Pier Solar, the new Genesis RPG can now be pre-ordered!

[Wraith Storm]

I was going to order the Posterity Edition but was confused by the Language Options.

I really want the one that is English and Japanese. This way when I eventually get around to taking Japanese at college, this game could help me out. I could play it in English and get to know the lines and the story and then when i'm ready try to play it in Japanese and read it.

My main question is; How do you select the language option? Will it be changeable in the options menu. Also, If I start a game in English and get halfway throught the game and save it, the next time I load the save game file could I switch the language to Japanese or is the language that you initially choose the only language you can use with that particular save file?

[Zebbe]

Changing language halfway through should work. It works on MIJET's patches. I don't know where you select language, please ask that at our official board (www.piersolar.com) and our programmer can help you.

[fonzie]

You can select language in real time (in the option menu), of course :)
Enjoy!

Fonzie

[megasdkirby]

Posterity orders last until October 29th, OR until 500 of those orders have been made.

But that's the thing...if the offer is still up on the website, then that means either...

-The limit has not been reached
-The limit was lifted

I gotta wait a few more days. But I'm thinking whether or not it's really that important...the value of the title won't be any different, since it will be the same copy. Now unless a different packaging is used, with label and everything, I can see it being sought after. But if it's the same game, I don't see how value differs.

[108Stars]

The added value comes from a sticker or something marking the Posterity Edition, some little extras, and of course your name in the game.

It´s correct, the limit has not been reached yet; and we have no intention on raising or lifting it altogether.

The most important thing about Posterity is to help us get the production running and cover all extra costs with the additional 15 Dollars. 35 $ is basically just the manufacturing and shipping cost, which would mean we would have to sell all copies before we can pay for production. The Posterity money gives us the chance to start production early, cover all unexpected costs and you get the name in the credits and some extras= everybody is happy. :)
And 15 $ extra really is not that much, especially for such a big package.

[carlcarlson]

And 15 $ extra really is not that much, especially for such a big package.

A package that we still haven't seen. I'm not preordering anything until I can actually see what I'm paying for.

[108Stars]

I´m afraid nobody will see what is included in the Posterity pack before Christmas; it is a surprise. We have announced on several occasions what will come with the standard edition though, and that alone would be more than enough for the price, but we give it away for only 35$; 64 Mit-cartridge, CD-ROM, poster, stickers, full color manual and a special box, with worldwide shipping included. So I think it is hard to get screwed anyway, since the standard edition is already such a package for a very low price. All we can say about the Posterity Edition is that it will be marked and you will have your name in the game´s credits and in the manual; for the rest all we can ask for is your trust, and thankfully many people do trust us.
Of course I can understand if your money is low and it still seems too uncertain to be worth it, so maybe it is better if you just order the standard edition where you do know what you get if it makes you feel safer.

[Coldguy]

I might reserve later, money tight at moment.

[megasdkirby]

The added value comes from a sticker or something marking the Posterity Edition, some little extras, and of course your name in the game.

It´s correct, the limit has not been reached yet; and we have no intention on raising or lifting it altogether.

The most important thing about Posterity is to help us get the production running and cover all extra costs with the additional 15 Dollars. 35 $ is basically just the manufacturing and shipping cost, which would mean we would have to sell all copies before we can pay for production. The Posterity money gives us the chance to start production early, cover all unexpected costs and you get the name in the credits and some extras= everybody is happy. :)
And 15 $ extra really is not that much, especially for such a big package.

I'm definitely tempted for the extras, but the posterity edition should have something noticeable, like different cover or something, to make it stand out from the regular version.

This game is bound to become a collector's item in the future, and making sure the Posterity edition is different from the normal version is VERY important.

If this difference can be noted, without a shadow of a doubt, I will pre-order the Posterity edition.

[carlcarlson]

I´m afraid nobody will see what is included in the Posterity pack before Christmas; it is a surprise. We have announced on several occasions what will come with the standard edition though, and that alone would be more than enough for the price, but we give it away for only 35$; 64 Mit-cartridge, CD-ROM, poster, stickers, full color manual and a special box, with worldwide shipping included. So I think it is hard to get screwed anyway, since the standard edition is already such a package for a very low price. All we can say about the Posterity Edition is that it will be marked and you will have your name in the game´s credits and in the manual; for the rest all we can ask for is your trust, and thankfully many people do trust us.
Of course I can understand if your money is low and it still seems too uncertain to be worth it, so maybe it is better if you just order the standard edition where you do know what you get if it makes you feel safer.

It's not that I don't trust you guys. You're bringing a new rpg (my favorite genre) to the Genesis (one of my favorite systems). That makes you guys aces in my book. I just don't like paying for something I've never seen. I want to see the artwork and case and everything.

I'm with Kirby. I think it would be great if the Posterity version had some noticeable difference to the packaging. A different cover would be nice, but that's asking a lot.

[MachineGex]

I am excited to play this and pre-ordered one without a second thought. I can't imagine they are making much on them. I appreciate all the hard work and effort they have put into getting a new game out. I am happy to support any new game effort, and this one looks like it is top notch.

[maxlords]

Yeesh. Buy em to play em, not for the collectible value. If the Posterity Edition comes with extras, then that's how you'll be able to tell you have it :D Personally, I don't want a different cover for the PE (and that's what I preordered). Usually the alternate covers aren't as good as the regular ones anyway.

[megasdkirby]

Doesn't need to be a different cover per se, but at least something that identifies it from the original version.

Because truth be told, if there is no difference whatsoever (something that is identifiable, not just a freebie inside the game that when removed makes it look identical to the normal version) between versions, I will get the "original" version.

[Zebbe]

The sticker should easily asure you that the game is of the posterity edition and not the classic edition. If posterity and classic would be too different, printing costs would be much higher and the production process more complicated.

[108Stars]

Also your name is coded into the game, a proof that you are definately owner of the Posterity pack!:D

[vintagegamecrazy]

If I have some money I'll have to preorder this as well.

[InsaneDavid]

I don't see why this is so hard to understand. Both versions of the game be the same. If you order the Posterity pack you're basically chipping the development team a few extra dollars to ease the burden of the business side of the game's release. As a thank you for doing this, your name is added into the game, all versions (since there's only one). It's not some bullshit LE release from a commercial publisher that has a shiny case or something. Your identity is proof that you have the Prosterity pack.

I'll be honest that I haven't ordered it yet, but that was because I found the demo a little slow (as in walking speed). Granted I really didn't have time to sit down and really give it a solid play, which I will do shortly.

[dao2]

I don't see why this is so hard to understand. Both versions of the game be the same. If you order the Posterity pack you're basically chipping the development team a few extra dollars to ease the burden of the business side of the game's release. As a thank you for doing this, your name is added into the game, all versions (since there's only one). It's not some bullshit LE release from a commercial publisher that has a shiny case or something. Your identity is proof that you have the Prosterity pack.

I'll be honest that I haven't ordered it yet, but that was because I found the demo a little slow (as in walking speed). Granted I really didn't have time to sit down and really give it a solid play, which I will do shortly.

They said there is a run button, it just wasn't activated for the demo for some reason i forgot.

[108Stars]

So, once more an explanation about the Posterity Pack: As InsaneDavid said it is meant as a way to support us, since we sell the normal game at production price; but naturally, some unexpected expenses might still come, AND we do not want to sell all copies before we can pay the factury to produce the carts; so the income from the posterity pack is basically an airbag, giving us the possibility to deal with additional costs and to release the game before all copies are sold. The name in manual and credits is indeed a way to thank supporters, and we hope it is a nice memento for them.

However, we will put some aditional stuff into the Posteity PAck, it is just something we did not want to make a big fuss about to raise expectations needlessly; neither do we aim at the Posterity Pack to be an item for people just to sell on eBay in order to make much money with it. The people who order should first of all be people who appreciate our effort and are willing to help this way;the possible bonuses they get should not be the motivation.

So we would appreciate if we could just leave it at that, the Posterity Edition has a mark in some way, and it´s buyers are mentioned in manual and credits; all else is up to surprise.

Now, about the run-button: We do have one, but it was indeed deactivated in the demo. The scroplling has been smoothened as well, the menue system has been completely redone from scratch, the colors have been optimized...the demo you have was originally intended for a January 1st, 2008 release; all that came later were small bug fixes here and there. It is an early beta, and should prove more than anything that this is not some hoax, eventhough it does not reflect much of the real game at all. We hope to present you pics of the improvements very soon, just see this demo as what it is: an early WIP.

[InsaneDavid]

Thanks for the clarification about the run button. I'll give the demo another look shortly. Everything else seemed great, I was just kind of in a hurry that day. LOL

[maxlords]

neither do we aim at the Posterity Pack to be an item for people just to sell on eBay in order to make much money with it.

So we would appreciate if we could just leave it at that, the Posterity Edition has a mark in some way, and it´s buyers are mentioned in manual and credits; all else is up to surprise.

I like this first statement :) Nice to see that while you're making it a nice special item, it's not supposed to be a "just to cash in on thing." However...it's too bad you have to mark the PE with a special mark, cause that'll turn it into a more collectible thing anyway. Bleah. Too bad you can't just send a personalized letter or something instead.

[megasdkirby]

The name in manual and credits is indeed a way to thank supporters, and we hope it is a nice memento for them.

Ok, so thus...

The posterity pack will have the people's names in it. That's cool. But what about the normal version? Does that means that something will not be available in the normal version?

[InsaneDavid]

Ok, so thus...

The posterity pack will have the people's names in it. That's cool. But what about the normal version? Does that means that something will not be available in the normal version?

Again, they're EXACTLY THE SAME GAME. If you pay for the Posterity Pack you get your name in the game, but the game you get is the EXACT SAME GAME as the normal version. For kicking the extra money into the project your name is included in the game as a special thank you, but the game is the game is the game. It's the same game if you order the standard release, except you were not given the chance to have your name included in the game. :deadhorse:

Having these games maufactured works like this (example)...

1. Manufacturing company says they only do runs of 500 cartridges that must be paid upfront before production begins.

2. Since the game is being sold for about the production cost, all 500 must be sold so that the designers break even. Because of this none ship until all are ordered.

3. To raise the money to meet a specific release date, a special option is presented (in this case, the Prosperity Pack) in which for paying a little more to help get the release out the door, your name will be added to the game code and manual.

4. The extra money earned with the Prosperity pack allows the entire production run to be paid for before they are all ordered. So instead of waiting for all 500 units to be sold before paying for the entire production run, however many have been ordered at that point can be shipped on a specific date.

5. Since extra money was raised due to the sale of the Prosperity pack, the entire production run could be paid for before the full production order was sold. Then the remaining inventory is shipped as sold.

In other words "I'm making a game but I need a little help reaching my required production numbers. If you pay a little more so I can get the game out on time, (because then I can pay the production cost by a specific date) I'll put your name in it." That's what the Prosperity pack is. "Don't want to pay extra? Fine, you'll get the same game but your name won't be in it and you have to wait along with everyone else until I have all the money raised for the full production run - which means I have all the cartridges sold."

[boatofcar]

Ok, so thus...

The posterity pack will have the people's names in it. That's cool. But what about the normal version? Does that means that something will not be available in the normal version?

Dude, if you're that concerned about it, just save the $15 and get the regular version. He already said what's included in the posterity pack outside of your name in the credits will be nothing special other than a memento to thank you for contributing to the game.

[Zebbe]

In addition to the name in the manual and credits, the PE will have that little sticker and some little goodie that won't be in the CE. But the game will be the exact same on both editions, as said above. The difference is $15. The choice is yours. Collectible or not in the future, we're giving everybody a chance to get the PE now and it is still here, apparently.

[megasdkirby]

Again, they're EXACTLY THE SAME GAME. If you pay for the Posterity Pack you get your name in the game, but the game you get is the EXACT SAME GAME as the normal version. For kicking the extra money into the project your name is included in the game as a special thank you, but the game is the game is the game. It's the same game if you order the standard release, except you were not given the chance to have your name included in the game. :deadhorse:

Exactly my point.

You decide to pay for the game. You get your name it it. I only pay for "normal" version. In your version, the game and manual will have your name in it. In my version, the game and manual will have your name in it. It's the same ROM.

THIS is what I say something should be different. The $15 is a donation, but the game as you put it, is exactly the same. Nothing to make it different. Now like what happened to Vectorman. It would be different if the posterity pack had the names and the normal version did not. Something in that vein.And the justification for the $15 is in part to help them release it in time, as you state.


"Don't want to pay extra? Fine, you'll get the same game but your name won't be in it and you have to wait along with everyone else until I have all the money raised for the full production run - which means I have all the cartridges sold."

Fine, I'll wait. Specially since it will be the same game on different production runs. :)

[Damaramu]

You decide to pay for the game. You get your name it it. I only pay for "normal" version. In your version, the game and manual will have your name in it. In my version, the game and manual will have your name in it. It's the same ROM.

Only the Special version of the game has your name in it. Your name and no one else's.

If you bought the regular version; there won't be any name in it (except for developer credits I assume).

[carlcarlson]

Only the Special version of the game has your name in it. Your name and no one else's.

If you bought the regular version; there won't be any name in it (except for developer credits I assume).

Nah, that can't be true. That would require them to make up to 501 different ROM images and print 501 different manuals. I'm guessing Kirby is right, the standard edition will still have all of the names. It WON'T have the sticker and whatever else is included though.

[108Stars]

The names will be in ALL games and cartridges, that is correct; we cannot produce so many different cartridges and then send each one to the correct person.:P

Indeed, the normal version will have those names as well, just not the sticker and the extras we put in.

[Zebbe]

carlcarlson is right. Both versions will have all the names in both the credits and the manual. Making different ROMs and manuals would cost a lot more.

[Iron Draggon]

I preordered a USA Classic version yesterday, but I'm curious if there's any way I can upgrade my order to a USA Posterity version? Also, I'm wondering why y'all don't have a way to make a donation without buying the game? I think it would be a good idea to allow people to contribute without making a purchase, especially if y'all are counting on extra donations making it possible for you to release the game on time. I'd certainly be inclined to chip in a little extra for a timely release, if it becomes a matter of a small amount making a difference between several more months of waiting or getting it out on time!

[108Stars]

First of all thx dor your order. You can indeed change your order to Posterity Edition, just contact the support-adree that should have come with the mail you got from us.

About a donation-button, we had thought about it, but then came up with the Posterity Edition-idea...I think that few people would just donate without a special offer, but maybe we should give it a try. I will talk to Fonzie about it. :)

[jupitersj]

support this :pimp: group!

If you're looking for posterity edition you better hurry cause I am 497 as of an hour ago!

I think there is 500 max

Hello to everyone....I have been gone a long time :beaten: When I'm awake later I'll make a coming back post hopefully :cheers:

[108Stars]

No, sadly not all 50 Posterity Packs are sold yet; that number has nothing to do with it.^^

But, to encourage more of you guys to order one of the Posterity Packs, I have new pics for you! You´ll see a lot of improvements from the demo!

Don´t forget, Posterity Packs can be ordered until October 29th, 2008!


http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_battlecanyon.jpg http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_battlereja.jpg

http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_canyon.jpg http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_edessot.jpg

http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_icecave.jpg http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_lightsandfears.jpg

http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_rejaforest.jpg http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_rockmountain.jpg

http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_timbervillage.jpg http://www.piersolar.com/data/piersolar_10_08_menu0.jpg

[Hwj_Chim]

Thank you for the pictures. They are what pushed me over the edge and made me order the posterity pack. good luck and I hope that this comes out sooner than later

[Wraith Storm]

I was already pumped about this game and had ordered the Poserity Edition, but those new screenshots are making me drool.

I hope this does indeed ship by christmas. I'll be shut up in my room playing it all through newyears! :D

[SpaceHarrier]

ZOMG! Are those dung beetles in the first pic?

Awesome

[mailman187666]

so whats the difference between the two again? ha ha just kidding. I'm thinking about ordering the classic edition but I wish I could see what the whole package looks like. Is there a link of pictures of anything that I can compare it to? is it going to be produced smilarly as Beggar Prince? (as far as packaging goes). If is going to be packaged like BP, can somebody send me a link to pics of that package? I kind of want to see more of what I'm going to be buying first is really what it comes down to, because I have yet to purchase game produced by homebrew teams before, but would like to look into it more.

[Zebbe]

When the package is ready to be shown, we will show it for you, promise! :) It will NOT be similar to the Beggar Prince package, that's for sure, but it will still look like a typical Mega Drive/Genesis game. Think about that one :).

[Xander]

This game looks damn interesting. Thank you guys for making this, it's simply awesome that people take of their time to make a game on an old console like that.

Now, I am probably going to order the big pack but I have some little concerns:

- Do you guys have a release date planed?
- Is there any chance that the game will never be released and we all lose our money?

Thank you.

[carlcarlson]

The graphics look great aside from the enemies in those two shots above. They look like an afterthought. I'm also not sold on the cutesy anime style of the characters in some shots, but that's not a big problem.


so whats the difference between the two again? ha ha just kidding. I'm thinking about ordering the classic edition but I wish I could see what the whole package looks like. Is there a link of pictures of anything that I can compare it to? is it going to be produced smilarly as Beggar Prince? (as far as packaging goes). If is going to be packaged like BP, can somebody send me a link to pics of that package? I kind of want to see more of what I'm going to be buying first is really what it comes down to, because I have yet to purchase game produced by homebrew teams before, but would like to look into it more.

I agree, I still want to see what I'm buying before I hand over any money.

[swlovinist]

The game looks great, I really appreciate all the updates. As for a "homebrew title", this is one of the biggest efforts I have ever seen. I cant wait to play it. Of the two sega genesis titles coming out this year(the other being a serious conversion), this is definately the must have.

[Zebbe]

- Do you guys have a release date planed?

Yes, December 24th :).


- Is there any chance that the game will never be released and we all lose our money?

No, if the game gets cancelled you will get your money back. But that won't happen, the game WILL be released.

[108Stars]

- Is there any chance that the game will never be released and we all lose our money?

No. Even if we did not release the game, payment is done through PayPal and they would have our asses (and you your money back). ;)



I agree, I still want to see what I'm buying before I hand over any money.

Excuse me, but what exactly is it you want to "see"? You see, beside the box art and the way things are placed inside the box you pretty much know what you are buying. We already revealed it will be sturdy cardboard box since the plastic clamshell cases like used in BP are too soft and have no place for a CD-ROM. The overall layout will resemble the old EU-blue-stripe, JAP-blue-stripe, and US-red-stripe box-designs. You will be getting a 24 pages full color manual as well.
Inside the box you have a 64 MBit cartridge and a CD.

That´s all there is to the standard edition, and whatever else might be in the Posterity Pack will remain a secret. If you would only buy Posterity because of extras, better let it be as we will not show you those. The moment anyone sees them is when the game arrives in their mail.

If it´s not about the Posterity Edition, but about the artwork found on any edition I can only assure you that it is handled by a professional graphics designer and will not be low-quality-stuff. But the cover of a game is nothing that should keep you from buying it anyway, it´s the gameplay that counts.

[Xander]

Hmm.. ok Zebbe.

I'll put my trust in you guys, I'll be ordering one of those collector copy when I hit home in a few hours if they are still available.

Thank you for your quick reply.

[Zebbe]

They are still available.

Thanks for your interest and support! :)

[carlcarlson]

Excuse me, but what exactly is it you want to "see"?

The cover art, the label, and the manual. Pretty simple really. I also wanted to see the case, but it sounds like there won't be one, which kind of kills it for me. Is that dumb? Probably, but I can't stand having Genesis games that aren't in the nice cases.

[108Stars]

Case? Of course there is, only that it is of cardboard instead of plastic. There is no way to do decent plastic cases for MD at the moment. You open it like a clamshell case. So yes, there is one.
Whay you would wait to see the cover art, manual and label first is really beyond me though...we cannot show what is not yet done.

[carlcarlson]

Case? Of course there is, only that it is of cardboard instead of plastic. There is no way to do decent plastic cases for MD at the moment. You open it like a clamshell case. So yes, there is one.
Whay you would wait to see the cover art, manual and label first is really beyond me though...we cannot show what is not yet done.

That's not a case, it's a box. Or, since it does open like a clamshell, it's a cardboard case. The material is the deterrent, not the way that it is opened.

I want to see the art because, honestly, I don't know if I'll ever play the game, so I would like it to at least look nice on the shelf. I want to see if you are emulating the Genesis cover art or botching it like the original BP (sorry guys, but it was messed up). It surprises me that you plan to release this game in just over two months and yet you haven't even gotten the cover art worked up yet. I always figured that was THE way to promote your game. Screenshots are great, but the cover is what goes in ads.

[Zebbe]

You buy games to put them on the shelf? :?

[Blitzwing256]

You buy games to put them on the shelf? :?

People collect things for the reasons they collect them,
please no thread crapping.


anyways, this does look and sound impressive, I'm thinking of picking up a copy myself (missed out on begger prince unfortuatnly). I always disliked the genesis, but a few of the rpgs stood out enough for me to stick with it and this looks on the same level as the ones i liked :-)

[108Stars]

The material is the deterrent, not the way that it is opened.

That is not true, I have checked that. ;)


I want to see the art because, honestly, I don't know if I'll ever play the game, so I would like it to at least look nice on the shelf. I want to see if you are emulating the Genesis cover art or botching it like the original BP (sorry guys, but it was messed up). It surprises me that you plan to release this game in just over two months and yet you haven't even gotten the cover art worked up yet. I always figured that was THE way to promote your game. Screenshots are great, but the cover is what goes in ads.

Sorry, but the cover art is about the last thing to worry about. We do not have ads either anyway. The screenshots and videos are much more important, and we mostly aim at people who actually want to play the game anyway, not just put it on the shelve. That´s one reason why we would not talk about Posterity extras etc much. If our game would end up sitting on shelves and collecting dust it would mean we have wasted a few years of our life.
We want to make a good game, something fun to play and impressive to watch, not just some collector´s item you can sell as ultr@ r@re on eBay in a few months.

Of course it is everyone´s own decision why he woants the game; but our focus is the game itself.

BP´s cover was certainly no good (no need to apologize to us, we have nothing to do with BP), I know that. I can say that ours will be better judging from the current design-WIPs. But we do not try to emulate art style found on old Genesis games either, because quite honestly many covers from back in the days suck ass (look at any of the Phantasy Star covers). Our cover artwork will go more in the direction of modern age games.

Generally speaking we try to make it an absolute highlight on the Genesis in about every aspect, be it technologically, in it´s gameplay or in the packaging. The game will not come short in any of these aspects, a lot of effort was put into everything; including the construction of our special cardboard-clamshell case. It is the luxury package on Genesis you could say, eventhough it is not made of plastic.

[carlcarlson]

You buy games to put them on the shelf? :?

Yeah man, I'm a collector, that's what we do. You won't see my grandma playing with her Precious Moments figures either ;)


Sorry, but the cover art is about the last thing to worry about. We do not have ads either anyway. The screenshots and videos are much more important, and we mostly aim at people who actually want to play the game anyway, not just put it on the shelve. That´s one reason why we would not talk about Posterity extras etc much. If our game would end up sitting on shelves and collecting dust it would mean we have wasted a few years of our life.
We want to make a good game, something fun to play and impressive to watch, not just some collector´s item you can sell as ultr@ r@re on eBay in a few months.

Of course it is everyone´s own decision why he woants the game; but our focus is the game itself.

BP´s cover was certainly no good (no need to apologize to us, we have nothing to do with BP), I know that. I can say that ours will be better judging from the current design-WIPs. But we do not try to emulate art style found on old Genesis games either, because quite honestly many covers from back in the days suck ass (look at any of the Phantasy Star covers). Our cover artwork will go more in the direction of modern age games.

Generally speaking we try to make it an absolute highlight on the Genesis in about every aspect, be it technologically, in it´s gameplay or in the packaging. The game will not come short in any of these aspects, a lot of effort was put into everything; including the construction of our special cardboard-clamshell case. It is the luxury package on Genesis you could say, eventhough it is not made of plastic.

No worries, if I get one you'll never see it on ebay. Remember, it's on the shelf!

What I meant by emulating the old Genesis covers is, are you going to do the red banded spine, or the black grid, or anything like that? BP attempted the grid but somehow got it wrong. I like the idea of trying to match the style, though. And I agree, the old covers did "suck ass" (but were awesome in their own way).

Alright, one last question. Do you at least have an example of these box/cases? I'm guessing you didn't invent this thing, can you point me in the direction of the manufacturer or something?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just really picky about what games I buy. For what it's worth, though, you're wearing me down.

[Daria]

Can't play the game 24/7 for the rest of your life. Has to sit somewhere when you're done. Might as well be sitting pretty in a kick ass package.

gamer/collector for the WINS.

[108Stars]

Uhm, we will go for the Genesis red-stripe, Mega-Drive-blue-stripe designs....so, not the black/white grid thingy. However, I still cannot get you a link to a manufacturer, because we indeed did invent the package ourselves and let it be produced after our prototype. I do have a photo of that prototype, but I am afraid I cannot post it because I signed an NDA.
I hope we will publish a pic soon, but I do not know.

[dao2]

Yeah man, I'm a collector, that's what we do. You won't see my grandma playing with her Precious Moments figures either ;)



No worries, if I get one you'll never see it on ebay. Remember, it's on the shelf!

What I meant by emulating the old Genesis covers is, are you going to do the red banded spine, or the black grid, or anything like that? BP attempted the grid but somehow got it wrong. I like the idea of trying to match the style, though. And I agree, the old covers did "suck ass" (but were awesome in their own way).

Alright, one last question. Do you at least have an example of these box/cases? I'm guessing you didn't invent this thing, can you point me in the direction of the manufacturer or something?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just really picky about what games I buy. For what it's worth, though, you're wearing me down.

From what I saw you can choose 3 different "versions" (all are region free, but come with different translations) A ntsc-u, pal, ntsc-j. Each will have a stripe respective to how they ran in the prior 16-bit days.

[108Stars]

@carlcarlson
You posted in the Wukong thread that seeing the cover there makes it easier for you to order....well, you see that it also brings some problems with it to do the stuff so early: I am a bit disappointed the Wukong cover has the word "Megadrive" written on it, which is wrong. It should be "Mega Drive".
Besides that it looks kind of cheap to me, abandoning the manga style of the game and replacing it with some photoshopped water-coloring. You can expect us to have something very professional; because we take the time for that and have very skilled designers.

So you see it does have advantages taking your time in order to avoid errors, right?;)

[carlcarlson]

@carlcarlson
You posted in the Wukong thread that seeing the cover there makes it easier for you to order....well, you see that it also brings some problems with it to do the stuff so early: I am a bit disappointed the Wukong cover has the word "Megadrive" written on it, which is wrong. It should be "Mega Drive".
Besides that it looks kind of cheap to me, abandoning the manga style of the game and replacing it with some photoshopped water-coloring. You can expect us to have something very professional; because we take the time for that and have very skilled designers.

So you see it does have advantages taking your time in order to avoid errors, right?;)

You won't see me defending Super Fighter Team's covers. The original Beggar Prince cover was insanely bad (sorry to the artists!). The second version was much better, but they still did a number of things wrong. I think the Wukong cover looks decent, though the shot of it is kind of hard to make out.

But yes, taking your time IS very important. Are we going to be seeing your cover when it shows up in our mailboxes, or do you plan to release it at some point before shipping (sorry if that's been covered already)?

[otaku]

Yeah beggar prince box 2.0 was much better. Hopefully you guys get it right the first time. Take your time. I'd rather wait for perfection than get something decent earlier. Also any chance of a guide of some sort (gamefaqs, youtube, print) one reason I haven't finished/tackled beggar prince is I need help with it

[Zebbe]

It's the 20th Anniversary for the Mega Drive/Genesis and it marks the last day for posterity pre-orders of Pier Solar. To anyone who has been doubtful or low on money, this day is your last chance to get your name in the game and give us some extra support. Although this day is the last for pre-orders, you don't necessarily have to pay today. To everyone, the bits and pieces are falling to place to become a very great game, stay tuned for more news later!

[Gemini-Phoenix]

I believe I was amongst one of the first to pre-order the posterity pack. I too was unlucky to miss out on Beggar Prince, and didn't want to miss out on what could possibly be the greatest Mega Drive RPG ever made!

There's just something about the quality of the official website that gave me the impression that the game will somehow be great by comparison! I do hope the same level of care and attention goes into the game as the flash site! The music is amazing by the way, and it's hard to believe the Mega Drive could be capable of such glorious sounds and graphics!

Truly a real collecctor's item, and I look forward to spotting a few familiar names somewhere in the game!

[Zebbe]

Thanks for your feedback and support! By the way, you can still order Beggar Prince on the official website. :)

[swlovinist]

Two new RPGs coming out for the Genesis = Good times this next year :)

[Gemini-Phoenix]

Posterity orders last until October 29th, OR until 500 of those orders have been made.

So, the deadline has now passed. Can you reveal how many Posterity packs you managed to sell in total?

I have also just read through the entire thread. I think a few people are a bit confused regarding a few things. I think it would do good for everyone to take the time to read through carefully and learn what has happened during the last year.

I am glad that the choice of two versions has since been merged to the Mega Drive cart with a bonus Mega Cd for soundtrack. I think this is the best of both worlds. I am wondering though whether the soundtrack Cd will also be playable in a standard Cd player, or include MP3 files of the soundtrack? As mentioned further back in the thread, I hope the disc is professionally pressed and not just a Cd-r

Also, I don't know why people can't understand that both the standard and Posterity packs are going to include the same game. Regardless of what version you ordered, the people who ordered the Posterity pack will have their name in the game and manual. I would hope that whatever the final packaging outcome is, the Posterity pack will include everything that the standard pack does (Similar to the Bioshock LE with statue also had the Steelbook version included, but not how the Legendary Edition of Halo III only included the standard copy and not the CE version)


Also, one last thing: I would like to say that I hope that everyone who has so far ordered the game has done so for their own use and NOT to gain a quick profit on eBay. I would also like to think that the people who ordered the Posterity pack did so for all the right reasons - To help the developers - And intend on keeping the game themselves

[Wraith Storm]

I would like to say that I hope that everyone who has so far ordered the game has done so for their own use and NOT to gain a quick profit on eBay. I would also like to think that the people who ordered the Posterity pack did so for all the right reasons - To help the developers - And intend on keeping the game themselves

Couldn't have said it better myself!

It would make me very sad to see some of these on Ebay after it's release. Although I can't see them fetching much more than their original price unless they stop producing them. So hopefully it won't be much of an issue.

[otaku]

I ordered my posterity pack to help get this game out there I didn't even know it was limited to 500 or fewer copies. Makes it even cooler.

[108Stars]

We really want to express our thanks to all who have ordered, especially to those who bought the Posterity Pack. I cannot say how many we have sold atm (but obviously it was not 500, since we did reach October 29th), but I was really happy to see so many gamers willing to pay some extra money to support us! It´s a thing I did not expect in this day and age.

As for the classic version, of course ordering for that will go on right until the game is produced and we are sold out. So if you did pass on the Posterity Edition, the classic edition is still there for you to order. :P

You are all great, thanks a lot!!!:rocker:

[Gemini-Phoenix]

I hope the game is significant in length compared to other Mega Drive RPG's, and many GBA RPG's that have since come after. I also hope there is a compelling storyline and hope the game is not too heavy on the grinding, which some weaker RPG's tend to use in order to stretch the longevity. I hope that 15 years RPG experience has not gone to waste, and I would expect a game on-par with something like Golden Sun

I'm intrigued about something. Are you able to reveal an estimated length of the game? Also, if you had to lay out some comparisons (In any aspects of the game, Ie, music, graphics, length etc) to other RPG's, what would you compare it to?

I would guess that the game is created as a celebration of the 20th anniversary of the Mega Drive - Are there any small in-game references to other games? Eg, famous lines of text from other games like "Someone set us up the bomb", or maybe in-jokes like "All your herbs are belong to us"? Lol.

Obviously there is still a market and fan base out there for 'Traditional' isometric 16 bit RPG's, as can be proven by various GBA and DS games available.

[108Stars]

It´s hard to judge the time you will need to play through the game; I expect 30+ hours though.

Graphically I would compare it to Final Fantasy VI. It has similar style overall, with some advantages for Pier Solar like the cutscenes, animated monsters and generally more character animation.
Our characters are smaller than in Chrono Trigger; basically our maximal character height is just the same as Crono, but if we made them so tall they could notmove their arms or legs to the left or right in animations etc, so we draw them smaller to give them some room for movement. Of course in Pier Solar the party consists of up to 5 people at once compared to CT´s 3, so that has something to do with it. Also we have very big and many animated enemies on screen in comparison; up to 8 monsters (32*32 up to 96*96 pixels for each monster afair) on screen, up to 4 of them different. That is really a lot. FF VI had very detailed, but completely static monsters, CT had animated but smaller monsters. So in that regard we are probably even the best in 16-Bit-RPGs, having a large number of animated characters and monsters on screen.

For other aspects such comparisons are hard for me, being a gfx guy.^^ the sideview battle system might remind you of Final Fantasy, but there is no active time battle. The gather system is comparable to an element of Dragon Quest VIII, and it might have some timing-sensitive elements like The Legend of Dragoon.

Also dialoguies are rather well written and somewhat longer than in most 16-Bit-RPGs; in most 16-Bit RPGs you feel how much the translation had to be abridged to fit in the limited ROM-size;characters get straight to the point, and all seems a little rushed. That will be different in our game.

So, and now for something completely different:
Our programer Fonzie Voltonov was invited to the Retro Gaming Connexion in France and held a small presentation of Pier Solar. He also had a WIP of the box with him, and we can now present you pics of the event!

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7525/img7596mr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/img7596mr1.jpg/1/w900.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img133/img7596mr1.jpg/1/)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/615/img7593jg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/img7593jg2.jpg/1/w900.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img133/img7593jg2.jpg/1/)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3773/boxkb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/boxkb8.jpg/1/w900.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img133/boxkb8.jpg/1/)

[DragonmasterAlex]

wow! this box looks great.
I'll probably buy all 3 versions =)

[Wraith Storm]

:eek 2: That box looks FREAKING awesome! :hail:

The design looks like you used some solid cardboard and where the light reflects it looks nice and glossy! I also REALLY like all the detail on the box like 64Mbit comment and the solar system looking line art around the cart.

The cover looks pretty cool but it to far away to make out clearly. I hope to see some additional pics of the box sometime soon. But so far I have to hand it to you. Great job and i'm glad I ordered the Posterity edition! :D

[Gemini-Phoenix]

From a collector's point of view, and being a collector as well as a gamer and having purchased the game both to play as well as for posterity... My main issue is: The WIP box looks very appealing and reflects the care and attention taken in creation of the game, although are there any plans to protect it externally after production in any way? Ie, like a plastic slipcase similar to what many collector's currently use to protect their sealed SNES and N64 games? I am sure these would be very cheap to include, and add to the quality feel to the game

For example:

eBay - Game protecting cases - SNES size (http://cgi.ebay.com/SNES-N64-plastic-box-protectors-10-nintendo_W0QQitemZ330273636522QQcmdZViewItem?_trks id=p3286.m20.l1116)

The above is just an example of the type of protecting case I am referring to, but would allow you to combine the quality design feel of the cardboard case with the durability and longevity of the plastic cover


I perhaps don't have to remind many people of Sonic & Knuckles, and many of Sega's 32X games and how fragile they are, being cardboard cases, and how many get worn and torn quite easily - I would imagine that many potential customers, both gamers and collector's alike, would enjoy a package that is both well designed, but is also going to stand the test of time.

[108Stars]

No, sorry, we will not include such a protection. We don´t use cheapo cardboard like Sega or Big N did either (looking at my copy of X-Perts, the only Sega cardboard game I own, it feels almost like freakin´ paper!), it should be sturdy enough to stand the test of time by itself if you don´t abuse it.
Even if they are rather cheap, the little money we earned from the posterity edition is pretty much dedicated to other things already and we can´t afford anymore things; we might not even get even in the end seeing how extremely tight our calculations are.

[neojapan]

OhOh! Anyone else got an email saying the game will be delayed till next year? T_T I wanted to play it on xmas :( and I preordered 2 copies :(

[Wraith Storm]

I have the Posterity Edition on order, but so far have got no such e-mail regarding the game being pushed back till next year.

I'm REALLY looking forward to getting this and Legend of Wukong around the holiday break. So I hope there has been no delay. Then again, I have been waiting for Black Sigil to come out on the GBA/DS for years... so i'm used to waiting for games I REALLY want. :-D