If most computers produced today came equipped with it, I'd sure as heck argue for it being an element that constitutes a modern computer.

If we're going to suddenly start to bring in computer standards here, not only are the main two consoles presently on the marketplace not modern, they're absolutely archaic at 7-8 years of age. And that simply just doesn't wash with me that they're anything but a modern game console.

At the rate some of you folks are going, if the Xbox One and Playstation 4 enjoy much longer lifespans than this generation did before intended successors are released, you'll be calling for it to be moved over to classic gaming before successors are ever even announced if this site somehow manages to still exist by then.