Quote Originally Posted by Sunnyvale420 View Post
You said primitive cultures treat their livestock better than us. I was simply showing that is not the case.
All you "proved" is that they die slower.

Ahem, please open a history book. And ask the Kurds how things were going before we showed up. Are those AJ's words I'm hearing?
Tell that to Somalians. Like I said, spare me the freaking propaganda.

Yup! And after world hunger is ironed out by a bunch of tree-huggers on PC's, they can finally finish that perpetual motion machine they've been telling me about.
Strawman argument. There are enough resources to feed the whole world. There is however, no desire (no gain) to do so.

Yes it does. Which is why we use antibiotics. Yes, the bugs get stronger as our medicine advances, It's an arms race. One we're winning.
1) Never underestimate nature
2) It's sheer stupidity
3) The quality of the meat produced is horrific

Um... They are the carriers. Typhoid Mary's of the animal kingdom. They don't get sick as often, but when the local farmer's chickens get sick, they probably got it from wild birds.
You can replace probably with most likely. But again, do you see those flocks of birds falling out of the sky? No? Do you understand why?
Do you know why you don't drop dead when you get a cold or a flu?

Saying something vehemently don't prove shit. Money is and has been the issue for centuries. You donate lots of meat to charities? Why not? Cause of money?
I never donate meat to charities, spoils too quickly

Wolverines, cats, even certain species of insect hunt for sport. Bull fighting... a cat toying with a mouse for a few hours... Chimps do the genocide thing on other chimps as well. Nature isn't all Kumbaya.
Again, this is completely besides the point. We have the choice to treat life stock better. We chose not to because we don't care or worship the $.

Gamey meat is better tasting than farm-raised?
Yes. And farm-raised meat tastes better then meat from animals grown in small cases and on steroids & meds.

All those eons of farming haven't taught us anything
All those 'eons' have taught us something. It's taught us to increase gain and decrease costs. Again, quantity != quality.

I can think of a number of crueler things I could do to a cat. Have any kids? Hover over them 24/7? Oh, so if I get a gal pregnant, we should give the cat to a 'shelter' (concentration camp)? Take responsibility? I am! For my species and my children. Fuck the other guy's till mine are squared away!
If you truly were to take responsibility you'd make sure your kid isn't left alone with cats (or dogs for that matter). What about teeth? Maybe you should pull the cat's teeth too? She might bite! (Actually, she is more likely to bite when declawed as those are her only means of defence left.)

No matter what excuse you bring up, declawing a cat is
A) Cruel
B) The lazy escape
C) An escape of your responsibility.

You should consider this before getting a cat, not punish the thing because you were too stupid to realize cats got claws.

Man, I don't even know how to respond to that. 'Timmy, you're not starving because of lack of food."
If food was so cheap and plentiful it wan't necessary to buy or sell it, would they still be starving?
Yes because there is no gain in giving away free food. You do realize what they do with food they can't sell right? It gets tossed on a landfill or used as manure because it's cheaper to dispose of it than to ship it to starving people.

Lack of food/resources isn't why people are starving. It's because we f'cking let them.