Quote Originally Posted by Amon_Re View Post
You'd be surprised, a lot of more 'primitive' cultures treat their life stock better then us.
Up until the day they die. Then it's slow, gruesome, get adrenaline in the meat methods...



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[The only reason why there are still starving countries is because we let them starve.
Of course, it has nothing to do with the governments of those countries.
http://www.christianaction.org.za/ne...ic_poverty.htm


Quote Originally Posted by Amon_Re View Post
It's a lot simpler then that really. Treating your life stock decently prevents the outbreaks of massive epidemics (bird flu anyone?) and removes the need to feed animals massive quantities of antibiotics which improves the usability of antibiotics (you slow down the rise of resistant germs).

So even if you care little about the animal's well being (it's going to be killed anyway) you still have a lot of things to gain by improving the quality of life these animals have.
Bird flu has been around a little while longer than beak-searing.
http://www.avianinfluenza.org/bird-flu-origins.php

Improving their quality of life wouldn't help us a bit. Keeping them from being fed bone meal might.

Quote Originally Posted by Amon_Re View Post
1) Comparing the will to reduce unneeded suffering in life stock to starving kids in Africa is nothing more then lazy ass deflecting
2) Humans are the most cruel species in this world, we seem to enjoy the suffering of others. Want proof? Click this link to an image (not going to embed it into this post for the more easily offended people):
http://lh5.ggpht.com/-uzhNFXP4CW8/Rd...8/patience.jpg
3) Proper treatment of life stock improves the quality of the meat and reduces illnesses in the life stock
1)The two are intertwined. I've already pointed this out earlier.
2)Bot flies. Wasps that lay eggs inside of living spiders for the young to eat their way through their brains slowly. Equating the perversion of some humans to the entire species is no better than saying all Pit Bulls are bad dogs.
3)Ever eat wild game before? Quality is crap, and the potential for human illness is higher.

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It's NEVER ok to declaw a cat.
Own an aggressive cat and a small child at the same time. Bye-bye claws.

Quote Originally Posted by Amon_Re View Post
If you want to save as much of a resource as possible you wouldn"t need to sear off their beaks. It's more efficient/healthy to actually grow less animals in the same space as you reduce the need for antibiotics and the risks of sicknesses wiping out the whole stock.
Not more effecient. That's why free-range chicken costs a ton more. Again, when one says 'starving kids', it's part and parcel to this discussion.