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    Default Eye laser of vintage systems?

    hey guys

    I was wondering is the laser part of let say a Sega Cd is easy to fix?

    Because im a casual Vintage gamer & it always scares me that one day will come
    that it's gonna be rarer & rarer to get a working sega cd / sega saturn / jaguar ec....... & fixing things will become Non avoidable.

    so i was wondering if it's possible to fix laser (bad reading, skipping) ,

    there must be Laser parts that sales like generic brand ?
    and you can just swap the defective part?

    let me know on this thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sega_Naomi View Post
    hey guys

    I was wondering is the laser part of let say a Sega Cd is easy to fix?

    Because im a casual Vintage gamer & it always scares me that one day will come
    that it's gonna be rarer & rarer to get a working sega cd / sega saturn / jaguar ec....... & fixing things will become Non avoidable.

    so i was wondering if it's possible to fix laser (bad reading, skipping) ,

    there must be Laser parts that sales like generic brand ?
    and you can just swap the defective part?

    let me know on this thanks!
    www.electronix.com has laser pickups. the segaCD model 2 laser is like 10$ and a turo duo laser is around 18 or so. they have quite a few lasers ro choose from
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    there's two different types of assemblies for the model 2 Sega CD...

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    Yes, you can just swap out the defective laser for the new one, it's very simple. I did this with a TurboDuo and a laser from electronix.com to fix an issue with it not playing redbook audio properly. You might need to tweak the potentiometer a bit, though.

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    Which lasers are used by the rev. 2 Sega CD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Computolio View Post
    Which lasers are used by the rev. 2 Sega CD?
    Which one? There's two revisions of the Model 2 Sega CD..

    I'll identify them tomorrow if you'd like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by evildragon View Post
    Which one? There's two revisions of the Model 2 Sega CD..

    I'll identify them tomorrow if you'd like...
    Both of them.

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    Any news?

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    I'm so sorry, I totally forgot.. I'm not going to be seeing these systems for a week.

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    Does anyone know what laser is in the TG16/CD unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bighab View Post
    Does anyone know what laser is in the TG16/CD unit?
    KSS-162A

    I had one on back-order from Electronix for 9 months before they finally acknowledged they can't get them any more...

    There is also the KSS-220A - which costs around $50. They may have them at Electronix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Computolio View Post
    Which lasers are used by the rev. 2 Sega CD?
    Mine has a SOH0T4. I don't know which revision it is, thought. Model number is MK-4102 if that helps. For some reason, the image in electronix.com doesn't match, but I suppose it's just a place holder.

    Some other laser models:

    Sega CD model 1 - KSS240A lens

    Turbo Duo - HOPM3 lens

    PlayStation:
    SCHP-55xx to 900x - KSM440ADM drive or KSM440AEM drive (KSM440BAM drive also fits but needs extension cable).
    SCHP-3000, 100x and 500x can use the KSM440BAM drive but you need to replace the top cover of the BAM with the one from the original drive mechanism (KSM440AAM or KSM440ACM).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Computolio View Post
    Both of them.
    I found out that some Sega CD 2 have the Sony KSS210A while others (like mine) have the Samsung SOH04T. I don't know which revision is which, thought.

    EDIT: I found out!
    Sega CD 2 rev.1 (silver ring spindle) Samsung SOH-04T
    Sega CD 2 rev. 2 (all black spindle) Sony KSS210A lens, Sony KSS210B lens
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    More lasers:

    Sega Saturn
    rev.1 (oval buttons): JVC EMW10447, which is physically the same as the OPTIMA6. JVC OPTIMA150S could be used as a sustitute.
    rev.2A, 2B (round buttons): JVC OPTIMA6, JVC OPTIMA6S. JVC OPTIMA150S could be a sustitute
    Sanyo trapboard rev.: Sanyo SF-P101-15P, Sanyo SF-P101N-15P


    Sega Dreamcast:
    Yamaha drive (round CD pickup): NEC SPU-3200 lens, NEC SPU-3201 lens
    Samsung drive (square CD pickup): Samsung SOH-R48 lens
    The Dreamcast drives are a propietary design and there is no way to get the whole mechanism unless you take it from another Dreamcast.

    X'Eye: JVC OPTIMA6, JVC OPTIMA6S. JVC OPTIMA150S could be a sustitute

    Goldstar 3DO: Sanyo SF-C93

    Xbox
    Phillips VAD 6011/21 drive: Phillips SPU-3141
    Samsung SDG-605/B, 616T, 616F drives: Samsung SOH-D12 or SOH-D16
    Thompson drive: Thompson TOP60

    Xbox 360
    Hitachi GDR-3120L drive: Sanyo SF-HD63 or Sanyo SF-HD67 (replacement)
    Samsung TS-H943 drive: Sanyo SF-HD67 (replacement)
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    More models:

    PlayStation 2
    SCPH-10000 to SCPH-3000x: Sony KHS-400A lens
    SCPH-10000 to SCPH-3500x: Sony KHS-400B lens
    SCPH-10000 to SCPH-5000x: Sony KHS-400C lens
    SCPH-10000 to SCPH-50010 and SCHP-3000xR: Sony KHS-400R lens, Sanyo SF-HD7 lens(replacement)

    KHS-400A can replace the KHS-400B only if a thin metal plate is taped to the side of the housing to form a metal corner like the B one, but it can’t replace either KHS-400C or R because of its thick base.

    KHS-400B can repace KHS-400A without any modification but this model is not suitable to replace the C and R models due to its thicker base.

    KHS-400C is thin and therefore can replace the A and B model as well as the R model.

    KHS-400R is also thin and can be used in place of the C model as well as the A and B models. This model has a direct replacement from Sanyo bearing the model SF-HD7.

    SCPH-7000xCB (PSTwo yellow box): NEC SPU-3170 lens???
    SCPH-7000x (PSTwo): Mitsumi TDP-082W drive, Mitsumi PVR-802W lens
    SCPH-7500x (PSTwo): Mitsumi TDP-082W drive???, Mitsumi PVR-802W lens
    SCPH-7700x, SCPH-7900x (PSTwo): Mitsumi TDP-182W drive, Mitsumi PVR-802W lens
    Some PSTwo have the Sony KHM-430AAA drive with the Sony KHS-430A lens. The Mitsumi and Sony models are interchangeable, but not the NEC models.


    PlayStation 3
    Sony KEM-400AAA drive, KES-400A lens, Sony KEM-410ACA drive(replacement)
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    Excellent info!

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    Default Where do we get them?

    So, now where can we buy a Sega Saturn laser pickup (Optima6)?

    I have found a ew on the net, around $35-$50 seems a bit high, but if that's all that's left out there.


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    Here are some that I have seen

    Sega CD Type 1:
    JVC Optima 5 (Uses 2x Stranded wire cable)

    Sega CD Type 2:
    KSS-210A (Uses 2x Stranded wire cable)
    KSS-240A (Uses a White ribbon cable)
    JVC Optima 6 (Uses a White ribbon cable)

    Sega Saturn Type 1:
    JVC Optima 6 (Uses a White ribbon cable)

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    I think the laser part is very hard to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpower View Post
    I think the laser part is very hard to fix.
    It's actually one of the easier things to "fix", since it's mostly replacing the defective part with another one.
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    Default Good place to purchase laser lens

    Hello,
    I've made many purchases from those guys:
    http://www.libertye-online.com/

    they have most of those laser lens at very good prices and when installed all worked like a charm

    be the force with you...

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    Sorry for the bump of an old thread.

    I tried a Optima-150 in a Sega CD2. I ordered a Optima 6.....got sent the wrong one, some funny bastard replaced the sticker on the laser or it has been incorrectly marked as a 6, the box it came in said "Optima 150".

    It does not work. I have temporarily used one out of a Saturn (Optima 6) and the console works, I just wanted to replace the one I borrowed from the Saturn.

    One thing I did notice on the 150 laser though was there was no solder bridge, there was a spot for it but it wasn't bridged. I have contacted seller for the correct laser and a replacement.

    With the 150 in the Sega CD2 it spins up as if trying to read the disc. If I turn the machine on with the disc in, it pretty much straight away says no disc. If I turn it on and then put the disc in, it just tries to read, spinning the disc doing nothing.
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    The 150 you got without the bridge probably had it removed due to being a used laser or pulled from a working console/assembly.

    Shame you can't use a KSS-210A. I have a dead SegaCD2 here with an entire laser assembly I could ship out but it uses dual connectors and not just a single ribbon.
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    Yea, I am not sure what the go is, not happy about it anyway as I have done my money on it. They would want it shipped back and yadda yadda. I saw another seller that sells the Optima-150 and the laser they have doesn't have a solder "blob" but a "static protection bar" in the socket.

    The Saturn I got the laser from was just a parts unit anyway, it is missing a power supply. It was an American console at the video game shop I do repairs for, some Galah plugged it into the power point without looking (live in Australia) and blew the power supply up. They asked me to repair it for them and I looked at the power input and noticed it was an odd shape (flat one side of the figure 8 connector, in Australia it is rounded both sides), then saw the specs "input 120v"...... They gave it to me for parts.

    Anyway, bit off topic that....

    I believe I purchased the Sega CD2 lid and spring from you from Assembler forums?

    I have another 2 Sega CD2's to fix up, (both use the Samsung SOH-OT4 laser) one needed the lid, the other needs a new laser, which I have ordered (different supplier) hopefully I have better luck. The supplier of the Samsung laser also has the JVC one so if it works out I will get one from them. I have confirmed both Sega CD2's work as I swapped the laser's back and forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APE992 View Post
    The 150 you got without the bridge probably had it removed due to being a used laser or pulled from a working console/assembly.

    Shame you can't use a KSS-210A. I have a dead SegaCD2 here with an entire laser assembly I could ship out but it uses dual connectors and not just a single ribbon.
    I could use a KSS-210A. I can get it new from Liberty Electronics for about 20$ so if you can make a better deal while being shipped to Canada, I'll take it.

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