Limited Run Games (producing physical copies of digital games)

[Aussie2B]

They can call it a "bonus edition" all they want, but as far as I see it, it's no different from when they'd sell a regular bundle of a game and soundtrack. I'm just glad they backed out of two totally separate covers and having one exclusive to the more expensive set. They're finally listening to people fed up with all the variant nonsense, so now the Factotum cover is reversible. They're still doing the whole manufacture some with one side facing out and others with the other side facing out, to make sealed collectors double dip, but at least you can get either side by buying either version of the game, and sealed collectors can buy two of the standard edition to get one of each, rather than being forced to get the OST and other bonus items whether they want those or not.

The one thing I find a little perplexing is why they're doing all this extra stuff for a game like Factotum to begin with. It doesn't seem like there's much hype for it at all. Same with Home. It seems like this coming Friday is just another day where they're trying to clear out their backlog of games that they probably would never sign at this point but are stuck releasing due to contracts signed when they were taking just about anything. I hear people are complaining about the price points too, though I don't have a problem there since I know nothing from LRG is gonna be lower than $25. But I have also heard that Home is super short, like 1-2 hours short, and for a game that seems fairly linear and story-based, I imagine there isn't much incentive to replay repeatedly. So I can understand why even the lowest price point of $25 may still seem too high for that.

[kupomogli]

Weren't Factotum and Home announced on the list they released this past E3? I honestly still believe they're signing anything they can get, but that's just me.

On the plus side, there's only a finite amount of games, so with every five or 10 playable games, we're bound to get an Ys Origin, Furi, etc.

[Aussie2B]

Factotum was announced then. I could've sworn Home was announced earlier, but maybe my memory is faulty.

There's no question that they're passing on releases. They even cancelled some planned but unannounced releases and pointed the developers to LRG's competitors. 99Vidas was one where the developer approached LRG and LRG turned them down and suggested Strictly Limited Games.

[mailman187666]

Got my blind boxes in over the weekend. I splurged and got 5, and all 5 were games that I didn't have already.

-Risk of Rain
-N++
-Plague Road
-Furi
-Mutant Mudds: Super Challenge

I actually used to have Risk of Rain, but sold it a while ago. I'll just leave that unopened and keep it on the shelf. Plague Road, I was curious to see why people thought it was so bad anyway. I played it for maybe an hour or so, and I can see people's frustration with it. N++ and Mutant Mudds are pretty decent an pretty challenging. Furi I don't know much about but seems to be the more sought after of the games I received. All in all I was happy with my blind box games. I actually wish I had ordered more, but I'll be visiting their booth at Pax East this year, so I'm sure I'll get more games.

[kupomogli]

Owl Boy's physical release is coming out May 29th for PS4 and Switch. Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom is also getting a physical release for the PS4 and Switch some time this summer.

[megasdkirby]

I totally forgot about today! Proves how interested I am for these titles! :o

I may check the six o'clock release. Maybe I won't forget again... :D

[Aussie2B]

I'm gonna have to hit the evening batch too. With being sick this week, my sleeping schedule got all screwed up, and I didn't feel like dragging myself out of bed for the morning batch. I don't know how fast the morning batch sold out, but I hope it wasn't extremely fast. I like going for the first batch since it leaves me the second batch as a safety net just in case something goes wrong, so it makes me a little nervous going straight for the second batch and not having that safety net. Granted, I don't expect these to have a lot of demand on the secondhand market, so it wouldn't be the worst thing if I'd have to buy on eBay later on.

[Aussie2B]

Okay, grabbed a Vita copy of each. Can't say I'm very excited about these releases either. I'm a lot more eager to try next week's offerings, Fallen Legion and Revenant Saga.

Edit: Scratch that, next week is off now, Revenant Saga is on the 23rd with Oddworld: Munch's Odyssee (Vita) and The Metronomicon (PS4). Fallen Legion has been bumped to March. LRG really needs to get their acts together and make a solid schedule adequately far in advance instead of making and changing announcements with barely any notice. :/

[kupomogli]

Another shitty Kemco RPG and then an incredibly stupid looking rhythm game. What's next? Life of Black Tiger?

[Aussie2B]

I personally have been looking forward to the inevitable announcement and sale of Revenant Saga. I'm more excited to buy Kemco's RPGs than most LRG releases. I hope we'll eventually get Dragon Sinker as well.

I won't be buying The Metronomicon, but a rhythm game is one of my favorite releases from LRG (Deemo). I welcome more rhythm games from them.

[kupomogli]

But a rhythm game is one of my favorite releases from LRG (Deemo). I welcome more rhythm games from them.

It's not that it's a rhythm game, in fact it looked a lot like Theatrhythm Final Fantasy gameplay wise which I liked. I'll give you the perfect comparison though. When your husband goes out to buy you a ring, what would you want? A diamond ring or a zirconia? However, in the case of Metronomicon, graphically, it's more like a diamond ring compared to one made of dog shit. The character designs, everything just looks stupid as crap. I'd honestly rather play that homebrew PSP rhythm game that's pretty much a ripoff of DDR.

And obviously you know my opinion of those Kemco RPGs. "Most" RPGs are worse now than they were in the past yet the Kemco RPGs are even worse than those. The ring thing would work for Kemco RPGs as well, but obviously based on everything about them.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

I'm nearing 40 of those tickets LRG introduced as a loyalty program of sorts (still cross they didn't honor the oldest customers with tickets from games before they introduced the program).

Has anyone already reached that mark here? I'm curious just how it works. I know they want you to physically mail them the tickets - so do you do that ahead of time when there's nothing on sale and they add some sort of credit to your account, or do they email you a code or....?

Do you still have to pay shipping on a game you redeem with the tickets?

What happens if there's two games that come out at once - does their system allow for one to be free and for you to pay for the other? It's all rather unclear to me.

[megasdkirby]

I have. However, since they are mixed with my brothers, I have no idea how to redeem them, since they said that they "know" which ticket belongs to who.

Oh well.

[Ryudo]

Still waiting for them to ship Sky Force. Still waiting for them to announce the pre-order date of Icey and Cosmic Star Heroine.

[Bojay1997]

I'm nearing 40 of those tickets LRG introduced as a loyalty program of sorts (still cross they didn't honor the oldest customers with tickets from games before they introduced the program).

Has anyone already reached that mark here? I'm curious just how it works. I know they want you to physically mail them the tickets - so do you do that ahead of time when there's nothing on sale and they add some sort of credit to your account, or do they email you a code or....?

Do you still have to pay shipping on a game you redeem with the tickets?

What happens if there's two games that come out at once - does their system allow for one to be free and for you to pay for the other? It's all rather unclear to me.

I submitted 40 tickets in anticipation of a variant that never came out (Night Trap 32X). They basically sent me an e-mail confirming receipt of the tickets and telling me that when something is announced that I want, I should just e-mail customer service and one will be put aside for me. They don't send a code or anything that you have to enter. It's a manual process handled through customer service in advance of a release date.

[gbpxl]

I submitted 40 tickets in anticipation of a variant that never came out (Night Trap 32X). They basically sent me an e-mail confirming receipt of the tickets and telling me that when something is announced that I want, I should just e-mail customer service and one will be put aside for me. They don't send a code or anything that you have to enter. It's a manual process handled through customer service in advance of a release date.
I have Night Trap for the Sega CD. It's barely playable. The video is small and grainy, and the gameplay is somewhat confusing. It has nostalgiac value for a time when FMV games were a thing and it had the campy 80's horror movie thing going for it but beyond that it's a broken mess.

[Ryudo]

Yeah I have the LRG version of Night Trap and it's much better than the Sega CD version but that's just like saying one pile of turd smells less foul than the other. I got it just for the historical aspect of the game. Same reason I have a copy of ET on Atari 2600 but don't own an Atari 2600.

[gbpxl]

Yeah I have the LRG version of Night Trap and it's much better than the Sega CD version but that's just like saying one pile of turd smells less foul than the other. I got it just for the historical aspect of the game. Same reason I have a copy of ET on Atari 2600 but don't own an Atari 2600.

I heard the 3DO version was the best.

[kupomogli]

Yeah I have the LRG version of Night Trap and it's much better than the Sega CD version but that's just like saying one pile of turd smells less foul than the other. I got it just for the historical aspect of the game. Same reason I have a copy of ET on Atari 2600 but don't own an Atari 2600.

Same here. Night Crap was obviously very hyped up simply because it was such a bad game being rereleased, went in seconds on LRG. I was able to submit a ticket when they posted if any were interested in getting a copy and the only reason I did so was because of the hype and rarity. I usually don't include bad games in my collection, the reason why the original version isn't there.

You've really got to wonder why a lot of these developers decide to choose certain games to make or build their games with certain stuff in mind. It's like, are you trying to get less sales? I mean atleast put out something people are interested in, like another remake of Snatcher. Or a remake of Popful Mail, Dark Wizard, something good. But what did we get? Night Trap.

[megasdkirby]

Another Oddworld CE...fuck me hard.

That trash is going to sell faster than me eating an entire pizza at Costco.

[Gameguy]

Same here. Night Crap was obviously very hyped up simply because it was such a bad game being rereleased, went in seconds on LRG. I was able to submit a ticket when they posted if any were interested in getting a copy and the only reason I did so was because of the hype and rarity. I usually don't include bad games in my collection, the reason why the original version isn't there.

You've really got to wonder why a lot of these developers decide to choose certain games to make or build their games with certain stuff in mind. It's like, are you trying to get less sales? I mean atleast put out something people are interested in, like another remake of Snatcher. Or a remake of Popful Mail, Dark Wizard, something good. But what did we get? Night Trap.
Old FMV games are becoming popular again, mainly because crappy B movies are becoming popular for the mainstream crowd to watch. So many terrible films are getting released on DVD and Bluray that otherwise should have died out years ago. Like why is The Room so popular now?

It's easy for developers to re-release old FMV games, all that's really involved is to release the existing footage in a higher resolution and people will buy it. Plus these old games have less than an hour's worth of footage so it doesn't take long compared to remaking an actual real playable game that has real content. Plus crappy games are usually cheaper to license.

I'll admit to owning a few FMV games myself including Night Trap on the Sega CD but I haven't really played them for any length of time.

[megasdkirby]

Is there a way to find out what color frisbee is inside Windjammers without opening the package?

[Aussie2B]

Not that I can see. The sticker on the outside only identifies the platform.

[megasdkirby]

Munch's Oddysee...SOLD OUT IN LESS THAN A MINUTE!?

Holy SHIT!!!! I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!

Man, I am so lucky I managed to get a copy. What about everyone else?

[Aussie2B]

Today is the day for Revenant Saga (PS4 & Vita), Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee HD (Vita, both standard and CE), and The Metronomicon (PS4). I grabbed a Oddworld CE and a Vita Revenant Saga myself. Oddworld sold out ridiculously fast, so anyone who still wants that is going to have to wait for the second batch. Still some stock of everything else, though.

[megasdkirby]

Why is the series (Munch Odyssey) so damn popular? It's like a massive cult following.

It sold ridiculously fast, as stated in my post above. I think too fast...so much that I think the night batch will well out faster.

Damn, just damn.

[Aussie2B]

I don't really get it myself. I mean, I know the first couple Oddworld games had pretty good mainstream success on PS1, but it seemed like the series has only been fading out of popularity since then. I mean, Munch wasn't even that well-received when it originally came out, was it? Stranger's Wrath was critically acclaimed, but it seemed like most consumers ignored it. And then there's the fact that I think the character design and art for the series is reeeaaaaalllllly ugly. I get that it's intentionally so to some degree, but I dunno, I just sort of hate looking at anything Oddworld, even if the gameplay is fun enough. I would never get an Oddworld CE if I weren't collecting Vita LEs in general. I just hope the thing isn't too stupidly huge. The standard LRG CEs are already too big, and I still haven't even found a decent place to put the Windjammers CE, since it's too big to fit on the shelves where I got all my other Vita LEs.

[FOnewearl]

Munch's Oddysee...SOLD OUT IN LESS THAN A MINUTE!?

Holy SHIT!!!! I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!

Man, I am so lucky I managed to get a copy. What about everyone else?

I couldn't even check out fast enough the CE was yanked from my cart at the final step with my clock saying 10:01 so I figured it was gone in about a minute or less but I got a standard copy of Munch's Oddysee which I'd guess lasted about 2-3 minutes. IIRC it said 11 or 12 percent left about a minute or two in when I checked right after I got it.

[megasdkirby]

Im shoving all big boxed games in plastic bins, those they sell at Costco (the clear, smaller ones). Sadly, I am doing this to almost all of my games, due to lack of space At least they are protected.


And the scalpers begin...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Limited-Run-Games-119-Oddworld-Munchs-Odyssey-VITA-2000-MADE-LIMITED-EDITION/391984510482?hash=item5b4418f612:g:VeQAAOSwXOVaiwx w

[kupomogli]

Oddworld Abe's Odyssee is one thing, unique gameplay style with very few similar games, games like Blackthorne, etc. It helps that it's also a fairly good game. Munch's Odyssee on the other hand was never really that good. Even when it was new there were better games in that gameplay style. I honestly think people hear Oddworld and they just relate the entire series to how good they've heard Abe's Odyssee is. I didn't even go for this one honestly. I was actually going to just because it was Oddworld and then decided not to.

[gbpxl]

Old FMV games are becoming popular again, mainly because crappy B movies are becoming popular for the mainstream crowd to watch. So many terrible films are getting released on DVD and Bluray that otherwise should have died out years ago. Like why is The Room so popular now?

It's easy for developers to re-release old FMV games, all that's really involved is to release the existing footage in a higher resolution and people will buy it. Plus these old games have less than an hour's worth of footage so it doesn't take long compared to remaking an actual real playable game that has real content. Plus crappy games are usually cheaper to license.

I'll admit to owning a few FMV games myself including Night Trap on the Sega CD but I haven't really played them for any length of time.
The FMV games are popular because they are such a staple from a bygone era. There is nothing on the market in 2018 that resembles these games (apart from this re-release.) The one I remember the most is Fox Hunt on the PS1. Too bad it's a $70+ game now.

Night Trap has a lot of historical significance as well of course for leading Congress to put pressure on the gaming industry and which lead to the ESRB (the other game being Mortal Kombat)

and yeah I love the B-movies but typically I avoid the ones that are purposely bad. In the pre-internet days, it seems amateur film makers weren't the most self-aware, leading to hilariously bad films like Plan 9 from Outer Space and Manos the Hands of Fate. In the last ten years or so, it seems there's been a trend to try and make it to the bottom of the IMDB list for worst film. a lot of these films end up just being so bad they're just bad; case in point- Birdemic, Sharknado, Gingerdead Man, et. al. At least with Ed Wood's films, he genuinely was trying to make a good film.

[gbpxl]

Oddworld Abe's Odyssee is one thing, unique gameplay style with very few similar games, games like Blackthorne, etc. It helps that it's also a fairly good game. Munch's Odyssee on the other hand was never really that good. Even when it was new there were better games in that gameplay style. I honestly think people hear Oddworld and they just relate the entire series to how good they've heard Abe's Odyssee is. I didn't even go for this one honestly. I was actually going to just because it was Oddworld and then decided not to.

Munch's Oddysee- crap game was excellent cutscenes and box art. I played it last week on the Xbox. after 30 min to an hour, and realizing the dumb ass collecting BS wasn't just a tutorial, I had to put it down. very unsatisfying gameplay. Game Informer gave it a 7 out of 10 which is basically a score of D+ on the video game rating scale.

[Aussie2B]

I noticed LRG pulled something pretty scummy today. Yesterday, I noticed the Metronomicon bundle had sold out, while there were around 30 copies of the OST left last I looked and a fair percentage of the standalone game. Nothing wrong with that, since people could just add the two items to their cart individually to create their own "bundle" for the same price as the sold-out bundle if they wanted. The ideal scenario is for bundles to sell out first. I took a look at where their stock stood on the remaining items this morning, and now the bundle is back in stock, while the OST is out of stock. So now, in an attempt to move more copies of the game, they've eliminated the possibility of buying the OST by itself, screwing over game soundtrack collectors who buy from LRG for their albums rather than their games. Now you're forced to buy a copy of a game if you want the OST. It's not like Metronomicon isn't going to sell out soon enough regardless. There was no good reason to shift the stock around like this. :/

[Aussie2B]

A pretty big sales day today with Fallen Legion (PS4 & Vita, though the game differs depending on the platform), Lethal League (PS4) and its soundtrack, and Super Hydorah (PS4) in both standard and "Classic Edition" versions. Only a Vita Fallen Legion for myself, but good luck to those fighting over Super Hydorah. The standard copies sold out in the blink of an eye, and the CEs were soon to follow. Right now, nothing but Lethal League is still available from the first batch.

Originally, I was gonna say I was happy to have a little bit of a break as a Vita collector with only one game to buy today, but now I'm just ticked since they announced Nurse Love Addiction for next Friday. Again, LRG is not thinking about grouping games in logical ways to save on shipping costs. I hate paying shipping on one single LRG release if another I plan to buy is being sold in just a week or less. I also really have to question what LRG is doing about CEs. They claimed to be cutting back so that they could save them for the games that truly deserve them and so that they could focus on making each truly worth the price tag, yet here we are back to have CEs sold every sales day for weeks in a row (Munch, Super Hydorah, and Nurse Love Addiction). To make matters worse, there was barely any notice given before the sales date that Nurse Love Addiction would be getting a CE, and they still haven't even revealed the contents. It feels like they're taking for granted LRG collectors, thinking we all can whip together any amount of money at a moment's notice and will buy CEs regardless of what they contain.

Even though the rate of releases was too high, I really appreciate how last month they seemed to be going back to their roots, yet now they're going back to the habits that had customers demanding they go back to their roots in the first place.

[kupomogli]

It feels like they're taking for granted LRG collectors, thinking we all can whip together any amount of money at a moment's notice and will buy CEs regardless of what they contain.

Some would argue that they've been taking advantage of LRG collectors for quite some time.... oh wait.

Pass on all three. The Gradius clone doesn't look bad, but it's a Gradius clone. Gradius Collection is fine enough for me honestly. I'm just not much of a shmup fan is all, so doesn't interest me enough to get it. When Senko no Ronde releases I'll get that though, and if they ever release Jamestown which apparently someone from LRG mentioned it as it's been rumored to get a release. The other two look like trash and even if I was interested in getting Fallen Legion, which I'm not, I'd get the Switch version which contains both stories.

[Aussie2B]

Taking for granted and taking advantage are two different things.

[Aussie2B]

Heads-up: LRG combed through orders to cancel purchases that exceeded their order limits, so if you missed Fallen Legion or Super Hydorah, they're back in stock briefly. Vita Fallen Legion and standard Super Hydorah are already sold out again, but there's a little left of PS4 Fallen Legion and the Super Hydorah CE.

[megasdkirby]

Another fucking LRG release next week? Pricks.

Is that the ONLY game for Friday? Also, if the LE is just a bullshit release with a soundtrack and poster, they can shove it. I will but the normal edition.

Can you imagine the chaos once they start releasing Switch games? Thank goodness I won't bother with them.

[Aussie2B]

That's the only one announced so far for next Friday, but with them, who knows if more will be announced. They always talk about scheduling things out far in advance and promising to give more notice in the future, yet they never deliver on that. They say the 23rd will have nothing but a VR game (which won't be a part of their main numbered line). Probably Project LUX, unless they pull something else out of nowhere.

[Bojay1997]

That's the only one announced so far for next Friday, but with them, who knows if more will be announced. They always talk about scheduling things out far in advance and promising to give more notice in the future, yet they never deliver on that. They say the 23rd will have nothing but a VR game (which won't be a part of their main numbered line). Probably Project LUX, unless they pull something else out of nowhere.

According to Douglas, there will likely also be Organ Trail and Kero Blaster this Friday.

[kupomogli]

According to Douglas, there will likely also be Organ Trail and Kero Blaster this Friday.

Let me try something. Kero Blaster!! Totally awesome game because it's made by Pixel. Nevermind that it's a stupidly easy run and gun platformer, it's from the guy that made Cave Story! Challenge is overrated, stupidly easy games here I come!

Kero Blaster is a visually appealing game and because of the lack of any sort of difficulty, it's mediocre. Organ Trail is a novelty, nothing more. I'm not interested in visual novels, so two garbage games and another visual novel, no thanks.

My disinterested in visual novels aside, looks like LRG is trying to keep their bad and generic games streak alive for yet another week. When it comes to publishers, LRG has the most quality games in its library behind Namco Bandai, but it has by far the most amount of garbage compared to any other publisher this gen(and that's an understatement if I ever saw one.)

[Aussie2B]

Your standards are really inconsistent. I've seen you shower lavish praise on other games that are every bit as easy as the games you say are mediocre or bad just because they're easy. Also, you continuously fail to respect that not all gamers like to be challenged by games, to the point that you even mock them. Games are about having fun, not about showing off your e-peen, and different people find different things fun. Easy games have their place, are worth existing, and are worth receiving physical print runs.

[kupomogli]

Your standards are really inconsistent. I've seen you shower lavish praise on other games that are every bit as easy as the games you say are mediocre or bad just because they're easy.

Like what games?

[Aussie2B]

Final Fantasy games, Metroid-style Castlevania games, etc.

[mailman187666]

I just got my Sky Force Anniversary in today. For the first time ever, I got a gold card with the game (card #046). I don't really put much thought into the whole card thing, but I thought that was pretty cool and unexpected.

[Aussie2B]

I've gotten two or three so far, but I don't think I've ever gotten them with a standard game. Only with bundles or CEs or such where getting extra cards is part of the deal (or maybe even a guaranteed gold card, I dunno). And I never got a gold sticker or anything special like that in the old days, despite buying practically everything back then.

[mailman187666]

what are the odds of getting gold cards? is it 10% gold 90% silver per run or something along those lines?

[Aussie2B]

I'm not sure if they've ever given out specific info. They do keep a checklist where cards are ranked common/uncommon/rare/ultra rare, though: https://twitter.com/LimitedRunGames/status/971444192386969602

In other news, Organ Trail and Kero Blaster were confirmed for definitely being on March 16.

[kupomogli]

Final Fantasy games, Metroid-style Castlevania games, etc.

I'm sure you don't actually believe that. Exploration Castlevania games are my least favorite in the series, my favorite of those as well is Circle of the Moon considered to be the most difficult of them. That being said, even the easiest game in the franchise, SotN, isn't stupidly easy, especially if you don't sit around grinding. By going where you need to you actually die in a few hits on SotN, and considering each "checkpoint(save point)" is quite a ways away, it's not as easy as you think. That being said, SotN and HoD are the only ones that are considered easy. If you're me though, you make anything look easy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Le6F1dlC8

Final Fantasy games aren't really easy, for RPGs they're actually well balanced. You've got some stupidly easy crap like Pokemon's brain dead use one team of Pokemon throughout the entire game with no chance in hell at dying and then you've got your grindy as all hell Dragon Quest games where only one game in the series, Dragon Warrior 7 isn't quite as bad of a grind as the rest of them on "hard" end of the spectrum. I mean sure, there's Final Fantasy 8, just create 100 Curaga's and then limit break your way through the game, there's Final Fantasy 10 which is literally just common sense, switch characters and OHKO the enemies. Final Fantasy 6 and 7 are considered the easiest in the series otherwise, but not if for the majority of scrubs grinding on RPGs then again, they wouldn't be all that easy. I mean you have so many scrubs crying about getting stuck at the temple of ancients against the evil wall and crying about many of the different dungeons in Final Fantasy 6. For two of the easiest games in the series, there's a whole bunch of crying going on.

I'll throw you a bone though. I actually liked World of Final Fantasy and it's stupidly easy, but there's a difference between a platformer with absolutely no platforming, absolutely no skill required, and literally just going through the motions than an easy game that has some really quality gameplay elements and just happens to be pathetically easy. The customization that the game has between the monsters and the characters adds a lot of depth. Unfortunately to get anything out of it, you pretty much have to play it in a way to switch to weaker monsters in your party every new area you progress to so the game remains somewhat less than retardedly easy. Have I finished the game? No. It's because the lack of difficultly that I eventually quit playing because I'm more or less going through the motions(deja vu from the sentence above, right?) The difference is, early on in the game it has some sort of challenge, very little, but it does show through at the beginning, and you clearly see the potential the game has if it was just balanced a bit better and the game was made to be a little bit harder.

Honestly, balance imo is by far the most important aspect alongside a games gameplay(aside from the game not being broken.) You can have the greatest gameplay in the world, but if it's unbelievably easy or impossibly hard for whatever reason, the game is far worse than a game that's not nearly as good but far better balanced. If the gameplay isn't very good at the start ontop of being unbelievably easy or hard, there's not even a point to the game.

[megasdkirby]

I've gotten two or three so far, but I don't think I've ever gotten them with a standard game. Only with bundles or CEs or such where getting extra cards is part of the deal (or maybe even a guaranteed gold card, I dunno). And I never got a gold sticker or anything special like that in the old days, despite buying practically everything back then.

Never gotten one. Doesn't matter, though. Could care less about them.

[megasdkirby]

Well, it seems that LRG doesn't learn from their mistakes.

NURSE LOVE ADDICTION MEDKIT EDITION will be TWO per customer. At only 1500 copies, this is basically for 750 customers.

Seriously, as much as I like their releases, it makes me wonder if they are bound by idiocy.

[Aussie2B]

The standard run is way too small too. I think LRG is really overestimating how many people will be turned off by the price or the fact that it's a visual novel (or that it's a yuri romance VN) and underestimating how much draw it has for people who aren't normally into LRG's stuff. VN fans can be pretty dedicated, and they're no strangers to expensive LEs even. I really hope this won't be a bloodbath because I want at least enough time to add Organ Trail to my cart as well.

[megasdkirby]

Same here. Though at the same time I hope it does become one. That way people can call them out once again. Of course, that is if Doug even cares....Josh as well
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[Aussie2B]

A lot of news coming out lately. Thimbleweed Park is going to be LRG's first Switch game (also coming out for PS4), and Pixel Gear will be the first PlayStation VR game.

I also looks like +$15 over the digital price point is going to be LRG's standard policy in the future, sighs:

http://www.mightyrabbitstudios.com/limitedrunforums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4089

If they think people react badly to $50 Vita games, they're in for a world of pain when they start charging $55 + shipping. I know LRG is all about making games that would otherwise be digital-only available in a physical form, but I've also always seen them as a way to get budget games at budget prices. Many may be simplistic little indies, but I'm cool with that when I'm spending less than I would on an industry-made Vita game priced at the standard $40. But with this price increase, I'm going to be spending MORE on LRG's releases after the shipping fee is factored in than I would buying a standard $40 Vita release on Amazon, where I get free shipping and $8 off with Amazon Prime. I can tolerate rare exceptions where I'm spending more than the average Vita release, like with Nurse Love Addiction, but making that the new norm? I don't know if I'm okay with that.

I have sympathy for their costs of business going up, and I probably wouldn't be too bothered if each game got bumped up by a buck or two. But with the volume of releases, an extra $5 per adds up. At some point, you gotta ask yourself if what you're selling is even logical to buy for the consumer. Most consumers don't want to spend more money on simplistic indies than they do on industry-made games that have had bigger budgets put into their creation, more depth, play better, take longer to beat, etc.

It sounds like the usual prices will be around for a bit longer, since they've already locked in prices for some of the stuff they signed long ago. By June or so, they predict the higher prices to be the norm, which is lol-worthy itself because that's also when the "slow down" is supposedly coming. Wasn't that supposed to be, what, 6+ months ago now? So I guess we can expect to be inundated with releases through April and May, and I have zero trust that the "slow down" will even come in June, if it ever comes.

[kupomogli]

LRG new pricing policy. $30 for shitty games with maybe a good one on the extremely rare occasion, $35 for premium priced shitty games with maybe a good one on the extremely rare occasion.

LRG should add a slogan. Limited Run Games; We never said they'd be good. LRG; Our games sure as hell don't go to 11. LRG; Serious fun(just as long as you wait a long ass time for that one game to come along!)

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Also, before someone comes on to defend LRG for their new pricing. A $1 additional cost would cover almost any releases ESRB rating and most releases would profit additionally at thaht amount. $5 is just taking advantage, but it's the perfect excuse for them to increase prices and the apologists will jump up to their defense the moment anyone says anything bad about them as usual. Kind of reminds me of Nintendo fanatics, but atleast in their case the games are consistently good and here they're... well, not.

[Aussie2B]

If so few LRG releases appeal to you, then you should be happy because the overwhelming rate at which they've been cranking them out shouldn't affect you.

If they just upped their print runs, they wouldn't have to pass the buck to the consumers at all. Yet even after years of doing this, they're still seemingly so utterly terrified of a game taking longer than a few days to sell out. They've left a ridiculous amount of money on the table by underestimating demand time and time again. They see maybe a dozen people say that they're passing on Nurse Love Addiction on some random forum and suddenly they're so scared about how it will sell, and all I can do is shake my head.

[Gameguy]

A lot of news coming out lately. Thimbleweed Park is going to be LRG's first Switch game (also coming out for PS4), and Pixel Gear will be the first PlayStation VR game.
From what I read online for Thimbleweed Park the collectors edition versions from LRG with feelies will cost $65 each, yet I bought my PC version with the feelies for $40 from Fan Gamer(with free shipping). That's a bit of a difference. I don't get why Fan Gamer couldn't just get the rights for all versions.

Though I assume the console versions will be patched to the latest versions of the game, even for the physical PC version there's additional content only available through a download from GOG. I'm kind of tempted with the console versions even when I don't own the consoles.


If they think people react badly to $50 Vita games, they're in for a world of pain when they start charging $55 + shipping. I know LRG is all about making games that would otherwise be digital-only available in a physical form, but I've also always seen them as a way to get budget games at budget prices. Many may be simplistic little indies, but I'm cool with that when I'm spending less than I would on an industry-made Vita game priced at the standard $40. But with this price increase, I'm going to be spending MORE on LRG's releases after the shipping fee is factored in than I would buying a standard $40 Vita release on Amazon, where I get free shipping and $8 off with Amazon Prime. I can tolerate rare exceptions where I'm spending more than the average Vita release, like with Nurse Love Addiction, but making that the new norm? I don't know if I'm okay with that.
They're not selling games, they're selling rare collectors items. That's why they're justifying their pricing and limited print runs. It's "Teh R@re" stuff meant for collectors who regularly buy games for hundreds of dollars off ebay.

[Aussie2B]

I'm guessing Fangamer probably isn't on board as a Switch publisher. I know it took some time for LRG to get approved by Nintendo. Then the developer probably just gave LRG the PS4 rights to go along with that.

[megasdkirby]

They see maybe a dozen people say that they're passing on Nurse Love Addiction on some random forum and suddenly they're so scared about how it will sell, and all I can do is shake my head.

I called them out about this via tweets themselves. Even told them that the most a game has lasted has been a few days, but they always sell out relatively quickly. Even crap like Lawbreaker (only game I purposely never purchased). Then I just outright said that they fear a game last s few days in sale, for which they ignored me. I even have them another idea, one they themselves have done: one per customer and if, after 24hours, there are still copies, remove the restriction and offer to sell as many as a person wants. Recommendation of ignored, of course.

I want today to be a bloodbath, just so can I rub it in their faces. Like they will learn anyway.

[megasdkirby]

Got them.

Only got the Vita of Organ Trail. Left the PS4 version. Got the rest.

What about you guys?

[Aussie2B]

The first batch of Organ Trail (PS4 & Vita), Nurse Love Addiction (standard & Medkit Edition), and Kero Blaster (with or without the soundtrack) have been put up. I got a Vita Organ Trail and the CE of Nurse Love Addiction, and shock and awe, the Nurse Love Edition CE was entirely sold out (both by itself and within the mega-bundle) in 2 minutes. And this is the game LRG was scared would sell poorly. Anyway, there's still a fair amount of everything else still available. Come back for the second batch if you want another shot at the Medkit.

[megasdkirby]

Seems like Doug doesn't give a rats ass...

https://image.ibb.co/eYoW4c/Untitled.png (https://ibb.co/eAfdjc)

[Gameguy]

I'm guessing Fangamer probably isn't on board as a Switch publisher. I know it took some time for LRG to get approved by Nintendo. Then the developer probably just gave LRG the PS4 rights to go along with that.
Looking even more into it now, LRG had help with their collectors edition directly from Fangamer. It's basically the same stuff and packaging. I only found info on the release before from some game news site, I rarely check out LRG's own website.
https://limitedrungames.com/products/limited-run-01-thimbleweed-park-ce-switch

It sucks Fangamer isn't a Switch publisher then, it looks like they're publishing physical copies of Bloodstained for the Wii U. Unless I'm misunderstanding this.
https://fulfillment.fangamer.com/kindling/bloodstained


Seems like Doug doesn't give a rats ass...
He's really not making these for people who want to play them, it's just about making money.

[Aussie2B]

Fangamer and LRG have had a partnership for a while now. LRG often sells Fangamer merch alongside their releases when it exists. Same with CE contents. The frisbee that came with the LRG Windjammers CE is exactly the same as the one you can buy on Fangamer's site (besides the rare pink variant).

[Bojay1997]

He's really not making these for people who want to play them, it's just about making money.

This is a pretty narrow minded way of looking at the situation. It's entirely possible to want to make something neat and collectible in physical form available while also making money. Buyers can also do whatever they want with them, including playing the games. The great thing about all of the games LRG sells is that they can be purchased, often for far less money in digital form by anyone who wants to play them and doesn't want to bother with physical media.

[Bojay1997]

LRG new pricing policy. $30 for shitty games with maybe a good one on the extremely rare occasion, $35 for premium priced shitty games with maybe a good one on the extremely rare occasion.

LRG should add a slogan. Limited Run Games; We never said they'd be good. LRG; Our games sure as hell don't go to 11. LRG; Serious fun(just as long as you wait a long ass time for that one game to come along!)

*edit*

Also, before someone comes on to defend LRG for their new pricing. A $1 additional cost would cover almost any releases ESRB rating and most releases would profit additionally at thaht amount. $5 is just taking advantage, but it's the perfect excuse for them to increase prices and the apologists will jump up to their defense the moment anyone says anything bad about them as usual. Kind of reminds me of Nintendo fanatics, but atleast in their case the games are consistently good and here they're... well, not.

I'm not gonna defend the pricing, but the more I read your posts, the more I'm convinced that you have terrible taste in games. With a couple of notable exceptions, every single LRG release since the beginning has received great reviews prior to being released physically by LRG. Just because you don't like various games doesn't change the fact that a lot of other people do and are willing to put the reasons why in writing. Maybe you should find another hobby as this one seems to be making you sad and bitter.

[kupomogli]

I'm not gonna defend the pricing, but the more I read your posts, the more I'm convinced that you have terrible taste in games. With a couple of notable exceptions, every single LRG release since the beginning has received great reviews prior to being released physically by LRG. Just because you don't like various games doesn't change the fact that a lot of other people do and are willing to put the reasons why in writing. Maybe you should find another hobby as this one seems to be making you sad and bitter.

Have you ever thought that a lot of these games get high praise because not only are they indie games and cost less, but Kero Blaster for instance is from the developer that created Cave Story, an excellent and widely loved indie game?

Apparently though, Kero Blaster, Mutant Mudds, etc, are BETTER than Dracula X Chronicles. I mean of course they are, they did score higher after all. So a remake that's better than the original release, includes the original release, and includes SotN scores lower than a bunch of indie games that are nothing more than "going through the motions." Followed with dozens of reviews that the game is too hard and unfair and blah blah blah blah, when it's the best balanced game in the franchise.

Every game that is remotely difficult unless it's hyped all to hell is shit all over by gaming journalists. God Hand is now "an absolutely amazing gem of a game, one of the greatest games of all time." Yeah, now it is. Granted, these aren't the same people, but they're the next line of dumbasses that just got out of college using video game journalism to start their career. How many Cuphead videos, how many Doom videos, etc, do you guys need to see before you realize these people probably haven't touched a controller before the last five years. And you really think that their opinion offers the slightest bit of validity?

I mean think about it. Monster Hunter has always been scored fairly low, on the PS2 it was scored in the 60s, on PSP it was in the 70s. It wasn't until journalists realized that the series had a growing cult following that the games started scoring higher, and aside from the graphical increase, World is essentially the same game as all the rest, yet now it sits at 90 on Metacritic, higher than any past game in the series.

Final Fantasy 13, the most hated game in the series. The game is especially polarizing among fans, but it just so happens that every single journalist loved it. I mean such a huge coincidence right?

My point? Gaming journalism and the reviews that you read are all bullshit. 20 years from now you'll be hearing from whoever the new gaming journalists are that Has-Been Heroes is a hidden gem, and just like God Hand and just like Has-Been Heroes before it, they'll at the same time shit all over another gem that won't be recognized by anyone but the gamers who actually play it. A lot of the games released by LRG won't be remembered for their quality.

*edit*

Think of it as conspiracy theory, but it's not much of a theory, it's a fact and you can see it everywhere. Demon's Souls may have been the start of the Souls craze, but it was only on Playstation and mostly niche at the time. Dark Souls released and it became a lot bigger but the score was the same. Dark Souls 2 though, despite being worse than both past titles, scored higher because game journalists realized just how popular it was. Dark Souls 2 is a great game, but yeah, it's not the better game, it's only higher because of the well known hype from the series fanbase.

Journalism now is how they perceive the gamer wants to see a game scored. If a Zelda game gets anything below a 9/10, they receive death threats, so obviously they perceive that everyone wants to see every Zelda title near perfect, which is why each and every one of them score as such. This last part was a joke, but the whole thing about score being based on what public perception may be, I guarantee that's true.

[Aussie2B]

You say this as if amateur reviews are any different. Go ahead and browse Steam reviews of LRG's releases and see that most of those are positive too. But I'm sure you'll come up with a multitude of reasons to dismiss fan opinions too. It's abundantly clear that you have zero respect for any tastes and opinions other than your own, which apparently are the Objective Truth™ about games.

[kupomogli]

You say this as if amateur reviews are any different. Go ahead and browse Steam reviews of LRG's releases and see that most of those are positive too. But I'm sure you'll come up with a multitude of reasons to dismiss fan opinions too. It's abundantly clear that you have zero respect for any tastes and opinions other than your own, which apparently are the Objective Truth™ about games.

Why do you think video game journalism is such a huge business, whether it's to sites like IGN, Gamespot, etc, who are still in business, to Youtube journalism with hundreds of different mainstream channels. Most gamers buy into all the hype. They're sheep that'll buy whatever they're told is popular.

Final Fantasy as good as it may have been, is a casual as hell RPG series. Persona, took awhile, but after Persona 3 the series became well known. If you ask what's a good JRPG to play, you'll constantly hear Final Fantasy and Persona as those two are the most popular right now. Once those games are listed, you'll then hear more niche stuff, or from people who actually play the niche stuff, you might hear that as well. Now. I think Valkyrie Profile is a pretty trash game, you know this. But regardless of my opinion, even if Valkyrie Profile is a 10/10 game, 11/10, whatever, the problem is, is that it doesn't sell regardless. The original release, the sequel, and the rerelease didn't sell enough to bring the series back, and it's even getting another rerelease. I mean. If the game still hasn't caught on, that kind of tells you something right? You have to atleast admit that popularity sells. Why does popularity sell? Because the majority of gamers are sheep, plain and simple.

Btw, are you trying to argue that Dracula X Chronicles really isn't as good as Kero Blaster or Mutant Mudds? Is that what your comment is really about?

*edit*

I own PSVR now so I decided to check out Pixel Gear, LRGs very first PSVR game. And wow, this game looks like absolute shit. You know, being that it's their very first VR title and that they'd been around for so long. You'd think they'd want to get something great, something atleast good, memorable. Something that people are like, "Wow. Let's keep a look out for future VR releases from LRG." But no, as usual, like most of their other releases, LRG decides to get the bottom of the barrel trash. Way to ruin the great potential of your company all for the mighty dollar. I mean there's A LOT of VR games that are digital only compared to retail, and you guys decided to get the most generic trash you could find. It's like you didn't even attempt to get something good with as bad as your very first choice is. Good job LRG, good job.

I mean, I was in that other thread defending how the average current gen games are usually better than the past gen games, and honestly, not lying about it, I still stand behind that statement. But LRG certainly releases the most trash games at retail than any publisher this gen by far. BY FAR. Praising how good the latest gen has become, the potential to exceed the PS2 and maybe even PS1 in quality releases, praising how even though there's not as many God Hand's, Shadow of the Colossus', SMT Nocturne's, etc, that the average quality is atleast far beyond the average of past gen games, and then LRG releases its weekly shit game or even shit games, plural. LRG is single handedly pulling the quality of retail releases way down, while other publishers might only release a game here or there, the quality is far beyond the average shit that LRG releases. Would rather have fewer higher quality releases than the shit show that we see every week.

Releasing all the trash that they release, how many indie developers do you think actually are a bit skeptic on even letting LRG publish their games? How many actors in Hollywood don't do most roles they're offered because it would look bad to other writers and directors looking to hire them. It's honeslty the same thing, because honestly, these indie developers don't need LRG, the money that they'd make from the LRG release is nothing to them compared to how much they've already received from PSN or Steam on top of the game probably having a Kickstarter as well. I mean does Phil Fish need LRG to publish Fez? No, the money from LRG is chump change in comparison. So I bet you a lot of these developers would actually consider publishing through a smaller publisher that publishes more quality over more quantity and they probably look at all the shit LRG and isn't interested in publishing at all. They don't want their name tarnished by LRG reputation.

New tagline for LRG. LRG, the LJN of the 8th generation.

[megasdkirby]

Are the trading cards given with game purchases even worth selling? I know some fans will want to get them all, but I personally don't see any purpose for them. But also, I want to make sure they are worth selling, because if I will just get a few measily bucks for them, I rather just "collect" them...or at least see how far I can got with them.

On a side note, LRG should really start selling random packs of them on their site. Otherwise, it maybe quite impossible to get a complete set.

[Aussie2B]

So much for Badland Games supposedly being so consumer/gamer-friendly and being able to do what LRG does but so much better. I preordered the physical Vita release of Velocity 2X back in August, and after months and months and months of delays, the thing finally comes out, and copies of the game don't even include the merch that's advertised as being included right on the front of the dang case. What a royal screw-up. They did a pretty nice job with Axiom Verge, even if the outer box was ridiculously flimsy, but this bait and switch with Velocity 2X is just sad.

[Koa Zo]

Well aint this something. I hadn't been following the LRG releases the past few months.
This thread just got me to think "hmm what's Kero BLaster"?
watched a video, went to LRG site, 1 left in stock.
I guess it's my lucky day.
Though I hate buying these releases with no manual. Seems like Kero Blaster is the perfect type of game for a detailed old-school illustrated type of manual - presenting backstory, characters, weapons, control, main enemies, boss profiles, world overview, etc. Just seems so lame to print a commemorative run of 4000 copies but not even pay the property enough respect to give it a manual.

[Aussie2B]

It is a shame, especially how there was a stretch starting with Xeodrifter where it seemed like most releases going forward would be getting manuals, only for it to drop off, with manuals being a sporadic thing now. I guess most of the developers don't think it's worth the effort.

[Koa Zo]

Manual design and layout could certainly be a lot of extra work. In the instance of these supposed choice limited release games, I'd think a full complete release with proper manual would be a labor of love.

[Gameguy]

This is a pretty narrow minded way of looking at the situation. It's entirely possible to want to make something neat and collectible in physical form available while also making money. Buyers can also do whatever they want with them, including playing the games. The great thing about all of the games LRG sells is that they can be purchased, often for far less money in digital form by anyone who wants to play them and doesn't want to bother with physical media.
If it was mostly about making game players happy then the print runs would be larger, if games are selling out within minutes or days then there's still more demand than what's produced. It's collectors that want to own things because they're exceptionally rare and that's who these releases are marketed to.

When I bought the PC version of Thimbleweed Park from Fangamer it was last November, physical copies are still currently in stock. It's not even counting all the physical copies that were originally made available to the backers on Kickstarter. There's no shortage of this collectors edition even when it's not a wide retail release in any way.