Official Super Smash Bros. Brawl Thread (OUT NOW!)

[Snapple]

FAKE!

Surely you jest sir. I have it on good authority that Spinal, Nintendog, T-shaped Tetris block, and Carl from GTA are in the final roster, just like the picture says. How can you doubt this validity?

[Lord_Magus]

I just got this game a few days ago along with my Japanese Wii, and... words fail me...

I honestly haven't had this much fun with a game for a (very) long time! They've taken everything that made Melee great and polished it to the max: the graphics are beautiful, the music and sound effects are amazing, the amount of unlockables is absolutely insane, and the game is FUN as hell! Some of the "purists" argue that the game lost a little of its edge because it's been (very slightly) slowed down compared to Melee, but what it lost in speed it more than gained in smoothness and overall polish. Also, the story\adventure mode is very epic and enjoyable, and takes at least 6-7 hours to complete (add 2-3 more hours if you go for 100% completion).

I could go on and write 5-6 pages about what makes this game so great, but I prefer to stop this post here and get back to playing! :) Feel free to ask away if you have any questions about the game... although I can't guarantee I'll reply quickly as I'll most likely be glued to my screen ;)

Overall: easily 10/10, and already GOTY for me.

[WizDawg]

Game Stop tournament details:

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ssbb/tournament/default.asp

[Sotenga]

Here's an example of total larmitude; I'm currently relaxing on Spring Break, but the day it ends is the same day Brawl gets released. Suckiness to the max, sayeth I. :grrr:

[Trumpman]

hehe, my spring break is the week after Brawl comes out. That week will be amazing.

[Oobgarm]

3 vacation days off work coincide with the release.

I know what I'll be doing.

[xfrumx]

I start my new job 4 days after it is out, not so bad

[Icarus Moonsight]

At least I'm going to be off the night of the midnight launch. Lucky! :)

[Lothars]

Metal Gear first appeared on the MSX computer. It was then ported to the NES as an inferior version to the original. The original MSX versions were then emulated on the Playstation 2 inside Metal Gear Solid 3 itself.

3 are on Nintendo consoles? Let's see, you got -
Metal Gear - An inferior port.
Snake's Revenge - Made without the involvement of Hideo Kojima and made strictly for American and European markets. It is not even canon with reguards to the main Metal Gear storyline.
Twin Snakes - A remake of the original solid which appeared on Playstation.

So, pretty much, two official titles, one an inferior port and one a remake. Right, Nintendo consoles have had one major Metal Gear game, a remake, released on one of their systems in the last 15 years. It now makes perfect sense as to why they would have Snake as a character in the new Smash Bros game. PERFECT sense.

The reason no one really complained about Master Chief (actually, a seperate Spartan soldier, not Master Chief at all, but a character named Nicole) in Dead or Alive 4 or even extra characters in Soul Calibur 2 was that these games were NOT representations of each companies created universe, respectively. Smash Bros is different in the respect that it's a collection of everything Nintendo. Stages, music, characters, ALL Nintendo. Suddenly throwing Snake into this mix just makes it a surreal collection of Nintendo characters... with a guy named Snake thrown in. It just doesn't work out, and, as I've said before, it kills the soul of the series.

-GoTaS

Well it's nice to know that you are just a 100% wrong and clueless about it

I just shake my head at why you think it kills the soul of the series when if anything it makes it stronger than it was before.

[Sotenga]

Trump... Oob... frum... Icarus... BLAST THE LOT OF THEE!!!!! :fist:

... on second thought, since my next-door neighbor is also getting Brawl, I can wait to play it at home because I'll be kicking ass at it up at college. So... yeah, that's cool. :D

[Icarus Moonsight]

Wanna blast me huh? Yer gonna have ta earn it... online. :p Your shining armor and fancy words will get you nowhere. LOL

[FantasiaWHT]

Is it street-dated for the 9th? Shipping on the 9th?

[Lothars]

Is it street-dated for the 9th? Shipping on the 9th?

I think Nintendo has been shipping the game for the last couple weeks as it's suppose to be street dated for March 9th

[Snapple]

A lot of Gamestop locations are having midnight sales for Brawl on the evening of the 8th, start of the 9th, so yeah, that's the street date.

[Trumpman]

We're going to need to get some DP games going. Why is there no voice chat? It seems like Nintendo is one generation behind in all new advancements - disks for N64, online play for GC, and now amenities for the online play for Wii. What I really want to see is a true server browser for those who want it on the Wii games, along with voice chat. While I love Nintendo, I must admit that their online policies are asinine. Oh well, I guess I shouldn't be complaining; at least there IS online play.

[ubersaurus]

We're going to need to get some DP games going. Why is there no voice chat? It seems like Nintendo is one generation behind in all new advancements - disks for N64, online play for GC, and now amenities for the online play for Wii. What I really want to see is a true server browser for those who want it on the Wii games, along with voice chat. While I love Nintendo, I must admit that their online policies are asinine. Oh well, I guess I shouldn't be complaining; at least there IS online play.

Why no voice chat? I'd assume because smash is a game that's going to be played by a wide variety of people, and Nintendo doesn't want to take flak from little kids being taunted by guys telling them they're gonna rape them in their sleep. Especially in a game where you can play Mario!

I've never had a good experience with voice chat in a fighting game, anyway. Usually it's the other person whining and bitching when I'm beating them, and nasty, nasty trash talk when I'm losing.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Voice chat... when video games jumped the shark. LOL

[Trumpman]

Well I guess you have a point, but you can just mute the douches. It's more useful in TF2, sure, but I still would like it in Brawl. Meh, as I said before, I'm just happy there is online play.

[FantasiaWHT]

R.O.B. the robot?????? There is such a thing as trying to hard, Nintendo ;)

[diskoboy]

Why is it that I DON'T want this game?

[heybtbm]

Let's make one thing clear. Voice chat scares the shit out of Nintendo. They want to eliminate the potential for trash talking and tarnishing their "family friendly" image. It's typical corporate cowardice...no doubt the decision was made by lawyers, not designers.

It's sad too, because voice chat works when you're playing with/against friends. I would wager most people who are "against" such features are the typical Nintendo Mafia who tow the line and insist that every decision "N" makes is a good one or antisocial losers who want everyone else to be friendless and miserable like they are. Just a guess.

[PDorr3]

if you REALLY want voice chat do what my friends will be doing. Turn on your 360, go to a game such as an arcade game like Aegis Wing. Sit in the lobby and turn down your xbox volume, use the xbox mic to have chat between 2-4 people and then just play on your wii, problem solved. Another solution is using a computer chat client but to me xbox is easier.

[heybtbm]

if you REALLY want voice chat do what my friends will be doing. Turn on your 360, go to a game such as an arcade game like Aegis Wing. Sit in the lobby and turn down your xbox volume, use the xbox mic to have chat between 2-4 people and then just play on your wii, problem solved. Another solution is using a computer chat client but to me xbox is easier.

That's a pretty good idea.

[Oobgarm]

Yeah, I remember using TeamSpeak while playing Resident Evil Outbreak.

Might do the XBox thing if I play with some folks from here.

[Snapple]

I would wager most people who are "against" such features are the typical Nintendo Mafia who tow the line and insist that every decision "N" makes is a good one or antisocial losers who want everyone else to be friendless and miserable like they are. Just a guess.

Pissy, much?

I've never been a fan of voice chat. I don't play video games to socialize, so I won't miss it.

[heybtbm]

Pissy, much?

Not at the morons I was referring to in the quote you highlighted. Those people make me laugh, not get angry.

I'm just a little pissy at Nintendo for their cowardice and being behind the curve...again. Regardless, it's probably a moot point in the end. Voice chat or not, this game will be legendary. I've been waiting for this one for years.

[Sotenga]

Okay, if I'm lucky, I'll get to play a slight bit of the game before I head off to college. However, due to a community service dealy at my college, I'm going to have to forgo coming home this weekend, so that's TWO weeks away from my beloved Brawl. :(

But hey, my roommate will be getting it, so I'll get my fix of the game. Plus, one more week after that, and I'll be on my Easter break. Oh, THAT will be enjoyable for sure. :-D

[Apollo]

Don't have any money for Brawl, but I decided to start completely from scratch in Melee. Deleted everything.

Right now, I'm going through the challenges with only Marth, and I think that #28 is waaay harder than #50 and #51. Seriously.

[FantasiaWHT]

I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but doesn't anyone think the fact that the online service is provided FREE by Nintendo might have something to do with the lack of voice chat?

Given a choice between paying and getting voice chat, and getting it free but with no voice chat, that's a complete nobrainer for me, and I'd imagine a lot of people, to get it free. Whip our your phone/cell phone/VoIP/360 etc. if you feel talking to your friends while you play is absolutely necessary.

[Apollo]

On the whole voice chat issue, I think it's only needed in certain games. You don't need it for games like Brawl, since it's pretty much you or one other person, but even then, a lot of communication isn't needed if you know the person you're playing with.

Compare this to other games, like CoD4, where the best teams are usually ones where the teammates communicate almost every action they do, and letting their team know what they are doing (UAV, choppers, etc).


But mostly, I'm not upset about a lack of voice chat in Brawl mostly because I don't need to tell 14 year old kids that I rocked the shit out of em. They'll be able to see me the whole time. They'll know.

[Blitzwing256]

Holy shit,


got a chance to play the us version of the game today, and its everything that it was hyped up to be, we played the "story mode" for a good 3 hours and were only 30% of the way through.

its just an incredibly fun experience and nintendo DEFINATLY has my 50$ for this game.

[MonoTekETeA]

Playing it now, 30% in story line, going to see how far me and my friends can get in it tonight. Best story line with no words said in it what so ever. Great game, just as good as the last in my opinion, with an even better soundtrack. Keep ya'll updated.

[FantasiaWHT]

Who else got a call from automated GS for a preorder saying the game would be available...

ON MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Normally, people know I'll defend GS/EB for a lot of stuff, but this is just plain WRONG.

[Lothars]

Who else got a call from automated GS for a preorder saying the game would be available...

ON MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Normally, people know I'll defend GS/EB for a lot of stuff, but this is just plain WRONG.


Just call or go in on sunday because I know some EB's/GS are doing the midnight opening but I would be shocked if you wouldn't be able to get it on sunday

I know I will be getting it on sunday.

[Cobra Commander]

Anyone here going to take part in the tournament?

[64Bits]

Who else got a call from automated GS for a preorder saying the game would be available...

ON MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Normally, people know I'll defend GS/EB for a lot of stuff, but this is just plain WRONG.

This is probably due to the automated voice service being wrong, or not being setup to allow the message to say Sunday.

[otaku]

I sold my wii a few months back (january?) I kinda want it back now (for this and wii fit and mario kart) maybe I'll pick one up later this summer or something I dunno. My store has 9 wii in stock for a sale sunday when this game launches should be a good sale day for once can't wait

[geneshifter]

My Wii number is 7930 3418 8173 2631. Feel free to add me to your Wii and give me your Wii code. I'll be getting this game at midnight. It is really shaping up to be a great game. Can't wait.

[Famidrive-16]

Whoa, so what's this shit about Brawl not working on some Wii's?

[udisi]

I had to do a system update when I first put it in, but after that it worked no problem. Early impressions is that the characters seem more balanced , and there sure is a lot of stuff going on...on screen. Items, backgrounds, and moving stages, but it seems a lot of the classic stages are available, and this custom stage builder sounds neat.

[Famidrive-16]

Is the update from the disc, or do you get it online?

[swlovinist]

I just came from a Gamestop Tourney. I was just an observer but all I can say is HOLY COW. This game was made for Nintendo Fans, and anyone who has liked the previous ones will be blown away. The tourney I went to was well ran, and most of all people were having fun. The graphics on this game are bright and colorful. Most of all, I saw this game on a 40 inch Samsung and it looked beautiful. This is THE MUST HAVE multiplayer game for the Wii. I did not see it going online, but I am sure that it will play fine. The lack of voice chat is understandable, and I bet was a protective move. When gems like this come out, the crap about the lack of quality games for the Wii begins to shrink for me. And to think that next month is Mario Kart. Crap I am behind.....

[udisi]

Is the update from the disc, or do you get it online?

I'm not sure, I have wii connect 24, so it could have been either. What happened to me, was I put the game in, powered on, and when I went to select the disc channel is was greyed out like there was no game in. When I clicked it, it said their was a Wii update needed, and I could choice to upgrade or turn off the wii. I chose to upgrade, got the typical status bar, took about a min, the system reset and everything was cool.

[Carey85]

I also heard about the game not working on some Wii systems. I had the game seem to hang on me for a moment between loading screens which had me sweating a bit, but everything turned out cool.

[DJ Daishi]

I thought my local GS would have a few copies left after the preorder, but noo they had to be sold out...should have preordered this instead of arcana heart.

[blissfulnoise]

I've been playing since a little after midnight. This game, without a doubt, features more targeted fan service than any game before it. The amount of stuff crammed into the game is ludicrous.

Just the in-game music test is worth the $50.

Nintendo knocked this one totally out of the park.

I can't say "game of the year" without waiting out some of the inevitably unbelievable games that are due in the coming months, but this game will certainly be in the running come January.

[heybtbm]

I thought my local GS would have a few copies left after the preorder, but noo they had to be sold out...should have preordered this instead of arcana heart.

Don't sweat it. Buy one of the literally 1000's of copies each Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc. has. This game is the exactly opposite of "hard to find". I haven't seen such massive displays for a game since Halo 2/Halo 3.

[kainemaxwell]

Nice to see it was worth all the delays then afterall.

[8-bitNesMan]

This game is EPIC! Thank you Big N for making it worth the wait. Would say more, but I gotta get back to this gem of a game :) 10 out of 10, 5 stars, and two thumbs up!

[Overbite]

its hard to tell if a game is going to be epic or the best thing ever when its only been out a few hours

[Trumpman]

Gah. I don't get home from college until next Friday and my brother and I share the Wii. I don't think I can last another week without this game. (Although we have midterms so it's probably a good thing that I can't play Brawl lol)

[Oobgarm]

It's fun, but there's just SO MUCH stuff going on at times, multiplayer matches can get confusing pretty quickly. And some of those levels aren't made to be played on smaller displays.

[Gamingking]

I'm loving the game. A friend is over playing it at the moment, I'm glad it's released finally.

[Neil Koch]

Haven't played it too much yet, but I'm really digging it so far. My only complaint is that the save file is huge; I had to delete a few VC games from my HD to be able to play the game.

[Streetball 21]

Am I the only one, or is anyone else having trouble with wi-fi matches? I either get timed out, or cant find anyone to play with.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Wow, this is both interesting and shocking!

Apparently some Wii's (more than a few) are having issues reading the DVD9 format that SSBB is on.

I wasn't planning on picking this one up anytime soon, but I'll have to borrow one from a friend to see if my Wii can read it.

http://kotaku.com/365603/brawl-doesnt-work-with-some-wii

All the responses from people claiming that the game is non-functional in their Wii's in the comment section for this article makes me pretty nervous.

[walrusmonger]

Does anyone know of a way to map the movement to the d-pad of the classic controller instead of the stick? I really hate playing with the stick, but I didn't see a way to changge it.

[Neil Koch]

Wow, this is both interesting and shocking!

Apparently some Wii's (more than a few) are having issues reading the DVD9 format that SSBB is on.

I wasn't planning on picking this one up anytime soon, but I'll have to borrow one from a friend to see if my Wii can read it.

http://kotaku.com/365603/brawl-doesnt-work-with-some-wii

All the responses from people claiming that the game is non-functional in their Wii's in the comment section for this article makes me pretty nervous.

I've read on a couple of other forums that some people are getting around this problem simply by blowing canned air into their Wii.

[xfrumx]

Does anyone know of a way to map the movement to the d-pad of the classic controller instead of the stick? I really hate playing with the stick, but I didn't see a way to changge it.

i wanna know toooooooooooo

[c0ldb33r]

I've read on a couple of other forums that some people are getting around this problem simply by blowing canned air into their Wii.
Sounds like the same problem the japanese were having with their cigarette filled houses.

Except with dust.

The dual layer discs like it clean.

[jajaja]

Does anyone know of a way to map the movement to the d-pad of the classic controller instead of the stick? I really hate playing with the stick, but I didn't see a way to changge it.

i wanna know toooooooooooo

I'm not sure how you do it since i dont have the game, but this review at 5:44 shows something about the classic controller:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31663.html

Dont know if it will help anything though, but maybe :)

[WiseSalesman]

I'm having an absolutely fan-fucking-tastic time with this game. I have about 11 hours played on it, between multiplayer, events, and the subspace emissary. Just one thing - does anyone know if it's possible to download custom levels? I know that was a much touted feature, and, if it exists, I sure can't find it anywhere.

[Streetball 21]

Using the analog stick on the classic controller is difficult. I went ahead and used the gamecube controller. However, I have heard some good things about the Wii remote and nunchuk combo. Anyone try it yet?

[slip81]

It's fun, but there's just SO MUCH stuff going on at times, multiplayer matches can get confusing pretty quickly. And some of those levels aren't made to be played on smaller displays.

yeah, that's for sure, new pork city on an SD 27" tv is tough, thankfully, that was my friends tv.

[segarocks30]

I LOVE it. I've had no problems with it, it's been reading fine. Oh yea, I've been getting timed out on wifi, or can't find matches, but I did finally get in a match, and I like the online play. I buzzed through normal classic, and I unlocked Capt. Falcon, Ness and Marth by playing a ton of multiplayer with my friend. I love the new way to get trophies, so awesome, there's just so many features in the game. I have been using remote and nunchuk, and I think it's pretty good. I may give it a go with the gamecube and/or the classic controller.

Friend Code- 1547-4863-1788

[Neil Koch]

Just one thing - does anyone know if it's possible to download custom levels? I know that was a much touted feature, and, if it exists, I sure can't find it anywhere.

From the manual, it says you can send levels to your friends, but doesn't mention anything about being able to upload/download your levels.

[FantasiaWHT]

From the manual, it says you can send levels to your friends, but doesn't mention anything about being able to upload/download your levels.

Didn't the smash dojo website have an article about uploading custom games to Nintendo, who would then pick and choose the best ones to release for download?



That’s right! You can use your Wi-Fi connection to send stages you’ve made to Nintendo! (However, you can’t submit repeatedly. Maybe just once per day?)
And a stage selected from the entire daily collection will be sent from Nintendo to your Wii. A stage made by someone else will come to you over the Internet once per day!
DUN DUN DUNNNNNN! That’s the shocking truth. This means you’ll be able to experience a new stage every day—the flavor of the day, if you will. However, the plan is for that stage to vanish once one day has passed. It’s a once-in-a-lifetime encounter.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various10.html

[mnbren05]

I'm loving the new Smash Bros. I officially had my reserve down for 15 months (would have been 15 exactly on the 19th of March) and it is keeping me plenty busy. Also, by some miraculous act, my spring break coincides with the release. It is going to be an awesome week. Now I have a game I will actually replay and keep for the Wii.

[slip81]

man, is anyone else having as much fun with the spectator option as I am? Me and my friend spent like a solid hour last night, betting on people and then yelling at the t.v when our bets were losing, or, cheering them on when they were doing good.

[downfall]

It's fun, but there's just SO MUCH stuff going on at times, multiplayer matches can get confusing pretty quickly. And some of those levels aren't made to be played on smaller displays.

My friends and I thought that was a bit of a problem with Melee, and it's amplified here. I'm on a 42" widescreen, and I feel like I do when I'm trying to play Geometry Wars, where I need to be like 2 feet from the screen to see everything that's going on.

Love the game, but that's really my biggest complaint. I've thought about it though, and I don't see how they could fix it without compromising other game features.

Turning off all the items makes a huge difference - but it eliminates a large part of the fun and strategy, which is fighting for the items as much as fighting each other. I tend to just pick stages with less going on though if it's my choice.

[blissfulnoise]

The Electroplankton stage and the Bit-Generation stickers are full of win.

Just when I thought Nintendo just wanted our money, they give us a great big hug.

[WiseSalesman]

Didn't the smash dojo website have an article about uploading custom games to Nintendo, who would then pick and choose the best ones to release for download?



http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various10.html

Lo and behold, when I logged into the the WFC today, my Wii retrieved a new homerun video, a new screenshot, and two new stages. I guess I should have just been a little more patient. The only thing i don't like about this - apparently, every time you update the new stages you lose your previously downloaded levels. I don't really see how they could get around it, given the Wii's diminutive storage capacity, but it still sucks. What if we get some brilliant stage that's tons of fun? It's gone in a day, regardless? Doesn't seem right.

[c0ldb33r]

You should just be able to save the levels to SD card. Those things are so cheap nowadays.

[Neil Koch]

Yeah, but Wii games don't allow for direct loading from them. Nintendo really needs to release some sort of update to fix that. With SSBM levels, VC games, and Wiiware games, that tiny HD fills up fast.

[8-bitNesMan]

its hard to tell if a game is going to be epic or the best thing ever when its only been out a few hours

I stand by my original post; this game is truly epic. I haven't had this much fun with a game in years. Strong contender for game of the year, IMO.