Pier Solar, the new Genesis RPG can now be pre-ordered! [Archive] - Page 6

understatement

11-03-2009, 12:35 PM

What was so special about the Europe version to make it go so fast? It has this out to the side of the Europe option "AD VITAM 16BIT-AETERNAM" and the box pic. has what lookes like MGENESIS on the side with a blue and red spine.

Is it the only one with no region locking and what does "ad vitam 16bit-aeternam" mean?

MASTERWEEDO

11-03-2009, 01:00 PM

I would pressume the $50 preorder thing, the one with the names of those who preordered the special pack, still is valid, right?

i doubt it, i found this on their site

Date: 06/10/2009
Hello friends of Pier Solar.

This is Tulio speaking with some cool news. Finally, 1 year after a big punch when we lost much of our pixel art, we finished the development of all critical pixel art and move on to final graphical touches. Also, after 1 month confined with Fonzie in a "bootcamp" experience I'm very happy to say that the main game programming (so called game scripting) has been completed. With those two steps, the game now moves on to the phase of internal testing, or as I'll call it, final beta stage.

That's a very important mark as it means that the game scope is closed to additions and improvements (oh my God, there were so many). We implemented all the new features that will bring Pier Solar to excellence both as Software and as a game.

megasdkirby

11-03-2009, 01:29 PM

My bad.

I meant that those who paid for the $50 version will be honered with the extras stated previously, right?

udisi

11-03-2009, 06:23 PM

I would think it would be honored. As excited as I am about this game, it's been a Duke Nuke em forever of delays. I'm waiting to see more updates. this game could take another year to come out.

Wolfrider31

11-05-2009, 11:00 AM

I would think it would be honored. As excited as I am about this game, it's been a Duke Nuke em forever of delays. I'm waiting to see more updates. this game could take another year to come out.

All preorders will be honored of course.

I'm not really following the Duke Nukem statement. The game was only delayed for a year. I wonder how Alpha Protocol is doing?

megasdkirby

11-05-2009, 11:17 AM

All preorders will be honored of course.

I'm not really following the Duke Nukem statement. The game was only delayed for a year. I wonder how Alpha Protocol is doing?

True, but since it's now going to "bugs/glitches testing", I would say it will be delayed another 6 months or so.

I think that bt December 2010, it should be released.

RASK1904

12-22-2009, 04:55 AM

Any news?

Cauterize

12-22-2009, 10:08 AM

Any news?

Best checking this thread. Its usually the first to be updated regarding Pier Solar:
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3210&page=83

MASTERWEEDO

12-22-2009, 10:10 AM

No updates in over 2 months. :(

Zoltor

12-22-2009, 11:21 AM

Omg, is this for real, I want this game so bad.

When is it gonna be released?

PS. I so need to tell my friends about this, they're gonna freak out.

understatement

12-22-2009, 11:42 AM

When is it gonna be released?

I don't think anyone knows, it was supposed to be out at the end of 08 and now it looks like some time in 2010.

Arkhan

12-22-2009, 12:07 PM

lol, the mention of a 2 year delay, and your avatar made me LOL over here.

:)

Zoltor

12-22-2009, 12:18 PM

I don't think anyone knows, it was supposed to be out at the end of 08 and now it looks like some time in 2010.

Sigh, well I hope it doesn't get canceled, and there's an update soon.

understatement

12-22-2009, 12:45 PM

lol, the mention of a 2 year delay, and your avatar made me LOL over here.

:)

I'm guessing that was for me and WD all I can say is it takes time to get to 11 :p

Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining but it does suck that one of the only reasons for this long of a delay is because of a HDD crash or something where most of the pixel art was lost. If it wasn't for that we would more than likely be playing this by now.

MASTERWEEDO

12-22-2009, 01:11 PM

I'm guessing that was for me and WD all I can say is it takes time to get to 11 :p

Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining but it does suck that one of the only reasons for this long of a delay is because of a HDD crash or something where most of the pixel art was lost. If it wasn't for that we would more than likely be playing this by now.

I thought one of the people that made the art got upset and wouldnt let then use what he created? i think i remember that being said. either way, they had to build stuff all over again and that took alot of time. i think its in the testing phase, so it should be out shortly. hopefully.

understatement

12-22-2009, 01:48 PM

I thought one of the people that made the art got upset and wouldnt let then use what he created? i think i remember that being said. either way, they had to build stuff all over again and that took alot of time. i think its in the testing phase, so it should be out shortly. hopefully.

IDK that's why the or something was there the HDD crash was an assumption all I know is that they lost it and if what you say is true what kind of BS is that! :angry:

mobiusclimber

12-22-2009, 02:24 PM

The big problem is that they need to keep people informed of where they are in the development of this game since people have paid money for it. No one would care that much otherwise, but since they've got our money, they need to make with the regular updates, even if it's just a list w/ things getting crossed off. Letting months go by without an update on the status is really not acceptable and I think it's caused at least a few people who've paid for the game already to be pissed off and disheartened. Me, I don't really care as long as I get my game, tho if it drags on for a lot longer, I'll probably join the ranks of the pissed off and disheartened.

williewonka2k1

12-22-2009, 03:09 PM

they already spent all of your silly monies and have no money to finance the game. or at least that's my guess. lol

Soviet Conscript

12-22-2009, 03:14 PM

i always forget about this game and then every once in awhile this thread will pop up again and i think, "oh yhea i remember paying $40 some dollars over a year ago for that"

i would rather they take thier time with it then release something half done but when the delays take so long you have people that preordered forgetting they even did.......or maybe thats the plan!

mobiusclimber

12-22-2009, 04:24 PM

i would rather they take thier time with it then release something half done but when the delays take so long you have people that preordered forgetting they even did.......or maybe thats the plan!

I'd rather they put out a polished game than rush something out (after two years, I'm not sure "rush" is even the right word), but regular updates stating how far along they are would be nice. The last update was the beginning of October. Before that it was early September. And in fact I'd say most of their updates are ridiculously vague. Just post a list of what still needs to be done and update by scratching things off the list. At least then it would seem like something is actually happening with the game. (The last update at least got this right, but before that it was all pretty vague "we're hunkering down" and things like that.)

swlovinist

12-22-2009, 05:48 PM

I'd rather they put out a polished game than rush something out (after two years, I'm not sure "rush" is even the right word), but regular updates stating how far along they are would be nice. The last update was the beginning of October. Before that it was early September. And in fact I'd say most of their updates are ridiculously vague. Just post a list of what still needs to be done and update by scratching things off the list. At least then it would seem like something is actually happening with the game. (The last update at least got this right, but before that it was all pretty vague "we're hunkering down" and things like that.)

I have faith that the game will be done. When this is released, I do believe that this will be the biggest "aftermarket" release of a game. There are countless other stories of these types of projects dragging on way longer than anticipated. Adventure II for the 5200 comes to mind. I would expect an update soon I guess. Count me in the "optimistic" category. I too, would like an update.

timewarpgamer

12-23-2009, 06:12 PM

The game looks fantastic. I preordered it a while ago. Just hoping that it actually gets released one of these days...

Ah, whatever, $35 is a small price for gambling on something with so much potential.

Sosage

12-23-2009, 06:36 PM

A Black Falcon

12-23-2009, 10:44 PM

I pre-ordered this a loooong time ago and just try to think of it as an eventual surprise in my mailbox. The only thing I am worried about is that this is being delayed because of feature creep. You can eventually paint yourself into a corner and never finish anything when that happens.

... You're talking about Duke Nukem Forever there, aren't you. Seems to have been sadly true. :(

(I still believe we'll see something someday! :D)

Sosage

12-24-2009, 12:38 AM

... You're talking about Duke Nukem Forever there, aren't you. Seems to have been sadly true. :(

(I still believe we'll see something someday! :D)

Not just DNF, but that is probably the ultimate example. :P A lot of green developers fall into that trap.

Thrashdance

01-07-2010, 01:20 AM

News?

MachineGex

01-07-2010, 10:27 AM

News?

How dare you ask about something we paid for almost a 1 1/2 years ago! We were suppose to stop asking for updates over a year ago, did you get the memo?

I am shocked(ok, not really shocked but slightly surprised) this didn't get a Christmas release.

Thrashdance

01-07-2010, 11:54 AM

How dare you ask about something we paid for almost a 1 1/2 years ago! We were suppose to stop asking for updates over a year ago, did you get the memo?

I am shocked(ok, not really shocked but slightly surprised) this didn't get a Christmas release.

Geez man...a year and a half?!?! I was about to lay down dough on their site yesterday but I found it a little odd that they had'nt updated since like late 08 early 09. I would really like to see it finished like everybody else I'm sure. Has anybody tryed contacting the dude that was promoting the game thats a member here?....I think his name is 108 stars?

carlcarlson

01-07-2010, 12:03 PM

The team still seems to be active on their forums, so it's not like the project has just disappeared. Still, I don't feel comfortable pre-ordering.

megasdkirby

01-07-2010, 12:07 PM

The team still seems to be active on their forums, so it's not like the project has just disappeared. Still, I don't feel comfortable pre-ordering.

Those who preordered should have an option to get their money back.

If I am not mistaken, it's been over a year since the preorders began, yet the product has yet to be finished.

This beats Working Designs by a long shot (I think). LOL

Damaramu

01-07-2010, 01:51 PM

Yeah, I almost ordered this a couple of times now....but it's in development hell and I just don't want to risk it. I'm playing a strict wait and see game here.

Cornelius

01-07-2010, 02:39 PM

I'm fairly sure I read somewhere (probably in this thread) that they would refund preorders upon request. I don't have the interest to search for it, though.

pepharytheworm

01-07-2010, 02:45 PM

Geez man...a year and a half?!?! I was about to lay down dough on their site yesterday but I found it a little odd that they had'nt updated since like late 08 early 09. I would really like to see it finished like everybody else I'm sure. Has anybody tryed contacting the dude that was promoting the game thats a member here?....I think his name is 108 stars?

The last time they updated was in October. The do their dates like europe. Day/Month/Year.

Zebbe

01-07-2010, 02:50 PM

esquire

01-07-2010, 03:11 PM

Been a while since we updated this but our final beta candidate is ready. All we have left to do is some tuning, implementation of a few assets and dropping in our translated script. And bug fixing. Oh lordy.

All the details can be found at www.piersolar.com (http://www.piersolar.com)

BTW: The date of the post is wrong. Dunno why.

The above post was AFTER the 10/6/09 news on the Pier Solar website (http://www.piersolar.com/pier-solar-news.php) indicating that the pixel art was all lost. So judging by the content of this post, the pixel art was already re-done by 11/2/09, and they were beta testing the game. Hopefully the release will be very soon.

Also, here is the latest post on their forums regarding the status of the game and its release:

http://www.piersolar.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=453

mobiusclimber

01-07-2010, 07:02 PM

This beats Working Designs by a long shot (I think). LOL

a) Most of the time WD only had to translate the game, not make it from scratch, so not only isn't it a solid analogy but comparatively WD was taking as long or longer just to translate a game as others are taking to make one (well, translate, record voices, etc).

b) Magic Knight Rayearth took, I believe, twice as long as Pier Solar has taken (because WD had to recreate the game since the source code was lost).

Of course I don't want to pretend like I know all what went on behind the scenes at WD that could have caused delays. (And sorry if I'm coming off like an ass for pointing this stuff out, just thought it was interested food for thought, basically.)

Sosage

01-07-2010, 07:47 PM

a) Most of the time WD only had to translate the game, not make it from scratch, so not only isn't it a solid analogy but comparatively WD was taking as long or longer just to translate a game as others are taking to make one (well, translate, record voices, etc).

b) Magic Knight Rayearth took, I believe, twice as long as Pier Solar has taken (because WD had to recreate the game since the source code was lost).

Of course I don't want to pretend like I know all what went on behind the scenes at WD that could have caused delays. (And sorry if I'm coming off like an ass for pointing this stuff out, just thought it was interested food for thought, basically.)

A possible minor C) could also be that they would sometimes dick around with elements outside of translation that they should have really left alone (gameplay).

It's an original project being worked on on people's spare time. The PS team deserves a lot of leeway just based off of that. I think I'd be more disappointed if the project was scrapped and I was handed my 40 bucks back. I can't wait for a surprise Genny + Sega CD in the mail. :P

Mason P.

01-08-2010, 12:33 PM

I often forget about my pre-order. I would love to play it, but i do feel that we deserve a constant update and a definate date for release.

moocolon

01-08-2010, 06:47 PM

I pre-ordered a year and a half ago... I'll probably end up moving before it's ever released and it'll end up being a nice present for the new tenant. I have basically accepted that my $50 is gone.

Daria

01-08-2010, 06:50 PM

You can ask for a refund of your pre-order money here:
http://www.piersolar.com/pier-solar-contact.php

The game is still in development, we are working many hours every day. The major tasks left are implenting the translations and the battle system parameters. My task is checking all maps for final polishing.

I know I really should preorder and that copies could run out at any time but... I don't know what my question is. But are you going to post when copies run low? I don't want to miss out on the game.

Wolfrider31

01-08-2010, 07:44 PM

The EU version has sold out due to pre-orders but I think we still have plenty of copies available for the JPN and US versions. Pre-ordering is always appreciated, but I think you'd still be safe to wait until the game's launch date.

Which, BTW, is getting closer and closer. We're doing testing now and just finishing up the process of implementing translations. The reason we haven't announced a release date is, simply, that it's difficult to judge exactly how much work can get done in a particular week. We have a number of dedicated core members of WM working day and night but a lot of the ancillary work is done by volunteers. It simply isn't possible to expect volunteers to work to a strict deadline, though the ones we currently have are amazing.

We're narrowing down the date internally, and once we're 100% positive we'll hit it we'll let you all know. As it stands the game is complete, we just need to finish up testing and translation work. Plus a little tweaking in terms of combat and general difficulty. Hold tight, we're getting there. :)

And thanks for everyone's support and patience. We realize the development process wasn't ideal (far from it). A lot of it can be contributed to unforeseen and unavoidable roadblocks but just as much of it has been our own lack of experience. We're confident that you'll find the game worth it once we unleash it, and rest assured that we've learned a considerable amount from this whole experience.

Cheers

Wolfrider31

01-08-2010, 07:49 PM

I pre-ordered a year and a half ago... I'll probably end up moving before it's ever released and it'll end up being a nice present for the new tenant. I have basically accepted that my $50 is gone.

Just prior to release we'll be sending out multiple update emails that will allow you to change your address if you need to. Don't worry about. Your game will make it to the right person. :)

Melf

01-08-2010, 08:09 PM

Great! Thanks for the update. It's good to know that this is so close now.

pseudonym

01-08-2010, 08:22 PM

Awesome news. I almost forgot about this it's been so long since I pre-ordered.

mobiusclimber

01-08-2010, 08:56 PM

That is really awesome and I can't wait for this release (and your next one!)... It's funny that while there's plenty of homebrew games for old consoles, seems like only the Genesis has been getting RPGs. Why is that?

Zigfried

01-08-2010, 09:13 PM

Thanks for the update.

Arkhan

01-08-2010, 10:48 PM

seems like only the Genesis has been getting RPGs. Why is that?

because making an RPG takes alot more time, and a more dedicated team than anything else,

and Legend of Wukong wasn't exactly "homebrew". Wasnt it already made and just needed localized and published?

not sure about Beggar Prince.

mobiusclimber

01-08-2010, 11:44 PM

because making an RPG takes alot more time, and a more dedicated team than anything else,

and Legend of Wukong wasn't exactly "homebrew". Wasnt it already made and just needed localized and published?

not sure about Beggar Prince.

Bah, you're right, both of those are just localizations, not homebrew. XD I just really wish there was more of these new releases of RPGs on other consoles too. (Not even necessarily homebrew. Look at all the releases the NES gets, but those are mainly of unreleased games Happy Camper. Or all the Dreamcast homebrew stuff, but it's all been shmups. Dammit, the DC doesn't NEED more shmups, it has enough of em already. XD Ah well...)

Melf

01-09-2010, 12:31 AM

A lot more went into Beggar Prince and Legend of Wukong than just a simple localization. Nothing at all as extensive as PS though.

Arkhan

01-09-2010, 12:37 AM

Bah, you're right, both of those are just localizations, not homebrew. XD I just really wish there was more of these new releases of RPGs on other consoles too. (Not even necessarily homebrew. Look at all the releases the NES gets, but those are mainly of unreleased games Happy Camper. Or all the Dreamcast homebrew stuff, but it's all been shmups. Dammit, the DC doesn't NEED more shmups, it has enough of em already. XD Ah well...)

HEY JUST WAIT

oops caps,

soon Aetherbytes Retrocade will be out, and then the RPG is getting started.

PCE FTW! :)

mobiusclimber

01-09-2010, 07:03 PM

Yeah, I can hardly wait for that RPG you keep promising. I still need to get my copy of Insanity... *sigh* I hate being broke. :(

Thrashdance

01-09-2010, 08:28 PM

Couldnt resist any longer man, I preordered the US version today. I think it just took me seeing some of the trailers on youtube for me to actually "get" it. This game is going to be rad as hell.

understatement

01-14-2010, 03:58 PM

Couldnt resist any longer man, I preordered the US version today. I think it just took me seeing some of the trailers on youtube for me to actually "get" it. This game is going to be rad as hell.

You are lucky, I tried to place an order for a second copy today and the US version is SOLDOUT!

Wolfrider31

01-14-2010, 07:39 PM

Thrashdance

01-14-2010, 08:00 PM

Hi everyone!

We are now accepting Beta Test applications for Pier Solar. Head to the news page to find all the details.

We've hidden the form elsewhere on the website. Don't worry though, it should be easy to track down.

Cheers!

Awesome thanks for the update!

Thank you Understatement for posting that, I preordered my second copy today. I figured I should snag one of the JP versions before they go too.

RASK1904

02-17-2010, 11:44 PM

RASK1904 is twitling his thumbs. How long is long? LOOOOOOOOOONG!

Daria

02-18-2010, 07:57 AM

Preordered. Didn't realize that the US version was sold out a month ago.

Wolfrider31

02-18-2010, 02:18 PM

We've posted a quick update for the month of February. Our first round of Beta Testers has been chosen and have been handed testing tasks. Keep your hopes up if you didn't get selected - we might be rolling on more testers in the future.

Thanks for the support guys.

Cheers!

swlovinist

04-07-2010, 09:54 AM

Any updates with this project?

megasdkirby

04-07-2010, 10:23 AM

Reading the status updates on their website...I'm guessing this game won't come out any time soon.

My guess is mid next year.

grolt

04-07-2010, 02:42 PM

So by "scripting the sidequests" does that mean that the side quests have not even been attempted at this point, or that they are adding dialogue to the sequences already created? I hope the latter, because otherwise we're going to be waiting another eternity for this to complete.

Oldskool

04-08-2010, 04:34 AM

I'm honestly getting really tired of waiting, how patient do I need to be? It's been what, a year and a half? going on two now?

Arkhan

04-08-2010, 05:49 AM

kinda glad I saved my money and didnt preorder...

been too long of a wait. I thought it was about to come out last time I checked.

Mason P.

04-08-2010, 07:25 AM

I pre ordered this forever ago. I almost think it is a joke. I wan t a deadline. A real deadline.

Oldskool

04-08-2010, 01:01 PM

Arkhan, it ALWAYS seems to about to come out. It's getting rediculous. Don't get me wrong, I have always supported this game, and understood a wait. But jesus fucking christ.

Sosage

04-08-2010, 06:42 PM

kinda glad I saved my money and didnt preorder...

been too long of a wait. I thought it was about to come out last time I checked.

Yeah! Phew! You didn't put 40 dollars down...what...2 years ago? Dodged a bullet there.

I think I've long gotten over whatever pain and suffering losing that 40 bucks would have caused me.

On the flip side. *looks at watch...taps foot...*

MachineGex

04-08-2010, 07:11 PM

I am not sure what to think about this project. Surely by now, they know how much time is left to finish. If they don't have a good idea....I tend to think they are still very far off. I really dont mind the waiting, but not knowing how things are progressing is alittle annoying. Oh well, this game is gonna be good.....it has to be.

Arkhan

04-08-2010, 07:29 PM

Yeah! Phew! You didn't put 40 dollars down...what...2 years ago? Dodged a bullet there.

I think I've long gotten over whatever pain and suffering losing that 40 bucks would have caused me.

On the flip side. *looks at watch...taps foot...*

40 monies is a whole different game, one that I can actually play!

ProgrammingAce

04-08-2010, 08:19 PM

I look at their monthy status updates, and they look like the same kind of reports i used to send to my boss when i didn't actually have anything to report. Just take a few of the things you'd do on a normal basis and make them sound important.

I'm getting the impression that not a whole lot is getting done behind the scenes, and the devs are embarresed to admit it. I don't see a whole lot of posts from the devs in their forums, and the guy who started this thread on DP seems to have dissapeared years ago.

I don't want to wish ill on any homebrew project, but if there's one thing i've learned in all my time in the game industry it's that sometimes you have to learn when to cut your losses, finish up as best you can, and ship what you have.

Do the developers need help getting the project reorganized? Sometimes that's the hardest part of homebrew...

PC-ENGINE HELL

04-08-2010, 09:17 PM

Speaking of delays, did Rovers Frozen Utopia crew finally deliver as promised that Mysterious Song game since they decided to take pre-orders on it awhile back, or did they can the project and refund everyone. I heard there was a delay, couldn't say I was surprised.