Yeah I figured that out, and it is a lot better now that I'm using something like a controller. I'm still having issues with the fact that for prolonged periods of time holding that thing sideways gets really uncomfortable.Originally Posted by NE146
Like was said above.. that's your own problem for choosing the waggle control scheme.
That game has a control option you know.. change it to good old buttons.
That's been the case ever since 3rd parties abandoned the N64. Yeah there's some decent 3rd party stuff on N64, GC, and Wii, but the Nintendo stuff is generally regarded as the better stuff and the reason you buy the machines - not so you can play RE4.
Time will be when the broadest river dries
And the great cities wane and last descend
Into the dust, for all things have an end
I don't know about that. Now that RE4 is multiplatform, sure, you don't need to buy a GameCube for it, but the game was IMMENSELY popular. The majority of gamers I know would probably pick it as their favorite GameCube game. I don't know if it moved a lot of machines since it didn't come very early on in the GameCube's lifespan, but practically everyone that had a GameCube bought it and enjoyed it every bit, if not more, than the Nintendo offerings.
Speaking for myself, the Nintendo stuff has always been secondary. When I bought the GC and Wii, I was thinking more about third-party stuff than Nintendo. With the GC (purchased early 2003), there were some great Sega games on it, and I was super excited about the then-upcoming Capcom 5. With the Wii (bought at launch), I was more interested in Red Steel, Rayman, Monkey Ball, Trauma Center, and Elebits, than Zelda, which I could've gotten on Gamecube (and in hindsight wish I had), or Excite Truck, which is good but not that exciting. To this day, when I think of my favorite games for both systems, or look at my collections, third-party far outweighs first.
Yeah, I owned all 3 consoles in their prime and would have periods where I preferred the Xbox, or Gamecube, but the PS2 was always in the rotation. When it came to shooters and RPGs, it was mostly PS2 for me. Ico and Culdcept were very unique games, as was Shadow of the colossus, Ring of Red and shinobi.
Yeah, there were great games on all 3 consoles, but there would come a point where you had played most of the good games on the Gamecube and Xbox within 2 or 3 years. There's still a ton of unexplored games that I've yet to get to on the PS2.
Last edited by Gamevet; 08-26-2011 at 01:09 AM.
I guess my question is really, did people generally buy Gamecubes in order to play RE4? Or did Gamecube owners generally buy RE4 simply because it was a good game.
I'm arguing the latter, though I obviously don't *know* it for a fact.
Last edited by Nature Boy; 08-26-2011 at 09:58 AM.
Time will be when the broadest river dries
And the great cities wane and last descend
Into the dust, for all things have an end
A fair comment. Everyone's tastes are individual.
Take a look at something like gamerankings.com, and I think we'll find that 50% or more of the top 10 games for those three systems were published by Nintendo. Which is where my 'generally regarded' statement came from.
Time will be when the broadest river dries
And the great cities wane and last descend
Into the dust, for all things have an end
Some people did actually buy Gamecubes to play Resident Evil 4, but I think they're the exception and not the rule in this case. I remember people on Gamefaqs bitching endlessly about the PS2 port because they admitted to buying the GC for RE4.
Being a sports game afficiando, I enjoyed Sega's Home Run King and that is one of my favorite GC exclusives.
The perception for some was that it was thrown together to pacify people who were unhappy World Series Baseball didn't come over to the Cube but HRK is fun in its own right.
I imagine some people did buy a Cube for RE4, it did sell well over a million copies in the space of a few months...
You get what I'm saying when I say "generally" though, right?
I'm not arguing nobody bought a Gamecube for RE4 (or any other 3rd party title), because that would pretty obviously be wrong.
By saying generally I'm just arguing it would be more than say half of the 21 million GC owners who fall into the "1st Party Nintendo interest" category.
(FYI (and FWIW), according to Wikipedia, there were 320,000 copies of RE4 sold on the Gamecube in the first 20 days, and they ended up around 1.5 million in total on the Cube. Even if all 1.5 million owners of RE4 specifically bought a Gamecube to play it on, that leaves 19ish million other owners owning the system for another reason)
(EDIT: Look at the sales from list list http://www.listal.com/list/bestselling-gamecube-games. Obviously I can't claim these are 100% accurate, but they look reasonable. 9 of the top 10 are Nintendo published (with #9 being the first 3rd party game), and you don't see another 3rd party game until #13. A *lot* of Gamecube owners bought a *lot* of 1st party titles on the Cube).
Last edited by Nature Boy; 08-26-2011 at 11:36 AM.
Time will be when the broadest river dries
And the great cities wane and last descend
Into the dust, for all things have an end
I just don't think RE4 is a very telling example because the GameCube came out in 2001 while RE4 came out in 2005. Had it come out earlier on, I think it would have moved boatloads of systems, but there's no way to ever know that. As it is, it came along so late that anybody that had any inclination to own a GameCube had probably already picked one up, indeed likely for a first-party game.
Did you look at the sales numbers I linked to above? 16 of the top 20 were published by Nintendo. RE4 was one of the 4 non-Nintendo games (at #16) in the top 20. If they're not representative of someone wanting 3rd party stuff over Nintendo stuff, not much else *would* be.
And don't forget, again, that I said "generally favour first party titles" - which, in light of the sales numbers above, I feel comfortable about saying.
Maybe I'm being sensitive, but why do some have an issue with that? Personal preferences aside, it makes sense, doesn't it? My personal favourite game is Eternal Darkness, which sold for crap, but even it wasn't the reason I bought a Gamecube. It was to allow me to play the newest Zelda and Metroid games when they came out. Everything else was gravy (like the Rogue Squadron games and BG&E)
Time will be when the broadest river dries
And the great cities wane and last descend
Into the dust, for all things have an end
Well, then I think you're getting into the demographics of the GameCube. RE4 is a Mature-rated game with people's heads popping like grapes. With a system that was so frequently bought for kids, I think it was inevitable that it wouldn't get quite the sales of the family-friendly Nintendo releases, which were bought BOTH by parents for kids and by the older gamers that would pick up RE4.
Also, if you noticed, almost all of the games above RE4 were released between 2001-2003. Fewer games to pick from, so those titles were more likely to be bought by everybody that had the system. By the time RE4 came out, there was a lot to pick from.
So sales aren't really evident of how much people "favor" a game. The gamers I know already had a GameCube before RE4 and bought plenty of first-party titles, but RE4 is still their favorite GameCube game and, had it been out earlier, it would've been a bigger reason for them to pick up the system than the other titles.
http://news.cnet.com/DVD-players-no-..._3-820169.html
Nice article on the cost of DVD players in 2002. Rewriting history indeed.
It does say they're available for "less than $100", and that's the beginning of 2002. By the end of the year they were cheaper than that. I don't know that they were $35, but he's probably not that far off.
I bought a standard Pioneer DVD player, christmas 2001, for $200 in Ohio at Best Buy and that was a deal.
What about when Sega was giving away free DVD players with the purchase of a Dreamcast? Were the free DVD players more expensive than the Dreamcast itself?
http://news.cnet.com/DVD-players-no-..._3-820169.html
Nice article on the cost of DVD players in 2002. Rewriting history indeed.In late 2002, Radio Shack had progressive-scan DVD players stacked up in the middle of the store for $35 each. I bought one to use in the bedroom. I also bought a Polaroid DVD player around the same time for $50.
Two years prior in December 2000, I bought my JVC DVD player *on sale* for $200 (originally $300). So yeah, the price of DVD players fell dramatically during those 24 months.
Last edited by Rob2600; 09-25-2012 at 03:44 PM.
Lack of 3rd party support and it's discs at 1.5GB was too small.
DC had 1.2GB and was also too small.
Tho that did not affect 360 this gen in the regard of failing but has great 3rd party
Life!? ... What console is that on?
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