave him a strike.
My negative feedback I left just dropped him to 83.3%, but he probably doesn't even care.

I tell you, eBay is just getting too ridiculous to even bother with nowadays. :/

[megasdkirby]

Kyle15,

Did you report him for seller non performance? With the evidence you have, they will ban him quickly.

[Kyle15]

Kyle15,

Did you report him for seller non performance? With the evidence you have, they will ban him quickly.

Yup. I even had them look at the emails he sent through eBay. He got a strike.
Why they did not ban him, I'll never know. -__-

Anyway, I'll probably file another complaint with him. Hopefully they will do something then.

[Tupin]

Hm, you would think eBay's whole "no negative feedback can be left by sellers" and their general opinion that the buyer is always right would ban that seller pretty quickly.

I guess not.

Even if you don't want to pay for reserve, why not start it at like $20-$25 rather than the $0.99 I'm assuming the guy started the auction at? What, did he think there would be a bidding war over something 90% of American Wii owners can't even use?

[megasdkirby]

That's unfortunate to hear. :(

I hope they do something, though. Ebay has been changing for the worst lately. I have a claim and I've yet to win because they now extended it to 30 days. WTF? So I have been waiting for two months and still no item. Egad!

Stupid Ebay. :(

[Kyle15]

Hm, you would think eBay's whole "no negative feedback can be left by sellers" and their general opinion that the buyer is always right would ban that seller pretty quickly.

I guess not.

Even if you don't want to pay for reserve, why not start it at like $20-$25 rather than the $0.99 I'm assuming the guy started the auction at? What, did he think there would be a bidding war over something 90% of American Wii owners can't even use?

I just learned the buyer isn't that important from this latest fiasco. Ebay needs some fixing itself. ;)


That's unfortunate to hear. :(

I hope they do something, though. Ebay has been changing for the worst lately. I have a claim and I've yet to win because they now extended it to 30 days. WTF? So I have been waiting for two months and still no item. Egad!

Stupid Ebay. :(

Thanks, man. I hope your situation turns out okay too. :)

[Cornelius]

This isn't really anything new. About 6 months to a year ago essentially the same thing happened to me with a CIB copy of SMS Golden Axe Warrior that I won for about 10 shipped. Nothing happened after talking to eBay and filing a complaint, etc; and I wussed out and didn't even leave a neg for fear of retaliation. I'll be regretting that for a long time to come yet.

[ryborg]

Contact eBay and give them the conversation. That should ban his ass.


Did you report him for seller non performance? With the evidence you have, they will ban him quickly.


Hm, you would think eBay's whole "no negative feedback can be left by sellers" and their general opinion that the buyer is always right would ban that seller pretty quickly.

Why do people on this forum keep saying stuff like this? For the 11ty billionth time, ebay doesn't ban users for stuff like this. The WORST that will happen to the seller is that his search standing will drop to "lowered," which I've found doesn't affect sales at all.

Hell, you can be a scam artist caught selling obvious bootlegs and the punishment (if caught) will only be a slap on the hands. Ebay has given up on doing the right thing; all they care about is the bottom line.

[Kyle15]

Why do people on this forum keep saying stuff like this? For the 11ty billionth time, ebay doesn't ban users for stuff like this. The WORST that will happen to the seller is that his search standing will drop to "lowered," which I've found doesn't affect sales at all.

Hell, you can be a scam artist caught selling obvious bootlegs and the punishment (if caught) will only be a slap on the hands. Ebay has given up on doing the right thing; all they care about is the bottom line.

I have learned exactly that. Its a sad thing that they don't try to go very far anymore. :/

[ryborg]

I have learned exactly that. Its a sad thing that they don't try to go very far anymore. :/

Yeah, the disputes are all automated, too. If you call or email, it's like you're talking to a robot. They follow a strict script. If you have 100% obvious proof of wrongdoing, they don't care. It is very frustrating and it's gotten to the point where I expect it to happen a certain percentage of the time and consider it a write-off.

[Kyle15]

Yeah, the disputes are all automated, too. If you call or email, it's like you're talking to a robot. They follow a strict script. If you have 100% obvious proof of wrongdoing, they don't care. It is very frustrating and it's gotten to the point where I expect it to happen a certain percentage of the time and consider it a write-off.

The guy I talked to was pretty far from automatic. He was very unscripted, and didn't do that whole "repeat it again" deal that's always pulled.

Then again, the outcome looks to be pretty much the same no matter how automated the customer service representitive is. :/

[JSoup]

What amazes me is the number of people who are amazed at the number of scammers and asshats that are on eBay. They are there because they literally have a one in a million chance of something significant happening to them.

I have a 'friend' who pulls this kind of shit all the time. He makes more per week than I do in a month.

[japancollector]

knandor1 is on mij blockin bidder list

he buyed sometime ago a japan version of king fields 2.It was cleary listed as a japan import.Buyer didnt read the auction titel and it was listed as ntsc .When he recieve the item he mailed

Hi,
game not work, becouse is not pal. How we can resolve this problem?

i say the item was listed as japan version after this he opened claim .And he leaved negative feedback : did not work on my ps1, however I have asked before

Now the worst part comes and caused i have put on him mij blockin bidders list .the part however I have asked before is a lie .I know that japan games dont work on a pal playstation .And never inform buyers that you can use a japan playstation game on pal playstation console witchout Modification or boot cd.this is bad for my ebay reputation look i false inform buyers to sell more games

[ronclon]

Heres one any USA sellers might one to avoid. zxcd2007. His account is from Spain .He has his feedback marked private and of course since he probably only buys and doesn't sell in the usa he has no negatives but I would bet there is several comments from USA sellers in there saying the guy is a scammer.

About 50 days ago he buys up a lot of games that were in the $15-40 range. About two days ago he sends me a message saying that Rocket Knight Adventures had been smashed up(no way in hell, I loaded the package with packing material) and that Beggar Prince (which I bought from SuperFighter Team directly) was a bootleg. Of course he expected me to give him money.

I firmly believe he is buying stuff from USA sellers and then selling it overseas and trying to get his money back from the USA seller.

I simply put him on my blocked bidders list and didn't even bother answering. I just took the neg. To bad for him he only had 45 days to file a complaint.

[ryborg]

I firmly believe he is buying stuff from USA sellers and then selling it overseas and trying to get his money back from the USA seller.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewBidItems&userid=zxcd2007&completed=1&sort=3&all=1&rows=0

He sounds like someone to avoid, but I doubt he's a scammer, just a jerk who lives in a country with a horrible post office. If you check out the link above to his bidding history, you'll see that only 4/~100 items are from the US.

Of course he has no negs. He is a buyer only. I'll never understand why ebay allows any feedback to be private.

[ronclon]

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewBidItems&userid=zxcd2007&completed=1&sort=3&all=1&rows=0

He sounds like someone to avoid, but I doubt he's a scammer, just a jerk who lives in a country with a horrible post office. If you check out the link above to his bidding history, you'll see that only 4/~100 items are from the US.

Of course he has no negs. He is a buyer only. I'll never understand why ebay allows any feedback to be private.

I could buy that if he had just said a or a few games was damaged. But he tried to say a game (not surprisingly the most expensive one)I sold him was a pirated game. Also claimed I way overcharged him for shipping (The same shipping amount he agreed to before he bought anything).
I do apprecaite you putting that page up though because I am going to watch what happens when he leaves feedback for the USA sellers.


Edit- Now he is saying a pair of Sega 3D galsses were in bad condition as well. And he is spacing out his feedback to make it look like this is from several transactions.

[darkslime]

This guy did a chargeback last night for a copy of KOTOR I sold him. He's not a registered ebay user anymore but if you get anyone buying from this address don't send it.

King
12216 apache ave
apt808
savannah, GA 31419
United States

[brykasch]

Hello - thank you for making the payment. Although I appreciate it since no communication was made I thought you did not want the item and since then item is no longer available. So here is a full refund of the payment. Thank you again.

seller never sent a invoice or any contact, was just paying another invoice as well so figured get it taken care of since it had been 7 days. It was refunded about 5 minutes later with this message.

gourmetgem is the sellers name, I didn't bother to reply if its been sold they broke our agreement. left proper feedback and contacted eBay as well. Sad to ruin perfect feedback over one transaction.

[Cornelius]

Hello - thank you for making the payment. Although I appreciate it since no communication was made I thought you did not want the item and since then item is no longer available. So here is a full refund of the payment. Thank you again.

seller never sent a invoice or any contact, was just paying another invoice as well so figured get it taken care of since it had been 7 days. It was refunded about 5 minutes later with this message.

gourmetgem is the sellers name, I didn't bother to reply if its been sold they broke our agreement. left proper feedback and contacted eBay as well. Sad to ruin perfect feedback over one transaction.

Wait, you didn't pay or contact the seller in any way for 7 days?

[brykasch]

Like I said I had forgot about the auction, I don't check eBay every day ( and there could be a number of reasons why I asnt able to take of it till then), I am sure your going to put this on me, and if you want to that's fine its your choice. The fact remains they resold the item

[JSoup]

Like I said I had forgot about the auction, I don't check eBay every day ( and there could be a number of reasons why I asnt able to take of it till then), I am sure your going to put this on me, and if you want to that's fine its your choice. The fact remains they resold the item

They resold the item because you 'forgot' to check on your auction and thus didn't pay for your shit. This is your fault and no one else.

[NayusDante]

Many sellers will state that they will relist the item if you don't pay for it. Paying a week late is pretty irresponsible, and you should have gotten a "You won XXXXX..." email. If you can't check your email at least once a week, then you do not have my sympathy.

Seriously, why doesn't anyone check their email anymore? When did email get uncool?

[ryborg]

Like I said I had forgot about the auction, I don't check eBay every day ( and there could be a number of reasons why I asnt able to take of it till then), I am sure your going to put this on me, and if you want to that's fine its your choice. The fact remains they resold the item

You are truly a horrible buyer with no knowledge of ebay policies, yet you have an attitude like things should be done your way or not at all. Please delete your ebay account and until that happens, ebay user bryanandrachelkasch, enjoy your stay on my blocked bidder list.

(Also the seller isn't even a classic game seller. They've sold ONE video game related item in 2009.)

[brykasch]

Many sellers will state that they will relist the item if you don't pay for it. Paying a week late is pretty irresponsible, and you should have gotten a "You won XXXXX..." email. If you can't check your email at least once a week, then you do not have my sympathy.

Seriously, why doesn't anyone check their email anymore? When did email get uncool?

Actually i check my e-mails multiple times a day. Like I said before I never received anything from the seller. I probably did from ebay but it probably got deleted by accident. it happens. i wasn't purposely avoiding paying for the item, it slipped through the cracks. I attempted to pay for it the seller refused. If the seller had put anything int he listing that said if you dont pay within x days I reserve the right to resell etc, I wouldn't have batted an eye. But they didn't.

I'm not looking for sympathy, I know better to get that in any form on a message board. Just putting my experience out there, you can disagree with me if you like.

[kai123]

I don't know what to do about a buyer who left me a negative without even trying to tell me what was wrong in the first place. I hear about what went wrong in a negative feedback. I figured he was a good guy he has over 2000 on his feedback. I just hate bs, and I feel like I am being served a giant plate of BS. Just venting to be honest. I will post his username as soon as ebay sides with them. What's the point of being a seller on ebay anymore? I have zero tools at my disposal.

[-_-Nintendo-_-]

Many sellers will state that they will relist the item if you don't pay for it. Paying a week late is pretty irresponsible, and you should have gotten a "You won XXXXX..." email. If you can't check your email at least once a week, then you do not have my sympathy.

Seriously, why doesn't anyone check their email anymore? When did email get uncool?

Auctually, the Seller is technically wrong in this case. Ebay give a buyers 7 days at least before an unpaid item dispute can be opened.

He should not have resold it without first going through the correct channels.

With that being said, I think it is pretty harsh to leave a negative, he did refund your refund promptly and sent a polite email.

But that's just me.

[ryborg]

I don't know what to do about a buyer who left me a negative without even trying to tell me what was wrong in the first place. I hear about what went wrong in a negative feedback. I figured he was a good guy he has over 2000 on his feedback. I just hate bs, and I feel like I am being served a giant plate of BS. Just venting to be honest. I will post his username as soon as ebay sides with them. What's the point of being a seller on ebay anymore? I have zero tools at my disposal.

Welcome to ebay selling. Stupid negs from stupid buyers are a way of life, and the buyer is always right in the eyes of ebay/Paypal.

That said, you can mutually withdraw feedback, so email the buyer and ask if there's anything you can do for him to remove the feedback (if feedback is that important to you).


Auctually, the Seller is technically wrong in this case. Ebay give a buyers 7 days at least before an unpaid item dispute can be opened.

No. Clearly listed auction rules trump everything else, as long as they're within reason.

Let's say a seller is selling tickets for a football game. The auction ends on Tuesday and the game is on Sunday. The seller says payment must be made within 2 days. The buyer does not pay by then. Do you really think the seller should have to wait a full seven days before filing a dispute, then wait another seven days for the buyer to not respond before they relist, making the tickets useless?

Ebay may not be very seller-friendly these days, but in situations like this, they will ALWAYS side with the seller, within reason.

[flyingducky]

I'll like to add Ebay user ca_cheapskate to the list. He sold a damaged game to me than tried blaming it on shipping. After I was able to prove he shipped it damaged he blamed it that he didn't see the damage cause hes over 50 years old and couldn't see the damage. I asked for a refund and he response was he will only return the over payment from the shipping. he charged me a little over $5.00 and the shipping cost was $2.50 so he says he'll send me $2.50 back. No loss to him however for me I got a damaged game and i'm out the money. I should add that he also said that if I send the game back he'll return the money I payed once he has it... however he has lied to me so many times there is no way I will trust him to get my money back after I send it at this point... BUYERS BEWARE

[JSoup]

No loss to him however for me I got a damaged game and i'm out the money.

Not that I'm defending the guy, but if $5 broke the bank, why the hell are you buying games?

[ryborg]

After I was able to prove he shipped it damaged...

How exactly did you do that?

Also, agreein' with this:


Not that I'm defending the guy, but if $5 broke the bank, why the hell are you buying games?

[NayusDante]

What game?

Define "broken?"

What was the winning auction price, vs how much shipping did he charge?

[flyingducky]

How exactly did you do that?

Also, agreein' with this:

in the picture he provided you can see a very faint line if you zoom in on the picture were the crack is.

and second $5.00 didn't break the bank its the principle of it. he willing didn't disclose the exact condition of the game in the auction and in the end sold a game he knew was damaged and tried to blame it on shipping.

[ryborg]

in the picture he provided you can see a very faint line if you zoom in on the picture were the crack is.

and second $5.00 didn't break the bank its the principle of it. he willing didn't disclose the exact condition of the game in the auction and in the end sold a game he knew was damaged and tried to blame it on shipping.

So you think instead of it being an honest mistake, he's a tricky scamster, out to pull a fast one on a $5 game?

The seller has 99.9% feedback with extremely high DSR ratings, so I'm inclined to believe that his goal isn't to rip people off. It's unfortunate that your game is slightly damaged, but it's going to happen once in a while when you purchase items on the internet. If this is unacceptable, I'd recommend sticking to your local game stores.

[flyingducky]

you guy are welcome to come to any concussion you want, all I was trying to do was show someone lied and that others should be carful when dealing with this guy.

edit: I will add that the seller and I did come to an agreement just now. So I won't leave him a negative. however as I said before he did initially lie about the condition.

[NayusDante]

Check this out... I'm selling some broken PSPs (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280409555596) for parts and I think I described everything pretty well. Is there any excuse for a question like this:

"Hey there, Is this Item still available for sale and is it in good condition (a presentable condition) if so please reply me with your asking price for the Item and can i see more pictures of the Item. Thanks and hope to hear from you. Gehman"

The user (butterfly182310) has good feedback as a buyer, but I want some feedback before I write it off as a hijacked account.

[megasdkirby]

Check this out... I'm selling some broken PSPs (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280409555596) for parts and I think I described everything pretty well. Is there any excuse for a question like this:

"Hey there, Is this Item still available for sale and is it in good condition (a presentable condition) if so please reply me with your asking price for the Item and can i see more pictures of the Item. Thanks and hope to hear from you. Gehman"

The user (butterfly182310) has good feedback as a buyer, but I want some feedback before I write it off as a hijacked account.

You could also state once more that the item is broken and not working. Plenty of buyers don't read descriptions and simply look at the "pretty pictures"

[NayusDante]

Yeah, but when I write "Broken... For Parts..." and the like in the title, you'd think that most people would understand. Asking "is this item still available" seems kind of odd, as does asking for the price when it's Buy It Now.

I swear the question text sounds familiar and this thread came to mind.

[wingzrow]

artphotodude

Buys a dreamcast game from me that I list as, in big red letters no less " EXTREMELY SCRATCHED DOES NOT BOOT, MIGHT BE MADE PLAYABLE AGAIN BY BUFFERING " Then negative reps me when he can't fix it.

[ryborg]

artphotodude

Buys a dreamcast game from me that I list as, in big red letters no less " EXTREMELY SCRATCHED DOES NOT BOOT, MIGHT BE MADE PLAYABLE AGAIN BY BUFFERING " Then negative reps me when he can't fix it.

Am I blind or do I not see the neg he left you?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=FeedbackLeftForOthers&userid=artphotodude&iid=-1&de=off&items=200

[JSoup]

Am I blind or do I not see the neg he left you?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=FeedbackLeftForOthers&userid=artphotodude&iid=-1&de=off&items=200

Well, he said 'negative rep', which, if I recall, is eBay lingo for negative reply, which is different that negative feedback (in other words, he might have just gotten a nasty e-mail or something).

Or I'm an idiot and wingzrow just had it removed.

[wingzrow]

No you guys were right, I need to cut back on the shortened terms for coherency's sake.

Here's the listing in question. It's fairly old ( compared to my other listings anyway ) and my listings look MUCH better than this now, check for yourself.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160381777963

Dear Seller:

artphotodude: It turns out that the scratches on this disc are on the data (graphic) side and cannot be buffed out. Would you consider at least a partial refund?

Wingzrow: I said very very clearly in big red letters in the listing description that it did not start up and that it was VERY scratched. I made that all extremely clear.

artphotodude: By definition, a disc that is scratched beyond repair, cannot be "acceptable" as you have it listed at the top of the listing. Expect a negative feedback in a few days when the system lets me. You had no business even putting this up for auction.

Now he's opened up a case about it. I didn't even say it was possible to repair the disc, just simply that it MAY be possible. He knew what risk he was taking going into this, buying up a disk in an attempt to repair it.

The fact alone that he's not asking for shipping as part of the refund and that this entire matter is over $4.95 makes me think he knows he has nothing on me. The whole thing about me listing it as acceptable is BS too since there's no way to list a defective item any lower than that.

[megasdkirby]

Next time, avoid lines like:

"A Disc Buffer To Remove Scratches May Make it Playable Again"

Although it's quite obvious what it means, some buyers are too stupid too read or comprehend the message correctly.

Like the customers I attend...I tell them one thing and they understand another...sigh...

[wingzrow]

well he finally gave me negative feedback today when he lost the case. Safe to say you shouldn't be bothering with him.

[ryborg]

Ouch. Too bad you left him a positive saying: "Instant Payment, No Complaints." Exactly why I wait to leave feedback until it's been left for me.

I like how he says you have no business putting it up for auction. What the hell does that mean? I don't recall anyone putting a gun to his head, forcing him to buy it. All part of the fun of selling used/as-is items I guess.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Do yourself a favor. Avoid "ricklldoit".

Long story short, My hometown has been dealing with some serious storms lately so I've been unable to leave home. This person bought something from me on Wednesday, so I sent him a message saying that I would be unable to ship the item until the storms cleared. I offered a partial shipping refund. He wanted a -full- shipping refund. I said I was going to offer a $2 refund because "I charge $3 - $1 is for bus fare and the bubble mailer, the $2 is for postage and any extra costs come out of my own pocket."

This is what he replied:

"bus fair and storms not my problem. mail delivers rain sleet and snow. i
dont really care about the two or three bucks refund. ill see when it gets
here"

I'm expecting a neutral or a negative because of this. Avoid him. :(

[wingzrow]

@ ryborg: I do that with every item that gets payed for. 98% of the time it's not even an issue. I find I have a much better chance of someone leaving me positive feedback in return if I give them possitive feedback as soon as possible.

Here's another guy you might want to avoid. He's being really rude threatening me like this and the best I could say is to please wait another week for it to arive but this is what he says.

Ebay name: mustangmatt302

"alright its been 10 business days since you shipped it and i still havent gotten it . your only a few states away from me it should have been here long ago . i want a refund . i dont want to make a case with ebay unless i have to ."

[GizmoGC]

norfolkstate2003

- He bought a $1.99 E-Reader card from me and after 10 days of the auction ending alerted eBay he had not received. He stated he had contacted me (never happened, eBay has proof of this). So I simply sent him a refund back and he left me a negative stating how he 'really wanted the card'. Seriously, you expect the item within 10 days of the auction ending when you didn't pay right away and it's being shipped in a friggin envelope with a .44 cent stamp on it (and Monday was a Holiday)? I plan on taking a picture of one of the cards cut up and sending it to him and stating had he not lied, he would have gotten a few as replacements.

[JSoup]

Do yourself a favor. Avoid "ricklldoit".

Long story short, My hometown has been dealing with some serious storms lately so I've been unable to leave home. This person bought something from me on Wednesday, so I sent him a message saying that I would be unable to ship the item until the storms cleared. I offered a partial shipping refund. He wanted a -full- shipping refund. I said I was going to offer a $2 refund because "I charge $3 - $1 is for bus fare and the bubble mailer, the $2 is for postage and any extra costs come out of my own pocket."

This is what he replied:

"bus fair and storms not my problem. mail delivers rain sleet and snow. i
dont really care about the two or three bucks refund. ill see when it gets
here"

I'm expecting a neutral or a negative because of this. Avoid him. :(

I'm going to make myself a bit unpopular here, but that guys got a point. All customers care about is getting the thing they bought as quickly as possible, that's true of any business. If you saw that there was going to be something weather related preventing you from shipping in a timely matter, you should have pulled the auction.

[Kitsune Sniper]

I'm going to make myself a bit unpopular here, but that guys got a point. All customers care about is getting the thing they bought as quickly as possible, that's true of any business. If you saw that there was going to be something weather related preventing you from shipping in a timely matter, you should have pulled the auction.

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So let me get this straight: I offered a partial shipping refund because of the weather, which was entirely out of my hands, which nobody had any clue how bad it would get, which prevented me from going to the post office, and you take his side? Even after he basically threatened to leave me a negative if I didn't offer a full shipping refund, you still side with him?

I just spent TWO DAYS walking around my house, trying to make sure the second floor didn't flood itself. I only slept about four hours total in two days. The weather BARELY cleared up. This guy acted like it was nothing, since he's from the northeast and they get hit by snow all the time but down here, a storm like this only comes along once every six or seven years. My house is old and I haven't been able to afford fixing the roof for a very long time, not since my father got ill.

I didn't have regular internet access for most of those two days. We had power outages. The ISP had connection outages. I spent two days awake because the rain wouldn't stop coming. I couldn't leave my house and I used up all the pots and pans in hopes of not having the second floor flood itself. I did what I could and the water still seeped down to the first floor.

In five years of selling on eBay, nobody has ever threatened me with a negative like that. EVER. All over A FUCKING DOLLAR.

In fact, I think I'll just contact eBay and report his ass.

Goddamn.

[JSoup]

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So let me get this straight: I offered a partial shipping refund because of the weather, which was entirely out of my hands, which nobody had any clue how bad it would get, which prevented me from going to the post office, and you take his side? Even after he basically threatened to leave me a negative if I didn't offer a full shipping refund, you still side with him?


Yes. I've run the family business using eBay since January of 1996, every ounce of experience in my body tells me that the costumer has a point here. It's not his problem that you had problems, he is under no obligation to accept anything you offer him outside of what he originally bought. This is beside the fact that eBay policy clearly backs this position. Additionally, I don't know about where you were, but most of the Western half of the U.S. had all kinds of clues that the weather was going to take a turn for the worse (News, emergency reports, looking outside once in a while), so don't pretend everything was sunshine when the auction was half over and, suddenly, locusts appeared.

Threatening you, however, that does cross a line.


I just spent TWO DAYS walking around my house, trying to make sure the second floor didn't flood itself. I only slept about four hours total in two days. The weather BARELY cleared up. This guy acted like it was nothing, since he's from the northeast and they get hit by snow all the time but down here, a storm like this only comes along once every six or seven years. My house is old and I haven't been able to afford fixing the roof for a very long time, not since my father got ill.

I didn't have regular internet access for most of those two days. We had power outages. The ISP had connection outages. I spent two days awake because the rain wouldn't stop coming. I couldn't leave my house and I used up all the pots and pans in hopes of not having the second floor flood itself. I did what I could and the water still seeped down to the first floor.

While I sympathize with you, these are personal problems, not the buyers.


In five years of selling on eBay, nobody has ever threatened me with a negative like that. EVER. All over A FUCKING DOLLAR.

In fact, I think I'll just contact eBay and report his ass.

Goddamn.

What are you going to report him over? "Hello, eBay? This guy was rude to me and he wouldn't understand that I have problems! I know there is no policy that supports me on this, but, please, BAN HIS ASS NOW!!!!11@"

[Kitsune Sniper]

What are you going to report him over? "Hello, eBay? This guy was rude to me and he wouldn't understand that I have problems! I know there is no policy that supports me on this, but, please, BAN HIS ASS NOW!!!!11@"

I offered a partial shipping refund and he said this: "how bout you pay shipping and ill still leave you a positive feed back, sound fair?"

I said it wasn't fair. I was offering $2. That sounds like a thinly disguised threat to me - gimme free shipping or I won't leave you a positive.

If I had taken much longer to ship an item then yes, I would've given free shipping. But I didn't. I could've easily refunded $1 but I went with $2 instead, since it seemed fair enough. But a full refund... no. Just no.

And I did report him for feedback extorsion. For some reason I got a reply from eBay mentioning bodily harm, which made no sense, but whatever.

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

bea24azul

I sold him a NIB dreamcast and he got it and it was damaged inside, according to him. His first email was that I lied, I opened the box because there was no seal on it, and that it was damaged.

I told him that the box never had any seals on it, and you can tell because there are no marks where a seal would go and would have been removed. I also told him that all of my auctions are no refunds. He told me I knew it was damaged, I opened it, and I defrauded him. Just as I was about to tell him to just ship it back to me (at his cost) and I would refund the PURCHASE price only, he left me negative feedback and responded to my email as "I hope you lose your account."

He never offered to send me pictures of the damage, I have a picture of the serial number from outside the box so I would know if he swindled me. The best part is, he has three negatives that didnt show up due to the new feedback rules.

Lesson learned on my part, if you can open a box because it has no seals, do so. It would be real easy to not deal with overseas people any longer, but that's not fair to the multitude of GOOD international buyers.

[darkslime]

Kitsune - At that point I would just refund him the $2 and move on. Its really not worth getting worked up over.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Kitsune - At that point I would just refund him the $2 and move on. Its really not worth getting worked up over.

I will, in a little bit. eBay sent me this message, though:


Thank you for writing eBay in regard to harassing email you received
from another member.

Thanks for bringing this issue to our attention. I know how
uncomfortable this is most specially if you're not doing anything
against them. Your report will help make the eBay Community safer for
everyone.

As soon as I send the tracking number, he's gone.

[wingzrow]

Got a message today saying I actually LOST the case against artphotodude. Ebay has never done anything this stupid to me. I'm speechless.

Avoid artphotodude like the plague.

[megasdkirby]

Got a message today saying I actually LOST the case against artphotodude. Ebay has never done anything this stupid to me. I'm speechless.

Avoid artphotodude like the plague.

I pressume he still has to ship the game back to you, correct?

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

PayPal is odd about this.... I sold someone a stereo and they bitched it didnt work (which it did) I agreed to a partial refund of the pruchase price pending I received it back in the mail. PayPal closed the case, instantly refunded the guy his money, and I never got my stereo back!

This time, for the Dreamcast Fiasco, I offered NO refund and completely filled the reason block with the rationale. If an UNOPENED/UNTESTED/No Returns accepted listing gets me... Im going to be pissed. PP has a BAD habit of just giving the buyer all the money back, including the money used to actually ship it!

[JSoup]

PayPal is odd about this.... I sold someone a stereo and they bitched it didnt work (which it did) I agreed to a partial refund of the pruchase price pending I received it back in the mail. PayPal closed the case, instantly refunded the guy his money, and I never got my stereo back!

This time, for the Dreamcast Fiasco, I offered NO refund and completely filled the reason block with the rationale. If an UNOPENED/UNTESTED/No Returns accepted listing gets me... Im going to be pissed. PP has a BAD habit of just giving the buyer all the money back, including the money used to actually ship it!

Dump the money from your paypal to another place, problem solved. Unless they already froze the transaction.

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

They did, and unfortunately in the fine print you agree to allowing them to pull it from your accounts you have setup with them. Right now I am sitting -$88 for the time because of this madness. ( I dont leave any cash in the account usually)

J

[JSoup]

They did, and unfortunately in the fine print you agree to allowing them to pull it from your accounts you have setup with them. Right now I am sitting -$88 for the time because of this madness. ( I dont leave any cash in the account usually)

J

There are ways around this. The account I have connected to my PayPal is set up in such a way that I get automated calls before transactions of any kind are completed. If I say that I don't authorize a transaction, it's rejected on the spot. The real loop-hole is PayPal requires YOU to agree to give them access, but that doesn't mean the bank/credit union you use has to agree. Back in the early days of PayPal, my regular bank wouldn't accept transactions from them, as they viewed the site as a financial risk.

[ryborg]

Got a message today saying I actually LOST the case against artphotodude. Ebay has never done anything this stupid to me. I'm speechless.

Avoid artphotodude like the plague.

It was a not-as-described dispute, right? Paypal sides with the buyer 99.999999% of the time, irregardless of facts. I swear you could buy a blue shirt, file a dispute because you wanted a red one, and you would still win as long as you returned the blue shirt. I just might try that one day if I'm feeling especially narcissistic.

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

Good call. Maybe I will call Bank of America and let them know they need to call me before any paypal transaction takes place... the only big issue I forsee is situations like now where I have over 50 auctions going and I anticipate getting paid by paypal in all but one of them.... FML.

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

It was a not-as-described dispute, right? Paypal sides with the buyer 99.999999% of the time, irregardless of facts. I swear you could buy a blue shirt, file a dispute because you wanted a red one, and you would still win as long as you returned the blue shirt. I just might try that one day if I'm feeling especially narcissistic.

I really hope that I fall into the .000001% that they side with. Can it be THAT hard to read the auction and a statement and realize someone is trying to do Schenanigans?

[Kitsune Sniper]

Bank of America

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

*falls off his chair*

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What. You're serious?

[megasdkirby]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

*falls off his chair*

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What. You're serious?

O_o

What's so bad about Bank of America? I have a CC with them and their service has always been excellent...at least for me.

[Kitsune Sniper]

O_o

What's so bad about Bank of America? I have a CC with them and their service has always been excellent...at least for me.

Other than the fact that they've consistently gone out of their way to screw my family out of hundreds of dollars for years?

I was so disgusted by their so-called customer service I terminated my account and told the local branch to go fuck themselves. The -only- reason the local branch is still around is because, and I'm sorry if I sound racist, Mexican farm workers don't know any better and flock to the closest bank to the border instead of going to one that doesn't charge them outrageous fees.

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

BoA has been the best Bank I have ever used. I have been with four banks over the years and they have been consisently the best. The only time BOA takes away money is if you dont keep your account current, over draft the account, or canx a check. Keep a positive balance and theres no issues. The only time I have been charged "You screwed yourself fee" was using a non-BoA ATM... but then again, I knew that going into using the ATM.

Back to on topic: stay away from bea24azul... this person is a pain in the ass and has gone out of their way to screw me on this transaction.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Speaking of back on topic... The guy I was complaining about just asked me where his item is. After I added the tracking number to the PayPal transaction yesterday. Which he should've gotten a notification for since -I sent a refund right after that and he didn't ask about it-.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH. IT'S BARELY BEEN A DAY LEAVE ME ALOOOOOOOOOOOONE

[tubeway]

The only time BOA takes away money is if you dont keep your account current, over draft the account, or canx a check. Keep a positive balance and theres no issues.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. I've had a free checking account with them for around 10 years now. I've had my account balance current and haven't had any overdrafts or cancelled checks or anything of that nature for quite some time.

Then like two months ago BofA is all, "HERP DERP, we're gonna start charging you $8.95 per month unless you either have one or more direct deposits per month or you make sure you have over X amount (a couple grand) in your checking account at any given time."

Apparently they decided to do away with the type of free checking account I have because it's not making them any money.

So now I just try to make sure I sell an item or two each month on Amazon and have that count towards the direct deposit requirement. ;)

[JSoup]

I've never used BoA myself, but friends have told me that they have a habit of nickle and dimeing a person.

[ryborg]

Then like two months ago BofA is all, "HERP DERP, we're gonna start charging you $8.95 per month unless you either have one or more direct deposits per month or you make sure you have over X amount (a couple grand) in your checking account at any given time."

Apparently they decided to do away with the type of free checking account I have because it's not making them any money.

So now I just try to make sure I sell an item or two each month on Amazon and have that count towards the direct deposit requirement. ;)

Yeah, whenever a bank tries that shit with me, I *immediately* close my account and move on. I live in a city with ~15 banks to choose from, many of which always have promotions that can net you free $50-200 upon sign-up and some light hoop-jumping. Bank of America can eat my ass. They are horrible for reasons too numerous to get into here.