How popular is the Genesis these days?

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Your statements are unsubstantiated and misleading.

Space Harrier, Last Battle, Tommy Lasorda, Thunder Blade, Altered Beast, etc. All launch titles and all completely forgettable. Just because you misunderstood my point does NOT mean that what I said was misleading.

"So many of the games were terrible" - there, you are making things up. You give no indication of being factually aware of the early Genesis library so it wasn't a stretch to assume that you are ignorant of what was actually being played by knowledgeable consumers.

I'm not "making things up". No US launch title would make it onto a top top 100 list of Genesis games. They just aren't very good. Again, in case you missed it before, this isn't to say that there aren't good games for the console. You're sounding awfully butthurt for no reason.

And when you assume...

I guessed you would be simple enough to reference Super Mario World in regard to Altered Beast.
Sonic the Hedgehog was the pack-in game when Super Mario World was on the market.
Keith Courage may have been a valid comparison to Altered Beast.

@ the comparison not being valid! It's a "simple" comparison. What did the Genesis come packed with at launch? What did the SNES come packed with at launch? If I play your game, then I can point to the likes of Zelda and Yoshi's Island eventually being packed-in with the SNES. Both games having FAR more depth and replay value than Sonic the 1-dimensional Hedgehog. Again, another game which doesn't offer much beyond about 60 minutes of running through every level as quickly as possible, seeing as there's absolutely no reason to NOT rush through the entire game.

"I'll just pick what I think is the best pack-in game and only allow it to be used for comparison's sake in this argument." -Koa Zo

"Sega people are always so damned defensive"
really? calling someone out on their bullshit is being defensive?
Instead of your misleading generalities and made-up statements, how about some facts or concrete examples?

Done, not that I need to prove anything to you.

The popularity of the SNES holds quite strong while that of the Genesis dwindles. This alone serves as fairly concrete evidence for my argument. Feel free to continue being butt-hurt though, as if I dealt some sort of personal insult. Like I said, that does seem to be the way of the Sega fanboy to be on the defense all the time.

The discussion wasn't about the launch line up. A generalized statement was made that that "So many of the games were terrible" (in fact, his context was "the late 80's and early 90's")
I listed the games which I was playing in the first year of owning a Genesis - all of which are pretty awesome. I made specific examples that there were plenty of games which offered more than 20-60 minutes of play.

Of course there were less than stellar games available, just like with any console.
The only example he suggested was Altered Beast. So if I reference Drakken, I can say "so many of the RPGs on SNES were terrible"? No that's just dumb

Also funny that he labels me "Sega person" because I call out bullshit.

Which one should understand to mean launch or early titles.

FYI, many of the games you listed wouldn't hold my attention for more than 60 minutes. Not in 1989, and most certainly not today. Shinobi is an arcade title, and as such, takes about 30 minutes to romp through. Populous never struck me as a stand-out console title. Plays well on PC, but for the Genesis and SNES, not so much. Mystic Defender is nearly identical to Shinobi in terms of being an arcade game. Your first time through may have taken 45-60 minutes, with no real reason to revisit it.

You can call it bullshit if you want, but my opinion (which is based on a LOT of experience with the console) is just that, my opinion. You don't have to agree. I bought my 1st Genesis within a week of launch and my SNES on launch day. I've played both a LOT over the years as well as the TG-16 and even my fair share of the Neo-Geo. Ignorrant I am not.