Beggar Prince - new Sega Genesis RPG: now shipping!

[CMA Death Adder]

GamesTM magazine (England) featured Beggar Prince in this month's issue, as part of their retro section:

Beggar Prince article in GamesTM magazine (http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/bp/press/pressb.htm)

[CMA Death Adder]

there is a mountain with a skullish face. been in there, searched around, found a locked door. so now what?!?

There are several keys to be found within the mountain. The first one you'll need is in the left portion; not the path which leads to the locked door, but the alternate path. Eventually you will come to a spot that the prince can pass through, which looks like ordinary rock. Within the twists and turns of this section of the mountain, the first key can be found.

[kainemaxwell]

Sweet ad and publicity!

[Chickenpuppet]

there is a mountain with a skullish face. been in there, searched around, found a locked door. so now what?!?

There are several keys to be found within the mountain. The first one you'll need is in the left portion; not the path which leads to the locked door, but the alternate path. Eventually you will come to a spot that the prince can pass through, which looks like ordinary rock. Within the twists and turns of this section of the mountain, the first key can be found.

Thanks guys! I sincerely apreciate the help!

Man, this is an otherwise fun game, but the amount of wandering monster encounters really slows the game play to a crawl. I hope that they will do a sequel, but i hope that the sequel will feature less frequent encounters with perhaps stronger monsters/longer fights.

[segagamer4life]

Anyone get in on the second production run, and get theirs yet? So far nothing here, I ordered back in october, I was just curious if anyone else ordered and received their copy.

[FABombjoy]

I received mine late last week.

[agbulls]

is it any good? really?

[CMA Death Adder]

Play Magazine (USA) reviewed Beggar Prince in their January, 2007 issue:

Play Magazine reviews Beggar Prince (http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/bp/press/pressc.htm)

Yes, we are still taking orders.

[suppafly]

Play Magazine (USA) reviewed Beggar Prince in their January, 2007 issue:

Play Magazine reviews Beggar Prince (http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/bp/press/pressc.htm)

Yes, we are still taking orders.

What an AWFUL review. Someone should teach that woman how to write a proper review. She spent most of the time talking about other things and not about the game´s details. What a waste of paper for the magazine´s readers

[Damaramu]

I agree. Poor "journalism" at work here.

[vaportransmitter]

I bought mine in it's first run as an impulse buy. The game is fantastic, but like most RPGs it's taken the back-burner. I did have some beef with the condition my game arrived in, and figured I may re-order on this 2nd run once I get some money together.

[CMA Death Adder]

What an AWFUL review. Someone should teach that woman how to write a proper review. She spent most of the time talking about other things and not about the game´s details. What a waste of paper for the magazine´s readers

Yeah, it's odd... most of our press has been very positive, but every now and then you get a writer who doesn't understand just what we're trying to do, or the circumstances (and difficulties) behind the endeavor, etc. etc.

In any case, despite the content of this particular review, I'm happy to have our game mentioned in Play Magazine; it will only serve to make more people aware of what we have done. That's a good thing, regardless of the review's tone.

[poieo]

Yeah, it's odd... most of our press has been very positive, but every now and then you get a writer who doesn't understand just what we're trying to do, or the circumstances (and difficulties) behind the endeavor, etc. etc.

Two things which have very little to with reviews, unless you think reviews are supposed to be pats on the back instead of, you know, reviews. Which may very well be what you expect, bringing a 10 year-old Taiwanese RPG back from the dead and doing so rather poorly. But hey, everything's like the Special Oympics, right? A for effort?


In any case, despite the content of this particular review, I'm happy to have our game mentioned in Play Magazine; it will only serve to make more people aware of what we have done. That's a good thing, regardless of the review's tone.

Nobody worth anything reads Play. Really, it's probably more damaging than anything; if Play, of all mags, doesn't jizz over this kind of thing, then that may just be the first time their opinion actually means anything. They usually eat this sort of thing up like it were golden honey. The only real difference here is that we got a meaningless pile of negative drivel as opposed to a meaningless pile of positive drivel.

[Melf]

Two things which have very little to with reviews, unless you think reviews are supposed to be pats on the back instead of, you know, reviews. Which may very well be what you expect, bringing a 10 year-old Taiwanese RPG back from the dead and doing so rather poorly. But hey, everything's like the Special Oympics, right? A for effort?

:rolleyes:

[Policenaut]

Ken, calm down, please. ;)

[bangtango]

Two things which have very little to with reviews, unless you think reviews are supposed to be pats on the back instead of, you know, reviews. Which may very well be what you expect, bringing a 10 year-old Taiwanese RPG back from the dead and doing so rather poorly. But hey, everything's like the Special Oympics, right? A for effort?

Nobody worth anything reads Play. Really, it's probably more damaging than anything; if Play, of all mags, doesn't jizz over this kind of thing, then that may just be the first time their opinion actually means anything. They usually eat this sort of thing up like it were golden honey. The only real difference here is that we got a meaningless pile of negative drivel as opposed to a meaningless pile of positive drivel.

I'm not sure how many people read Play but since you seem to know everything, maybe you could tell me. I think you are missing the point of his enthusiasm over the write up. There are a lot of people who read the magazine and saw that review. Some of them might have laughed it off. That isn't important. It is safe to assume there are at least a few people who read that and never heard of Beggar Prince or knew it was recently released. The whole point of him being excited about the review is that news of the game is reaching some of these people who might otherwise never know about it.

Regardless of what the review looks like or what people like you think of the magazine, a certain percentage of the people reading it will be interested in the game. It may be a very small percentage but some people still want to pick up a game that looks and plays like it was made in 1996. Some woman giving it a 5 isn't going to change that. Otherwise, CMA wouldn't have invested in this project. As for the comment that the game fared poorly, I think the fact it had a second production run says it all. As for your argument, better luck next thread.

[poieo]

That was my point. Nobody cares what Play says about anything. As for your reading comprehension, better luck next thread.

And on top of that, if all you care about is what advertising effect a negative review has, eat shit and die.

[fishsandwich]

For what it's worth, I like PLAY magazine and look forward to getting it every month. SOME of the content is very entertaining and well-written. That being said, I DON'T trust the reviews and I don't have a lot of respect for the publisher. Anyone notice how the last issue had the new Sonic The Hedgehog game on the COVER and gave the 360 version a review score of 9.5? Compiled scores from GameRankings.com give it a 4.7 and that's not good. Seems like Play's reviews and covers are available for sale to the highest bidder. I remember a few issues ago where the editor said that Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness was a great game that had been dumped on unfairly. That game sucked.

[bangtango]

That was my point. Nobody cares what Play says about anything. As for your reading comprehension, better luck next thread.

And on top of that, if all you care about is what advertising effect a negative review has, eat shit and die.

I guess I'm in waaaaaay over my head debating this matter with an internet troll like you. I've seen about half of your fifty posts, all of which flame other people.

[Damaramu]

I guess I'm in waaaaaay over my head debating this matter with an internet troll like you. I've seen about half of your fifty posts, all of which flame other people.


I've noticed that as well. I've got a feeling he won't be here for much longer. Shit, it's probably Tony_Good or some other 'tard like that.

[poieo]

Ah yes. The time tested stance that pointing out idiocy is "trolling". Swift dodge, sir.

[bangtango]

Ah yes. The time tested stance that pointing out idiocy is "trolling". Swift dodge, sir.

The only idiot is a guy who can't go 2-3 posts without cursing or attacking people. You have less than 60 posts and they are all garbage filled with name calling or curses. One post reads "Eat shit and die." You have two or three posts in another thread accusing other people of being "pussies." I seem to remember a couple f-bombs you've wrote. I'm aware this is a message board for all ages and I'm not the language police but no credible member around here regularly curses in their posts like you do.

As for my original point, most game developers would rather have a lukewarm review from a magazine than not even get mentioned in the magazine at all. The only people who care what magazine is writing the review are stupid fanboys. Do you think RockStar games or Nintendo cares whether it is Gamepro, EGM, Game Informer or Play reviewing their game? You seem to think it is a bad thing for the people who produced Beggar Prince to get their game reviewed in Play or any other magazine you don't like.

You're no troll, you got me there. You're a cancer. Guess I stooped to name calling, too. Oops!

[agbulls]

The only idiot is a guy who can't go 2-3 posts without cursing or attacking people. You have less than 60 posts and they are all garbage filled with name calling or curses. One post reads "Eat shit and die." You have two or three posts in another thread accusing other people of being "pussies." I seem to remember a couple f-bombs you've wrote. I'm aware this is a message board for all ages and I'm not the language police but no credible member around here regularly curses in their posts like you do.

As for my original point, most game developers would rather have a lukewarm review from a magazine than not even get mentioned in the magazine at all. The only people who care what magazine is writing the review are stupid fanboys. Do you think RockStar games or Nintendo cares whether it is Gamepro, EGM, Game Informer or Play reviewing their game? You seem to think it is a bad thing for the people who produced Beggar Prince to get their game reviewed in Play or any other magazine you don't like.

You're no troll, you got me there. You're a cancer. Guess I stooped to name calling, too. Oops!

I really hate to just flat out agree with you bangtango, but I'm going to anyway. I have now spent a large portion of the last month meeting new people here and having friendly adult conversations about our beloved hobby. For the most part, this board consists of adults who are sensible and use logic in conjuring up arguments. But this guy decided to hop into the Wii thread that Anthony created and fire up a huge storm against me and accuse me "of having no perspective for someone who worked for EB." You can disagree with people---that is all well and fine. But you don't have to be vindictave and cruel. If we wanted that we would go to the gamefaqs boards. Thanks, I feel I've made my peace now :)

[Melf]

Nobody cares what poieo says about anything

Fixed.

[CMA Death Adder]

Retro Gamer magazine (England) worked a rather lovely, 3-page Beggar Prince feature into their 28th issue. Though the magazine shipped in September, 2006, I just recently received high-quality scans of the feature. So, without further ado:

Retro Gamer reviews Beggar Prince and interviews Brandon Cobb (http://dfg.the-underdogs.info/bp/press/pressa-1.htm)

[esquire]

Just ordered mine. When does the second batch ship out?

[CMA Death Adder]

Just ordered mine. When does the second batch ship out?

Thanks, we appreciate your order. :)

Your order will very likely be shipped on Monday. Watch for the e-mail confirmation.

[googlefest1]

Spoiler alert!!!



I know there is another thread but no one seems to pay attention to it any more so im trying to see if a new one would work

So im stuck and looking for help. I just escaped from being married to the ugly native and was rescued by the blue digging dragon that says master help me. I have travesed the entire map twice and spoke to every one and cant find what to do next. Can any one help me.

i have only the areas in the uncrossable terain to visit and i cant get to them.

[CMA Death Adder]

Spoiler alert!!!

It couldn't have been too much of a spoiler, if you got stuck. ;)


I know there is another thread but no one seems to pay attention to it any more

Yeah... mayhaps someone will remedy that tragedy.


I just escaped from being married to the ugly native and was rescued by the blue digging dragon that says master help me. I have travesed the entire map twice and spoke to every one and cant find what to do next. Can any one help me.

The prince needs to take care of some unfinished business in the Capital. Do you recall the jeweler that swindled him? Well, it's time for some payback. Perhaps the wooden mallet you picked up from the native village could be of some use...


i have only the areas in the uncrossable terain to visit and i cant get to them.

It's not the proper time, just yet.

[googlefest1]

thanks for the response

ive been all over that town even after you message- i didnt think that ((thing)) in the jewelry shop was what it ended up to be

is no one playing this game?

is no one interested in that $25 bounty on game faqs for the walkthough? I don't care for the bounty but i wish someone would post a walkthrough The characters don't give out to much info.

[fishsandwich]

is no one playing this game?

I would LOVE to play this game but it's not compatible with my Sega. It's just sitting on a shelf for right now.

[bangtango]

thanks for the response

ive been all over that town even after you message- i didnt think that ((thing)) in the jewelry shop was what it ended up to be

is no one playing this game?

is no one interested in that $25 bounty on game faqs for the walkthough? I don't care for the bounty but i wish someone would post a walkthrough The characters don't give out to much info.

Damn, that's about half the price of the game. I'd finish it if I had it.

[Kobra]

I´m stuck at the same place as googlefest1 were, but that little "thing" about the jeweler shop did not help me at all. I know that there are two "missions" that i have not completed yet - I have not obtained the Lupi healing dragon, and i have not succeded in making the mysterius flower grow in the Garden of Wonders.

Can someone tell me if these two missions is side quests or are they optional?, because im stuck in both of them.

[VACRMH]

Hate to bump such an old topic, but with no FAQ available I thought I should keep my question in a topic like this.

Anyways... spoilers kinda...

I got to the top of Skull Mountain (? I think that's what it's called) beat the boss and went outside and grabbed the sun charm. Then rocks start falling and I can't seem to figure out what to do before i'm swallowed up by rocks. Any help?

[Kobra]

Trust me, you are not the only one who need a walkthrough for this game.

You have to jump off the cliff in the lower left corner of the screen, as far as i remember. Simply just walk out into the air, and you will land on the ground below. I got the same problem back then.

[Soviet Conscript]

I´m stuck at the same place as googlefest1 were, but that little "thing" about the jeweler shop did not help me at all. I know that there are two "missions" that i have not completed yet - I have not obtained the Lupi healing dragon, and i have not succeded in making the mysterius flower grow in the Garden of Wonders.

Can someone tell me if these two missions is side quests or are they optional?, because im stuck in both of them :p

i think you need to do them. i think you get gems to complete the sun insturment thing when you do them....of course since this is a several month old thread i assume you have figured this out by now.

my question is what do you do after you chase the cat minister away and free the king. i'm supposed to go to the fog forrest and talk to shara but wheres the fog forest and how do i get there?

[CMA Death Adder]

I have not obtained the Lupi healing dragon

Lupi is in the Fog Forest. The prince must fight with Medusa to free him.


and i have not succeded in making the mysterius flower grow in the Garden of Wonders.

As the fairies in the Garden of Wonder will tell him, the prince must locate a special tool in order to make the flower bloom. Who has this tool? Someone who is hidden away somewhere within the Garden of Wonder. Find this someone, and you'll be one step closer. The fairies will give you clues...


my question is what do you do after you chase the cat minister away and free the king. i'm supposed to go to the fog forrest and talk to shara but wheres the fog forest and how do i get there?

The Fog Forest is where the tree people live. You remember those sap(ling)s, don't you? :)

[suppafly]

Hey. I didnt know that the `price I paid for beggar prince included tips from the staff that brought us this great game...:D

[goldenaxeboy]

Sorry to bring this topic back from the dead but I wanted everyone to know I ordered my copy a couple of months back.

[bangtango]

Now completely sold out, says the Beggar Prince web site, for the benefit of people who haven't been around here the past 5-6 months.

[carlcarlson]

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to do this, but I've got an extra copy that I would sell if anyone missed out on the second run. It is a great game and should be enjoyed by any retro rpg fan.

[Lemmi_Is_God]

well its gonna be available again soon
if you missed it the first time now is your chance, that way you wont have to pay the $55+ that its been getting on ebay

http://www.beggarprince.com/

[Soviet Conscript]

woooo, i already beat the game but i'm glad its successful enough for anouther run.

[fishsandwich]

well its gonna be available again soon
if you missed it the first time now is your chance, that way you wont have to pay the $55+ that its been getting on ebay

http://www.beggarprince.com/

Do you know if it will finally be compatible with the X'Eye and CDX?

[Lemmi_Is_God]

Do you know if it will finally be compatible with the X'Eye and CDX?

i dont think any new coding is being done, which i think is whats needed to get complete compatability

sounds like he is just making more carts to sell, maybe he will pop in here at sometime and answer your question
or you could ask over at the sega-16.com forums

[suppafly]

well its gonna be available again soon
if you missed it the first time now is your chance, that way you wont have to pay the $55+ that its been getting on ebay

http://www.beggarprince.com/


I love to see more copies of that game in the market. I dont like it when collectors say that they dont want more copies in the market because the price on ebay might drop...i care more about the genesis and maybe making new genesis players all over the world..

[Lemmi_Is_God]

I love to see more copies of that game in the market. I dont like it when collectors say that they dont want more copies in the market because the price on ebay might drop...i care more about the genesis and maybe making new genesis players all over the world..

exactly, its not like even 2000 games made would flood the market, thats still a very small number of games compaired to other games

he said he has demand of over 100 carts so far so he is looking to make another 300 if the interest is high so thats only 1200

[coreycorey2000]

I thought this was supposed to be limited quantities. It seems that isn't the case. Why did I bother to preorder?

[rcgamer]

I thought this was supposed to be limited quantities. It seems that isn't the case. Why did I bother to preorder?

For the same reason you preorder anything else, you wanted to be the first to have it.

[Barbarianoutkast85]

Sounds swell keep us posted.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Don't you wish bigger game companies reprinted games on demand more often? I wouldn't complain.

[Moo Cow]

Don't you wish bigger game companies reprinted games on demand more often? I wouldn't complain.

I've been wondering why in the fuck game companies don't reprint titles in demand on current systems.

[Barbarianoutkast85]

Does anyone know how long the delay is going to be before orders will be taken?

[anagrama]

I thought this was supposed to be limited quantities. It seems that isn't the case. Why did I bother to preorder?

They've said all along that further pressings would be made if there was still demand for it.

[roushimsx]

I thought this was supposed to be limited quantities. It seems that isn't the case.

Unless they're running off a few thousand more copies, I'd say it's still pretty damn limited.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Unless they're running off a few thousand more copies, I'd say it's still pretty damn limited.

Yeah, since this is printing on demand, it costs a bit more than your standard Genny game. Had Death Adder printed 10,000 copies, it would've been cheaper, but there was no guarantee all copies would be sold. Making short runs like this means there's not that much chance of him losing money.

It sucks for the buyers (in the financial sense) but it ensures he doesn't go bankrupt.

[zikuta]

Bad news...

I dont like reprintings, I love first editions.

First & Second Batch games are the same, no differences.

They dont even numbered the units. 13/600 would be lovely, sorry about my awful "engrish".

[hbkprm]

they need to sell the rights of the game to a major company so it can be on a modern system

[CosmicMonkey]

they need to sell the rights of the game to a major company so it can be on a modern system

But this was an unlicensed Megadrive game; I really can't see it appearing on the Virtual Console or whatever.

Have they changed the site yet to point out this doesn't work on Wondermegas etc?

[Barbarianoutkast85]

Any more news on when I can order the game?

[asbury6647]

let me know when it happens.

[rcgamer]

YOu can go here http://www.beggarprince.com/ and contact them to put you on the mailing list for when it is available.

[Cornelius]

Get while the gettin' is good!

[zektor]

Got the email too :)

[GrandAmChandler]

Get while the gettin' is good!

We don't need two Beggar Prince threads, please remember to search before posting. I merged the threads. Also please be more specific to what you mean.

-GAC-

[CMA Death Adder]

Hello.

Now, as of October 9th, 2007, we are taking pre-orders for the third production run of Beggar Prince! Orders will begin shipping to customers in November, 2007. To learn the full details of the third production run, please read this article (http://www.sega-16.com/Beggar%20Prince-%20Third%20Times%20the%20Charm.php).

Visit beggarprince.com (http://www.beggarprince.com/) to place your order directly.

Thanks everyone for your continued interest, support and dedication. Never let dreams die!

[suppafly]

Hello.

Now, as of October 9th, 2007, we are taking pre-orders for the third production run of Beggar Prince! Orders will begin shipping to customers in November, 2007. To learn the full details of the third production run, please read this article (http://www.sega-16.com/Beggar%20Prince-%20Third%20Times%20the%20Charm.php).

Visit beggarprince.com (http://www.beggarprince.com/) to place your order directly.

Thanks everyone for your continued interest, support and dedication. Never let dreams die!

Thanks for keeping the Genesis Alive. I hope to see many, many successful releases from you in the future!

[Dark_Sol]

Count me in!

[Cornelius]

Any word on how big this last production run is/will be? Can't seem to find that info.

[fishsandwich]

Any word on how big this last production run is/will be? Can't seem to find that info.


Looks to be 900 this time around. I like the new box art although I didn't think the old art was that bad.

[drewbrim]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fishsandwich
Do you know if it will finally be compatible with the X'Eye and CDX?

i dont think any new coding is being done, which i think is whats needed to get complete compatability

sounds like he is just making more carts to sell, maybe he will pop in here at sometime and answer your question
or you could ask over at the sega-16.com forums


From the website:

"Furthermore, it will now save and load perfectly on a Genesis 32X, Sega CD, Sega CDX, JVC X'Eye, and Pioneer Laseractive. Finally, you can run the game without problems, no matter what set up you have. "

[carlcarlson]

whoa that new cover art is way better. I kinda want another one now. I think the old cover art was fine, and had the feel of old genesis rpgs, but this new stuff is alot better. It's nice that we'll be able to tell who has the original runs and who has a later version as well.

[VACRMH]

Well that sucks.

The only reason I have a spare genny around was to play my first run copy, and now this new run plays on the CDX.

Bah :(

[kainemaxwell]

Hello.

Now, as of October 9th, 2007, we are taking pre-orders for the third production run of Beggar Prince! Orders will begin shipping to customers in November, 2007. To learn the full details of the third production run, please read this article (http://www.sega-16.com/Beggar%20Prince-%20Third%20Times%20the%20Charm.php).

Visit beggarprince.com (http://www.beggarprince.com/) to place your order directly.

Thanks everyone for your continued interest, support and dedication. Never let dreams die!

I like the old-school Genesis game design for the box art!

[Daria]

Son of a bitch I'm buying it again. :P