E3: NINTENDO (Revolution and more)

[PDorr3]

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[Famidrive-16]

So... any news?

[Kilik Kurosawa]

no but i smell meseta hunters afoot

[PDorr3]

we must wait until tomorrow for the press conference. I am anxious to know exactly what this thing does. I also predict it will be silver in color, just like the PS3.

[PDorr3]

no but i smell meseta hunters afoot

personaly its not about mesta, I will actualy give away all mesta I gain from these topics at the end of E3, I will think up of some mesta contest, dont worry :) Im not in it for the mesta 8-)

[Kilik Kurosawa]

no but i smell meseta hunters afoot

personaly its not about mesta, I will actualy give away all mesta I gain from these topics at the end of E3, I will think up of some mesta contest, dont worry :) Im not in it for the mesta 8-)

actually i was just joking around

[PDorr3]

no but i smell meseta hunters afoot

personaly its not about mesta, I will actualy give away all mesta I gain from these topics at the end of E3, I will think up of some mesta contest, dont worry :) Im not in it for the mesta 8-)

actually i was just joking around

NP LOL

Anyway back on discussion.
Since the revolution was announced to be backwards compatible with gamecube games, would that mean a similar controller to the current gamecube controller? Im guessing so...I mean for games like luigis mansion you pretty much need the same control setup.
This also means I am guessing it will not be virtual reality, as I am not sure as to how they original gamecube games would present themselves in this state.

[Famidrive-16]

Maybe they'll surprise us and have it E-Card reader compatible @_@

:roll:

[PDorr3]

this also makes me wonder wether or not the revolution is making the jump to wireless controllers or not, 360 and PS3 have both done the wireless idea, but My guess is a 75% chance of there being wires to support gamecube controllers, just my guess.

[Veepa]

no but i smell meseta hunters afoot

personaly its not about mesta, I will actualy give away all mesta I gain from these topics at the end of E3, I will think up of some mesta contest, dont worry :) Im not in it for the mesta 8-)

actually i was just joking around

NP LOL

Anyway back on discussion.
Since the revolution was announced to be backwards compatible with gamecube games, would that mean a similar controller to the current gamecube controller? Im guessing so...I mean for games like luigis mansion you pretty much need the same control setup.
This also means I am guessing it will not be virtual reality, as I am not sure as to how they original gamecube games would present themselves in this state.

Maybe they have the same conroller inserts, to where you can plug in a GameCube controller in if you want to play a GamCube game.

[SkiDragon]

Making a system backwards compatable doesnt limit it too much as far as innovation goes. It basically only needs no have at least as many buttons on the controller as the Gamecube. Although I am a fan of Nintendo, I hope they try to "blend in" a bit more with their competitors. Whatever "innovative feature" it has should either not be too strange, or be incredibly new and amazing. I like wireless controllers, but I dont like that to be the only option. There is no reason why it cant also have controller ports, perhaps hidden by a "flap" if appearances are a concern. Graphics arent everything, but they are to some people, so I hope Nintendo keeps up in that department.

[The Great Dane]

I sure hope that the controller isn't the one that has been floating around the net the last couple of days. The one I mean is the one that is actually two seperate controllers that you hold in each hand. This would a great idea for a couple of games, such as maybe a racing game or something similar, but it just wouldn't be very good for the majority of games I wouldn't think. Also, it would be pretty difficult to play Gamecube games with it.

[felix]

I would quote this entire thread, but im too lazy... so here ya go.. the answer to most of the questions above.


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http://onefed.com/media/NintendoON.wmv

[Dobie]

I would quote this entire thread, but im too lazy... so here ya go.. the answer to most of the questions above.


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http://onefed.com/media/NintendoON.wmv

That one has been confirmed as a hoax.

[felix]

SON OF A... :angry:

[poopnes]

I would quote this entire thread, but im too lazy... so here ya go.. the answer to most of the questions above.


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http://onefed.com/media/NintendoON.wmv

The Mario was the dead giveaway!!! =)

Color of the Rev? Silver...err I mean Platinum. Because the GC looks best in Platinum and it's probably sold the best using that color.

And wireless controllers? Of course. Standard. I think Nintendo has already confirmed this. Maybe the GC WaveBirds will work effortlessly with the Rev, thus solving the controller delima when playing GC games.

Now personally would like to see a GameBoy Player built in, but I'm not that lucky.

[robotriot]

http://gamecube.gaming-universe.de/news/2684.html

First pic?

[poloplayr]

Just saw that a couple of hours ago too. Pretty sleek.

[THATinkjar]

http://gamecube.gaming-universe.de/news/2684.html

First pic?

Holy moly Batman! That looks like the size of a CD-ROM drive! Blimey! How on earth have they made it that small and still contend with the next-gen specs we've been treated to this last week?

[robotriot]

It's not really scientific, but from I've heard, Nintendo said the Revolution will be about 3-4 times faster than the GC, while the new Xbox is 13+ times faster than the old Xbox and PS3 is 35x faster than the PS2 ... so it's probably not that hightech as the other consoles. Might be a good thing though, because maybe then the price point will be significantly lower than with the competitors ... we'll see ^^

[I Am Humanoid]

I want a PS9!

[hydr0x]

this also makes me wonder wether or not the revolution is making the jump to wireless controllers or not, 360 and PS3 have both done the wireless idea, but My guess is a 75% chance of there being wires to support gamecube controllers, just my guess.

eeeeeh

i has already been confirmed on friday i think that the Revolution will have wireless controllers ;)

[tylerwillis]

Wireless is good, but I agree with the sentiment to not lockout older style controllers with no ports.

[syzygy]

Maybe this topic should be stickified!

[GobopopRevisited]

http://img131.echo.cx/img131/6315/reg3bn.jpg

Reggie's excited about the Revolution! Here's hoping they actually show it (and here's hoping what they show is similar to that box on the German site!)

Can't wait!

[poopnes]

http://img131.echo.cx/img131/6315/reg3bn.jpg

Reggie's excited about the Revolution! Here's hoping they actually show it (and here's hoping what they show is similar to that box on the German site!)

Can't wait!

Don't make me do it....take your name. =)

That pic is real. IGN has some super high resolution shots now. It's small, but I'm not crazy about it. I wonder if you can turn off the blue light?

There was also some talk about downloadable games. Nintendo has their entire back catalog available to them, so I hope they use it. Charge a monthly fee for unlimited play to the classics, I'd subscribe. But then there's the whole issue of storage...

[PentiumMMX]

If I do get a Gamecube soon, then I can get my parents to buy me a NRev! All I have to tell them is "It's backward-compatible with the Gamecube", and then they will get me one! :D

Thanks, Nintendo! If you keep this up, you might actuly become popular again!

[Zubiac666]

I think that has been confirmed now to be true:

1) The design which is floating around the net(looks great IMO)
2) backwards combatible
3) DVD movies playback
4) wireless controller
5) free online service
6)
Revolution will offer broadband access to a free Internet-based player matching service, similar to Xbox Live, that also will have downloadable versions of nearly every Nintendo game — from arcade classic Donkey Kong through current titles such as Mario Sunshine. (Nintendo hasn't decided whether downloading(WTF? Mario Sunshine? current titles? holy crap....I AM SOLDSource (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/games/2005-05-17-revolution_x.htm?POE=TECISVA)
http://www.gameqube.nl/files/e3-2005-revolution-revealed.jpg

[WanganRunner]

If that's really what the Revolution looks like, that's awesome.

If there really is some big online service with access to Nintendo retrogames, i am completely sold, and that'd make me anticipate the Rev more than either PS3 or 360.

[Lady Jaye]

Well, now that Xbox 360, PS3 and Revolution's designs have all been revealed, all I can say is, welcome to the 21st century! :P

I still wonder what the controllers will be like, although IMO they could just go with a revised version of the Wavebird and that'd be fine with me.

And to think that not so long ago, Nintendo was dismissing online play...

[rbudrick]

What the hell is the white thing below it? A Dreamcast BB adapter? LOL


Nintendo has their entire back catalog available to them, so I hope they use it. Charge a monthly fee for unlimited play to the classics, I'd subscribe. But then there's the whole issue of storage...

That would be an incredibly good idea...built in emulation for all their old systems. Damn. The Revolution would sell like goddamn mofos...it really would be a revolution, and a hell of a way for Nintendo to use their online content in a way nobody else does.

-Rob

[downfall]

What I'd do if I were Nintendo is bundle an updated Wavebird (to match the new design) with the console package, alongside the new controller, whatever it may be. I think it would be easy for them to include compatibility for both, and with the backwards compatibility plus the fact that the Wavebird really sparked this top-notch wireless controller business anyway, it seems to be a no-brainer in my mind.

I just hope they feel the same way - it only makes sense, even if it's not included in a bundle.

[Oobgarm]

Hi-res pics from IGN are here:

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/615/615030/imgs_1.html

[AMG]

We have 7 minutes to go until the Nintendo showing begins at E3!

The console does look very nice. Not as cool as a platinum Gamecube, but nice none the less. :)

[Ikari Warrior]

I'm sad it wasn't the Nintendo On. That thing looked revolutionary.

[THATinkjar]

Those high-resolution piccies of the Revolution are simply stunning. Really purty console. And I thought the PS3 was nice...

[Lemmy Kilmister]

http://gamecube.gaming-universe.de/screens/revolution.jpg

I love how they took a picture of a random disk floating in mid air. LOL It sort of gave me flashbacks of the action/horror movie "I come in Peace".

That being said, I love designs and "modern" looks of all the next gen systems thus far. It's also a plus that they'll all be smaller so they'll actually be some spare space on my shelfs for once.

[Jasoco]

It's all in the camera angle. It could easily be done. Take a pic that makes it look like it's floating, without actually having to Photoshop it. I could do it easily if I had a camera.

Anyways. I am impressed and blown away. But I have to go back to work, so I'll read more afterwards.

I can't wait to see GameStop get the DVD's in. I really want to see this years stuff. Last year it was all portables. Now it's the real things!

And for once, I can say I like all three. BUT, I must say I think Nintendo has won in terms of console simplistic design. Wow. Simple and elegant.

So, is Revolution the name? Or are they still thinking?

[Kilik Kurosawa]

Hi-res pics from IGN are here:

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/615/615030/imgs_1.html


Anyone else think these pics look more like concept art? The hand looks real but the system looks modeled, something just doesn't look completely right.

[CreamSoda]

Hmm, that looks pretty interesting. All 3 of the new consoles look good so far! :)

But with that said, Dreamcast still has the best look!!! *Runs*

[poopnes]

So, is Revolution the name? Or are they still thinking?

I think they're going to keep Revolution. I'm OK with that. I've grown attached to it.

And the download service? Seriously. SOLD. 512MB internal Flash RAM?! SD cards. DVD/CD playback (with an adaptor, blah!!!)! I'm hyped.

Show me some damn games though.

[THATinkjar]

Coverage from the conference!!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/615/615089p1.html

[Dangerboy]

DOWNLOAD NES, SNES, AND N64 GAMES TO THE REVOLUTION.

And Mario DDR.

I....

I'm in tears....

I am so happy....

[tylerwillis]

Wow... if true, that would take a good potshot at Sony's touted 2400+ games (PS1 + PS2) available for the PS3. They would have to do it very well, making it seem that we were playing the original on the original system... but if done well... then the console is well deserving of the name "Revolution."

[YoshiM]

I'm usually not one to jump on a hype bandwagon but I gotta say, if all this is true, then WOW! Be able to download and play classic Nintendo games? THAT is going to be a big selling point right there, provided the games are inexpensive enough (especially if it's played online instead of downloading to memory). Free online gaming? Another big plus for people like me who like the option but don't play online enough to warrant paying for it ($50 a year isn't much but still).

I'm definitely keeping my eyes on the Revolution. Nintendo, make me proud!

[poopnes]

Well damn, I just went though all the trouble of uploading a pic of the GBA Micro and then I hit submit and my thread was locked!!! Argh. =)

Here it is:
http://webpages.charter.net/nes_marc/gbmicro.jpg

[PDorr3]

just got my first peek at it now, I am impressed at how small, sleek, and classy it looks, and cute!
I would have never guessed nintendo made that, and out of the 3 systems the revolution wins hands down in terms of design.

Now for the games...

[poloplayr]

Is this what my beloved Big N shows as a revolution?...I have not been this dissapointed and left saddened or dissilusioned since the launch of the N64.

[The-Bavis]

I want to be the first to start some new wacky theories since not all was revealed. Since we don't know anything about the superduper controllers and at the end Iwata says stuff about "touching his heart" and touching gamers' hearts, it is very obvious that each wireless controller will also have a heart rate monitor. Pretty cool, huh? It's certain to be as popular as that gameshow "The Chair".

</ridiculoustheory>

[PDorr3]

Well damn, I just went though all the trouble of uploading a pic of the GBA Micro and then I hit submit and my thread was locked!!! Argh. =)

Here it is:
http://webpages.charter.net/nes_marc/gbmicro.jpg

Wow, based on the scale from that GBA cart, that thing is sooo small! holy crap, that is the cutest handheld ever, I will definitly buy that, as long as it is below the $80 range, I love that thing.

[Gamereviewgod]

So wait, the best they can do to counter the PSP is to release a third, smaller GBA? That's really, really weak.

[THATinkjar]

They aren't trying to counter the PSP. Nintendo don't need to. Nintendo own the handheld market.

[evilmess]

being able to DL NES, SNES and N64 games sounds great but how long before we see a similar service for Sega's vast library of games from SMS to DC and on which console?

Also I'm wondering if and how much third party software will be available in the retro DL libraries.

We still have a year to go but so far I'm liking what Nintendo has shown so far.

[Nature Boy]

Is it me, or are there only pictures of this thing from the one angle? I don't feel like I've *seen* anything yet. It just looks like a box that they're supporting on an angle with a little stand.

If it's as backwards compatible as people are making it sound, I think it looks good on Nintendo for protecting their intellectual property (i.e. Roms) all this time.

[LensIrritant]

Does anyone else foresee the catalog of classic games having a huge impact on demand and prices of the original cartridges?

[PDorr3]

being able to DL NES, SNES and N64 games sounds great but how long before we see a similar service for Sega's vast library of games from SMS to DC and on which console?

Also I'm wondering if and how much third party software will be available in the retro DL libraries.

We still have a year to go but so far I'm liking what Nintendo has shown so far.

I just got done watching the press video, and when it was revealed that you could DL any nintendo game ever, I truly could not believe my eyes and ears!
Revolutionary indeed, how they will pull it off, and how they will go about selling, is beyond me, but all in all I think nintendo wins in innovation, I could not have seen this coming if I had 1,000 guesses.

The GBA Micro is a neat idea, and as he said, it offers the best quality screen on a handheld, it is also quite impressive as to its size. Sure it offers nothing groundbreaking, but if its at the right price (can you say $50?) I will be getting one for sure!

The new zelda game is.....strange....my friends and I had speculation that link was a wolf, and damn we were right! it looks a bit ridiculous at first, but I can see as to how this might play out (nightime = transformation).
Different? yes
Will it work? I hope...

Biggest suprise? Mario DDR, LOL !

Great stuff from nintendo

[WanganRunner]

Does anyone else foresee the catalog of classic games having a huge impact on demand and prices of the original cartridges?

Well, maybe a little bit. Given that emulation is already pretty widespread though, I'd guess not, as this is a less appealing option than emulation is.

The real question is.....what would original cartridge prices be like if there WAS no emulation? My guess is that they'd be through the roof....although it wouldn't much effect the prices of seldom-emulated stuff (i.e. Saturn).

[Julio III]

Game Boy Micro
2 inches by 4 inches
Backlit screen but smaller than the current GBA/SP one. Its not a new format so not competing against the DS but simply plays GBA, GBC and GB games. Apparentely its going to have interchangable faceplates.
One question though, are they still going to sell the SP? And, second question, how come Advance isn't in the name even though its the same format and not a new one. I'm not sure they need this as well as the DS but if this is cheaper than the DS I can see its advatages in being ultra-portable.

As for the Revolution, its tiny. Downloadable back catalgogue is nice. I wonder what the controller looks like and how powerful it is compared to the PS3 and 360. Free internet access is good also.

[PDorr3]

Game Boy Micro
2 inches by 4 inches
Backlit screen but smaller than the current GBA/SP one. Its not a new format so not competing against the DS but simply plays GBA, GBC and GB games. Apparentely its going to have interchangable faceplates.
One question though, are they still going to sell the SP? And, second question, how come Advance isn't in the name even though its the same format and not a new one. I'm not sure they need this as well as the DS but if this is cheaper than the DS I can see its advatages in being ultra-portable.

As for the Revolution, its tiny. Downloadable back catalgogue is nice. I wonder what the controller looks like and how powerful it is compared to the PS3 and 360. Free internet access is good also.

Agreed, price will be a big factor. If it is cheap it will be a big seller, and the most portable form of handheld systems. As small as the SP is it is still a LITTLE bulky in the pocket.

I was also most interested in how the controller would work, but unfortunately it seems we will need to wait longer for details on that. They have something up their sleeve though, something that nobody expects with the way we will be playing games...

[Drexel923]

Does anyone have the Nintendo Press Conference video up yet. I'm still waiting for IGN Insider to get their act together :/

[GrandAmChandler]

Eschewing its previous business ideas, Revolution will be online-friendly, and support a broadband gaming service similar to that of Microsoft's Xbox Live. Its most significant contribution to online gaming will be the ability to download Nintendo's entire catalog of NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64 console games. As for GameCube titles have the potential to be downloadable, though it's not clear whether the games will be saved to storage devices or memory cards.

I am also sold.

[boozi2]

Backward Compatibility.... All I can say.......

[Lady Jaye]

Does anyone have the Nintendo Press Conference video up yet. I'm still waiting for IGN Insider to get their act together :/

For free on Gamespot: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html

[calthaer]

I am nothing short of thrilled by this news. I was ho-hum about Nintendo, and got my PS2 first...but then when the GameCube came down in price, I was like - wow. It was like I rediscovered gaming with Metroid Prime.

NOW...the whole back-catalogue available? Biggest question: will River City Ransom for NES appear on the system, and can you play multi-player over the internet?

This just plain rules. I know which of the next generation systems I'll be getting. The other ones...? They'll have to work a bit harder to convince me. Batarangs and Halo 3 won't quite do it this time around.

[Ninja Blacksox]

Adavantage: Nintendo.

I've posed this question many times before:

Q: What's the one thing that Nintendo has that Sony and Microsoft do not?

A: History.

Nintendo FINALLY came to their senses.

Hopefully the Revolution will catch the tail-end of Hot Topic-inspired Nintendo nostalgia and ride it all the way to the bank.

I, for one, couldn't be happier.

FINALLY! A "BASEBALL STARS" THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BLOW ON!

-A Boy

[Lemmy Kilmister]

Being able to download older games to the Revolution is great and all. But seriously, who here doesn't already have their computer or Xbox filled to the brim with NES, SNES and N64 roms? It's a good idea, but do you seriously believe the typical Joe, let alone hardcore gamer is going to spend 1 to 2 dollars on a rom he can get for free or already has?

[Ikari Warrior]

^ I was thinking the exact same thing.

[Gamereviewgod]

I guess I'm alone in thinking this is useless, and they put on the most unimpressive conference of the group.

Instead of showcasing where they're going, they're showcasing where they've been. They failed completely at showing anything their new system will be capable of. To me this screams that they're out of ideas, banking on the older titles like they did with the Classic NES series. Good for buisness? Maybe. Good for gamers? Nope, I don't see it.

If I want to play older games, I'll either:

A: Play the cart.
B: Download the ROM off romnation.

Why would I pay money to buy a new console when I can already do its most hyped feature on my 5 year old laptop? I'm not even going to touch the Micro, already owning a GBA, a SP, and a DS. It's unnecesary. There are three ways to play your GBA games already, why add a fourth?

Edit: Now that I see the two posts above me, I guess I'm not alone.

[PDorr3]

I guess I'm alone in thinking this is useless, and they put on the most unimpressive conference of the group.

Instead of showcasing where they're going, they're showcasing where they've been. They failed completely at showing anything their new system will be capable of. To me this screams that they're out of ideas, banking on the older titles like they did with the Classic NES series. Good for buisness? Maybe. Good for gamers? Nope, I don't see it.

If I want to play older games, I'll either:

A: Play the cart.
B: Download the ROM off romnation.

Why would I pay money to buy a new console when I can already do its most hyped feature on my 5 year old laptop? I'm not even going to touch the Micro, already owning a GBA, a SP, and a DS. It's unnecesary. There are three ways to play your GBA games already, why add a fourth?

Edit: Now that I see the two posts above me, I guess I'm not alone.

All valid points, I agree with being able to DL roms, but to the casual gamer, do they even know Where to get roms? Can their computer handle emulation? do they even HAVE a computer? or even know what a rom IS?

I for one do not use roms, and I would pay $1 a game on the ones I would like to play on my tv, and not my computer on a keyboard.

Nintendo out of ideas? Maybe. But we still have yet to see what the revolution can do, until then I am behind them all the way.

[Lemmy Kilmister]

All valid points, I agree with being able to DL roms, but to the casual gamer, do they even know Where to get roms? Can their computer handle emulation? do they even HAVE a computer? or even know what a rom IS?

I for one do not use roms, and I would pay $1 a game on the ones I would like to play on my tv, and not my computer on a keyboard.

Nintendo out of ideas? Maybe. But we still have yet to see what the revolution can do, until then I am behind them all the way.

That just raises even more questions. Do you actually think the casual gamer gives a crap about downloading and playing old NES games? I don't. Most casual gamers I've talk to or showned pre PSX games to usally gives me the typical "this game sucks!! Halo 2 rules, dood LOL!" shit. Plus chances are that if you don't own a computer by now, then I seriously doubt you'll even bother downloading roms for it.

[Drexel923]

Does anyone have the Nintendo Press Conference video up yet. I'm still waiting for IGN Insider to get their act together :/

For free on Gamespot: http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html

Thanks :)

Just got done watching it...and it was ok. I'm a big Nintendo fan (even sometimes a fanboy I guess), but there was too much left out. No games shown for the Revolution...not even cutscene stuff. Heck, they didn't even show the controller...but this is the same company that made the wavebird so I'm not worried ;) I wonder if they will show more on the floor or not.

On the plus side...some the DS games they showed looked great, especially the new SMB...and I'm really pumped for a new Superstar Saga :D I'm liking the free online systems in place for the Rev and DS (just like Xbox 360). And of course the thought of being able to download all of Nintendo's back catalogue is awesome (even more so if it's free). And what might be the best news of all...WIFI SMASH BROS at launch :D

The Gameboy Micro looks nice...and I'm going to buy it (probably just to add to my GB collection). I hope the price is right.

In the end, I wish they would have shown more, but I think they are heading in the right direction. As it's been in the recent past, Nintendo has dissapointed many, heck they even do things that I don't like, but when it's all said and done, I've never been dissapointed with any of their systems. (Is that enough commas for you guys LOL) I don't see why the Revolution will be any different and I will buy it at launch.

[PDorr3]

All valid points, I agree with being able to DL roms, but to the casual gamer, do they even know Where to get roms? Can their computer handle emulation? do they even HAVE a computer? or even know what a rom IS?

I for one do not use roms, and I would pay $1 a game on the ones I would like to play on my tv, and not my computer on a keyboard.

Nintendo out of ideas? Maybe. But we still have yet to see what the revolution can do, until then I am behind them all the way.

That just raises even more questions. Do you actually think the casual gamer gives a crap about downloading and playing old NES games? I don't. Most casual gamers I've talk to or showned pre PSX games to usally gives me the typical "this game sucks!! Halo 2 rules, dood LOL!" shit. Plus chances are that if you don't own a computer by now, then I seriously doubt you'll even bother downloading roms for it.

this is true too, but some of the casual gamers might say "oh wow I can play the old mario! I miss that game after I sold my NES 8 years ago, sure I will pay $1 to play it again!"
All in all we still do not know exactly how they are handling this, so until they release specific charges we can not be certain on how to take this.

[joshnickerson]

I hate the fact that Nintendo's going to once again be taking a huge chunk of my paycheck this year LOL

[PDorr3]

I hate the fact that Nintendo's going to once again be taking a huge chunk of my paycheck this year LOL

no kidding, the next 2 years are going to be insane when it comes to next-gen gamers, we are gonna haveto dish out $800-1000 for the systems alone, well its time to get a job for me! LOL

[Kilik Kurosawa]

Being able to download older games to the Revolution is great and all. But seriously, who here doesn't already have their computer or Xbox filled to the brim with NES, SNES and N64 roms? It's a good idea, but do you seriously believe the typical Joe, let alone hardcore gamer is going to spend 1 to 2 dollars on a rom he can get for free or already has?

dude who would ever pay for music and download it to there computer when they could just bust out the radio and get it for free?