DS VS. PSP - Ownage

[njiska]

I was just wondering, now that we're approaching the 1 year aniversary of the DS and the PSP (in Japan) and in an attempt to see how the battle is going i'm curious what size collections the PSP and DS owners have built up.

I myself am DS only but i've got a good 14 Games for it.

Metroid Prime Hunters (but it's a pack in so i don't count it)
Super Mario 64 DS
Feel the Magic
Polarium
Nanostray
Kirby's Canvase Curse
Meteos
Trace Memory
Nintendogs: Dashaud and Friends
Bomberman
Castlevania
Metroid Prime Pinball
Trauma Centre: Under the Knife
Phoneix Wright: Ace Attorney
Lost in Blue

I had Ridge Racer but i got rid of it because i wasn't impressed.

To make matter's worse i'm gonna be picking up Mario Kart DS and Sonic Rush this week.

So how about the rest of you? How big is your collection?

[snes_collector]

Polarium
Meteos
Metroid Prime Hunter: First Hunt
Wario Ware: Touched!

That list should double at Christmas

[ClubNinja]

Well, I have both, enjoy both, but prefer the DS. I have 10 PSP games and 7 DS games. The difference is that there are only maybe two PSP games I'd still want that are presently available, yet there are about 10 DS games out already that I'd like to pick up.

[NE146]

I definitely have more DS titles than I do PSP.. but then again the PSP can do a bit more if you know what I'm saying.. *cough*. :evil:

[CYRiX]

From your damn avatar you probably put porn on your psp.

[D-Lite]

From your damn avatar you probably put porn on your psp.
That is one of the few things it's good for at the moment.

DS>>>>>>>>>>>>>PSP right now at least

I have about 15 games for the DS and the best so far is probably Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan

[le geek]

I have a DS and ONE game, Feel the Magic XX/XY.
I had The Urbs, Polarium, SMB64DS, Yoshi, and Sprung but I sold 'em... there are about 11 games I'd be interested in picking up at some point...

No PSP, but I'd be interested if they were cheaper. There are only 4 games I'd interested in at the moment...

Cheers,
Ben

[njiska]

I have a DS and ONE game, Feel the Magic XX/XY.
I had The Urbs, Polarium, SMB64DS, Yoshi, and Sprung but I sold 'em... there are about 11 games I'd be interested in picking up at some point...

No PSP, but I'd be interested if they were cheaper. There are only 4 games I'd interested in at the moment...

Cheers,
Ben

Well that's a damn good choice to keep.

[stuffedmonkey]

I don't ahve either at this point, but if I went out to buy one it would be a DS - no question. Half the price and better games - what's not to like?

[Arkaign]

About the only thing they have in common is they're both portable.

DS has better games, and probably will stay that way .. Nintendo has been king of handheld gaming for what .. 15 years?

PSP is amazingly cool, mp3/movie/video/web/pics/mods, even some emu projects that look promising. And the screen is just beautiful.

They're just too different to really be true competitors for each other.

[philosophyst]

I love my DS! I currently have 28 titles for it plus the Metroid demo cartridge. Looking forward to Mario Kart and Animal Crossing. I hope I can get that USB Wi-Fi thing soon.

[PDorr3]

14 DS games not including the MP:H demo. I am getting Mario kart and sonic rush, and plan on getting a few more already released titles as well.

I only have 4 psp games....but I plan on increasing that by a few by xmas.

[stressboy]

I do not have a DS, and only have 4 PSP games. I would have more but my wife has not been too willing to let me spend money on more games.

[n8littlefield]

We have 2 DS's (his and hers). I think we have 7 games plus the Metroid demo (plus several GBA games). I love the system, I doubt I'll bother with a PSP unless the game selection really improves for it.

[hezeuschrist]

Just a DS, only 5 games. That number would be much larger if the 360 weren't so close to launch.

[sharp]

DS with the following games:
Advance Wars Dual Strike
Castlevania
Meteos
Pac-Pix
Project Rub
Super Mario 64 DS (only game I really don't like)
Zoo Keeper

and Metroid Demo and store demo from Yoshi Touch & Go.

I want to pick some more today, first want to check how Bubble Bobble Revolution plays if some stores get it. There is only one thing I don't like about he system and that's the huge pricegap between Europe and the USA for games.

[squidblatt]

Nintendogs Chiuhhauauau and friends
Meteos
Zoo Keeper
Lost in Blue
Trauma Center
Castlevania

And many more that I want. The next game I get might be Nanostray or Advance Wars. Maybe both.

The PSP's games aren't tempting enough to get me to shell out the money, and I don't care about its other features. It's nice hardware, but useless to me.

[NE146]

From your damn avatar you probably put porn on your psp.

Close!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/b2stoys/ph33r.jpg

:D

[pacmanhat]

I have both systems...I'm pretty sure I have 13 DS games and 4 PSP games. I love both systems, though...it's just that the DS has gotten so many better (and cheaper) titles. There's a lot on my wishlist for both systems still, though.

[njiska]

From your damn avatar you probably put porn on your psp.

Close!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/b2stoys/ph33r.jpg

:D

Let me be the first to say, "You magnificant bastard." 4xDK way to go.

[slip81]

I have only the DS with two games, Trauma Center: Under the Knife and Nintendogs Best Friends. But there are easily 20 games that I really want for the system, while the only game I want for the PSP is the new GTA.

I love the DS, and I'll probably get a PSP as well, but not untill I can get the system along with GTA for under $150. So it'll be a long while.

[joshnickerson]

Lord, let's see...

Feel The Magic
Kirby Canvas Curse
Nintendogs
Phoenix Wright
Polarium
Super Mario 64 DS
Trace Memory
Trauma Center
Zoo Keeper

And there's about a dozen or so games still on my radar, released and unreleased. I'm just too much of a cheap bastard to buy them all! *L*

[Arkaign]

When $99 new-model DS is available, I'm first in line ;)

[boatofcar]

I've got a PSP, and the sheer fact that it will make me upgrade my firmware will keep me from buying any more than the one game I have for it (THPS). I dunno, maybe I'll pick up Lumines once it goes GH.

I will buy a DS Mario Kart bundle on launch. Then I will buy Animal Crossing. Then I will be happy.

From a gaming standpoint, DS>PSP in my book, outside of NES emulation. That's all the PSP is to me at this point.

[Famidrive-16]

Super Mario 64
Kirby: Canvas Curse
WarioWare Touched
Trauma Center

I'll probably pick up Castlevania or Phoenix next week...

[Rogmeister]

I don't have a PSP (don't plan to get one either) and I only bought my DS 6 days ago so obviously my collection of games for it is small so far...3 titles at this point...

Nintendogs: Dachshund & Friends
Super Mario 64 DS
Zoo Keeper

I do plan to get more, of course. I know I'll be getting the DS Animal Crossing next month but have an open mind otherwise.

[classicb]

I'm still waiting on the PSP I think it almost has enough games that I want for me to get it but the games are also more money so that's also kind of a road block.

DS wise I'm loving it (that's a big N WiFi joke)

I've got

Meteos
Advance Wars Duel Strike
Metroid Pinball
Nanostray
Zoo Keeper
Trace memory
Kirby Canvas Curse
Polarium
Wario Ware Touched
Super Mario 64 DS
Feel The Magic
Puyo Pop Fever
MP:H Demo

With about five more that I plan on buying soon. Sorry no 360 for me too many other great games out or coming out.

[djbeatmongrel]

Well i'd like to be interested in the psp *got muhself a DS* but there isnt much going for it except for emulation.

heres my reasons for not liking:
-Costs too much for a portable
-Games cost more than ds ones
-most of the games already have superior counterparts on home consoles
-theres little to no innovative games

the DS is the inverse when it comes to these points
-fair price
-games cost less
-many titles can not be acquired on a home console
-lots of fresh games

not listing my GBA titles (considering i bought them when i got the DS) here is my DS collection:

Feel the Magic: XY/XX
Lost in Blue
Meteos
Metroid Prime Pinball
Mr. Driller Drill Spirits
Nanostray
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Ping Pals
Puyo Pop Fever
Retro Atari Classics
Space Invaders Revolution
Trace Memory
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Zoo Keeper

[Damion]

Well lets see, my Ds collection just caught up with my PSP collection.

PSP

Darkstalkers
Ridge Racer
Metal Gear Ac!d
Coded Arms
Untold Legends
Hot Shots Golf
Lumines
Mercury
Wipeout Pure
and another one I can't think of right now.

DS

Advanced Wars DS
Trace Memory
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow
Super Mario DS
Yoshi touch and go!
Warioware Twisted (I think)
Polarium
Nintendogs
Feel the Magic: XY/XX

but yeah. I love'em both but right now all I can see that coming out that I care for is on the DS.

[Enixis]

Currently have 14 PSP games:

Ridge Racers (RC2)
Popolocrois Montagani (RC2)
Tales of Eternia (RC2)
Lumines (RC1)
Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade (RC1)
Wipeout Pure (RC1)
Metal Gear AC!D (RC1)
Astonishia Story (w/ Illustration book) (Sealed) (RC3)
Tenchu Shinobi Taizen (w/ Premium Disc) (Sealed) (RC3)
Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition (RC1)
Death Jr. (RC1)
Coded Arms (RC1)
Twelve: Sengoku Fuushinden (Sealed) (RC2)
Virtua Tennis: World Tour (Sealed) (RC2 EUR)

More to follow.

[roushimsx]

Just two games for DS:

Nintendogs Dachshund and Friends
Nanostray (which was a mistake, I admit)

I'd like to get Trauma Center eventually, but I doubt I'd ever find the time to play it.

[jdc]

I have a PSP. I had fully intended to do a complete collection and started out well. At one point I owned 16 games for it. I looked at all of the games that I had completed. Many, like MediEvil, had no replay value and I decided to scrap the collecting idea and trade them in while they had decent value. I now keep games like Lumines and HotShots and trade those with no replay.

The DS is calling my name. I like the lower retail prices of the games and it looks like a very strong system to own. I've never seen one in action. My question is....does the image look as crisp and clean as a PSP? I had 2 GBAs and wasn't impressed enough by the image quality and lack of backlighting to keep them around.

[ThirdEyeSharingan]

I have both a DS and PSP. Right now I spend a lot more time playing with my DS. Games like Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Super Princess Peach, Jump Superstars and Trauma Center Under the Knife are excellent. I do use my PSP, but more for watching movies. Right now the DS rules, but the PSP has some interesting upcoming titles. Rockman X Irregular Hunter, Exit, Karakuri and the Talkman language toy all look promising.

[kevin_psx]

When does the DS Player come out - so I can play it on full-screen?

[Mayhem]

DS >> PSP at the moment. I have 6 PSP games and at least 20 DS titles. No contest which I'm finding more fun to play.

[Enixis]

Yea the DS definitely has better games at the moment. I might pick one up before christmas.

[captain nintendo]

Just a DS, only 5 games. That number would be much larger if the 360 weren't so close to launch.


Bingo !

Same number of games and the metroid demo that came with it.

I would probably own another 10 games if I had not paid off my 360 some games and accesories.

The DS and the game selection have made me a handheld believer.

I dont own a PSP yet, but would like to. Its cool and you can do so many things with it.

The game selection isnt as good as the DS (IMO), But I am sure it will get there. *shrugs*

[xaer0knight]

i have 4 DS games now. Castlevania DS, SMB64DS, Nanospray, and Polarium.... Nanospray and Castlevania were the reasons i picked the system, i would like to get more but my N64 is getting no attention.

IMO PSP is just to expensive and hearing how arrogant the creator about its flaws and saying that no one should questions its design when it comes to the X button Sticking and its PSP disc shotting out...

[MuppetMaster]

Well I ditched the PSP in favor of the DS and now have the following games:

Nanostray
Trauma Center
Phoenix Wright
Feel the Magic
Metroid pinball
Harry Potter:Goblet of Fire
Pac n Roll-JP
Star Wars Episode 3-JP
Lost in Blue
Zoo Keeper
Advance Wars DS
Castlevania DOS
Rayman DS
Ultimate Spiderman
MP demo


and I preordered Bubble Booble Revolution ( will release on the 24th JP).

More quality titles coming as well! Mario Kart, Viewtiful Joe, Bust a move!

[DDCecil]

I've had my DS for about a month now. Even though I've handled it very carefully, the outside is getting marked up and my screens are now getting some small scratches. I have 6 games for it:

Castlevania: DoS - Already through my 3rd time through it and I'm not even bored of it yet!

Super Mario 64 DS - I'm enjoying playing this on here than I ever did on the 64.

Feel the Magic XY/XX - Awesome, and I can't wait for the sequel in Feburary.

I also have:

Polarium
Atari Retro DS
Yu-gi-oh: Nightmare Troubadour

I don't really care for the last 3 games, but the first 3, WOW. I do want to pick up a couple of imports (Jump Superstars, Ganbare Goemon, and Osu! T-whatever). I also want to get Mario Kart DS, Phoenix Wright, and Trauma Center pretty soon.

The PSP, well, I'll get one, one of these days.

[kedawa]

I've only got three games for my DS, but I'm very happy with it.

Advance Wars Dual Strike
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow
Meteos

I was thinking about picking up a PSP at launch, but I'm glad I didn't. There isn't a single game released for it yet that I want to play, and the GP2X is much better suited to homebrew and emulation than the PSP anyway.

[Whiskers the Wonder Cat]

All DS needs is a brand new Pokemon game. And whoosh, the % of DS and that game sold will go through the roof.

They should release like a limited edition Pokemon DS in the U.S. That will do extremely well. Especially around the Holidays.

[Super Mario Fan]

Mine goes to the DS. I've had it since launch, and I took a few months off gaming, but this is sucking me back in.

I don't have that many games for it, becasue I just wasn't feeling games for a while. But, I do have:

Super Mario 64 DS
Warioware Touched!
Yoshi's Touch and Go
Spiderman 2
Kirby's Canvas Curse

Kirby's Canvas Curse was the last video game I bought, and this was back in June! But Mario Kart DS will be my next purchase, along with the dongle off of Nintendo.com's Store. I also have that Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt Demo, and the Twilight Princess preview card. Spiderman 2 is still in it's cellophane wrapper, and it came with the system when I bought it!

[drummy]

I have a DS, and I have the teal one with the Nintendogs: Best Friends pack-in. I don't like it too much, but I have Jump! Superstars and Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan, and Super Mario 64 DS coming into my possession. I also plan on getting Mario Kart DS, SBK: Snowboard Kids, and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time in the very near future, and possibly a USB Wifi Connector; and if I get one, then I'm getting the new Animal Crossing game that will be released. I am also trying to get Daigasso! Band Brothers, as well as the GBA expansion cart with the extra songs, as I heard the game rocks. Also, some good games are coming out in Japan in the next year that I will probably import as the US might not see these releases. Daigasso! Band Brothers was even given a US name (Jam with the Band) and a possible US release, but that was when the DS was launched here in the US, and there is no word of Jam With the Band coming out here. The PSP looks cool and powerful, but as a lot of other people are pointing out, the game selection is a bit weak, even with imports. I also hear it has bad loading times, which turns me off. However, Liberty City Stories definitely looks cool, but since I never take my portables out of my room anyways, I might as well satisfy my need to plaY GTA on the PS2 or Xbox.

[Julio III]

My DS games in the order that I bought them:

Project Rub
Warioware: Touched!
Sprung
Electroplankton
Polarium
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith
Another Code: Two Memories
Meteos
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan

and there's a whole list of games out now that I plan on getting sometime (Zoo Keeper, Lost In Blue, Phoenix Wright, Trauma Centre etc)

[mmpoole8]

I have a DS with the following games:

Advance Wars Dual Strike
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow
Diagasso! Band Brothers
Feel the Magic
Kirby Canvas Curse
Meteos
Nintendos Chihuahua & Friends
Phoenix Wright
Polarium
Super Mario 64
Trauma Center
WarioWare Touched
Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare in Troubadour
Yoshi Touch & Go

Looking to pick up Mario Cart and Animal Crossing and maybe Sonic and Snowboard Kids in the next month.

[RedHerring]

DS :

Phoenix Wright
Trauma Center
Lost in Blue
Mario 64
Nintendogs
Trace Memory
Polarium
Kirby
Ossu!Tatakae!Ouendan!
Advance Wars
Meteos
Wario Ware
Castlevania

PSP :

Wipeout
Lumines
Metal Gear Acid
Taiko no Tatsujin
Grand Theft Auto
Mercury
Ape Escape
Untold Legends
Intelligent License

[stonecutter]

In my house we have 2 DS systems, and about 8 games, no PSP.

This probably isn't the right place for this statement, but after everything this last week with Sony, and their root kit installs, I hope you will all seriously consider not buying Sony products. I know its tough with video games, but look at what they did to their loyal consumers. Thats not right.

[Sylentwulf]

I only have a DS which was based solely on price point of the system and games (It was birthday last year).

Frankly, I regret it. I would have rather had the 2 people pool their money together and get me a PSP with no games instead.

[THATinkjar]

I only have a DS which was based solely on price point of the system and games (It was birthday last year).

Frankly, I regret it. I would have rather had the 2 people pool their money together and get me a PSP with no games instead.

What games have you been playing? Perhaps we can recommend some you might enjoy, and help you feel better about buying a Nintendo DS?

[njiska]

I only have a DS which was based solely on price point of the system and games (It was birthday last year).

Frankly, I regret it. I would have rather had the 2 people pool their money together and get me a PSP with no games instead.

What games have you been playing? Perhaps we can recommend some you might enjoy, and help you feel better about buying a Nintendo DS?

Hell Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow alone is worth the price of admission.

[dbiersdorf]

I have had my DS since launch and love it, and recently picked up a PSP. Although my Micro probably gets the most used, I enjoy all three portables (well all four if you count my N-Gage). I have a lot of PSP games to catch up on, so yeah, my PSP list is very bare bones.

Nintendo DS titles -

Ashpahlt Urban GT (although I'll sell it the day a better racer hits the market)
Feel the Magix XX/XY
Kirby Canvus Curse
Lost in Blue (yet such a horrible game I might sell)
Meteos
Nanostray
Nintendogs: Lab and Friends
Pac 'n Roll (best DS game to date right here folks)
Pac-Pix
Puyo Pop Fever (will sell when number 2 hits the market though)
Rayman DS
Sprung (underrated)
Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith
Super Mario 64 DS
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Wario Ware Touched!
Yoshi Touch & Go
Zoo Tycoon

TOTAL - 18 games

These are the DS games I plan on picking up however,

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (maybe, don't have much interest in these games)
Pheonix Wright: Ace Attorney
Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Viewtiful Joe: Double Trouble
Metroid Prime Pinball
Dig Dug: Digging Strike (maybe..)

Sony PSP titles -

Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (portable GOTY.. that is until Mario Kart)
Twisted Metal: Head-On

TOTAL - 2 games

Some PSP games I hope to get soon,

Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee
Ape Escape on the Loose (pending in actually)
Death Jr.
Namco Museum Battle Collection
Virtua Tennis World Tour
SOCOM: US Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo
Star Wars Battle Front II
Burnout Legends
MediEvil Ressurection (maybe)

I would never have a PSP had I not got one with three games for $120, the deal was great so I couldn't pass it up. However I would have never paid the retail $250. Way too much for a handheld, and I feel sorry for the people who did.

[Sylentwulf]

What games have you been playing? Perhaps we can recommend some you might enjoy, and help you feel better about buying a Nintendo DS?

Feel the magic xx/xy - Great game, I'll get the sequel. Bit short maybe. Never could figure out how to really get the unlockables.

Driller Spirits - Great game, could have used some more modes, or expand the modes it had. No complaints here

Meteos - OK game, more repetitive and kinda too "lucky" for my tastes. Unlockables are fun, getting 25 soul and time thingies is not fun.

Yoshi touch n go - horrible
Sprung - Well, I got what I paid for, and what I expected.
Mario 64 - It's mario 64? This doesn't count as an original game

Mario Kart - I was HORRIBLY let down with the gba version, I doubt I'll get the DS version

Wario Touched - Yeah, it's got a touch screen, I GET IT. NEXT?!

Metroid - For a pack in demo, you'd think they would release it SOMETIME.

Castlevania - I have no doubt I will love this game when I pick it up.

Nintendogs - no thanx.
Trauma Center - I'm sure will follow feel the magic when I get it, I'll like it, a bit short, solid game.
Viewtiful Joe, Mario & Luigi, Advanced wars - all sequels to games I REALLY didn't like.


If you can honestly suggest something else I'd be interested in, feel free :)

[Super Mario Fan]

What games have you been playing? Perhaps we can recommend some you might enjoy, and help you feel better about buying a Nintendo DS?

Feel the magic xx/xy - Great game, I'll get the sequel. Bit short maybe. Never could figure out how to really get the unlockables.

Driller Spirits - Great game, could have used some more modes, or expand the modes it had. No complaints here

Meteos - OK game, more repetitive and kinda too "lucky" for my tastes. Unlockables are fun, getting 25 soul and time thingies is not fun.

Yoshi touch n go - horrible
Sprung - Well, I got what I paid for, and what I expected.
Mario 64 - It's mario 64? This doesn't count as an original game

Mario Kart - I was HORRIBLY let down with the gba version, I doubt I'll get the DS version

Wario Touched - Yeah, it's got a touch screen, I GET IT. NEXT?!

Metroid - For a pack in demo, you'd think they would release it SOMETIME.

Castlevania - I have no doubt I will love this game when I pick it up.

Nintendogs - no thanx.
Trauma Center - I'm sure will follow feel the magic when I get it, I'll like it, a bit short, solid game.
Viewtiful Joe, Mario & Luigi, Advanced wars - all sequels to games I REALLY didn't like.


If you can honestly suggest something else I'd be interested in, feel free :)


II'm not sure if it would tickle your fancy, but were you a fan of Animal Crossing on the Gamecube? I know a lot of people were, and the one for the DS just keeps on looking better and better. It seems to retain a lot of the old stuff (NES games aside) and it looks like it's going to take the series up to the next step. Online play is going to be killer. I think that if you only played one game on the DS, this one should be it. I think that this game alone is worth the price of a DS. This is going to be the only game I purchase between now and when Twilight Princess comes out. I don't doubt for a second that it's going to keep me busy for months. I think all DS owners should purchase this game.

[sharkbates]

Have 2 DS', just picked up a second one this weekend with the Target $99 sale.

Only interested in the PSP for emulation and $250 is still too steep for that.

Games for the DS:

Nintendogs:Chihuahua
Nintendogs:Dachshund
Meteos
Zookeeper
Puyo Pop
Mr Driller
Wario Ware
Mario Kart
Castlevania
Trauma Center
Trace Memory
Atari Retro
Kirby Canvas Curse

Looking forward to:

Animal Crossing
Metriod Pinball
Sonic Rush
Phoenix Wright

Favorites include:

Trauma Center
Castlevania
Mario Kart
Meteos

Cant wait to get my wife involved with some head2head Mario Kart and puzzle play, ie Meteos/Zookeeper

Love the DS. :D :D :D

[Ulticron]

Let's see DS:
Mario 64 DS
Polarium
Retro Atari

I won't be buying any games for anything till January, but right now Mario Kart, Sonic Dash, and that new 2D Mario are on the must get list.

Nothing for the PSP, not even the unit itself. Originally I had no plans of getting it but I've heard they're going to put out Mega Man Legends for it, and a remix of the original Mega Man. Being the insane fan of MM I am that means I'll have to eventually get one. First I'll buy the games though and then wait till the PSP goes in the bargin bins.

[Teknik_SE-R]

From your damn avatar you probably put porn on your psp.

Close!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/b2stoys/ph33r.jpg

:D

sorry to bring up an old thread but I have been interested in buying one of these systems for a while... that and I just get a kick out of this every time the above quote happens. Its the same reaction every time too! LOL I also see NE146's avatar has changed for the holiday season!!!

as for the vs. argument. I have a friend that has a ds and one with a psp (I couldn't commit to either cuz of money and I wasn't able to decide at first)

one friend that has a psp doesn't have a single game... can't afford it. my firend with the DS bought two games the day he got it.

from what I've seen, the PSP is exactly what it says it is, a playstation portable. I love my ps2, but i love my gamecube more, simply befcause the games are more fun imo.

from playing both systems, I must say the ds is more appealing. i was wary of the gimmicky setup, but I now see that it it has its uses, and i congratulate nintendo for once again sticking their necks out and trying something new.

the library of games for the DS just kicks its competitors ass too, and i personally don't see any point to the extra features of the psp.

The movie format: you can't watch the movies except on the psp's tiny screen whoop dee doo! and the mp3 playback: no thank you, I will go with my dedicated 60 gig ipod for that.

[XxMe2NiKxX]

I have 19 DS games and 1 PSP game (not counting 600 ROMs). If the PSP didn't have emulation, I would hate it. Its retail games are, in my opinion, horrible, with the exception of the amazingly well done Wipeout Pure.

On the other hand, the DS has amazing retail games, and Mario Kart DS, in my opinion, is the best game to come out this year, and probably my favourite Mario Kart of all time.

[SnappleMan]

Unfortunately, I'm going to be forced to buy a PSP as soon as Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth is released in Japan.

Although, I do live with the tri-Ace Superfan (Aussie2b if any of you know her), so she'll probably end up buying both the game and the system! :D

[Snapple]

Whoa.

I don't know whether to be more surprised that there's someone else with a similar board name to mine, or that your avatar appears to be the OxyClean guy. Why oh why did it have to be the OxyClean guy?



Um, on topic. At first I hated the idea of the DS. Inferior technology to the PSP with some shallow bells and whistles added like a blow microphone and a styllus. But I have come full circle. I don't even play my PSP anymore. The DS I've come to realize is a much more appropriate device for handheld gaming. Handheld gaming should be about simple fun that you can pick up or put down at any time. With the PSP, it's like... I've played all this stuff on my PS2. I don't need a small screen version, too.

[petewhitley]

I love all these luddites who come up and say ridiculous stuff like "handheld gaming should be simple". Says who? I want to take a portable anywhere I please and play games that are just as intricate and detailed as those I play on the big screen at home. Trust me, my brain can handle the pressure of managing six buttons on the PSP while I'm staying at the Marriot. Then there's the classic "who wants a PSP to play music/movies/etc. when I've got an iPod/DVD portable/etc." Quite a few people obviously do, and if you don't, don't use those features. It's asinine to pass on a portable because it has extra features.

I'll quit now. Everyone here knows I prefer my PSP to my girl's DS. She loves that little doggie shit with N64-era textures. I don't. To each his/her own.

[SnappleMan]

Textures over gameplay and selection. Seems to be a popular trend among American gamers. As long as a system can produce a high polygon count it's worth keeping.

I don't own either a DS or a PSP, I think they're both gimmicky and too expensive. But, the PSP seems to be less about gaming and more about overall digital entertainment. In that regard it fails as a portable PS2, and also fails are a portable gaming system because the selection of games it has is not very good.

Looking at the PSP in terms of what it is, it fails all around. It's not a very good game system (poor selection of games, and that big beautiful screen doesn't handle movement very well). It's not a very good entertainment center with its limited media and short battery life, and the overall hardware is flawed and is prone to many problems.

The DS suffers from many of its own problems, but I think it's a much better value than the PSP. in the end both are a ripoff.

Ofcourse, I still play my GBC and think that's great, so to each his own indeed.

[classicb]

Ofcourse, I still play my GBC and think that's great, so to each his own indeed.

well if you're going to go back that far I'd rather have a NGPC The GBC was probably the worst entry in the Gameboy line of systems but if you love the games at least play them on a GBASP.

oops I got off track the DS owns the PSP ... I mean the PSP owns the DS... I mean the N-Gage owns them both LOL no really I love my N-Gage and I love debating video game systems on the internet its so super duper fun.

[SnappleMan]

Well, I'd agree with what you said about the GBC if I didn't prove myself wrong of that idea a long time ago. I only really play it for one game (Star Ocean : Blue Sphere) and the GBA/SP do not play it perfectly. So the GBC is a required piece of equipment.

I also have a couple of NGPC's and I think that right there is the single best handheld ever created! Followed by the Turbo Express!

[petewhitley]

I don't own either a DS or a PSP, I think they're both gimmicky and too expensive. But, the PSP seems to be less about gaming and more about overall digital entertainment. In that regard it fails as a portable PS2, and also fails are a portable gaming system because the selection of games it has is not very good.

Looking at the PSP in terms of what it is, it fails all around. It's not a very good game system (poor selection of games, and that big beautiful screen doesn't handle movement very well). It's not a very good entertainment center with its limited media and short battery life, and the overall hardware is flawed and is prone to many problems.

From almost all accounts, the PSP has the finest screen in handheld gaming (some argument may be had that it is rivaled by the new SP). I've never seen any problems with it handling movement, nor have I heard this argument before ... Any sources on this? Perhaps not owning one you've been misinformed? And I don't know what kind of media capabilities you would require in a portable entertainment center, as the PSP is one of the most adept portable devices for a wide, wide range of media ... Nor have there been many complaints of hardware problems, with some outcry over stuck/dead pixels at launch and virtually nothing else.

My point is this: There is alot of hype on these boards in particular how the PSP is somehow failing or floundering, while the hard facts do not support this whatsoever. Sales data, critical reviews, and swelling software support speak for themselves. I'm a blatant PSP fan and supporter, and have been since launch. But to see so much blatant disinformation repeatedly echoed about this system really makes me wonder how objective the DP community is. I'm not going to rain praise on the DS, but I'm not going to start spreading rumors about it's reliability/etc. either. Nor am I going to start inane threads titled "PSP = DS ownage!" in an attempt to justify my purchase of one system over another (though in fact, my household has both).

[None of that is directed towards SnappleMan or anyone in particular, but the community here in general. This thread is simply a prime example of said trends.]

I think we need a word filter at DP so the initials "DS" and "PSP" show up as "Tweedle Dee" and "Tweedle Dum" in posts.

[SnappleMan]

From almost all accounts, the PSP has the finest screen in handheld gaming (some argument may be had that it is rivaled by the new SP). I've never seen any problems with it handling movement, nor have I heard this argument before ... Any sources on this? Perhaps not owning one you've been misinformed? And I don't know what kind of media capabilities you would require in a portable entertainment center, as the PSP is one of the most adept portable devices for a wide, wide range of media ... Nor have there been many complaints of hardware problems, with some outcry over stuck/dead pixels at launch and virtually nothing else.

Well, I don't own one but my younger brother does. So I do have first hand experiance. I've noticed that with 3D games it has a strange way of scrolling where it blurrs the action, much like the original gameboy screen. My girlfriend has noticed this too. The 2D games I've played (Darkstalkers and GGXX) seemed to have no problems with this.

Do you think that his Tweedle Dum might be faulty?

Also, by media I mean what it supports. There's no way to really turn it into a multimedia entertainment machine because right now the memory sticks are too small, and expensive. I'm sure that in the future there will be better ways to carry your favorite music or movies with you on your Tweedle Dum, but for now it just seems like all of the extra features it has are really lacking because the lack of storage.

I know it's unfair of me to compare a Tweedle Dum to a 30gb MP3 player or something like that, but when it's advertised that way, I would expect it to be able to hold its own.

The only thing I'd really want to get a Tweedle Dum for would be emulation of older consoles, but the high price tag makes it not worth it.

[petewhitley]

Well, I don't own one but my younger brother does. So I do have first hand experiance. I've noticed that with 3D games it has a strange way of scrolling where it blurrs the action, much like the original gameboy screen. My girlfriend has noticed this too. The 2D games I've played (Darkstalkers and GGXX) seemed to have no problems with this.

Do you think that his Tweedle Dum might be faulty?

I'm thinking this must be primarily a problem with game development? I mean, I can watch encoded video and UMDs on mine without a hint of blurring. Perhaps you guys just have damn good eyes for refresh rates. I don't know the technical aspects of it, but this is a complaint I've neither experienced myself or heard of before.

[Teknik_SE-R]

I'm not putting the PSP down for having extra features, that's obviously stupid. but what I find stupid is the way those features are implemented, and the resulting increase in cost of the unit for these features.

The psp marketing scheme:

"a 2 gig memory card for $199 (on top of the 299 you payed for the PSP), that isn't in standard format, so you can't directly plug it into anything else."

"plays all of your favorite movies on umd for ten bucks more than the cost of the movie on DVD and you can only watch it on your PSP!"

The way I look at it, is that extra features are good Ideas IF they don't get in the way of the primary function of the system, and in the case of the psp, I think they did get in the way: it negatively affected the cost of the system and the quality standards for the games. The time and $ spent on integrating movie playback/hollywood production company contracts to make their movies in umd format, and mp3 playback integration could have been spent on further refining the vg development standards (character size to environment size ratios, refresh rates, detail emphasis to better differentiate background from character, etc) I'm sure it will get better with time. for their first try at a handheld, they did a kickass job, but it seems that 90% of it was a marketing creation. like the Action Gamemaster (http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/special/active11.html)

The DS, although gimmicky, at least has its focus right, directed purely at gaming. and for 129, it isn't that bad of a price. That's $20 more than the spinach screen cost at launch.

Like I said, I'm not talking smack on the psp for having extra features, but it, like almost every other multi function device, tries to be everything, and ends up being sub par in all categories.

as for the screen, I think of it as playing a ps2 game on a 4 inch screen. the camera angles and camera switching is too wild for such a small screen, and the character to environment size ratio seems to be unadjusted for the smaller screen. It's like living with toilet paper cores glued to you eyesockets.

Nintendo seems to have the character to environment ratio is pretty well hammered, which makes playing games on the DS easier on the eyes (and more enjoyable imo, cuz you don't have to fight with the graphics to see something).

I can personally justify possibly $200 for a psp, but not $250 or $300. I'll spend my $300 on a next gen home system that I can play on my bigscreen. thank you.

This is just my opinion and view of the issue. I know that my friend, who is always on the go, and doens't have time to sit down at his house to play his ps2, but wants to play the "latest and greatest" games, loves his PSP. he uses the internet function and the music function alot, and loves it. however, he spits at the cost of the memory cards, and thinks the movie idea was a bunch of crap, just like me. he bought it primarily for the games, and uses the extra features as... well... extra features. the problem I have is that he spent probably $150 for the game system, and $100 for the extra features. And 90% of it's use is through gaming. kindof an imbalanced cost to usefullness ratio.

[Griking]

Nevermind - I won't get suckered in.

[classicb]

Nevermind - I won't get suckered in.

good call, I'm surprised I posted at all in this thread. I told myself some time ago I woudn't post in threads that had the word "ownage" in it.

[njiska]

Nevermind - I won't get suckered in.

good call, I'm surprised I posted at all in this thread. I told myself some time ago I woudn't post in threads that had the word "ownage" in it.

Hey i take offense to that.

If you can think of a better word then ownage to describe the amount of copies people own, i'd like to hear it.

I started this thread so you should've known right away that was never any intended fanboy-ism.

[classicb]

Nevermind - I won't get suckered in.

good call, I'm surprised I posted at all in this thread. I told myself some time ago I woudn't post in threads that had the word "ownage" in it.

Hey i take offense to that.

If you can think of a better word then ownage to describe the amount of copies people own, i'd like to hear it.

I started this thread so you should've known right away that was never any intended fanboy-ism.

come on anytime you put two systems VS and "ownage" you're just asking for trouble weather you wanted it or not. if you wanted to see what people owned for both systems why not use "&" instead of "VS"

[njiska]

Nevermind - I won't get suckered in.

good call, I'm surprised I posted at all in this thread. I told myself some time ago I woudn't post in threads that had the word "ownage" in it.

Hey i take offense to that.

If you can think of a better word then ownage to describe the amount of copies people own, i'd like to hear it.

I started this thread so you should've known right away that was never any intended fanboy-ism.

come on anytime you put two systems VS and "ownage" you're just asking for trouble weather you wanted it or not. if you wanted to see what people owned for both systems why not use "&" instead of "VS"

You should try reading the thread and see how little fanboyism has actually gone on. Prior to Teknik_SE-R bringing the issue back up, it was slim to nil.

And an & does not imply a comparision which is what the thread was meant to be. You judge a book by it's cover and that's rarely a wise move.

[classicb]

Nevermind - I won't get suckered in.

good call, I'm surprised I posted at all in this thread. I told myself some time ago I woudn't post in threads that had the word "ownage" in it.

Hey i take offense to that.

If you can think of a better word then ownage to describe the amount of copies people own, i'd like to hear it.

I started this thread so you should've known right away that was never any intended fanboy-ism.

come on anytime you put two systems VS and "ownage" you're just asking for trouble weather you wanted it or not. if you wanted to see what people owned for both systems why not use "&" instead of "VS"

You should try reading the thread and see how little fanboyism has actually gone on. Prior to Teknik_SE-R bringing the issue back up, it was slim to nil.

And an & does not imply a comparision which is what the thread was meant to be. You judge a book by it's cover and that's rarely a wise move.

using a nonsense word like "ownage" makes you sound like someone from GameFAQs which is whatever kind of move you want it to be. I'm well aware of when the bashing started I'm just saying it was bound to happen with a title like that.

[njiska]

Nevermind - I won't get suckered in.

good call, I'm surprised I posted at all in this thread. I told myself some time ago I woudn't post in threads that had the word "ownage" in it.

Hey i take offense to that.

If you can think of a better word then ownage to describe the amount of copies people own, i'd like to hear it.

I started this thread so you should've known right away that was never any intended fanboy-ism.

come on anytime you put two systems VS and "ownage" you're just asking for trouble weather you wanted it or not. if you wanted to see what people owned for both systems why not use "&" instead of "VS"

You should try reading the thread and see how little fanboyism has actually gone on. Prior to Teknik_SE-R bringing the issue back up, it was slim to nil.

And an & does not imply a comparision which is what the thread was meant to be. You judge a book by it's cover and that's rarely a wise move.

using a nonsense word like "ownage" makes you sound like someone from GameFAQs which is whatever kind of move you want it to be. I'm well aware of when the bashing started I'm just saying it was bound to happen with a title like that.

But you can't actually prove that now can you? We went for over a month without any bashing and the thread passed into the night. Then someone decided to bring it back with a bash.

The title has nothing to do with it, if some one is looking for a fight they'll start it anywhere regardless of title and due to the length of time it took for a bash to occur i'd hardly say the title was bait either.

But why the hell are we arguing over the title anyways? It's just as pointless.