E3 2006 - News, Updates, pics, videos official thread.

[Lothars]

Whoa! IGN are suggesting that Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin on the Nintendo DS could be the BEST EVER Castlevania.

It is a shame to read that Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Galaxy won't be launch titles.

that's awesome

I love Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow and if it's better than that, that's just amazing

[MarkMan]

I played Portrain of Ruin for almost an hour... IT IS AMAZING.

I love it so far... it really is one of the best Castlevania's already... very innovative for the series.

[THATinkjar]

I don't know if anyone else knows this... but Nintendo seem to have confirmed that the standard output will be 480p. And they commented that the Wii is "much more" powerful than the GameCube.


I played Portrain of Ruin for almost an hour... IT IS AMAZING.

I love it so far... it really is one of the best Castlevania's already... very innovative for the series.

I officially hate you. Wait, no, maybe you can snag me a copy... I love you, really :)

[MarkMan]

You can hate me now. I'll try to get some more details on it tomorrow when I meet with Konami. :)

In other news... DigitalSpace found this picture... IT HAS NOT BEEN ALTERED in any way!

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/845/markistheman22rr.jpg

[THATinkjar]

Holy Moly! Best looking E3 booth babes ever! I'll take the one on the left, please. Please send via UPS Priority shipping. I'll pay you in mesetas!

[FantasiaWHT]

Thanks for actually taking my point and elaborating it. You DO realize you took all that space to say what I had already said, right?



... processing power moves the market FORWARD...

It makes the general public (not DP members) tuck yesterday's system in the closet for the new kid on the block.



Yes, processing power delineates the generations of hardware, but it is not even close to a prediction of success.

Some of the most powerful systems per generation have been failures commercially.

[kainemaxwell]

Came across this also, apperently Nintendo's taking suggestions for SSSB characters:

http://forum.deviantart.com/entertainment/gaming/631577/

[Ninja Blacksox]

Came across this also, apperently Nintendo's taking suggestions for SSSB characters:

http://forum.deviantart.com/entertainment/gaming/631577/

Eggplant Wizard! Eggplant Wizard!

-A Boy

[diskoboy]

Whoever started this post should just change this to the "E3 Wii news thread"

Hardly anyone is mentioning not a single one of the other systems. I guess this thread has brought out all the fanboys. :hmm:

I mean... I'm looking forward to the Wii. But christ people... Some PC, 360, or PS3 news would be nice. I haven't heard shit on the PS3 but everyone complaining about the pricing structure. I've heard absolutely nothing on the PC.

Uhh, you want some cheese with that whine?

Theres a reason I started my first post in this thread with "People will be talking about Sony for the next 16 hours" because that's when the Nintendo conference started.

It happens every year, and Nintendo is incredibly good at stealing everyone elses thunder. Why aren't we talking about the PS3 beyond the price? Because it's not that interesting and the price is a HUGE announcement with incredibly large consequences for the entire market. Way bigger than any game they showed, none of which were suprising to anyone. They were all known or knew were going to happen (FFXIII). That and theres a huge PS3 thread staying at the top of this forum already.

For 360, there's a Halo thread. Beyond that, not very interesting.

Discussing whats most interesting to us hardly makes us fanboys.

Ummm - thats the textbook definition of a fanboy.

As I said... I want a Wii now too, but Jesus Christ people... There are other games for the 360 besides Halo 3 and Gears of War. And just because the PS3 has an astronomical price doesn't mean people don't wanna hear about it. And not one single person has mentioned Spore...

Still haven't heard jack-shit on the PC end.

BTW - Did S.T.A.L.K.E.R not show up at the show, this year?

[Icarus Moonsight]

The buzz is Wii. **shrugs**

Spore looks flat out amazing, it's Will Wright, what would you expect? I just may have to snag a copy. :)

On the 360 front... what has interested me the most is Prey and Too Human. I'm not sold but I am interested.

That's all I can come up with that isn't Nintendo related... See why I would rather jive about Wii and the new DS games?

A vertical shooter from Milestone on Wii!!! My heart just skipped a beat. :love:

[Xexyz]

Alrighty MarkMan, since you got some extensive playtime out of the Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin demo I have a question to ask you. Is it an explorative based Castlevania like the last five 2D Castlevania titles, or is it taking a more traditional, linear role? I'm curious because the gameplay videos just give me the idea that it might be taking on the old-school formula approach.

[zerohero]

My WIW "What I want"

Xbox 360

Gears of War
Lost Planet
Halo 3

PS3

Lower price
Metal Gear Solid 4

Wii

Red Steel
Zelda Wii
Mario Wii
Wario Ware Wii

PC

Crystalis
Spore

This list is subject to be updated

[Anthony1]

I was going to make a new thread titled... "Ok, so who is actually at e3", but I figured that it would be closed and that I would be instructed to just post it in this thread, so I'm just going to do it here.



WHO IS ACTUALLY AT THE e3 SHOW?



If you are actually at the show, can you give us some detailed impressions of your takes on games for the Wii, PS3 and 360, in regards to games that you actually had a chance to play yourself, or if you watched somebody playing the actual game? I'm not very interested in the videos or screenshots or anything, I just want some first hand experiences with actual playable games for these systems. Especially the PS3, cause I want to know if the PS3 really looks better than the 360, or is it pretty much the same. I'm also curious to see if the graphics for the Wii are as unimpressive as they look on the videos, or if they look much better in person. In the videos, they appear to be Xbox 1 level. Also, curious to get any takes on what it is like to use the wand and the tethered thing at the same time. Is it goofy to hold the wand and pretend it's a gun? I know they have that holder thing that makes it seem like a gun, but I don't like the idea that they but the movement on there too, cause that would seem super ackward to me.

[Rev. Link]

Was it announced that Mario Galaxy won't be a launch title? 'Cuz I kind of had my fingers crossed that it might be a pack-in game.

Hey, I know that doesn't happen much anymore these days, but if it's true the Wii could be really low in cost, why not throw in a pack-in game?

[Anthony1]

Unfortunately, pack in games are things of the past. We'll be lucky to get a little demo sampler thrown in there with a playable level or something.

[Rev. Link]

Well, RedWarrior was telling me he read an article on IGN where they totalled up the cost of making a Wii and determined that charging $200 for a Wii would be overpricing it.

So who's to say they might not charge $200 for the system and a game? Of course, Wii Sports is much more likely as a pack-in title.

Pack-ins may be a thing of the past, but then we never thought we'd see another 2D console platformer again either, and now we get Super Paper Mario.

[hezeuschrist]

Ummm - thats the textbook definition of a fanboy.

As I said... I want a Wii now too, but Jesus Christ people... There are other games for the 360 besides Halo 3 and Gears of War. And just because the PS3 has an astronomical price doesn't mean people don't wanna hear about it. And not one single person has mentioned Spore...

Still haven't heard jack-shit on the PC end.

BTW - Did S.T.A.L.K.E.R not show up at the show, this year?

No, discussing whats interesting to us makes us Fans, not fanboys.

Why haven't you heard anything about the PC? Because Vista isn't worth talking about, from every preview of every preview build every site says it's a giant chunk of shit. It's completely anti-user friendly and assumes the user is retarded. How many prompts do you have to clear to delete a shortcut from the desktop? 4. It warns you four times just to delete a shortcut for christs sake. That's terrible.

That, and it's not going to be out until 2007 now, so who knows what will actually make it into the final build. So far they've promised the world and in the latest preview build, have delivered Montana.

As for games, it's the same thing with the PC, over and over. There hasn't been innovation on that platform for 10 years. Yes, I'm looking forward to Half Life two Episode 1 or whatever they're calling it now, but I have no need for previews about it, it's going to be more of Half Life 2. Other than that I can't think of much thats even interesting... STALKER maybe, but even last year it was almost a no-show, and then theres the WoW expansion, but really, unless you actively play WoW no one cares. Another Rise of Nations expansion maybe? So wait, the PC has more FPS, RTS, and MMO's on the way? Who woulda thought.

And you may not have noticed this, but this isn't much of a PC gaming community. Some of us here have capable rigs but for the most part the people here are console enthusiasts.

Not fanboys.

[Darren870]

Nintendo is the king of pack ins. They had like what 6 different ones for the gamecube.

Though they wern't on launch, wii sports seems like the perfect pack in title.

Oh and I didnt see this, but Metroid 3 is a confirmed launch title.

[Anthony1]

Is it just me, or is Metal Gear Solid 4 going for a "3 Kings" or "Traffic" look? You know, that movie 3 Kings, or the movie Traffifc? The graphics have a kinda look to them that suggests they are going with a certain type of filter on the graphics to get a look that is similar to the movie 3 Kings. Kinda that grungy, grainy type look or something.


Anybody know what I'm talking about? I wonder if this look is intentional, or if it has to do with the way the PS3 does it's graphics.

[Rev. Link]

IGN reports that the main theme for SSBB was composed by none other than Nobuo Uematsu!

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707620p1.html

Also, Miyamoto himself has said not to count out seeing other 3rd party characters show up in this game. Sonic and Tails? Hey, if Uematsu's involved we might get Cloud.

[Anthony1]

Hey, whatever happend to Killzone for the PS3? I mean, wasn't that the biggest thing at last years e3? Kinda weird that it's totally dissapeared.

[Drexel923]

Well I'm happy with what I've seen from Nintendo and Microsoft. Even though I was already planning on getting a Wii on launch, I'm really excited for it now. It might be one of the best launches I've seen in a while...

Zelda: TP
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (just confirmed today)
Red Steel
Wii Sports (hopefully a pack in or around $20)
Tony Hawk Downhill Jam
Excite Truck (I believe it's a launch game)

I'm also impressed with the little we've seen on Mario and Project H.A.M.M.E.R. Obviously it sucks that we won't see Smash Bros at launch, but the above games will keep me happy while I wait.

I can understand some of the responses towards the Wii sports games...honestly I was hoping for better graphics on that shore, but I think it will work out in the end. I see it as being the gateway to other Wii games. When you are trying to get non-gamers to join the fold, usually the two things stopping them are complicated controls and sometimes complicated graphics...if theres a lot going on the screen at once, people might assume its too difficult. On top of that, Wii Sports looks to be a good learning game for the controller. Something to play to get used to the remote, before jumping into a game like Red Steel or something.

I have a question for everyone here...the system is most likely going to cost around $200-250...does anyone else think that the games are going to be closer to the DS pricing structure than the current gen? I have a feeling that most of the games will be $30-40.

Nintendo also impressed me with their DS and Gamecube lineup...there are a lot of great games coming down the line (most of them have been mentioned in this thread).


I've been happy with my Xbox360 and there were a few games that looked really good. I didn't really see anything new that got me excited, but the updates on games I already new about are nice. Actually there were a few games I wanted before, but after the last few days I actually don't really want them anymore (Lost Planet). Hopefully they will release a Dead Rising demo this week.


As for Sony...I don't even care anymore. For the amount of money that I spent on both the PS2 and PSP launch, I really felt burned by what I got at those times. So, I already knew I wasn't getting a PS3 at launch. But now its $600 (face it...its almost worthess to buy the cheaper one), I'm definitenly not getting one anytime soon. And personally I wasn't really excited about any of the games they showed...alot of the ones I do like I'll probably just get on the 360.

Also, like others have said I think its cold that they've already copied Nintendo's motion sensing stuff. Someone pointed out that it wasn't Nintendo's idea in the first place, that it was on the PC a couple years back...while that may be the case I don't think it really matters. Fact is...Sony showed no indication of doing anything remotely close to motion sensing, but then they lose a lawsuit, have to remove the rumble, and see that some people may actually like the Wii, and once again, Sony copies an idea and calls it innovative. On top of that...Nintendo's controller is way more in depth than the stuff that was used on the PC.

Analog, rumble and now motion sensing...while Nintendo wasn't the first in overall gaming to use any of those, its hard to argue that they weren't the ones who perfected them and brought them to consoles....and every one of those ideas Sony has swooped in and copied, and then used their spin to claim their method is revolutionary. Well at least by all of this we can gather that Nintendo is going in the right direction again...and maybe the Wii isn't that far out there.

[Rev. Link]

So far, the only PS3 games that I'm actually interested in are MGS4 and the eventual RE5. And, of course, Tony Hawk. But there's no way I'm buying a $600 system for any of those. It's just too much money. Maybe in a few years, once the price on the thing goes down, the first batch of bug-ridden hardware is out of the way, and there are a lot of good games for it, then I'll get one. I feel the same way about PSP.

360, while having a handful of games I think would be cool, still doesn't have the one killer app that's gonna get me to buy it. Halo's only okay IMO, and I haven't cared for GTA since San Andreas (that game was waaay too massive), and I found Fable to be a big disappointment. However, Gears of War looks like it has potential. Once the 360 goes down in price, I might wind up getting one to play Tony Hawk on.

[Darren870]

Also, like others have said I think its cold that they've already copied Nintendo's motion sensing stuff. Someone pointed out that it wasn't Nintendo's idea in the first place, that it was on the PC a couple years back...while that may be the case I don't think it really matters. Fact is...Sony showed no indication of doing anything remotely close to motion sensing, but then they lose a lawsuit, have to remove the rumble, and see that some people may actually like the Wii, and once again, Sony copies an idea and calls it innovative. On top of that...Nintendo's controller is way more in depth than the stuff that was used on the PC.


You forgot how they ripped off the 360 with the center button.

[THATinkjar]

I was going to make a new thread titled... "Ok, so who is actually at e3", but I figured that it would be closed and that I would be instructed to just post it in this thread, so I'm just going to do it here.

LOL Decide on the course of action, and then do the opposite. You've got it nailed, Anthony1 ;)

[THATinkjar]

Also, like others have said I think its cold that they've already copied Nintendo's motion sensing stuff. Someone pointed out that it wasn't Nintendo's idea in the first place, that it was on the PC a couple years back...while that may be the case I don't think it really matters. Fact is...Sony showed no indication of doing anything remotely close to motion sensing, but then they lose a lawsuit, have to remove the rumble, and see that some people may actually like the Wii, and once again, Sony copies an idea and calls it innovative. On top of that...Nintendo's controller is way more in depth than the stuff that was used on the PC.


You forgot how they ripped off the 360 with the center button.

Yes, imagine the millions that Nintendo will make from that move. It was a stroke of genius on Microsoft's part - it really was. Freestyle controller? Pah. Give me a main menu button! Woo!

[Darren870]

Just saying...

[hezeuschrist]

I have a question for everyone here...the system is most likely going to cost around $200-250...does anyone else think that the games are going to be closer to the DS pricing structure than the current gen? I have a feeling that most of the games will be $30-40.

I think there is a ton of potential for games in that pricing structure much like Brain Age is in the bargain category for the DS. I can definitely see Wii Sports only being $30. But for the real big titles, Metroid, Zelda, SSMB, the full games with full massive development cycles will still cost $50. Just because it's similar to gamecube development doesn't mean it's got any cheaper. They'll still be able to offer those games at $50 for sure though while the competition with their increased dev cycles due to hardware will be forced to charge $60-80.

They'll definitely be the king of the price wars this round, no doubt.

EDIT: I also expect to see the launch bundle return in force, at least one, maybe two, with a "core" system still available. I fully expect a WiiSports Bundle to come with two Wiimotes and the game for $300, maybe $350. I also expect to see a Zelda: TP bundle with Wiimote/nunchuk attachment and game for $300, but this one is less likely.

I think the WiiSports bundle is going to be essential to getting non-gamers to be able to swallow the cost of breaking into a market they until now didn't care about. It'll be a lot easier for them to handle one cost for one package that'll get them and at least one friend into the action than it will be to get them to buy a core system, additional remotes, and a game.

[Rev. Link]

More Wii news:

Check out the trailer for this game Sadness. Anyone got anymore infor on this? It looks interesting.
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/816/816122/vids_1.html

Plus, Microsoft says we should all buy Wiis! LOL
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707831p1.html

Here's video of the Virtual Console in action, and the classic style controller.
http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707705/vids_1.html

And finally, SHIT YES MAKE THIS GAME!
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707824p1.html

[Slate]

OK, here is a question i'd like answered.

Has microsoft announced a price cut for the 360 (Yet)?

[studvicious]

I think a price cut would be awesome but I don't really see it happening. Think about it, do they really NEED it now? It's already cheaper than the PS3.

And that trailer for Sadness is crazy awesome. Also, the Virtual Console turned out way better than I hoped.

[THATinkjar]

I think a price cut would be awesome but I don't really see it happening. Think about it, do they really NEED it now? It's already cheaper than the PS3.

Exactly. And I believe that they won't be making any hardware changes until January 2007, so surely they couldn't afford to drop the price yet, either. But as you say, they just don't have to!

[hezeuschrist]

OK, here is a question i'd like answered.

Has microsoft announced a price cut for the 360 (Yet)?

Why would they "announce" a price cut? As was mentioned previously, saying you're going to cut the price in November would just keep people from buying one between now and then.

They're only going to announce a price cut when it happens. And as mentioned above, they don't need to now. They've got Sony by the balls in terms of cost.

[Anthony1]

I would be a little bit suprised if MS doesn't do a price cut. Of course, I wouldn't cut the price until Tuesday, November 9th. Also, I would be shocked if the price cut was more than $50. I'm guessing you'll see the Premium at $349.99 and the Core at $249.99. This will put the core much closer to the Wii in price, and will allow the Premium to be $150 cheaper than Sony's cheapest PS3 sku.


One things for certain, there are going to be alot of various price drops for all these systems over the years, it's going to be brutal.

[Rev. Link]

I thought I'd heard that Microsoft plans on dropping the price of both 360 configurations by $100.

If they do so before the PS3 comes out, then the 360 will only be half the price of the PS3. That's gonna make a lot more folks inclined to go the MS route.

[kainemaxwell]

More Wii news:

Plus, Microsoft says we should all buy Wiis! LOL
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707831p1.html

And finally, SHIT YES MAKE THIS GAME!
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707824p1.html
Wow, the MS endorsing the Wii is a surprise. likely to help steal Sony's thunder, or blunder in this case.

YES to Star Wars!! Quick q though, the Wii likely won't play GC titles right?

[Darren870]

I want to hear something about mario party 8 and how amazing it will be with that controller....

[THATinkjar]

Quick q though, the Wii likely won't play GC titles right?

Yeah, it will. Fully backwards compat :)

[THATinkjar]

I want to hear something about mario party 8 and how amazing it will be with that controller....

You want to hear something, eh? Here goes...

Mario Party 8 will be made and will "fully support Nintendo's innovative controller". You can quote me on that, if you like!

[kainemaxwell]

Quick q though, the Wii likely won't play GC titles right?

Yeah, it will. Fully backwards compat :)
Ok, now I'm more sold on a Wii since there's some titles I'd like to play for it but never really got used to the controller!

[Slate]

I thought I'd heard that Microsoft plans on dropping the price of both 360 configurations by $100.

If they do so before the PS3 comes out, then the 360 will only be half the price of the PS3. That's gonna make a lot more folks inclined to go the MS route.

That's just a rumor, nothing confirmed, but we'll know in several day's time or so, If there isn't a price cut said at E3 i hope they don't go lowering the price just after i get a 360..

But, back to the Nintendo subject, Is that controller in the video going to be the one with tilt control? Or are there going to be 2 controllers, one for tilt control, one for games like Sonic and Mario 64?

[Rev. Link]

There are two controllers. One shaped like a remote that uses the motion sensor technology, and the SNES-looking one for old school or more traditional type games.

What do you think are the chances the Wii will come with the remote/nunchuck and the old school controller?

[hezeuschrist]

There are two controllers. One shaped like a remote that uses the motion sensor technology, and the SNES-looking one for old school or more traditional type games.

What do you think are the chances the Wii will come with the remote/nunchuck and the old school controller?

Very slim. I think the bundles I mentioned above are far, far more likely.

[Darren870]

if you watch the video of the old style remote on ign

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707705/vids_1.html

they say its not included.

[Drexel923]

if you watch the video of the old style remote on ign

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707705/vids_1.html

they say its not included.

Yeah, that does suck...but since the console will be somewhat cheap I won't feel as bad shelling at the money for it. Though they could change their mind.

I wonder though...since the system is backwards compatible with the Gamecube (games and controllers), couldn't you just use a Cube pad to play the virtual console games?

[Darren870]

Id imagine you could.

The numchuck though should be included as it seems you need it for a good % of the games.

Guess we will have to wait and see, i hope they don't hold the prices till TGS

[segagamer4life]

I played Portrain of Ruin for almost an hour... IT IS AMAZING.

I love it so far... it really is one of the best Castlevania's already... very innovative for the series.

you lucky bastard.... LOL LOL

[GrandAmChandler]

if you watch the video of the old style remote on ign

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707705/vids_1.html

they say its not included.

Yeah, that does suck...but since the console will be somewhat cheap I won't feel as bad shelling at the money for it. Though they could change their mind.

I wonder though...since the system is backwards compatible with the Gamecube (games and controllers), couldn't you just use a Cube pad to play the virtual console games?

Drexel is correct, I believe you can stick with the GCN pad (or possibly the Hori Pad) for your retro gaming needs.

[Darren870]

if you watch the video of the old style remote on ign

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707705/vids_1.html

they say its not included.

Yeah, that does suck...but since the console will be somewhat cheap I won't feel as bad shelling at the money for it. Though they could change their mind.

I wonder though...since the system is backwards compatible with the Gamecube (games and controllers), couldn't you just use a Cube pad to play the virtual console games?


Drexel is correct, I believe you can stick with the GCN pad (or possibly the Hori Pad) for your retro gaming needs.

Well you deffinitly can use the cube controllers. They said since SSBB wont use an wii controller technology, not to toss your old GCN controllers yet.

[Slate]

Double post... Thought i was editing my post.. LOL :embarrassed:

[Slate]

if you watch the video of the old style remote on ign

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707705/vids_1.html

they say its not included.

Yeah, that does suck...but since the console will be somewhat cheap I won't feel as bad shelling at the money for it. Though they could change their mind.

I wonder though...since the system is backwards compatible with the Gamecube (games and controllers), couldn't you just use a Cube pad to play the virtual console games?


Drexel is correct, I believe you can stick with the GCN pad (or possibly the Hori Pad) for your retro gaming needs.

Well you deffinitly can use the cube controllers. They said since SSBB wont use an wii controller technology, not to toss your old GCN controllers yet.

Cool, i may get another gamecube controller, A spice one i hope.

Anyway, what do you think the big differance is going to be between Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam and Tony Hawk's Project 8? I thought about getting both, but i don't know.

[Rev. Link]

Well, Downhill Jam is supposed to be a racing oriented game, right?

I got the feeling Project 8 is supposed to be the next game in the main series.

[dairugger]

werent you supposed to be able to turn the wii contoller, so that it looked like a old nes pad??

[Anthony1]

I thought I'd heard that Microsoft plans on dropping the price of both 360 configurations by $100.

If they do so before the PS3 comes out, then the 360 will only be half the price of the PS3. That's gonna make a lot more folks inclined to go the MS route.




Yeah, I'm not so sure. MS is still losing a very good amount of money on the 360. To lower it $100 only one year later, they can't afford to do that. Certainly, if they did it, it would just be an absolute attack for the jugular of Sony. No freaking Mercy. They are likely losing about $169 on each premium they sell, so to drop it one more C note only a year later, at that point they would be losing at least $250 per unit, and I don't think they want to venture into those kinda losses. They are going to leave that to Sony for this generation.


By the way, Microsoft would be wise to try to buy a Movie Studio, so that they can offer content on Xbox Live, and also have them exclusively support HD DVD over Blu Ray.

[Mayhem]

And if you're still unsure about the power of Wii... there's a video on Gamespot from 10:30am on day 2 showing the line. Which they closed for the day at that point due to too many people X_x LOL

[THATinkjar]

LEGO Star Wars II on Nintendo DS (http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/708/708084p1.html) looks fantastic!! :)

[lendelin]

So far I find the E3 pretty disappointing and not exciting at all. Nothing new about the games, the starting holes are dug for the console race for some time now, Nintendos Wii controller still opens up a lot of Qs about gameplay, and Ns role as the supplier of a 'supplement' machine seems to be established.

The only big news is the price tag for the PS3...and here the prospects for MS to close the gap to Sony became suddenly brighter. Such a price tag and price difference to the 360 outweighs the 'better technology'-argument of Sony. Together with the headstart of one year already, Sony won't be the undisputed marketleader. They will be the disputed market leader.

The lack of excitement about the new systems is also the result of premature aggressive PR strategies which go on for 18 months now and never came to rest, so it seems. Their duration and intensity topped PR hype of the past. I'm getting tired of little rubber duckies, speculations about controllers, withold information, and CG footage of games sold as gameplay. How long can someone anticipate the new Zelda game, 'fantasize' about the new Wii controller, and listen to euphemisms used on every stage by everyone?

Interesting is the analysis of the PR strategies, but even they are pretty much laid out for months. No news there either.

I'm interested in games, but way less in the hype around them. I'm also interested in politics, but to a much lesser degree in election campaign speeches and events. The lack of professional videogame journalism makes it very difficult to distinguish the two. Missing is the fun and entertainment value of PR strategies when critically evaluated and confronted with reality.

[Darren870]

http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/708/708093/vids_1.html

She says the wii-mote and the numchuck will be packaged together.

[Joker T]

Anyway, what do you think the big differance is going to be between Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam and Tony Hawk's Project 8? I thought about getting both, but i don't know.

Tony Hawk's Project 8 is much like the others, though I heard it is more realistic and Downhill Jam uses the Wii's remote for gameplay. Both offer entirely different experiences. Read up on both of them and you'll see.

[klausien]

So far I find the E3 pretty disappointing and not exciting at all. Nothing new about the games, the starting holes are dug for the console race for some time now, Nintendos Wii controller still opens up a lot of Qs about gameplay, and Ns role as the supplier of a 'supplement' machine seems to be established.

The only big news is the price tag for the PS3...and here the prospects for MS to close the gap to Sony became suddenly brighter. Such a price tag and price difference to the 360 outweighs the 'better technology'-argument of Sony. Together with the headstart of one year already, Sony won't be the undisputed marketleader. They will be the disputed market leader.

The lack of excitement about the new systems is also the result of premature aggressive PR strategies which go on for 18 months now and never came to rest, so it seems. Their duration and intensity topped PR hype of the past. I'm getting tired of little rubber duckies, speculations about controllers, withold information, and CG footage of games sold as gameplay. How long can someone anticipate the new Zelda game, 'fantasize' about the new Wii controller, and listen to euphemisms used on every stage by everyone?

Interesting is the analysis of the PR strategies, but even they are pretty much laid out for months. No news there either.

I'm interested in games, but way less in the hype around them. I'm also interested in politics, but to a much lesser degree in election campaign speeches and events. The lack of professional videogame journalism makes it very difficult to distinguish the two. Missing is the fun and entertainment value of PR strategies when critically evaluated and confronted with reality.

Not to be a dick, but it E3 a trade show. All of the above is the point of its existence. We are not the true audience. It is for the retailers.

[NintenDk]

Not to be a dick, but it E3 a trade show. All of the above is the point of its existence. We are not the true audience. It is for the retailers.


http://www.reveries.com/reverb/kids_marketing/fils-aime/images/names.jpg


hey you wanna get your name taken too, thats "MEDIA BRIEFING" LOL


Why did you threaten to kick asses and take names at the E3 conference? You were just joking, right?



No, I actually wasn't joking.

[MarkMan]

God... my feet haven't recovered from the show yet.

I just wanted to post about this:

http://static.flickr.com/44/145464320_0f1b8e7665_o.jpg

The girl on the far left(Kathy) actually won babe of show award.

Wii.

[YoshiM]

So far I find the E3 pretty disappointing and not exciting at all. Nothing new about the games, the starting holes are dug for the console race for some time now, Nintendos Wii controller still opens up a lot of Qs about gameplay, and Ns role as the supplier of a 'supplement' machine seems to be established.

The only big news is the price tag for the PS3...and here the prospects for MS to close the gap to Sony became suddenly brighter. Such a price tag and price difference to the 360 outweighs the 'better technology'-argument of Sony. Together with the headstart of one year already, Sony won't be the undisputed marketleader. They will be the disputed market leader.

The lack of excitement about the new systems is also the result of premature aggressive PR strategies which go on for 18 months now and never came to rest, so it seems. Their duration and intensity topped PR hype of the past. I'm getting tired of little rubber duckies, speculations about controllers, withold information, and CG footage of games sold as gameplay. How long can someone anticipate the new Zelda game, 'fantasize' about the new Wii controller, and listen to euphemisms used on every stage by everyone?

Interesting is the analysis of the PR strategies, but even they are pretty much laid out for months. No news there either.

I'm interested in games, but way less in the hype around them. I'm also interested in politics, but to a much lesser degree in election campaign speeches and events. The lack of professional videogame journalism makes it very difficult to distinguish the two. Missing is the fun and entertainment value of PR strategies when critically evaluated and confronted with reality.

I think the problem is that we get fed so *much* information thanks to the internet that it's sometimes hard for some to overcome their own internal hype that they've built. Especially for those who remember CES's and such we'd read about in magazines years back. The mags were itand when gaming sites were slowly building up in the early days of the Web, the info was still a trickle.

I wasn't really surprised with Microsoft's 360 showing. I flipped through IGN's list of games and most of them I had already known or seen and those I didn't reminded me of games I've already played (that Elveon game reeked of Fable). I think Superman: The Return, F.E.A.R. (as I don't have a PC with enough oomph to run that version), Prey and Star Trek: Legacy look the most interesting to me.

As I'm not a big fan of Sony anyway, the PS3 showing didn't do anything for me other than gag on the price. A lot of the games look to be coming out for the 360 anyway. I'll give Sony props for not letting the cat out of the bag too early, following Nintendo's lead. The DualShockless controller, while better than the boomerang-toomerang-zoomerang, just seemed like a last ditch effort to keep their audience happy and to rip off a technology they deemed as "a gimmick" just to keep up with the Jones's.

What impressed me the most, and yeah it probably rings a bit of fanboyism, was Nintendo's display. They held the cards close to their chest until E3 and let people have it. Seeing the Wii in action shows a LOT of promise for the platform. I could care less if the big N is on top, just bring me fun games. The upcoming DS titles made my checking account yelp as it knows its going to be pillaged for new titles. Nintendo did it right, proved by the 4+ hour waits to see the technology. Yeah things did look a little rough, but come November and beyond things will get ironed out.

Best E3 is years, IMO.

[Jasoco]

I agree with YoshiM for the most part. Except I wasn't excited about the 360 until I saw the Fable 2 trailer. It just might actually get me to purchase one. Or at least move it up in my "Things I must buy!" queue. By that time Perfect Dark Zero and Kameo will be Platinum Hits (Please don't uglify the 360 boxes this time, Microsoft.) and Halo 3 will be out. If Halo 3 and Fable 2 are done right this time, I will definitely consider the 360 more than I have until now. Even without HD.

I watched all three conferences, and Sony's by far was the most boring one I've ever seen. Their 2004 conference was more interesting. This was a snoozefest. And yes, I literally fell asleep during his boring PowerPoint speach. I watched it again later and nothing was interesting at all except that "gimmick" EyeToy card game, which was pretty cool I do admit. But the motion sensor in the controller just seemed like a way to say "Hey, we have it too!" And yeah, I do think they definitely panicked when they heard people ahte the boomerang and decided to stick to what they'd done before. They should have done that from the start. But bad move removing the rumble.

Does the 360 wireless controller have a rumble? I honestly don't know. But the Wiimote really is unique. Not only a rumble, but sound too? I can't wait to hear Mario picking up coins or Link shooting arrows from his bow.

Wii has always interested me since they announced it a few years ago, and after the whole "Stupid name" stuff I was actually going into this week with a fear that they had screwed up. That "Nintendo's failure" was gonna be the big focus of the Internets and web sites. But I wasn't disappointed. Their conference actually impressed me. It was all showmanship. A big celebration of video games. Demo's gallore. Reggie kicking more ass and taking more names. Nintendo making more games. There was more at this years E3 from Nintendo that I was even expecting or even wanted. Wow.. Many more Mario games. A NEW YOSHI'S ISLAND? The new Zelda and Metroid we all expected. The surprise unveiling of Smash Bros. Brawl. A Star Fox game on the DS. (I'd still settle for remakes of the originals.) It kept coming.

Even Microsoft surprised me with their conference. I watched it last night. Peter Moore may not be a Reggie Fils-Aime, but he's definitely no Sony Iwata guy. Which is a good thing. Even the Gears of War demo they started with impressed me. I will definitely get that if I get a 360. (If it's for 360 that is.) And the whole "Games for Windows" push they're finally doing. It'll basically make Windows games like Xbox games or PS2 or Cube or Wii or SNES games. All centralized in their own spot in stores with their own headers. No longer scattered with the office software and shit. About damn time. Now, if they could make it literally plug-and-play like consoles are (Place CD in PC, start game up. Off you go.) they'd have perfection.

Best E3 in a long time.

[lucavi]

not sure if anyone posted this yet but i just thought it was funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_4InHXPHvs&feature=Views&page=1&t=t&f=b

[Nesmaster]

Does the 360 wireless controller have a rumble? I honestly don't know.

You betcha! Great life on a single charge/two AA batteries too. Apparently the controller has FOUR levels of rumble? I've no idea how to change it... anyone know? :?

[Icarus Moonsight]

Now that the show is done and I've had my fill I'd like to share with all my favorite E3 stuff and basic thoughts overall.

Nintendo

Nearly everything Nintendo showed this year was an awesome surprise or kicked so much ass that it would make Reggie proud. :) Things that I expected from Nintendo and didn't get was, of course, launch date/price info for the Wii. :angry: I guess it would be too "out of character" for them to give the whole skinny on the Wii at one trade show. :P Bastards, we love you... jerks. lol Enough has been said about Nintendo already though, so on we go.

Microsoft

If you told me three months ago that I would be interested in an Xbox system I would have near died from hideous, uncontrolled laughter. Now, however, I'd most likely respond with "Only after I get me Wii Yarrrr!"

Honestly MS and the lineup for the 360 blew me away. This may sound strange but I really wasn't sold on the 360 until I saw a "Face Time" report on G4 that featured Live Arcade. That's when I saw Geometry(sp?) Wars, my mind pulled a - O_O and a second later when I found myself back in control of me and my first thought was, "Next-Gen Robotron... FUCK YEAH!" That game was beutiful... near Rez gorgeous even. I was left with three words in regard of the 360: Gonna. Get. One. :)

N3, Gears of War, Prey, Too Human and many other games looked real good to me and since I usually have more than one system per gen, a 360 is going to be my second next gen console purchase after the Wii. :) Mr. Morris, I'll take you up on your suggestion sir! lol

Sony

From the glimpses of the trailers I got while my DVR was zomming through the commercial ridden G4 coverage I was actually glad I have deceided to ignore the PS3. I hadn't seen anything besides prerendered trailers. If the thing is going to launch in Nov this year shouldn't there have been some gameplay demos? Not just prerendered smoke and mirriors? Sony is going to have to get serious here and stop assuming everyone else in the world is a complete and total dumb ass. Obedient and mindless waiting to sup at their teats. :P It's not fanboyism that pisses me off when Sony is concerned, it's this BS right here. :angry:

I seriously tried to ignore PS3 stuff this E3 after the $600 bomb. But one thing infiltrated (no not Snake and MGS4, I knew about that game last year) what I'm reffering to is Assassin's Creed. I know it was only a trailer... I know it's part of the hype machine... but it looked that damn good that I had to take notice. That's pretty powerful stuff eh? Not to worry though Mr. Wallet I would never abuse you as bad as to buy a PS3 until it has a few dozon price drops. lol

Sony did deliver on God of War 2, but I knew about that one also before E3. C'mon Sony, your not a freshmen anymore. Hell even your sophomore console is nearly through it's cycle. There is no excuse for this! This is why you don't go to a kegger the night before final exams... your going to look like and ass at the party plus have a killer hang-over while taking tests all damn day. No good man, no good at all.

PSP's Every Extend Extra and Roco Loco looked fun as hell to me. I may buy the games but I'll wait for the system to come down in price somemore.

The best Sony news was stuff I already knew about and for the PS2. Namely God of War 2 and Guitar Hero 2. Both I'll buy and both I'll enjoy. :D

I would place Sony's showing this year at among the weakest yet @ E3's past and present... the only reason it's not "the weakest" is I heard N-Gage was there this year demoing a new handheld... and heard nothing about it beyond that they were there. Plus, does anyone rememeber the Phantom? Weak. x_x

PC

I enjoyed; Hellgate London, Half Life Ep 1 and SPORE!
That's all I'll say and nothing more. :P

Best of Show

Wii

Font color = to urine, kinda like I wrote it in snow! :P

[le geek]

Well after digesting E3 via the web and G4, I'm thinking I will get a Wii at or near launch and an X360 when Halo 3 comes out (maybe sooner). PS3 maybe after several price drops...

Here are the 10 games I am most excited about

Halo 3 (X360)
Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii)
Guitar Hero II (PS2)
Rogue Galaxy (PS2)
Excite Truck (Wii)
Every Extend Extra (PSP)
Intellivision Lives! (DS)
Contact (DS)

Honorable mentions:
Bioshock (X360)
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin (DS)
Dragon Quest Swords: The Mask Queen and the Tower of Mirrors (Wii)
Earthbound 2 (GBA) if it ever comes out
Elebits (Wii)
Elite Beat Agents (DS)
Final Fantasy VI (GBA)
Hotel Dusk: Room 215 (DS)
Indiana Jones (Next Gen)
LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy (Current Gen)
LocoRoco (PSP)
Lumines Plus (PS2)
Okami (PS2)
Red Steel (Wii)
Sadness (Wii)
Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (Wii)
Yoshi's Island 2 (DS)

It's weird this list makes me looks like a Nintendo Fanboy (tm) :embarrassed:. I'm not really (maybe an Amiga/Atari Fanboy on bad days) as I play PS2 current gen the most these days...

Cheers,
Ben

[kainemaxwell]

Not sure if this vid ever was posted here but check out the stampede to Nintendo's booth at the start of E3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFQz98jAcg8

[Jasoco]

Add to that the following:

From Nintendo's point of view. Holy crap!
http://e3src.nintendo.com/news/even_on_day_three_the_demand_to_experience_wii_is_/


Here's another view from a GameSpot editors POV:
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/video_player.php?user=Adam_B&id=JHM1wzr85bsMujI


Another video..
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/video_player.php?id=cXQ2kTGo5bsMsz4
Set to Mario World music this time.


A video of the people in line waiting set to Katamari Damacy music for some reason...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2wjeMGGPik
And that's not even ther whole line. Poor girl. Last in line.

[GarrettCRW]

Another video..
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/video_player.php?id=cXQ2kTGo5bsMsz4
Set to Mario World music this time.

Reggie, I think we're gonna need a bigger boat.

[Nesmaster]

Another video..
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/video_player.php?id=cXQ2kTGo5bsMsz4
Set to Mario World music this time.

Reggie, I think we're gonna need a bigger boat.

4 1/2 minutes, just to walk from the front of the line to the end! LOL!

[Mr.FoodMonster]

Wow. That is totally ridiculous.

[kainemaxwell]

Add to that the following:

From Nintendo's point of view. Holy crap!
http://e3src.nintendo.com/news/even_on_day_three_the_demand_to_experience_wii_is_/


Here's another view from a GameSpot editors POV:
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/video_player.php?user=Adam_B&id=JHM1wzr85bsMujI


Another video..
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/video_player.php?id=cXQ2kTGo5bsMsz4
Set to Mario World music this time.


A video of the people in line waiting set to Katamari Damacy music for some reason...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2wjeMGGPik
And that's not even ther whole line. Poor girl. Last in line.

Love them or hate them, seeing those videos you have to admit Nintendo made a huge splash at E3 this year.