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-hellvin-
02-13-2006, 03:54 PM
My paypal shall be sent by the end of the week. I'm defenitely looking foward to this game's release! Awesome price to for all the work put into it.
VACRMH
03-21-2006, 03:00 PM
:hmm:
beggarprince.com seems to be down.
Everything ok?
EDIT - And it's back up. Carry on :)
Any pictures of the game available? (Case, manual cart)
garyfoo182
03-21-2006, 06:17 PM
Site seems to be down again. How long will you be taking preorders? Im rather skint at the mo
ZAG
Iron Draggon
03-21-2006, 07:55 PM
WOW, I forgot all about this already. I guess I'd better write it down on my list and start saving up for it so I can place my preorder whenever the site is back up again. I don't want to miss out on this one. It's been way too long since I bought a new Genesis game that was a new release.
Sosage
03-22-2006, 04:33 PM
Is there any chance we could get an update on how things are going? Some of us are antsy. ;)
davepesc
03-22-2006, 08:00 PM
It was officially Spring as of March 20. How long ya going to sit on those preorders? Huh?
Jorpho
03-22-2006, 09:16 PM
Um, yeah. Looks like Ms. Underdogs forgot to renew the the-underdogs.org domain name. Home of the Underdogs is now down, and it took the Superfighter home page with it.
Not to worry; I'm sure it's not a bad sign about the project or anything. (I hope they get that site up soon, though; I was about to get some work done there...)
chrisbid
03-23-2006, 08:26 AM
will there be any vendors selling this at cinciclassic?
Griking
03-23-2006, 08:31 AM
I'm confused. Isn't THIS (http://www.beggarprince.com/) the project's website? Did this game have another home on the Underdogs website as well?
Jorpho
03-23-2006, 11:52 AM
It seems that the beggarprince.com domain now redirects to a cox.net domain, which would explain why it went back up so quickly. Just speculation, mind you.
chaoticjelly
03-28-2006, 07:58 PM
I paid for this weeks ago and im starting to get dubious now..
Anyone heard and info about it? Its spring now and the websites not been updated since December 2005!
2Dskillz
03-28-2006, 11:08 PM
Has anyone tried the contact link on the page? I have not yet ordered so I do not really feel I have anything to bug them about, but I was planning on getting this game, now I am getting a little worried about what has become of the situation on the whole...
CMA Death Adder
03-29-2006, 02:38 AM
Hello, all.
It seems that the beggarprince.com domain now redirects to a cox.net domain, which would explain why it went back up so quickly.
On the very day that the-underdogs.org went offline, I was visiting a friend, and he requested I show him an HTML design I'd been working on. The design, stored temporarily on my hosting from the-underdogs.org, didn't show up. I got a little worried. Checking both beggarprince.com and superfighter.com yielded the same result. So, I rushed home all quick-like and upped the websites to a temporary spot on cox.net hosting. It's very stressful, having your website be down for a time (even a short time), and I apologize for how this inconvenience may have affected any of our customers.
I paid for this weeks ago and im starting to get dubious now..
I can understand the impatience that some of you may be feeling. I dislike your having to feel said impatience. We'll deliver Beggar Prince, sure as we promised. All those who have ordered will be sent notification e-mails at the proper time.
Anyone who has pre-ordered up to this point (or chooses to pre-order in the near future) is in for a treat. Waiting is a pain in the neck, but can often be worth it. We're a small company, Super Fighter Team, and we regret having to make our customers wait. Being a game buyer myself, I similarly dislike being forced to sit and wait for a game to be released. However, through the times I've had to do so, the end result is more often worth it than not.
Anyone heard and info about it? Its spring now and the websites not been updated since December 2005!
Actually, there's been press postings added as recently as February 10th, and some retouches to the website even more recently than that. The "on-the-spot news" only reflects the largest of news items.
You all will have to pardon my lack of attention to this thread as of late, I've been increasingly busy with bits here and there, especially in regard to acquiring and establishing new game licenses for our company's future. There's also some exciting new developments on the horizon for our flagship title, Super Fighter, including an up-and-coming new website redesign.
I'm always happy to answer any questions regarding Beggar Prince, regardless of who you are. That's why there's an invitation to contact me directly from the Super Fighter Team website.
Thanks for your continued dedication, support & patience.
Logicdustbin
03-29-2006, 03:10 AM
ohh, I just need $3 more in my paypal so that I can order this game...some one should buy something from my selling thread @_@
chaoticjelly
03-29-2006, 07:35 PM
Thanks for the post CMA Death Adder very informative, I dont mean to be rude but when IS Beggar Prince due to be shipped?
As its now Spring surely a shipping date must of been figured out....?
The Manimal
03-29-2006, 08:35 PM
I'll probably want one of these at a later time. Good to see that they won't be a limited run. :)
coreycorey2000
03-29-2006, 09:08 PM
I thought this was a limited run..... where did you read otherwise? I'm getting tired of waiting and if this isn't a limited run I could be using my money for other things. I preordered ages ago.
CMA Death Adder
03-30-2006, 02:57 AM
The first print run is set at 600 copies. If you'd like to call that a "limited run", I would certainly understand. There's not much profit in this endeavor, and the production cost is high. So, we can't print a large amount of copies in hopes that they mystically sell over time.
Unless any unforseen issues present themselves, we plan to begin shipping Beggar Prince just before June. In any case, all pre-order customers will receive notification just before the games begin to ship.
Any other questions are always welcome, and I'll do my best to answer them in due time.
chaoticjelly
03-30-2006, 06:55 AM
How many pre-orders do you have so far?
BIGMIKE
03-30-2006, 09:03 AM
me thinks this is coming to a good home in the hills :D
davepesc
03-30-2006, 06:35 PM
Unless any unforseen issues present themselves, we plan to begin shipping Beggar Prince just before June. In any case, all pre-order customers will receive notification just before the games begin to ship.
Good news.
Thanks CMA!
CosmicMonkey
03-30-2006, 07:57 PM
Can we see a preview of the cover insert please?
I preordered a loooong time ago, and I'd like a small preview of what I'm getting please.
Iron Draggon
04-02-2006, 01:16 AM
Well I just placed my preorder... I hope this qualifies me for whatever the "treat" is... I don't want to miss out on it! :D
Logicdustbin
04-02-2006, 01:40 AM
I just pre-ordered this myself...
can't wait to play it:)
chaoticjelly
04-14-2006, 09:49 PM
Any other questions are always welcome, and I'll do my best to answer them in due time.
How many pre-orders do you have so far?
2 weeks no reply
No game
O_O
Griking
04-14-2006, 10:53 PM
Any other questions are always welcome, and I'll do my best to answer them in due time.
How many pre-orders do you have so far?
2 weeks no reply
No game
O_O
Unless any unforseen issues present themselves, we plan to begin shipping Beggar Prince just before June. In any case, all pre-order customers will receive notification just before the games begin to ship.
chaoticjelly
04-15-2006, 10:00 AM
Any other questions are always welcome, and I'll do my best to answer them in due time.
How many pre-orders do you have so far?
2 weeks no reply
No game
O_O
Yes, thanks for that, I CAN read, but no reply to my question about pre-orders.
The game was supposedly finished months ago, I dont know why they cant ship it.
Ive never heard of a pre-order 6 months before release, have you?
Unless any unforseen issues present themselves, we plan to begin shipping Beggar Prince just before June. In any case, all pre-order customers will receive notification just before the games begin to ship.
anagrama
04-15-2006, 11:04 AM
I've also had no response to the email I sent on March 30th.
I'm not (yet) doubting that the game is coming in due course, but why bother saying that people are free to contact you and you'll answer any further questions if you're not going to respond?
Frankly, the customer service has been pretty shoddy so far, and I won't be rushing to pre-order any subsequesnt titles after this one.
Griking
04-15-2006, 11:10 AM
Ive never heard of a pre-order 6 months before release, have you?
Are you kidding? They're taking pre-orders for the PS3 as we speak. Gamestop was taking pre-orders for the Xbox 360 at least six month prior to its release. You can pre-order most Madden games six months before they ship as well. I'm pretty sure the new Zelda game was available for preorder for a few months already and they still don't know when that game is going to come out. Lastly, counting the push back in its release, I'm pretty sure that I had my copy of Kingdom Hearts II pre-ordered at least six months before it actually came out. It's not as uncommon as you think.
Besides, the Beggar Prince (http://www.beggarprince.com/) website has always said that the game wouldn't ship until spring. That's doesn't mean the very first day of spring though.
FantasiaWHT
04-15-2006, 05:41 PM
Working for EB as I used to do, I can guarantee you that Zelda: TP has already been preorderable for at least a year. Madden usually shows up a month or two after each release.
CMA Death Adder
04-26-2006, 06:26 AM
How many pre-orders do you have so far?
Around 400.
I've also had no response to the email I sent on March 30th.
I answer every e-mail that comes in to me about Beggar Prince. If I have not responded to your e-mail, it means that I did not receive it. In any case, I apologize if you feel your inquiry was neglected.
why bother saying that people are free to contact you and you'll answer any further questions if you're not going to respond?
As I said, I respond to each e-mail I receive about the game.
I also do my best to visit key forums which discuss the game actively and contribute answers to the questions people raise within them. However I don't always have the free time to stop by these forums as often as everyone may prefer. Sending an e-mail is always the best way to ensure a speedy responce. In that, people are encouraged to contact me and I'll do my best to respond with helpful info.
Frankly, the customer service has been pretty shoddy so far, and I won't be rushing to pre-order any subsequesnt titles after this one.
I am sorry you feel this way. However, I am interested to hear any suggestions you may have as to how I could improve the customer service for everyone.
anagrama
04-26-2006, 08:27 AM
Well, the email I sent was through the contact link at SuperFighter as you stated above.
Is it still on course to be shipped in May?
Is it possible for you to give a preview of the box cover?
CosmicMonkey
04-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Can we see a preview of the cover insert please?
I preordered a loooong time ago, and I'd like a small preview of what I'm getting please.
Is it possible for you to give a preview of the box cover?
'Cmon, at least show us the cover art.....please
Iron Draggon
04-26-2006, 07:00 PM
WOW... Around 400 preorders already for a game with a run of 600 copies... I'm glad that I placed my preorder!
Griking
04-26-2006, 08:58 PM
I wonder how many pricks pre-ordered 3 or 4 copies so they can instantly turn them over on eBay for three or four times the original price.
ryborg
04-27-2006, 04:33 AM
I wonder how many pricks pre-ordered 3 or 4 copies so they can instantly turn them over on eBay for three or four times the original price.
I don't see that happening. The people that know about the game and want it will be preordering it. Why would they "instantly" be bidding hundreds on a game they could have preordered for less months and months prior? Yeah, in time, the game might be worth 3/4 times face value, but not instantly.
I considered preordering some to eventually resell, but decided against it a while ago for the above reasons (and also because I'm not convinced it will increase in value 3/4 times). Why does pre-ordering something like this to resell make you a prick? You're not buying *all* of them to resell, thereby not causing someone to miss out. The producer is happy because they are selling more copies. You are happy because you are confident you will be making a profit. The eventual buyer is happy because he now has the item. What's the big deal?
I'm definitely looking forward to the game, though.
________
Uggs (http://uggstoreshop.com/)
Vroomfunkel
04-27-2006, 06:29 AM
Presumably, if the pre-orders don't sell out the entire production run, Superfighter will co-ordinate the despatch of the pre-orders with their own listings on eBay. Factoring in a bit of a markup to cover fees etc, it should still easily undercut any scalpers. If anyone pays over the odds then, it is entirely their own fault.
If the game does sell out on pre-order, then the price will become whatever the market determines. I would imagine a game with a 600-copy production run will attain a reasonable market value quite quickly, and there's not much you can do about that apart from get your pre-order in ... with a third left, you're not exactly in great danger of missing out just yet.
Vroomfunkel
Mr.Faxanadu
04-27-2006, 12:52 PM
Just ordered one :-P
CMA Death Adder
04-28-2006, 04:21 AM
Well, the email I sent was through the contact link at SuperFighter as you stated above.
That's unfortunate. I can only wonder if I am missing out on any other important e-mails. O_O In any case, I hope to be able to answer all of your questions here, on Digital Press.
Is it still on course to be shipped in May?
Yes.
Is it possible for you to give a preview of the box cover?
Sure, why not (http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/temp/bpbox.jpg).
Presumably, if the pre-orders don't sell out the entire production run, Superfighter will co-ordinate the despatch of the pre-orders with their own listings on eBay.
Incorrect.
CosmicMonkey
04-28-2006, 04:53 AM
To be completely honest, that cover is crap. Sorry, but even I could manage something like that in Photoshop.
Iron Draggon
04-28-2006, 05:56 AM
I dunno, I think it's cool enough. Definitely reminiscent of the style of early Genesis RPG's. And it could be worse.
jsiucho
04-28-2006, 12:21 PM
Yeah the cover could have been better, but I still, I just ordered mine :P
JS
Damaramu
04-28-2006, 03:37 PM
I dig the cover. There's nostalgia to the design. I'm sure it'd be easy enough for Photoshoppers to make their own cover if they wanted.
Daria
04-28-2006, 08:09 PM
It's probably too late for the suggestion. I realize the game is already well under way in terms of production. But before going with that choice, you could have held a contest for submited cover art like they sometimes do for the Atari homebrews. It's just that, I mean it's not... er... look it's ugly. Real ugly.
You've already gone through the trouble of presenting this game as a genuine comercial release. Why discredit the professionalism of the product by releasing it with amateur artwork? It was a really poor choice I think.
VACRMH
04-28-2006, 08:14 PM
Yeah, the art itself isn't that great...
But I love the fact that it looks like an old genesis game :D
Can't wait!
ChronoTriggaFoo
04-28-2006, 08:57 PM
No problem with the logo...
But it looks like the cover art was completed with markers. And the "action" cover seems to lack some action. They're just standing there with weapons in hand.
Hopefully the gameplay will make up for it ;) a la Mega Man 1.
Griking
04-28-2006, 09:14 PM
To be completely honest, that cover is crap. Sorry, but even I could manage something like that in Photoshop.
So what's preventing you? If everyone thinks they can do a better job then do it and post a link of your work here. Perhaps if it's good enough they may use it.
drewbrim
04-28-2006, 10:15 PM
To be completely honest, that cover is crap. Sorry, but even I could manage something like that in Photoshop.
You've already gone through the trouble of presenting this game as a genuine comercial release. Why discredit the professionalism of the product by releasing it with amateur artwork? It was a really poor choice I think.
But it looks like the cover art was completed with markers.
What's wrong with you people? Seriously. We have a NEW rpg for the Genny and you guys are bitching about the cover? If it's that big of a problem I would suggest not buying one and voicing your opinions with your wallet.
badinsults
04-28-2006, 10:41 PM
To be completely honest, that cover is crap. Sorry, but even I could manage something like that in Photoshop.
You've already gone through the trouble of presenting this game as a genuine comercial release. Why discredit the professionalism of the product by releasing it with amateur artwork? It was a really poor choice I think.
But it looks like the cover art was completed with markers.
What's wrong with you people? Seriously. We have a NEW rpg for the Genny and you guys are bitching about the cover? If it's that big of a problem I would suggest not buying one and voicing your opinions with your wallet.
People are very superficial.
Daria
04-28-2006, 11:05 PM
Each copy will consist of a high-quality color instruction manual and a professionally produced cartridge (NTSC & PAL compatible) enclosed within a plastic clam-shell case complete with color insert.
At Super Fighter Team, we are 100% dedicated to quality. The first Sega Genesis game to be professionally released in years, Beggar Prince will have the same shine & shimmer of a big-budget Genesis title.
I dunno, maybe it has something to do with the fact that the final product doesn't reflect the initial promises made?
As for why I'll be buying the game? Correction- already bought the game? I'm looking forward to playing it. I also collect Genesis RPGs. So yeah, no brainer there, had to have it. I am let down by the packaging, but look forward to the game as the two concepts are not mutually exclusive. I am allowed like the game and dislike the artwork.
And the artwork is very poorly done. You can make excuses for it all you like, but the drawing's not getting any better.
What was the initial promise made? Did ST ever promise a laminated shrinky-dink colorforms cover painted by Boris Vallejo?
Considering some of the covers for Genesis games, this is nothing to get excited over.
Iron Draggon
04-29-2006, 12:14 AM
What was the initial promise made? Did ST ever promise a laminated shrinky-dink colorforms cover painted by Boris Vallejo?
Considering some of the covers for Genesis games, this is nothing to get excited over.
That's what I'm saying. It's no worse than the covers for alot of other Genesis games. And besides that, they also mentioned that they did new artwork for the cover because they felt the original artwork wasn't good enough. So how are we to know that the original artwork isn't even worse?
swlovinist
04-29-2006, 01:06 AM
Ok, so the cover is so so, but you know what, dear gosh we have a new release for the Genesis, which is good enough for me.
JPeeples
04-29-2006, 02:17 AM
I like the cover design. Those grid paper cases from '89 ruled, and this is far better than the latter-day paper cases.
Daria
04-29-2006, 08:22 AM
Considering some of the covers for Genesis games, this is nothing to get excited over.
I've seen your list of bad Genesis covers. This makes em look pretty darn good in comparison. :P
And what did they promise? A "100% dedication to quality". I'm sorry that artwork does not reflect that statement in the least.
And if I had to choose between bad new art, and bad original art. Geez, safe yourself the bother and go with the orignal look. I realize it's too late to make any changes but I'm not going to kid myself by saying it's any good. Hell even the people arguing with me are saying "Yeah it's bad but..." But nothing. It's just bad. The next game they release, I suggest they learn from their mistakes and hope they go with another artist.
CosmicMonkey
04-29-2006, 09:25 AM
Consider what Working Designs gave us in the way of Sega CD packaging, then compare it to this.
No I'm not expecting shiney embossed manuals and all that business for a first release, but they did promise high quality. As far as I'm concerned, WD set the standard for translated game releases (packaging wise, the rest is a debate for another topic), and I'd expect something as good as for my money.
And yes, I did preorder a looooong time ago. Therefore I am actually more interested in the game than the damn box cover, but still......
retroboy
04-29-2006, 12:23 PM
JUST ORDERED MY COPY....COOL
Consider what Working Designs gave us in the way of Sega CD packaging, then compare it to this.
No I'm not expecting shiney embossed manuals and all that business for a first release, but they did promise high quality. As far as I'm concerned, WD set the standard for translated game releases (packaging wise, the rest is a debate for another topic), and I'd expect something as good as for my money.
And yes, I did preorder a looooong time ago. Therefore I am actually more interested in the game than the damn box cover, but still......
The world would have been a better place if every company paid as much attention to packaging as WD did, but you have to look at the truth: most people don't care about box art. Wasn't all the cost of all the special packagings one of the reason's WD had trouble?
I look at it this way: we're getting a plastic clamshell case, and that > any bad box art.
Now if ST opted for the cardboard slip cases, THAT would tick me off! :P
ManciGames
04-30-2006, 10:00 AM
Consider what Working Designs gave us in the way of Sega CD packaging, then compare it to this.
Oh my God. You've got to be kidding me.
In a variation of the words of another poster:
New Genny Game > Bad Box Art
Working Designs didn't go under because of the packaging. If anything, the packaging got it more press and sales. What killed WD is SONY saying every game the WD team wanted to bring over didn't have graphics worthy of the PlayStation 2 even though... they were all Japanese PS2 games! SCEA has a real inferiority complex these days and didn't want anything purely 2D or with simple 3D to be released here because it felt things like that made the PS2 look bad in comparison to the Xbox and NGC.
Early on in the PS2's life SCEA was fine with the stuff WD wanted to bring because SCEA was trying to quickly build up the PS2 library. But once Nintendo and Microsoft's competition showed up, SCEA wouldn't have anything to do with game that had "inferior graphics." That's why these days anything 2D is forced to be in a compilation on the PS2.
So WD was in a Catch-22 position: all the great looking games were being bought up by the big boys with deep pockets, and concerning all the leftovers SCEA forced WD to pass. In a desperate attempt, WD even tried to revamp the entire graphics (!) of some of their potentially licensed games. In the end though, the reality of it all showed: a small company, especially a localization house, is no longer welcome in the business world of video games.
I dug through this thread to find the cover art link and I must say that I think the lot of you are being harsh on this cover. The artwork fits right in with the look and feel of the Genesis game. If you are already disappointed by the cover art, you should bring into question your choice to order the game. The screenshots reveal the graphics of the game to be similiar to the cover art, though in a lower resolution.
Myself, I would be very happy to play this game.
CMA Death Adder
05-02-2006, 06:45 AM
Regardless of what you may think of the game's cover art, let us not forget that each copy of Beggar Prince will ship in a plastic clam-shell case, complete with full-color 27-page instruction manual. I certainly consider the product to be of a very high-quality that every owner will be proud of. I've lost more sleep than I care to mention, just to ensure this is the case! :)
retroboy
05-02-2006, 08:05 AM
Hi,
Do you have a shipping date for this game yet, I have placed an order...
anagrama
05-02-2006, 08:22 AM
Hi,
Do you have a shipping date for this game yet, I have placed an order...
Is it still on course to be shipped in May?
Yes.
ManciGames
05-02-2006, 05:19 PM
Regardless of what you may think of the game's cover art, let us not forget that each copy of Beggar Prince will ship in a plastic clam-shell case, complete with full-color 27-page instruction manual. I certainly consider the product to be of a very high-quality that every owner will be proud of. I've lost more sleep than I care to mention, just to ensure this is the case! :)
CMA, I implllooooooooore you...do not listen to individual naysayers that troll message boards. You can't please everyone. All you can do is put out the best possible product that you can with the resources that you have. You'll know whether you are doing that or not by what your gut tells you.
If you do that, you will please more than 50% of those that order your game. And if you can please that many, you've done a good job.
ManciGames
05-02-2006, 05:23 PM
Anagrgama? He of the "AMP" and "Org" Anagramas? It can't possibly be....
yuleeyahoo
05-03-2006, 10:48 PM
CMA, please don't listen to the naysayers. I for one am quite pleased with everything I have seen so far. I placed my order back when you first started accepting them. I am grateful to anyone who takes their free time to enhance my retro hobby.
That goes for you too Manci, I was one of your subscribers and appreciated the effort you put into the magazine.
drwily008
05-04-2006, 12:05 AM
CMA, please don't listen to the naysayers. I for one am quite pleased with everything I have seen so far. I placed my order back when you first started accepting them. I am grateful to anyone who takes their free time to enhance my retro hobby.
That goes for you too Manci, I was one of your subscribers and appreciated the effort you put into the magazine.
Ditto on both points! I am really looking foward to Beggar Prince ever since I played it at CGE 2K5. I will be preordering when I can scrape up a little extra cash.
And Manci Games, you rule. I havent got an issue for a while, but I did meet you and talk to you at PhillyClassic 2004.
PapaStu
05-04-2006, 12:08 AM
Early on in the PS2's life SCEA was fine with the stuff WD wanted to bring because SCEA was trying to quickly build up the PS2 library. But once Nintendo and Microsoft's competition showed up, SCEA wouldn't have anything to do with game that had "inferior graphics." That's why these days anything 2D is forced to be in a compilation on the PS2.
So WD was in a Catch-22 position: all the great looking games were being bought up by the big boys with deep pockets, and concerning all the leftovers SCEA forced WD to pass. In a desperate attempt, WD even tried to revamp the entire graphics (!) of some of their potentially licensed games. In the end though, the reality of it all showed: a small company, especially a localization house, is no longer welcome in the business world of video games.
Actually it was a little more of, WD having friends and major supporters in high high places in SCEA. Not to long after the Launch of the PS2 (and around the time that GunGriffon Blaze and Silpheed came out) those friends stopped working in SCEA. Once that support went bye-bye, the little studio that could do no wrong, could do much of anything any longer. That coupled with the SCEA then new policy for games that expressed the PS2's power (3D), games like Goemon and Growslancer Generations got put on the very slow track for green light. Also that mixed with a lack of selling of their first 2 PS2 games and massive delays on WD's end for Growlsancer(well over a year) and any money that WD had built up from their PSOne successes was gone for good.
Iron Draggon
05-04-2006, 04:55 PM
Well since there is so much of a fuss over the cover art, how about letting us see the original cover art for it too?
I for one don't really care one way or the other what the cover art looks like, as long as it isn't something like plain black text on a plain white background with stick figures colored in crayon. And this certainly isn't that bad at all.
Why some people get so worked up over the cover art is beyond me. You can't play the cover art. It's not the game.
suppafly
05-04-2006, 05:02 PM
It WOULD BE nice if a new cover was designed. However, the most important thing is the game, not a cover :)
rcgamer
05-04-2006, 05:10 PM
it looks like a sega genesis game coever to me. i see nothing wrong with it at all.
Jibbajaba
05-04-2006, 06:56 PM
The picture looks like it was drawn by a 12-year-old. That's what's wrong with it. And no, I couldn't do better, but then you don't see me designing VG cover art, now do you?
I agree with whoever said it. There should have been a contest to design the cover. I don't understand why someone would look at that picture and think "yeah, that's what I want on the cover of the game." If I had been the publisher of this game, and that was the cover art that I had been handed, I would be thinking "yeah, we need to go another way with this one."
And some of us care because we are collectors as well as gamers, and are therefore concerned with the superficial aspects of our games. I can understand some people not being that way, but I would expect you do understand that some of us *ARE* that way.
Sorry to be a dick about this one, but I agree with Daria 100%.
Chris
ManciGames
05-04-2006, 07:40 PM
Ditto on both points! I am really looking foward to Beggar Prince ever since I played it at CGE 2K5. I will be preordering when I can scrape up a little extra cash.
And Manci Games, you rule. I havent got an issue for a while, but I did meet you and talk to you at PhillyClassic 2004.
A big "thank you" to both of you guys. I met a lot of great people in Philly in '04. Everyone was very nice and supportive of the MG project. I'm sure if we talked for any length in Philly and you reminded me what it was about, I'd probably remember you.
I think the thing to remember with Beggar (as was true with MG Mag) is that we weren't doing this to get rich. We just wanted to be able to make enough off the thing to justify the time and expense of producing it. And when you've got people crapping all over grassroots efforts like this, it can really take the wind out of your sails. Just like the people complaining about a typo in that Playstation book a few months back. Makes me sick. Hobbyists step in to provide a product that no large company will touch with a ten foot pole, and all some people can do is complain.
The thing for CMA to remember is that there are a bunch more people like drwiley008 and yuleeyhaoo out there supporting you than there are the detractors that just like to bitch and moan about anything they can bitch an moan about.
I'll bet these same guys complaining about the boxart have a stash of emus 20 meg large, and a bunch of ripped off mp3 files sitting on their computer. Ohhhhh, the hypocrisy. Ohhhhhhh the humanity.
Jibbajaba
05-04-2006, 07:51 PM
Ditto on both points! I am really looking foward to Beggar Prince ever since I played it at CGE 2K5. I will be preordering when I can scrape up a little extra cash.
And Manci Games, you rule. I havent got an issue for a while, but I did meet you and talk to you at PhillyClassic 2004.
I'll bet these same guys complaining about the boxart have a stash of emus 20 meg large, and a bunch of ripped off mp3 files sitting on their computer.
That's sort of an enflammatory and unprofessional comment, don't you think? Daria and I can't voice a negative opinion about some ass-ugly box art without being called criminals?
Chris