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    Quote Originally Posted by IHatedSega View Post
    Monopolies are never good for industries, just look at Pro Wrestling in America.

    Sega would have been better off if Sony hadn't made the Playstation, it caused them to rush a lot of things and then Bernie Stolar came from being in charge of the American Playstation to being in charge of Sega America and he made it not have 2D games or RPGs, then ultimately killed the Saturn. Sega would have been a strong number 2 to Nintendo after the the N64 would have been a 3D cd based console since the Saturn wasn't originally going to be a 3D machine. In fact the N64 may not have been a 64 bit system, and the Dreamcast may not have been a 128 bit system. Microsoft would have entered the console market because then it would have been only Nintendo and Sega against each other. Sony would have only have made the cd attachment and hardware for Nintendo, it wouldn't have been an equal joint venture. It all rested on Sony not wanting to be a major player in the video game world, they did, so we got the Playtstation and here we are now.
    SEGA was just a horribly managed company, always were, and STILL are. They got incredibly lucky with the Genesis, in that they were the first big competitor to the exploding NES, and had a far advanced system. In many ways they stood on Nintendo's shoulders on that one. SEGA, unlike Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, did not have the billions and billions of revenue/cash behind them to be able to make mistakes. They were kind of like a mid or small market baseball franchise, if they got it right, they had the flexibility to win, but if they had missteps it would hurt bad. And it did. For a Japanese company I really am shocked at how they allowed Sega of America to make so many important decisions or at least go with their calls.

    They are dead for good in the console making business. They don't have the capital to get back in.

    Quote Originally Posted by A.C. Sativa View Post
    Knowing Atari they would have fucked it all up (especially with Jack Tramiel in charge of Atari by then), we would have never recovered from the Crash of 83, and the console industry in the U.S. might not even exist, or at least certainly wouldn't be the billion-dollar business it is today.
    Ray Kassar was running Atari at the time for Warners, and it's unlikely they would have been able to just dump the home division onto Tramiel's lap with the Nintendo contract signed in 1983. Part of what derailed the deal was that Atari stalled and stalled waiting to see the capabilities of the MARIA chip (7800). It's possible that had the deal been signed, Atari's financial fiasco may have taken the NES with it before it ever got to US stores. Really no way of knowing. Plus it would have begun by Christmas '83, two years before Super Mario Bros. came about. Both Atari, regardless who owned them, and Nintendo, would be getting destroyed by the crash after effects. Famicom in 1984 didn't have much of a lineup different from Colecovision or any other system. I don't know if they would have lasted 2 years under that scenario. The deal was supposed to be 4 years, with a re-eval for another 4 year period. So again Nintendo could have dumped Atari by 1987 if they so choose.
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