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ReaXan
10-15-2011, 08:40 AM
for me its the N64....
everything looks blurrier than it did back in the day along with bad early 3D polygons. I don't think I will be sad if i never get to play it again. Basically, I could live without the N64 Zelda's as hard at that might be for some people.
The PSone is a close second except I still enjoy games like SOTN or other 2d games with no 3D at all.
treismac
10-15-2011, 09:58 AM
for me its the N64....
everything looks blurrier than it did back in the day along with bad early 3D polygons. I don't think I will be sad if i never get to play it again. Basically, I could live without the N64 Zelda's as hard at that might be for some people.
The PSone is a close second except I still enjoy games like SOTN or other 2d games with no 3D at all.
I'm with you on both of these. The only game I give a damn about on the N64 is Mario 64. The rest looks like crap. Can't say I care to hook my PS 1 up again anytime soon either. Also, I always disliked the Genesis controller, so I can't see me hooking this one up anytime in the next five years. My Atari Jaguar mysteriously disappeared from my parents' house and I could care less. That was such an expensive piece of crap.
Blitzwing256
10-15-2011, 10:27 AM
dreamcast, I still don't understand how people love this piece of shit, aside from pso (which was done better on other platforms later) its library is a pile of awfull shovelware, there is no game that makes me want to hook it up again (other than pso which again was done better elsewhere)
runner up would be saturn, other than a great port of sotn guardian heroes and dragon force, this system can die in a fire.
theclaw
10-15-2011, 10:45 AM
PS1. Few games I'd want don't run well enough on PS2 to get by.
JVC X'eye. Bulkier, arguably less reliable, and has lower compatibility than its distant cousin CDX. (power base converter won't fit X'eye, plus Everdrive's SMS rom loading is effectively broken on it)
Super Famicom. US models are so easy to mod for JPN games I have little interest in the system unit itself now.
Neo Geo AES. Much of the library is expensive. Once I can find somebody to consolize my MVS board that'll lower its appeal further yet.
Edmond Dantes
10-15-2011, 10:56 AM
For me its the Atari 2600. I just can't stand games that simplistic anymore.
I won't say I have no desire to play the N64, but there aren't really any games on it I find compelling.
theclaw
10-15-2011, 10:59 AM
Thing about SFC is it does look better stock. But widening the slot to fit US games is an ugly job, defeating the reason I'd want to use one.
I'm a little divided on Wonderswan or NGPC. Curious machines I can't help not finding novelty value in. If only they were easier to find accessories for. No/bad lighting is a killer for me. (part of why I hesitate to dive back into GG despite a massive and cheap game selection I'd like)
Ryudo
10-15-2011, 11:27 AM
Nothing. I only collect what I love so I play them all and love them all. Honestly. I even love my finicky 32X and original Game boy that broke couple years ago.
I don't get owning something if you don't like it.
Flashback2012
10-15-2011, 11:57 AM
dreamcast, I still don't understand how people love this piece of shit, aside from pso (which was done better on other platforms later) its library is a pile of awfull shovelware, there is no game that makes me want to hook it up again (other than pso which again was done better elsewhere)
runner up would be saturn, other than a great port of sotn guardian heroes and dragon force, this system can die in a fire.
GAH...talk like that will get your gamer's license revoked. Blasphemy I say, BLASPHEMY!! @_@
You mentioned shovelware, are you sure you're not thinking of the Wii? It's small and white like the DC with 4 controller ports. ;)
All kidding aside, it's a damn shame you think that of the DC and Saturn, they're two of my most favorite systems. But then, to each their own I suppose. :) I can't expect to get you to like them anymore than you could get me to hate them but I have to wonder, were you there at the ground floor of it or did you experience them well after the fact?
Anyway...I can't conjure up any system that I have absolutely no desire to play again. The only system I can think of that might even be close to this would be the PC-FX. I owned one several years ago and just could not get into the system. To be fair, I only had 3 titles for the system (pretty sure I bought it as a bundle) and the titles I did have either weren't fun or had a steep language barrier that prevented me from playing them. I ended up selling the machine to my friend when I was in a tough spot but if I had held on to the system, I'm sure I would have sought out the desirable/popular titles for it and give me a reason to want to play it again at some point.
Honestly, most of my systems I can't be arsed to hook back up. That said, I own some titles for each system that would make me want to hook them up if I got the wild hair up my arse to play them. Some titles like Dragon Force actually force me to NOT hook up the systems as I do not want to get addicted to them all over again. @_@
ncman071
10-15-2011, 12:03 PM
i would have to say my sega master system, 3do, ps1, virtual boy, atari jaguar/jag cd, atari lynx are definitly systems i dont care to every play or collect for ever again. i would include my sega cd but i thankfully just sold that last weekend along with about 16 games.
i'm not saying that any of those systems are terrible but they just have not stood the test of time in my book...
ishashobar
10-15-2011, 12:07 PM
An original Game Boy. It's really sad that those screens have degraded with age, now its as bad as a game.com.
Sunnyvale
10-15-2011, 12:25 PM
There's some that stay shelfed more than others... My O2 is probably first on that list. But anything I'll play a bit. I guess it's a difference in taste; Some want a 'trully' entertaining game, while others (myself) are as much into the history as they are the game. All of the systems getting hit here are high on my list, besides N64.
Stringfellow
10-15-2011, 12:30 PM
PS1. Few games I'd want don't run well enough on PS2 to get by.
JVC X'eye. Bulkier, arguably less reliable, and has lower compatibility than its distant cousin CDX. (power base converter won't fit X'eye, plus Everdrive's SMS rom loading is effectively broken on it)
Super Famicom. US models are so easy to mod for JPN games I have little interest in the system unit itself now.
Neo Geo AES. Much of the library is expensive. Once I can find somebody to consolize my MVS board that'll lower its appeal further yet.
I had more problems getting games to work on the cdx than I had have ever had on the x'eye. Terminator cd and Jurassic Park CD for example freeze on the cdx. Reliability I cannot say which is better.
Sunnyvale
10-15-2011, 12:40 PM
... Reliability I cannot say which is better.
If reliaility is an issue, the 360 takes the cake for junk. Besides the L4D series, mine sits except to test games to sell. I should just get em on the PC...
Lerxstnj
10-15-2011, 01:02 PM
Atari 5200.
The controllers never worked right and no exclusive games.
Stringfellow
10-15-2011, 01:49 PM
Atari 5200.
The controllers never worked right and no exclusive games.
I love my 5200. I had one new back when I was a kid and one of the controllers worked for several years and the other crapped out in less than a year. About a year ago I got one of best electronics 5200 controllers and it works as it should.
Lucifersam1
10-15-2011, 01:53 PM
Atari Jaguar. I just don't like the controller in any way.
buzz_n64
10-15-2011, 01:56 PM
Even for the systems I dislike, like the CD-i, I can't say I'll never play them again. There's always at least one game that will bring me back to it, or maybe a review of a game for the system. I won't limit myself.
Johnny_Rock
10-15-2011, 02:03 PM
I can honestly say I could go my entire life without seeing another PSPGo or Game Boy Micro and probably be a better person for it.
Aussie2B
10-15-2011, 02:06 PM
That's a tough question. I'd say nothing really. I want to play everything again. I mean, sure, there are some systems that appeal to me way less than others, and some where there's practically nothing in the library catching my interest. I'd say the worst off of those would be the 3DO, but even then I'd like to get more games for it and hopefully discover something I'd give a damn about.
Now if you want to talk about specific models of hardware, that's a different story. Like, for example, I love playing black and white Game Boy games and GBA games, but I have zero desire to use my original Game Boy or my original GBA.
TurboGenesis
10-15-2011, 02:15 PM
I love my 5200. I had one new back when I was a kid and one of the controllers worked for several years and the other crapped out in less than a year. About a year ago I got one of best electronics 5200 controllers and it works as it should.
I LOVE the 5200 too :D
sure there aren't really any exclusives… but I prefer 5200 versions over their 2600 versions.. and then add things like dual stick Robotron, Space Dungeon, and Battlezone, and trak-ball games like Missile Command, Centipede, Galaxian, and more... I really have no reason to play the 2600 when I can enjoy improved ports on the 5200!
one console I can't be really be bothered to play… the original Xbox... mine has been dead for several years, and some of the games I like work on the 360…
killersquirel
10-15-2011, 02:18 PM
Only one system comes to mind and that's the RCA Studio II. All of my many other game systems I enjoy turning on and playing from time to time.
-mike
fergojisan
10-15-2011, 02:25 PM
Atari 5200.
The controllers never worked right and no exclusive games.
I'm with you on the controllers, I even hated the Wico sticks. I didn't want to pay for a Masterplay Interface either. But wasn't Space Dungeon an exclusive?
WoodyXP
10-15-2011, 02:48 PM
Tiger R-Zone. No need to explain. @_@
TurboGenesis
10-15-2011, 02:58 PM
I'm with you on the controllers, I even hated the Wico sticks. I didn't want to pay for a Masterplay Interface either. But wasn't Space Dungeon an exclusive?
Space Dungeon and Countermeasure are the only 'true' exclusives... Meteorites could be called exclusive, but it's really just Asteroids
I was lucky to get a masterplay interface in a lot I picked up for cheap!
I haven't played a Memorex VIS, but I don't think there is one "game" on there with any amount of enjoyment!!
buzz_n64
10-15-2011, 03:12 PM
Space Dungeon and Countermeasure are the only 'true' exclusives... Meteorites could be called exclusive, but it's really just Asteroids
I was lucky to get a masterplay interface in a lot I picked up for cheap!
I haven't played a Memorex VIS, but I don't think there is one "game" on there with any amount of enjoyment!!
Although, not a true exclusive, Pitfall II has a 2nd level only available on the 5200, and 400/800 computer systems. Pitfall II is the best reason to own the Atari 5200.
leatherrebel5150
10-15-2011, 04:01 PM
PSX
Dreamcast
Saturn
Xbox
Cdi
Sega cd
Yea most consoles I will never play again all seem to be disc based.
Damaramu
10-15-2011, 04:19 PM
I thought the Atari Jaguar was utter garbarge back in the 90's, though a friend who owned one tried his best to convince me otherwise.
I still think the Jaguar is a turd of a console.
substantial_snake
10-15-2011, 06:35 PM
I don't know that I would never play it again but the N64 comes close here.
I don't like the controller and I find the visual style of the N64 to be unappealing. Although I know its a technically more advanced system then the Saturn or PS1 I actually prefer the 3D that those systems put out. I always felt like N64 games just looked bad and felt like the majority of them ran at significantly low frame rates, or at least the games I've been exposed to.
Although their are certainly a lot of systems I have no interest in spending money to pick up or acquire a library of games, I can't think of any I outright would never play given the opportunity.
Johnny_Rock
10-15-2011, 07:14 PM
I struggle with early polygons and such too, but it's not enough to make me fully disregard anything. I can't really enjoy first and second generation consoles because of the limitations personally but I didn't want to disregard entire generations.
I'd love to see more games get the remakes similar to the current HD remakes or Resident Evil Remake. A lot of the fifth generation games did not age well graphically. Trying to play the first Silent Hill game almost hurts my eyes.
The 1 2 P
10-15-2011, 07:45 PM
For me its the Atari 2600. I just can't stand games that simplistic anymore.
That and the 7800. I'd rather join the polar bear swim club than play those again.
You mentioned shovelware, are you sure you're not thinking of the Wii? It's small and white like the DC with 4 controller ports. ;)
That made me smile.
RPG_Fanatic
10-15-2011, 08:07 PM
Atari 2600
Sega CD
XBOX
treismac
10-15-2011, 08:14 PM
Atari Jaguar. I just don't like the controller in any way.
Remember the stupid control pad over lays that went on top of all the damn numbered buttons?? Horrible controller. Horrible.
Emperor Megas
10-15-2011, 08:18 PM
I'm with you on both of these. The only game I give a damn about on the N64 is Mario 64. The rest looks like crap.I don't think Mario64 looks much better than anything else, honestly.
Nothing. I only collect what I love so I play them all and love them all. Honestly. I even love my finicky 32X and original Game boy that broke couple years ago.
I don't get owning something if you don't like it.I don't either (in most instances), but I don't think he was asking specifically what consoles people owned that they never want to touch again, just what system do you have no desire to play again. I've played a few of those 1st generation Pong types games, and I don't really care if I ever do again.
treismac
10-15-2011, 08:27 PM
I still think the Jaguar is a turd of a console.
A steaming turd.
What really killed the possibility of any affections I might have had developing for that system was the wretched animation of the soldiers in Aliens Vs. Predator. 64-bits and that was the best that it could do?? I swear, man, it was like two frames of animation for a soldier walking. I returned the game and I don't think I ever bought another Jaguar game.
treismac
10-15-2011, 08:38 PM
I don't think Mario64 looks much better than anything else, honestly.
I think the cartoonish graphics for Mario 64 are relatively unshitty as far as N64 polygon crap graphics are concerned. Since the game is stylized (i.e. not trying to look realistic) I think it has aged alright. Graphics aside, I think the game is just fun, which is way more than I can say for the majority of N64 games that I don't remotely enjoy. Back in the day, I loved James Bond and Perfect Dark, but today the crude graphics are so difficult to get over. Kinda sad, really. Even with my complaints about the graphics, I just never played many N64 games that I thought were worth a damn.
Hmmm... I just remembered I haven't played my copy of Pilotwings 64 that I picked up for like a $1 at the flea market about three months ago. Could this be worth my time...?
Drixxel
10-15-2011, 09:16 PM
A steaming turd.
What really killed the possibility of any affections I might have had developing for that system was the wretched animation of the soldiers in Aliens Vs. Predator. 64-bits and that was the best that it could do?? I swear, man, it was like two frames of animation for a soldier walking. I returned the game and I don't think I ever bought another Jaguar game.
A low opinion of the Jaguar is one thing, but just so we're clear, the poor animation you speak of in AVP isn't the fault of the console. It's not like the Jaguar itself is cleaving out frames of animation or something, they just weren't there to begin with. It's not hard to find games that are visually underwhelming for "64-bits" in the Jaguar library but it's definitely a case of developers being without the time or proper resources to really take advantage of the hardware.
sidnotcrazy
10-15-2011, 09:29 PM
CDI
I played this over at a friend's house, and despite the fun I had with Twisted, I really didn't care much for the system, and I don't feel like I am missing out by not playing it.
Kinda shocked by all the dislike on the Atari consoles. But hey that's openion's for you. Everyone has one...
SpaceHarrier
10-15-2011, 11:06 PM
I really can't think of a single system I've played that I just don't ever want to play again. There is a game on every one of them that I like.
However, now that I've repurchased a couple N64 games on my Wii, I don't ever need to play the system again to enjoy those select titles. So N64. It remains the one system I dumped along with all the games.
(obviously I did regret selling a few of them)
Gameguy
10-15-2011, 11:34 PM
Hmmm... I just remembered I haven't played my copy of Pilotwings 64 that I picked up for like a $1 at the flea market about three months ago. Could this be worth my time...?
No, I had the game and I don't think so.
I'll go with the N64, Dreamcast, and Game Gear. I'm going to try playing Shenmue more and see if I like it, but so far with what I've played it just seems ok. When you have a 10 minute conversation in the game it takes about 5 hours of game time away from you, I'd prefer if the real time was actually real time. That's the only game I was interested in getting for the Dreamcast and it's not really grabbing my attention well.
ReaXan
10-16-2011, 12:50 AM
No, I had the game and I don't think so.
I'll go with the N64, Dreamcast, and Game Gear. I'm going to try playing Shenmue more and see if I like it, but so far with what I've played it just seems ok. When you have a 10 minute conversation in the game it takes about 5 hours of game time away from you, I'd prefer if the real time was actually real time. That's the only game I was interested in getting for the Dreamcast and it's not really grabbing my attention well.
Shenmue is a waste of time and overrated.
You can have a ton of fun by visiting edgeemu.net and picking up these SHUMP for the DC.
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega/dreamcast/2009/09/sega-dreamcast-shmups-2d-shooters.html
Ryudo
10-16-2011, 01:18 AM
Shenmue is a waste of time and overrated.
No. No. No.
Shenmue is great but a game some either love it or hate it. It's not for everyone. First is chapter 1 to set up the story so is deliberately slow paced like a old point & click adventure game. Shenmue II is more action focused and continuing the story chapters 3-6 (2 is a manga)
This was supposed to be a 16 chapter story and we only got 6 of them.
treismac
10-16-2011, 01:57 AM
A low opinion of the Jaguar is one thing, but just so we're clear, the poor animation you speak of in AVP isn't the fault of the console. It's not like the Jaguar itself is cleaving out frames of animation or something, they just weren't there to begin with. It's not hard to find games that are visually underwhelming for "64-bits" in the Jaguar library but it's definitely a case of developers being without the time or proper resources to really take advantage of the hardware.
We are clear. I understand that a system, regardless of how powerful it is, cannot magically transform the crap work of programmers into something worthwhile that fully showcases what a system can do. (Not entirely sure if I knew that as a kid, though.) Sadly, as powerful or unpowerful as its 64-bits were, the Jaguar was evidently not a magical system.
Also, I remember the programmers of Wolfenstein 3D for the Jaguar were too lazy to program the corpse of a character to lie on the ground in such a way that it didn't rotate as you moved around it so that it was always "facing" you. I was hoping that the Jaguar was going to take me to new heights of realism, so I was infuriated when its first-person games lacked any credible realism. The Jaguar was supposed to be the system that brought us virtual reality, if you recall. Of course, that plan was scrapped.
http://jagcube.atari.org/jaguarvr.html
Once again... steaming.
Emperor Megas
10-16-2011, 02:43 AM
I was hoping that the Jaguar was going to take me to new heights of realism, so I was infuriated when its first-person games lacked any credible realism. The Jaguar was supposed to be the system that brought us virtual reality, if you recall.Ahahahaha! Ah, *gasp* Ah, *gasp* Aaaahahahaha! Wow! What were you thinking?!
Icarus Moonsight
10-16-2011, 02:58 AM
There are some systems that are unimpressive enough to be dismissed in terms of both hardware and software. Then there are others that have severe hardware issues, but have gameplay potential that would get truncated off my want list. I do know for a fact one possible incorrect answer to this question is Dreamcast. :p
Drixxel
10-16-2011, 04:19 AM
We are clear. I understand that a system, regardless of how powerful it is, cannot magically transform the crap work of programmers into something worthwhile that fully showcases what a system can do. (Not entirely sure if I knew that as a kid, though.) Sadly, as powerful or unpowerful as its 64-bits were, the Jaguar was evidently not a magical system.
Also, I remember the programmers of Wolfenstein 3D for the Jaguar were too lazy to program the corpse of a character to lie on the ground in such a way that it didn't rotate as you moved around it so that it was always "facing" you. I was hoping that the Jaguar was going to take me to new heights of realism, so I was infuriated when its first-person games lacked any credible realism. The Jaguar was supposed to be the system that brought us virtual reality, if you recall. Of course, that plan was scrapped.
http://jagcube.atari.org/jaguarvr.html
Once again... steaming.
Your post highlights arguably the most serious problem with the Jaguar and that is the game library's failure to live up to the expectations created by the marketing that accompanied the console. The ads for the Jaguar made it out to be fuckin' awesome and the multitude of (vapourware) games mentioned in some of those ads painted the Jaguar library to be something it was not. Personally, I don't often get the urge to fire up my Jaguar but there are games that I definitely go back to when I do, and that's as someone who was initially disappointed by the thing. This whole thread is kind of ridiculous because there has to be at least one game on a given console that would deserve your play, or at least your curiousity.
That Jaguar VR helmet is, so I have read, supposed to be pretty sweet if you're playing Missile Command 3D with it but the hardware was never really finalized, it wasn't used as a selling feature of the Jaguar and thusly it can't really be judged like a regular peripheral. Also, corpses face you in every FPS that I can think of that uses scaling sprites for enemies.
crazyjackcsa
10-16-2011, 04:22 AM
I don't hate on any system, but there are a ton that I can see myself never playing again.
Playstation 1 and 2, the Original Xbox, Game Gear, Anything pre NES, maybe even the NES itself, the Master System, The original Gameboy.
Not that they are bad systems, I just see me picking up other games and systems well before them.
theclaw
10-16-2011, 05:47 AM
Undecided about PC-FX and FM Towns Marty. Embarrassingly I didn't get around to attempting to play a game on those. MSX2 I couldn't even test because I'd had a model whose power supply is impossible to find outside Japan.
snksega
10-16-2011, 07:26 AM
Out of all the systems I own the only one that I really couldnt find anything on that I liked was the CDI. I probably have about and hour of playtime on it all together.
Blitzwing256
10-16-2011, 10:18 AM
GAH...talk like that will get your gamer's license revoked. Blasphemy I say, BLASPHEMY!! @_@
You mentioned shovelware, are you sure you're not thinking of the Wii? It's small and white like the DC with 4 controller ports. ;)
All kidding aside, it's a damn shame you think that of the DC and Saturn, they're two of my most favorite systems. But then, to each their own I suppose. :) I can't expect to get you to like them anymore than you could get me to hate them but I have to wonder, were you there at the ground floor of it or did you experience them well after the fact?
Anyway...I can't conjure up any system that I have absolutely no desire to play again. The only system I can think of that might even be close to this would be the PC-FX. I owned one several years ago and just could not get into the system. To be fair, I only had 3 titles for the system (pretty sure I bought it as a bundle) and the titles I did have either weren't fun or had a steep language barrier that prevented me from playing them. I ended up selling the machine to my friend when I was in a tough spot but if I had held on to the system, I'm sure I would have sought out the desirable/popular titles for it and give me a reason to want to play it again at some point.
Honestly, most of my systems I can't be arsed to hook back up. That said, I own some titles for each system that would make me want to hook them up if I got the wild hair up my arse to play them. Some titles like Dragon Force actually force me to NOT hook up the systems as I do not want to get addicted to them all over again. @_@
I was there for release for both,
I got the saturn as a belated birthday present from my best friend at the time, I had mentioned that the guardian heroes game looked amazing, so he bought me the system with panzer dragoon (we coudn't find gh at first) and my god that game was soo horrible! it was a bunch of triangles shooting at other triangles, I think your mess of triangles was spose to be a dragon? either way it was awfull, gh was amazing so I had hopes for the system but every game was a pile of disapointment (aside from a few rpgs) I tried to like it but blech.
dreamcast was an xmas present, and I got sonic adventure (not even going to get into that steaming turd) and marvel vs capcom 1, mediocre fighting games seemed to be the only thing done well on the system (i'll admit soul calibur was kinda fun for 2 minutes), just nothing on the system grabbed me other than pso. definatly a system that will forever sit in the closet (sadly I think I have 3-4 of them in there)
Shingetter
10-16-2011, 03:48 PM
Really it has got to be Studio II and R-Zone. For a system that wasn't bad by design, Intellivision.
crazyjackcsa
10-16-2011, 04:06 PM
I was there for release for both,
I got the saturn as a belated birthday present from my best friend at the time, I had mentioned that the guardian heroes game looked amazing, so he bought me the system with panzer dragoon (we coudn't find gh at first) and my god that game was soo horrible! it was a bunch of triangles shooting at other triangles, I think your mess of triangles was spose to be a dragon? either way it was awfull, gh was amazing so I had hopes for the system but every game was a pile of disapointment (aside from a few rpgs) I tried to like it but blech.
Referring to Panzer Dragoon as horrible? Even at that time? You're entitled to your opinion, son, but that still makes you wrong.
Korppi
10-16-2011, 04:31 PM
2600, NES, PS1 and PS2... What the hell guys? I understand if you haven't bothered to properly look into Saturn, DC or N64 and came to the conclusion that there's nothing worth of playing on those anyway, in which case you opinion isn't worth much, but how can you say you don't want to play anything on some of those four? What do you play then? I want to know...
Gameguy
10-16-2011, 04:38 PM
Shenmue is a waste of time and overrated.
You can have a ton of fun by visiting edgeemu.net and picking up these SHUMP for the DC.
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega/dreamcast/2009/09/sega-dreamcast-shmups-2d-shooters.html
I'll look into those other games but I usually try to avoid imports as they'd be a pain to track down, plus while I do like shmups but they usually aren't my favourite types of games.
No. No. No.
Shenmue is great but a game some either love it or hate it. It's not for everyone. First is chapter 1 to set up the story so is deliberately slow paced like a old point & click adventure game. Shenmue II is more action focused and continuing the story chapters 3-6 (2 is a manga)
This was supposed to be a 16 chapter story and we only got 6 of them.
I like point & click adventure games, that's usually one of my favourite genres. The problem with Shenmue so far is that the characters are boring with horrible English voice acting so I'm not really interested in the story so far. Plus while it's impressive how you can interact with everything in the game, most stuff doesn't do anything interesting or get any type of meaningful response. I can turn on my own lights or look through my own closets without needing any game if I just wanted to look at stuff for no reason, I probably wouldn't hate this so much except the animations are way too long when you interact with things. The thing I dislike the most is the real time clock with the other characters moving around their own shedule. Just when I'm starting to get into it everyone closes shop and it gets dark so I'm forced to stop. Usually with most adventure games the characters stay in one spot until you've accomplished some specific task, they only move once you've accomplished something and progressed forward in the game. This game reminds me of Lure of the Temptress where people keep wandering around town on their own, when you need to find someone to progress in the game you have to keep wandering around the town just hoping to run into them.
I don't outright hate Shenmue, it just seems decent right now. I'll play it a bit longer to see if it picks up. If it doesn't I'll just sell it, and probably my Dreamcast too.
Aussie2B
10-16-2011, 05:58 PM
Heh, so you don't feel ganged up on, Dreamcast is definitely high up there for me in terms of this question. I'll never understand how so many retro gamers put it on such a high pedestal as if it's one of the best systems ever made and objectively awesome. What the heck are they playing on it? Because mine is one of the most unplayed systems I own. I have the Video Game Collector issue with the photo checklist for the system, so I've looked through the whole US library. So much of it is shovelware and licensed junk like the PlayStation was getting, and of the notable games, most I feel pretty "meh" about.
I think Dreamcast fans need to accept that it doesn't represent all genres very well. I mean, I love the N64 and can't understand why some people would mention it in a topic like this, but, at the same time, I know that the lack of some genres keeps some people from enjoying it. Actually, it's a good comparison because the Dreamcast and N64 are opposite in some ways, like how the N64 lacks in (decent) fighters and shmups, but the Dreamcast has a fair number (although you have to import for plenty of them). Me, I love platformers and RPGs most of all genres, and the Dreamcast just sucks for those. The Sonic Adventure games are good, but definitely not great (and plenty of their content isn't so much platforming but stupid shit like tediously scavenger hunting for emeralds for 15 freakin' minutes while awful hip hop is playing in the background), and beyond those, there's practically nothing worthwhile for a platformer fan. For RPGs, you got Skies of Arcadia and Grandia 2, and that's basically it. That's assuming you even enjoy those in the first place.
Granted, I still want to dig into the library more, but I don't see anything ever significantly changing my opinion of the Dreamcast or making me play it much more often than I do now.
aryoshi
10-16-2011, 06:53 PM
Actually it's a newer console, the Wii. I just.. Can't stay long with it when I try to play games on it. In fact, I think the most time I spent on an actual Wii game was with Super Mario Galaxy 2, it was definitely a blast to play. Also had some fun with Bully and a couple of others, and once I get the Metroid Prime Trilogy I'm going to enjoy it even more, but other than that, I just don't care for it at all. Most of the time I spent on it honestly was playing games on the Virtual Console, most of which I now own cartridges of thus have no use of playing the VC versions.
But following along with an older console, that's a hard one for me considering that I've got a soft spot for anything retro. I'm torn between the Saturn and the Dreamcast. Now, don't get me wrong, I love both. I really do, there's some absolutely amazing games on them. But honestly, the last time I actually played either was YEARS ago.. I'm talking a ridiculous amount of time ago. Picking one over the other, I think I'm going to say the Dreamcast. Most of the games I played on it were on other consoles, the ones that were exclusives on it were pretty fun while they lasted but I never really saw much in it that others seem to. I agree, it's an underrated console, but it just doesn't have much of anything that interests me. So in the end, I have to say the Dreamcast is the one console I wouldn't care if I never played again.
treismac
10-16-2011, 09:13 PM
Ahahahaha! Ah, *gasp* Ah, *gasp* Aaaahahahaha! Wow! What were you thinking?!
I had and still have a soft spot for ol' Atari. My hopes were that they would return to the world of video games and regain something of their former glory. It just seemed like it should happen- like it was written in the stars. *sigh*
On a less romantic reasoning, my reasoning was that the 16-bit Super Nintendo looked great and was easily twice as good as its 8-bit predecessor, the NES, so how could the 64-bit Jaguar not be four times as kick ass as the SNES? Also, as a kid when I saw that photos of Atari's virtual reality goggle for the Jaguar in a video games magazine, I thought the future had arrived. Clearly it hadn't.
treismac
10-16-2011, 09:15 PM
I like point & click adventure games, that's usually one of my favourite genres.
I might have guessed as much with your Guybrush Threepwood avatar. :)
Aussie2B
10-16-2011, 09:51 PM
I thought the future had arrived. Clearly it hadn't.
It had, you just had to have a Neo Geo. :P
Baloo
10-16-2011, 09:51 PM
I'll throw in another vote for the Dreamcast. Between the cruddy controller and mediocre library, there's not much on the system I really want to play anymore, save Power Stone 1 and 2, and Crazy Taxi. I had my fair share of junk like Sonic Adventure and I can't stand playing fighters that otherwise would be great like SFIII 3rd Strike and Mark of the Wolves with the horrible controller! Haven't hooked up mine in at least a year.
Maybe one of these days I'll pick up Shenmue and give it a shot.
old man
10-17-2011, 01:44 AM
Atari 7800. It was a turd. The 5200 was a better machine.
TurboGenesis
10-17-2011, 03:15 AM
Atari 7800. It was a turd. The 5200 was a better machine.
though I do not dislike the 7800, I also think the 5200 is a far better console! the 5200 is such a misunderstood, underrated, and underappreciated machine… the internet lemmings have made it cool to hate on the 5200 :roll:
ReaXan
10-17-2011, 07:22 AM
I'll throw in another vote for the Dreamcast. Between the cruddy controller and mediocre library, there's not much on the system I really want to play anymore, save Power Stone 1 and 2, and Crazy Taxi. I had my fair share of junk like Sonic Adventure and I can't stand playing fighters that otherwise would be great like SFIII 3rd Strike and Mark of the Wolves with the horrible controller! Haven't hooked up mine in at least a year.
Maybe one of these days I'll pick up Shenmue and give it a shot.
I can see why people would say the Dreamcast even though I still think the N64 has less of a redeeming value. The Dreamcast only had about 5 games that were really fun and alot of "meh" ones. I liked Crazi Taxi, Resident Evil CV but there was very little else. Shenmue can be fulfilling if u really give the time needed for it. Alot of the DC's games ended up on the PS2 or Gamecube.
I think I just liked the fact that after the Dreamcast was in my closet for a while that I could take it out,burn NesterDC and play some NES games as well as burn some Japanese Shumps that are hidden gems IMHO. Basically whatever downfalls the Dreamcast had in its library it was super easy to play backups on it. It has had a nice run after its official EOL nearly 10 years ago.
Also,the 2d looks really good on the Dreamcast and the 3D is still is developed enough so it doesn't take away from the gaming experience.
k8track
10-17-2011, 08:12 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to mention the Mattel Aquarius.
Lerxstnj
10-17-2011, 09:42 AM
Although, not a true exclusive, Pitfall II has a 2nd level only available on the 5200, and 400/800 computer systems. Pitfall II is the best reason to own the Atari 5200.
Thanks for this info!
In our house, we still own an N64 with all of the games made by Rare. I haven't played them to completion and it's on my list of things to do someday. The last time we ran the Dreamcast, my son was a toddler. He's 10 now. The curious one is the Wii. We buy games for it on a regular basis, but never seem to sit down and complete one. Could it be because it shares the Nintendo "blurry graphics" syndrome that the Cube and N64 have? Our other current gen consoles get played more regularly and usually to completion in a reasonable amount of time.
MachineGex
10-17-2011, 10:14 AM
Dreamcast for me. I don't play fighters too much, so that leaves out some of the best games on the system.
I was gonna say the Jaguar, but I recently got one in a trade and am digging the thing. Playing Missle Command 3D, Tempest, and my new favorite racing game...."Power Drive Rally"! That game is so much fun in a RC ProAm/Micro Machine's sort of way!!!
As far as 2600 being on people's list....that is a system that gets played weekly in our house. We have family game night and always end up playing MAZE CRAZE, SLOT RACERS, INDY 500, WARRING WORMS, and a bunch of great homebrews!
The 2600 really is a lot more fun when playing against someone. In fact, that is were the system shines. Tell me Maze Craze doesn't get your competitive juices flowin' ????
Parodius Duh!
10-17-2011, 12:24 PM
Anything made before NES and anything made after Playstation 1.
bangtango
10-17-2011, 01:26 PM
Easy. The 3DO. Most of the best games on the system were also released for the PS1 and Saturn.
Videogamerdaryll
10-17-2011, 01:47 PM
I don't really have any desire to play any old system(no time) ..when I get the time it's either playing an Xbox 360 game/with my kids(PS3-Wii is collecting dust,not that I don't like them just no time to play multiple systems) ..Or I play something Arcade or Pinball..
But since I do a lot of buying and selling of old systems and games...once I hook up an old system to try a game I enjoy it..I actually have had more fun with games buying and selling them then in my Collecting days...I'll play an old game I'm selling and Really Have a BLAST with it,discovering something I missed.
.I believe because I was trying to build such a huge collection,getting so much stuff at times that I didn't have the time to Enjoy the games I was buying..
I don't collect like I used to,I keep this and that,specifics,games that I know I will play again or unique titles..
I am not into roms,emulation,I have no idea on what is what with that type stuff but I can tell you I have had the most fun messing with games I've had,never played,never seen nor heard of that are loaded on this thing...I am having fun playing old games again..
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theredlineboss
10-17-2011, 03:07 PM
Hm, I don't have any particular system where I'd say I have no desire to play it again. I guess I could say the original GameBoy, GBA, or the PS1 since I don't bring out those systems very often.
However, I do play those games through other means (taking advantage of backwards compatibility or even a bit o' emulation). So, I really don't think that's fair to the systems, since it's the games that made them what they were. To me, not using the original console but using a later version (PS1/PS2, GB/GBA) instead is akin to using a different controller. @_@
I will say that the I have little to no interest in the RCA Studio II and Fairchild Channel F. That's based on the gameplay videos I've run into on youtube though - I have not used either of those consoles.
-Rob
Xirius_Thir
10-18-2011, 02:27 PM
ZX Spectrum...
The graphism of this system it's really so ugly.. colours are so simply and badly coordinated
Fuyukaze
10-18-2011, 02:45 PM
Wonderswan would be #1 on my list. I've owned 2 of them and I still can't bring myself to enjoy it. Also, the 5200, for all its graphics upgrade over the 2600, the controler made it a joke.
Night Driver
10-18-2011, 06:51 PM
Dreamcast
N64
NES
SMS
Jaguar
3DO
Baloo
10-18-2011, 08:10 PM
I can see why people would say the Dreamcast even though I still think the N64 has less of a redeeming value. The Dreamcast only had about 5 games that were really fun and alot of "meh" ones. I liked Crazi Taxi, Resident Evil CV but there was very little else. Shenmue can be fulfilling if u really give the time needed for it. Alot of the DC's games ended up on the PS2 or Gamecube.
I think I just liked the fact that after the Dreamcast was in my closet for a while that I could take it out,burn NesterDC and play some NES games as well as burn some Japanese Shumps that are hidden gems IMHO. Basically whatever downfalls the Dreamcast had in its library it was super easy to play backups on it. It has had a nice run after its official EOL nearly 10 years ago.
Also,the 2d looks really good on the Dreamcast and the 3D is still is developed enough so it doesn't take away from the gaming experience.
I dunno, for me the N64 can still be a blast with 3+ friends. I still can't get enough of the Mario Parties, Pokemon Stadium mini-games, doubles in Mario Tennis, Magical Tetris Challenge, and the original Super Smash Bros. Even though the N64 library may not be the most comprehensive library ever, and it's solo outings have mostly gotten old, but I still love to bring it out and hook it up for some games that for me, will never get old for parties.
Manhattan Sports Club
10-18-2011, 08:31 PM
My hobbies are mostly language/literature-based such as studying foreign languages, reading classic lit or manga, etc. and this is one reason why I enjoy story-driven games like RPGs, Point-n-Click Adventures, and Visual Novels (with the occassional action-puzzler or platformer thrown in). I don't know how many people here like these genres but if you have a grasp on the language, its hard to hate PS1 and Saturn, even DC, which have a good helping of these titles. Visual Novels are usually voiced with text and is a good way to learn vocabulary. I also like how laid back they are and watching how the plot ends up. I know alot of RPGs are overrated and taken too seriously by some but I don't take most of them too seriously to begin with and just enjoy them as cartoony fluff. Plus, these games are often very cheap to import. So I can't share the Saturn/PS1/DC hatred. The actiony games often weren't even the best ones on those systems!
Anyways, I would probably go with anything Atari, with the exception of maybe the Atari ST. Never cared for them that much, but I do like arcade games from that era instead.