Limited Run Games (producing physical copies of digital games)

[Gameguy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS3ja5JnkAQ

New video about the shady dealings of LRG, as well as their questionable practices. I know there will always be a apologist for the company, but overall, some very informative stuff was mentioned.
Interesting video, I wasn't aware of the shadiness of the involvement with Metal Jesus Rocks. Didn't know about that weird situation where an employee of LRG published his own poorly reviewed game through LRG, yet LRG later claimed they weren't the ones publishing it and aren't responsible for what their employees are doing on their own, yet the release says LRG right on it and was sold directly through LRG including in it's pop-up store, and the same game on other platforms are openly sold/published by LRG. Most of the other practices I pretty much new about already.

You're probably right about the apologists defending them. Rereading this thread by 4-5 years is pretty funny how some users defend shady business practices like aiming at collectors' OCD tendencies with excessive variants and FOMO stating that as they're just a business it's completely fine. It's like defending how modern games introduced loot boxes which are just predatory attempts at circumventing gambling laws, aimed at "whales" with gambling addictions. It's all business, so anything to make a profit is fine.

[Tron 2.0]

I haven't order anything from lrg this past summer.I was getting sick of the upkeep from last year every time i thought i bought what i wanted another game would popup.After spending,more then i should have from them last year i just decided to take a break from buying through lrg.I've notice lately such that lrg releases are not the be the all end of it being limited.Heck streets of rage four is getting released again at retail with the anniversary edition and blaster master zero 1,2,3 as a set for japanese and asain markets.

[Niku-Sama]

i think i am done with them all together.

the lead time keeps getting longer and longer, the support isnt great and i am seeing more and more of these games in the retail space instead of just being available through their site.


that last part is what gets me the most. early on it was implied that these games are only available through us here or occasionally a convention. that implication is still in place and i think its kinda shitty they haven't communicated it on a broader lever to the world that some of these games you can go down and pick up at X Store or X partner web site. They are even numbered releases, i can go down and get Scott Pilgrim for PS4 at bestbuy right now, its just sitting there, probably for less than what i paid. The one that pisses me off the most was the preorder for Metal Wolf Chaos XD for PS4, i pre ordered it the hour it was available to. It took forever to come out, so long in fact that a version of the game came out at GAMESTOP before i ever got the pre order from LRG.

my most recent game Roombo First Blood didnt take so long but long enough to have forgotten about it until i get an email thats is about to ship. The email said to update your shipping addresses before a certain time. Normally not a problem, great i can do that... except that time was 4 hours after the time i got the email and i was driving long distance and couldnt just stop and update my shipping address. i feel its a notification that should've been about 48 hours before the deadline to update the address.

In the end i feel they prey on the fact they gained this rep of exclusive games only available through their means but in the end, at least lately it might have not always been this way, most of them will end up in stores any way.

[Tron 2.0]

i think i am done with them all together.

the lead time keeps getting longer and longer, the support isnt great and i am seeing more and more of these games in the retail space instead of just being available through their site.


that last part is what gets me the most. early on it was implied that these games are only available through us here or occasionally a convention. that implication is still in place and i think its kinda shitty they haven't communicated it on a broader lever to the world that some of these games you can go down and pick up at X Store or X partner web site. They are even numbered releases, i can go down and get Scott Pilgrim for PS4 at bestbuy right now, its just sitting there, probably for less than what i paid. The one that pisses me off the most was the preorder for Metal Wolf Chaos XD for PS4, i pre ordered it the hour it was available to. It took forever to come out, so long in fact that a version of the game came out at GAMESTOP before i ever got the pre order from LRG.

my most recent game Roombo First Blood didnt take so long but long enough to have forgotten about it until i get an email thats is about to ship. The email said to update your shipping addresses before a certain time. Normally not a problem, great i can do that... except that time was 4 hours after the time i got the email and i was driving long distance and couldnt just stop and update my shipping address. i feel its a notification that should've been about 48 hours before the deadline to update the address.

In the end i feel they prey on the fact they gained this rep of exclusive games only available through their means but in the end, at least lately it might have not always been this way, most of them will end up in stores any way.
I only preorder from them last year in the fall for a few games and that was it.I was looking at what they were selling last month and this one and i mostly passed such as the vails collection" if i want a physical copy,i can all ways import the japanese one.Then as of last week i went by cartridges galore for some famicom games i was trading in and they still had copies of "blaster master zero 3" so i bought it to complete the trilogy.Still i'm not gonna go all out with there releases anymore there just to many as of late.

[Spartacus]

To be fair, Metal Wolf Chaos XD was from Special Reserve Games, not LRG. The pandemic has effected everyone's shipping times, even big outfits like Amazon. So I'm willing to cut people some slack there. I bought Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy and Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast separately from LRG and I see both titles are on a compilation disc at Amazon for half the price I paid. I think the same thing happened with Star Wars Racer Revenge and Star Wars: Republic Commando too. That smarts!
What I won't do anymore is invest in crowd funding games, only to see the damn things get a retail release. I'm all for retail releases, but I'll be damned if I'm going to risk my cash for everyone else's benefit. Sounds selfish. It is!

[Niku-Sama]

oh yea i forgot about them, but the fact still remains about them ending up in retail

[Gamevet]

I remember missing the reserve for Darius Burst Chronicles for the PS4. People were already selling the Collector’s Edition for @$150 on eBay. I found the official Japanese release of that same set for $100 and bought that instead.

I’ve only reserved a few games from them, with the latest being the Castlevania Collection featuring Symphony of the Night and Rhondo of Blood. Most of what they are putting out is just shitty Small Dev games with no track record.

[Niku-Sama]

its interesting what resellers are doing for some of these. you can really tell they generated the hype and the scalpers scoop them up but when they get them to resell they are kinda stuck.
i got curse of the moon 2 classic what ever edition new for switch recently at a swap meet and the guy had $70 on it, i was looking to trade and i think in the end i got the game for the equivalent of about $40 or $50 in what ever the games i traded were.
and the thing is, not many of them are limited at all.


edit:
so this is strange...

i went to look up the cost of that game i got at the swap when it was being sold at LRG and noticed these:

https://limitedrungames.com/products/bloodstained-curse-of-the-moon-best-buy-exclusive-cover-sheet
https://limitedrungames.com/products/bloodstained-curse-of-the-moon-2-best-buy-exclusive-cover-sheet

kinda seems a bit sketch in a way, cheap way to get good empty game cases for loose switch games though

[Gameguy]

i went to look up the cost of that game i got at the swap when it was being sold at LRG and noticed these:

https://limitedrungames.com/products/bloodstained-curse-of-the-moon-best-buy-exclusive-cover-sheet
https://limitedrungames.com/products/bloodstained-curse-of-the-moon-2-best-buy-exclusive-cover-sheet

kinda seems a bit sketch in a way, cheap way to get good empty game cases for loose switch games though
So I guess they forgot what the word "exclusive" means.

You know what, I half expect them to just make limited editions of games, and then reprint them with a second "limited" print run. Like you need to hurry as there's only 500 copies available, and when they're sold out, then they'll make a second 500 copies.

[Niku-Sama]

this one made me giggle

https://limitedrungames.com/products/switch-limited-run-77-star-wars-episode-i-racer
https://limitedrungames.com/products/switch-limited-run-103-star-wars-republic-commando

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Racer-Commando-Combo-Nintendo/dp/B09GQJRGB1/ref=sr_1_24?c=ts&keywords=Nintendo%2BSwitch%2BGames&qid=1648022240&s=videogames&sr=1-24&ts_id=16227133011&th=1

[Gamevet]

I’m almost tempted to pick those up from Amazon.

[Niku-Sama]

yea i was thinking the same thing

[Tron 2.0]

LRG just had a showcase recently the most i'm interested in is rcg2,tmnt shredders revenge and two cave shoot'em ups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srqc6DQH6M8
That's if i order thing else from lrg this summer i may try to keep it down two preorders and that's it since i don't wanna over spend from lrg again.Funny enough just yesterday a local brick&motor i frequent for buying,selling and trading video games.They had one copy left for double dragon neon for switch from lrg so i bought it combine with a trade in for paying less to buy it.

[kupomogli]

So I guess they forgot what the word "exclusive" means.

You know what, I half expect them to just make limited editions of games, and then reprint them with a second "limited" print run. Like you need to hurry as there's only 500 copies available, and when they're sold out, then they'll make a second 500 copies.

They kind of already do that when they rerelease games at Best Buy. You have no idea which games are being released at Best Buy. Granted it "might" be a single printing, but what I'm pretty sure happens is based on the popularity of the title they print more and ship those to Best Buy. Who knows how much inside knowledge they have about available Best Buy stock to reprint copies, no one knows that they're being reprinted if they are. Some games have been at Best Buy for over a year.

Do you really expect me to believe that Bloodstained Curse of the Moon 2 is still in stock at Best Buy online because all copies haven't yet sold? Especially when it's been there for over a year, not to mention atleast a dozen other LRG games? Not only that, it's BOTH the Switch AND PS4 versions. I can't exactly guarantee, but I don't think it's a coincidence that these games have remained in stock. With as scummy as LRG has become within their second year of existence, but especially now.

[Niku-Sama]

i stumbled across this video a little while ago and thought about sharing it or not
sorry if its been posted before but i wasnt going to sift through this whole thread looking if it was or not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS3ja5JnkAQ

it follows kinda the same thing i think about them, with the added failed scalper attempts in the current time

[Tron 2.0]

Well i don't know why a investment group would buy lrg but here it is they are now owned by the embracer group.
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/08/embracer-group-acquires-bitwave-games-gioteck-limited-run-games-middle-earth-enterprises-singtrix-tatsujin-tripwire-interactive-and-tuxedo-labs

[kupomogli]

The Embracer Group is THQ Nordic and Koch Media, also known as Deep Silver. Basically the worst publishers in the industry who unfortunately have bought up the rights to many of the best AA development studios. They're the best, worst company in gaming because there's so much talent but owned and ran by some of the scummiest management in the industry.

As great as the games are, Battle Chasers Nightwar(hidden gem, amazing RPG,) Titan Quest, This is the Police, the Darksiders remasters and the new Darksiders games, the games are riddled with bugs, glitches, massive frame drops, crashes, etc, and yes, even This is the Police which is almost entirely 2D.

As often as LRG released games that weren't full patched(all the freaking time) or often times started to release the games for a day one preorder which we know won't have all the patches even when we get it eight months from now, or just how bs the prices have got. LRG usually charges an extra $20 per release instead of their initial statement of "we'll never charge more than $10 beyond the digital price" and don't feed me that line because Switch price parity because Switch carts don't cost that much, or what about back then when they were only $15 extra, or how about when the games are only getting a PS4 version, what's the excuse then? The Switch carts being more expensive is an excuse because they've kept on raising the price beyond the extra $5 they said was only due to price parity with Switch. There's almost nothing released now that isn't $20 extra.

But is one of the worst publishers in gaming going to make LRG worse, or are they going to let them run things as they already are since you can't possibly be more douchier than LRG already is to their fanbase without having people no longer interested at all and just quit buying from you period.

[Steve W]

The Embracer Group just bought up the rights to Lord Of The Rings and all Tolkein's works. So expect them to be whored out in a million ways.

[Niku-Sama]

sounds like they are the new EA

[The S]

I keep forgetting who the eff Embracer Group is, I never hear about them until they buy up someone new, then I have to go Google them to remember "oh yeah, right."

[Gameguy]

The Embracer Group just bought up the rights to Lord Of The Rings and all Tolkein's works. So expect them to be whored out in a million ways.
You mean even more than they have been already? It's hard to imagine that being possible.

[Tron 2.0]

Well lrg is getting backlash recently and it's not game related either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=172fJew0Ft4

[Niku-Sama]

bro really?

[Tron 2.0]

bro really?
Uhhh yikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpGFxDawlR8

[Gameguy]

I can't believe I watched the entirety of that first video. As much as I don't like woke stuff forced everywhere, the people endlessly complaining about woke stuff are just as annoying. That's all this youtube channel does, make videos complaining about woke topics. This "controversy" is apparently enough to get this Clownfish youtube creator to stop buying any Limited Run games, when none of the previous controversies surrounding Limited Run accomplished this.

[Greg2600]

So the head of social media or whatever was indeed fired for liking tweets? Is that the gist of it?

[Niku-Sama]

i fell asleep on the first video, i get the complaint but was it worth the time to gripe about it in a 30 minute long video?
fishing for views at that point

[Aussie2B]

Not for likes. One of their community managers was fired over a tweet she herself made in 2016 and for a handful of accounts she was following on Twitter. What seemingly prompted someone to search through her tweet history and 1000+ follows was the fact she said she was excited for Hogwarts Legacy, which itself is controversial right now, to the point that people draw conclusions on your political stances and beliefs based on if you're against the game or plan to buy and play it.

[Spartacus]

people draw conclusions on your political stances and beliefs based on if you're against the game or plan to buy and play it.

Well if that's the case, then I'll make an effort to purchase AND play Hogwarts Legacy. I've haven't read any of the books or played any of the Harry Potter games before. But I dislike bullies.

[Greg2600]

Not for likes. One of their community managers was fired over a tweet she herself made in 2016 and for a handful of accounts she was following on Twitter. What seemingly prompted someone to search through her tweet history and 1000+ follows was the fact she said she was excited for Hogwarts Legacy, which itself is controversial right now, to the point that people draw conclusions on your political stances and beliefs based on if you're against the game or plan to buy and play it.

Unfortunately the internet is full of decrepit souls.

[Gamevet]

People! (Rolls eyes)

[Tron 2.0]

Not for likes. One of their community managers was fired over a tweet she herself made in 2016 and for a handful of accounts she was following on Twitter. What seemingly prompted someone to search through her tweet history and 1000+ follows was the fact she said she was excited for Hogwarts Legacy, which itself is controversial right now, to the point that people draw conclusions on your political stances and beliefs based on if you're against the game or plan to buy and play it.
Pretty much social media is cancer say some thing that is not politically correct and even it was years ago it will come back to haunt you.

[Gameguy]

i get the complaint but was it worth the time to gripe about it in a 30 minute long video?
fishing for views at that point
That's the entire channel, that's every video. Same with YongYea, TheQuartering, and various other youtubers that are just about complaining about woke policies. Jim Sterling is the other way, complaining about every non-woke policy. Jim Sterling used to review video games at one point, now just complains about capitalism and business practices. Just watch any of these videos if you're in too good of a mood and want to start hating the day.


Pretty much social media is cancer say some thing that is not politically correct and even it was years ago it will come back to haunt you.
I don't understand why so many people have the need for verbal diarrhea, like needing to say every opinion and every thought that comes to mind publicly and immortalized. It's like the various criminals that record their crimes and post the videos online, only to be arrested and prosecuted based on their own publicised evidence.

[YoshiM]

I didn't bother to watch the videos. I've got my eyeballs up to here :: Puts hand above forehead :: with drama thanks to reading about the Wizards of the Coast OGL debacle that seemed to pull in quasi unrelated points.


I don't understand why so many people have the need for verbal diarrhea, like needing to say every opinion and every thought that comes to mind publicly and immortalized. It's like the various criminals that record their crimes and post the videos online, only to be arrested and prosecuted based on their own publicised evidence.

I think it may be due to the fact that others blazed that transparent trail and that concept of dropping every nugget of thought onto digital bits just became ingrained.

I just ordered "Tempest 4000" for Switch from there. 'Nuff said.

[Tron 2.0]

I don't understand why so many people have the need for verbal diarrhea, like needing to say every opinion and every thought that comes to mind publicly and immortalized. It's like the various criminals that record their crimes and post the videos online, only to be arrested and prosecuted based on their own publicised evidence.
Got me if this manger was fired just for doing a poor job then i get it but over for what she supports or some thing i don't get it all.Still i don't get social media at all either.It seems most of the time it's used to judge people over what they believe in and if it doesn't match up to you're own,then you are a terrible person.This current issue hasn't stop me from buying lrg completely last month i did preorder that reprint of "gleylancer" for the sega genesis that retrobit is offering.

[Tron 2.0]

This former manager of lrg has put out a tweet to explain her side of the story if anyone wants to read it.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss7qv2

[YoshiM]

This former manager of lrg has put out a tweet to explain her side of the story if anyone wants to read it.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss7qv2

My curiosity got the best of me so I read her extendo-tweet. Then I read more about it. Wow. It's pretty incredible how what's essentially a vocal minority (in this case anyway) can rally enough support and smear someone with barely enough credible evidence other than the person expressing their feelings about transgender bathroom use and then happen to be following particular groups that this person (or group of people) are against. And how that minute of a case was enough to scare a company into letting go their community manager. The icing on the cake is that this Brony person is also trying to get LRG to supposedl

I don't know how big LRG really is but I don't think that they could handle a massive "anti-LGBTQ+" smear campaign against them. As is seems (again, according to the Internet) crap like this that gets out of hand starts to scare other folks that relate to the target company. Suddenly developers may not want to associate with LRG and will pull back their games from being published by LRG. The ball just keeps rolling downhill to the point where LRG becomes near taboo and they have to close up shop. Not because of absolute truth but due to pure perception thanks to an Internet Mob. That is the fear....whether it would have happened we'll never know.

It's a sad state of affairs we are currently in. However in poetic justice, this Purple Tinker was put under the microscope by folks defending the manager and suddenly they are under some hot water.

It's stuff like this that make me NOT want to put stuff online. I wanted to get back into Youtube just for fun but even as insignificant as I am I'd hate something to be misconstrued and then my life could become a living hell. The power of the few controlling one's voice....oi.

[Gameguy]

This former manager of lrg has put out a tweet to explain her side of the story if anyone wants to read it.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ss7qv2
Interesting, but also a bit odd in spots.


The craziest thing about the whole situation was that we were already in the midst of hiring a new community manager because I had expressed in the previous months that I was feeling burnt out and wanted to try something new. Social media in general was taking a significant toll on my daily life and mental health and was in need of a change. January was going to be my last month as the community manager.

Honestly, I have no idea what my future will bring me. I’m not sure if I’ll attempt to pursue content creation again, get back into the gaming industry, or try to find something new and fulfilling.
So January was going to be your last month in that position anyway, but you had no plans for the future beyond that? You might attempt to pursue content creation again, even though you were burnt out from it to the point of leaving your position? So what position were you planning to work on after January ended and why not pursue that elsewhere now? You planned this months in advance didn't you? Or was there really no plan or direction you were heading in for February? It seems like LRG was looking for a reason to get rid of her by that point and this controversy just conveniently presented itself.



I have no hatred toward anyone who was involved in the call for my termination. If you personally and truly felt like I had hurt the community in some way, then you have the right to that opinion, but know that I do not see it that way.

If we could take one thing from this situation it would be to bring to light the dangers of cancel culture. I have always been opposed to it and have voiced my disagreement with how it is handled. It can be hurtful to all parties involved. If you don’t like something, vote with your wallet and move along. There’s no need for vicious attacks on people or companies.
"You have every right to your opinion if you truly felt I had hurt the community, and by that I mean please keep it to yourself and STFU."

It feels a bit weird to me with how it's worded, and this was carefully written with planning. Just seems a bit contradictory.

[Greg2600]

Her response was very reasonable. I feel bad for this girl. The pitchforks came out and LRG are cowards, and that's all there is to it. Glad I have never been much of a customer with them.

[Aussie2B]

From what I've read, I believe the original plan was for her to shift to a different position within LRG at the end of January, not quitting the company outright. So in that regard, she wasn't prepared to be complete without work and having to find an entirely new employer.

[Gameguy]

From what I've read, I believe the original plan was for her to shift to a different position within LRG at the end of January, not quitting the company outright.
And LRG was happy with this plan? She asked for a different position, it wasn't LRG feeling that she would be more useful to them in a different role and offered a promotion. Like I said, I think LRG was looking for a reason to get rid of her and was happy this opportunity came up.

She still hasn't mentioned what her new position would have been at the end of the month, that should have been decided and some training should have taken place by that point. Whatever that role would have been, she could be now pursuing that same role at a different company. To now say she has no plans for the future, it's like saying she didn't have a specific goal in mind at LRG, she just wanted any different role than what she was doing.

[Aussie2B]

No idea on the specific details, and I don't think anybody involved is going to share every last minute detail, sentiment, and motive. She's been doing interviews, so maybe she'll share more information that wasn't available in that tweet.

I definitely don't think LRG is happy about any of this. The people who rallied for her firing are still not satisfied. They don't like the wording of the statement LRG made about her termination, and they don't trust that LRG didn't just fire her because they felt they had to, not because they were actually opposed to any of her views. Many of the people who wanted her fired are still choosing to boycott LRG (if they ever bought from them to begin with) because they feel the company is transphobic as well for hiring her to begin with. On the flip side, LRG has gotten a ton of backlash from people who oppose her firing. It's been a lose/lose for them. I'm sure they would've much preferred for none of this to have happened and to have had her switch positions or leave the company quietly. In fact, with the vague tweets Doug has been making, I get the impression he has regrets about how it was handled.

[Greg2600]

And LRG was happy with this plan? She asked for a different position, it wasn't LRG feeling that she would be more useful to them in a different role and offered a promotion. Like I said, I think LRG was looking for a reason to get rid of her and was happy this opportunity came up.

She still hasn't mentioned what her new position would have been at the end of the month, that should have been decided and some training should have taken place by that point. Whatever that role would have been, she could be now pursuing that same role at a different company. To now say she has no plans for the future, it's like saying she didn't have a specific goal in mind at LRG, she just wanted any different role than what she was doing.

People change roles all the time, and it's a very daunting one so makes sense you want to move on.


No idea on the specific details, and I don't think anybody involved is going to share every last minute detail, sentiment, and motive. She's been doing interviews, so maybe she'll share more information that wasn't available in that tweet.

I definitely don't think LRG is happy about any of this. The people who rallied for her firing are still not satisfied. They don't like the wording of the statement LRG made about her termination, and they don't trust that LRG didn't just fire her because they felt they had to, not because they were actually opposed to any of her views. Many of the people who wanted her fired are still choosing to boycott LRG (if they ever bought from them to begin with) because they feel the company is transphobic as well for hiring her to begin with. On the flip side, LRG has gotten a ton of backlash from people who oppose her firing. It's been a lose/lose for them. I'm sure they would've much preferred for none of this to have happened and to have had her switch positions or leave the company quietly. In fact, with the vague tweets Doug has been making, I get the impression he has regrets about how it was handled.

Well LRG is part of Embracer Group, and that's who are making the calls here.

[Tron 2.0]

Another interview with this former lrg manger who knows if this bad press sits well with the embracer group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEP0nBt-AEc

[Tron 2.0]

LGR had there showcase recently most i'm interested in is M2 tiger heli collection,castlevania advance collection and shantae risky revolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWRytWXN4KE

[Steve W]

Collosal Cave looks cool. Chickory looks weird, I have no idea what the gameplay is like even though I just saw video of it being played. I got excited when he started talking about the Philips CD-i Zelda games, and I was hoping there was some kind of crazy licensing deal to bring ports of those games to the PS4 and PS5, but no. It's just a game roughly similar to it. Odencat's Paradise collection looks nice.

I'm getting a bit tired of all the pixel art RPGs by Limited Run. I've bought several of them, but I think the market's been flooded with them at this point. Every time I see a Limited Run number on a case spine I always think there's a 50/50 chance it'll be a low-rez RPG or sidescroller when I pull it off a store shelf. The aestetic is wearing out its welcome. Maybe a role playing game could do something interesting with the idea, maybe each level in the game could represent an advance in graphics - the first level could look similar to Adventure on the Atari 2600, second level could look like an early NES game, the third could look like a SNES level, then a PS1 level, that kind of thing. As you advance in the game, the graphics get better. That would be interesting.

[SparTonberry]

Gee... if only LRG games were targeted for people who bought they games because they wanted the games and not for people who feel compelled to buy every game in existence...

[Steve W]

I feel sorry for anybody trying to buy every PS4 game in existence, there's something like 4000 or more physical games. All I know is that if you come across a cool looking game in a store and pass on it, there's a high probability you'll never see it again. I've done that too many times. Didn't buy Cannon Spike for the Dreamcast, never saw it again outside a game convention. Ring of Rose for the PS2? Passed on it, goes for something like $600 now. Yikes. So if I find a game that looks fun and it's at a reasonable price, I try and grab it.

[SparTonberry]

I was intrigued by Ring of Rose for the notoriety, but I can recall passing it up when I saw it listed at like $60 for a loose scratched disc so many years ago. I suppose even that goes for much higher now.

[Tron 2.0]

LRG in trouble again this time for selling cdrs for 3do games.
https://twitter.com/Voultar/status/1785760704663896230

[Gameguy]

I feel sorry for anybody trying to buy every PS4 game in existence, there's something like 4000 or more physical games. All I know is that if you come across a cool looking game in a store and pass on it, there's a high probability you'll never see it again. I've done that too many times. Didn't buy Cannon Spike for the Dreamcast, never saw it again outside a game convention. Ring of Rose for the PS2? Passed on it, goes for something like $600 now. Yikes. So if I find a game that looks fun and it's at a reasonable price, I try and grab it.

I was intrigued by Ring of Rose for the notoriety, but I can recall passing it up when I saw it listed at like $60 for a loose scratched disc so many years ago. I suppose even that goes for much higher now.
These posts are a bit old now but I guess I missed them the first time. I've passed on Rule of Rose at EB Games when it was about $60 brand new, I figured I'd wait for a used copy to turn up around $20. Never happened. Same with Solatorobo for the DS, it was I think $20 new at EB Games but it was an open copy being sold as new, so I wanted to wait for a used one or to find an actual sealed one at a different location. Again, never happened and I missed out. Who knows, maybe I'll eventually come across copies at some garage sale. Those are just some of the new-at-retail releases I passed on, I passed on used games at thrifts and other locations which were much worse to miss out on.


LRG in trouble again this time for selling cdrs for 3do games.
https://twitter.com/Voultar/status/1785760704663896230
I heard about this earlier today, some youtube posters were talking about it. I guess you're supposed to just keep the games sealed to be graded, you're not supposed to open the packages to view the contents.

I remember when posting negative comments on LRG here was frowned upon, any poor business practice by them was excused by supporters who bought every release. Time has really changed things.

[Tron 2.0]

I heard about this earlier today, some youtube posters were talking about it. I guess you're supposed to just keep the games sealed to be graded, you're not supposed to open the packages to view the contents.

I remember when posting negative comments on LRG here was frowned upon, any poor business practice by them was excused by supporters who bought every release. Time has really changed things.
I guess this shows how cheap lrg can be instead of paying to have pressed cds they went with cdrs,instead.There parent company embracer group isn't any better after they bought allot of devs it has cost them.Now the embracer group is shutting them down or selling them off to cut cost.

[Steve W]

Not to defend their actions, but where can a company go to in 2024 to find a manufacturer that still masters CD-ROMs? I can't imagine there would be any CD-ROM pressers left. Embracer Group are fairly crappy, but I can't believe they had a lot of options. They probably had to build their own CD reproduction set-up to make their own CD-Rs. They really should have informed people before they paid for the games. I can download a 3DO game and burn it to a CD myself, I don't need to spend a pile of cash and wait for months for delivery to play the game in a console.

[Gameguy]

Not to defend their actions, but where can a company go to in 2024 to find a manufacturer that still masters CD-ROMs? I can't imagine there would be any CD-ROM pressers left. Embracer Group are fairly crappy, but I can't believe they had a lot of options. They probably had to build their own CD reproduction set-up to make their own CD-Rs. They really should have informed people before they paid for the games. I can download a 3DO game and burn it to a CD myself, I don't need to spend a pile of cash and wait for months for delivery to play the game in a console.
Just search for "CD replication" and you'll find dozens if not hundreds of companies that offer the service of manufacturing pressed discs. In 2024 you can still get custom cassette tapes or VHS tapes duplicated professionally from certain manufacturers, CDs/DVDs/Blurays aren't a problem.

I spent 2 minutes searching on google and found several companies, I'll just post a link to one that specifically mentions CD-ROM replication. They offer CD-ROM replication which is factory pressed, or CD duplication which is burned. So far I just looked at companies that are actually near my area, there are tons out there.

http://www.cdmanufacturing.ca/dvd_replication.php


Another quick search, floppy disk duplication is still available.

https://www.dclmediaprints.com/collections/floppy-disk-duplication

[Aussie2B]

I remember when posting negative comments on LRG here was frowned upon, any poor business practice by them was excused by supporters who bought every release. Time has really changed things.

Outside of posts that break the rules of the forum, nothing was "frowned upon." People were always welcome to post criticism. But that doesn't mean other people have to agree with that criticism and think it's well-founded. People also have the right to post their disagreement with criticism. What is a "poor business practice" to one person isn't necessarily regarded as the same to another.

For some people, yes, their opinion of LRG has shifted over time. That's to be expected as a company builds an ever-growing history and people derive from that a positive or negative opinion. This topic was created before LRG's very first title had even been put up for sale. They had no history at that point and thus virtually no reason for anyone to hate on them. But even in my opening post, there were criticisms, so this whole narrative you're pushing here doesn't check out.

[SparTonberry]

Just search for "CD replication" and you'll find dozens if not hundreds of companies that offer the service of manufacturing pressed discs. In 2024 you can still get custom cassette tapes or VHS tapes duplicated professionally from certain manufacturers, CDs/DVDs/Blurays aren't a problem.

I spent 2 minutes searching on google and found several companies, I'll just post a link to one that specifically mentions CD-ROM replication. They offer CD-ROM replication which is factory pressed, or CD duplication which is burned. So far I just looked at companies that are actually near my area, there are tons out there.

http://www.cdmanufacturing.ca/dvd_replication.php


Another quick search, floppy disk duplication is still available.

https://www.dclmediaprints.com/collections/floppy-disk-duplication

Dying businesses: I was backing up my video DVDs and some were unreadable. Attempts to find a place nearby that would resurface discs for the public didn't turn out. The local Half-Price Books told me no, and when I called up another business recommended by a Google search, they told me it wasn't offered anymore. Had the demand for the equipment/training to use it failed by this point as people were more accustomed to streaming services?

[Greg2600]

Look, I really don't care one way or the other, but why exactly are people BUYING these games? They can be burned and played on any 3DO as it is, if you don't have an original copy. I recognize LRG releases are "collectible" and need to be sealed in most cases, so does it matter if they put a CD of Spice Girls in the case? LOL

[Gameguy]

Dying businesses: I was backing up my video DVDs and some were unreadable. Attempts to find a place nearby that would resurface discs for the public didn't turn out. The local Half-Price Books told me no, and when I called up another business recommended by a Google search, they told me it wasn't offered anymore. Had the demand for the equipment/training to use it failed by this point as people were more accustomed to streaming services?
Maybe those business are dying but they're not actually dead yet. LRG could have had the discs made from one of the businesses that still exist.

Also, disc resurfacing is different than disc manufacturing. It's like saying buying new TVs is near impossible as there's few repair shops offering to repair TVs anymore. Personally I also find it difficult to find any place locally that resurfaces discs anymore, there was a local used CD store I asked and was told that they send out discs to a place for resurfacing but this isn't an option they make available to customers.

Something else to consider concerning your DVDs, many DVDs are starting to suffer from disc rot and are becoming unplayable. This is mostly with a selection of specific Warner Bros discs that were made during a specific time period all from the same manufacturing plant. The same issue affects discs from other companies as well, including a large number of Disney Treasures releases. I'm getting nervous buying older DVDs now.

Here's a link to a list of affected Warner Bros titles by the way, there's probably even more that aren't listed yet.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CyLGHyuhA2mfhPr4Bkyj8RAapl_0LTmN/edit


Look, I really don't care one way or the other, but why exactly are people BUYING these games? They can be burned and played on any 3DO as it is, if you don't have an original copy. I recognize LRG releases are "collectible" and need to be sealed in most cases, so does it matter if they put a CD of Spice Girls in the case? LOL
The people buying them are the OCD collectors who need every release and ebay resellers, it's LRG's target demographic.

[Az]

Dying businesses: I was backing up my video DVDs and some were unreadable.

I have one of those Skip Dr. hand cranked sandpaper wheel things that I bought probably 15+ years ago. I've never once changed the wheel on it. Browsing online recently showed that the whole thing has been discontinued and any available replacements are all NOS.

Typing that out made me feel like my grandpa talking about mules in the coal mines.

[Aussie2B]

Look, I really don't care one way or the other, but why exactly are people BUYING these games? They can be burned and played on any 3DO as it is, if you don't have an original copy. I recognize LRG releases are "collectible" and need to be sealed in most cases, so does it matter if they put a CD of Spice Girls in the case? LOL

That's the problem. LRG takes advantage of the fact that many people won't open the games, so they think no one will notice when they pull stuff like this. Nobody who received these CD-Rs knew they would be getting a CD-R. There are people who open and play LRG's releases and people who value having an "official", legal release. (I use quotes because LRG's rereleases of old games aren't licensed by the hardware manufacturers, but they are made with the involvement of the game's publisher.) In the case of Plumbers Don't Wear Ties, LRG's release was cheaper than buying the original secondhand these days.

[SparTonberry]

I have some affected Warner DVDs. I have the full Animaniacs set, was wondering why some discs were bad. The Goonies must've been an affected print (opened a sealed copy I've for a long time and hadn't gotten to watching), my local library has a copy of a different print run that still played. That Vacation/European Vacation was unfortunate, on my copy the side with the former was affected but the second was still readable. I have A Pup Named Scooby Doo bad as well.

[Niku-Sama]

https://youtu.be/NLE9bVMwz-c?si=IuD0he35Yge4Ho19

[Tron 2.0]

I have some affected Warner DVDs. I have the full Animaniacs set, was wondering why some discs were bad. The Goonies must've been an affected print (opened a sealed copy I've for a long time and hadn't gotten to watching), my local library has a copy of a different print run that still played. That Vacation/European Vacation was unfortunate, on my copy the side with the former was affected but the second was still readable. I have A Pup Named Scooby Doo bad as well.
I've watched a video on that by retroblasting it's rather mess up early 2000's to 2009 warner bros had a defective run of dvds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ovUB-OavE

[Gametrek]

I do not care what some insane person thinks about another insane person. What reason would he have to play "Inspector Butters" on what crap she was talking about. Everybody loves the "Harry Potter" game even people like me who do not care about the series at all. Saying there are no LGBT characters in a series is stupid, when we grew up loving series that literally discriminated in secrecy like "Startrek".
Anyhows we get this nonsense because LRG have to sell out to a big-wig company bowing to the insanity of micro-agressions. AKA loss of freedom of speech

[Tron 2.0]

There recent showcase i'm interested in a few such as the tomba remasters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G3umAZ-nvM&t=848s

[Tron 2.0]

I'm glad i didn't buy there physical release for shantae risky revolution anyways i was gonna wait on the port to consoles to begin with.
https://www.timeextension.com/news/2025/05/limited-run-and-retro-bit-under-fire-for-using-recycled-chips-in-shantae-advance

[Spartacus]

I'm glad i didn't buy there physical release for shantae risky revolution anyways i was gonna wait on the port to consoles to begin with.
https://www.timeextension.com/news/2025/05/limited-run-and-retro-bit-under-fire-for-using-recycled-chips-in-shantae-advance

It sold out. My copy arrived a few days ago. It looks good on my shelf. The controversy probably increased it's value. To those of you who did not get one, a heartfelt nah nah nana nah!
I would like to have this game on a PS5 disc as well. :)

[Tron 2.0]

It sold out. My copy arrived a few days ago. It looks good on my shelf. The controversy probably increased it's value. To those of you who did not get one, a heartfelt nah nah nana nah!
I would like to have this game on a PS5 disc as well. :)
Retrobit did the run but i guess LRG was being cheap and wanted recycle chips instead to save money.Wayforward stated last year shantae risky revolution would be ported to consoles.

Edit shantate risky revolution is coming to consoles this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxgdJVBDMhA

[Aussie2B]

I'm glad i didn't buy there physical release for shantae risky revolution anyways i was gonna wait on the port to consoles to begin with.
https://www.timeextension.com/news/2025/05/limited-run-and-retro-bit-under-fire-for-using-recycled-chips-in-shantae-advance

That's disappointing to hear, though not surprising either. I rarely buy from LRG anymore (partially because I was mostly only interested in their Vita releases but also because the things they've pulled over the years has basically destroyed any positive sentiment I once held for them), but I did buy this. Though I'm not unfamiliar with brand-new gaming items being gross on the inside. I once opened a PS2 controller right after getting it new, and it was full of tiny hairs, ugh.

[kupomogli]

Since most of the early Shantae or the latest Seven Sirens games are very unremarkable platformers I bought the first two LRG releases then passed on everything else. Nothing of value was lost unless I was hoping for these to become any sort of investment, but LRG is doing their best at making sure that's not a thing, rereleasing all the Game Boy games in their original formation and releasing everything on everything possible. We're doing nothing more than paying exorbitant prices, atleast those that are, on games that are getting less valuable by the day.

You could say LRG are used car salesman, but for video games. The second you get that shiny product in your hands, it loses 98% of the value.

[Tron 2.0]

That's disappointing to hear, though not surprising either. I rarely buy from LRG anymore (partially because I was mostly only interested in their Vita releases but also because the things they've pulled over the years has basically destroyed any positive sentiment I once held for them), but I did buy this. Though I'm not unfamiliar with brand-new gaming items being gross on the inside. I once opened a PS2 controller right after getting it new, and it was full of tiny hairs, ugh.
Just shows LRG can be very cheap by just paying for using recycled chips.I don't buy to much from LRG either and i will skip the collectors editions and just buy the regular edition instead.When it comes to cartridges release really LRG shouldn't bother at all and just leave it to retrobit there better at quality control.

[Tron 2.0]

The end is near for LRG?
https://www.timeextension.com/news/2026/01/limited-run-games-has-been-my-life-for-ten-years-josh-fairhurst-announces-hes-stepping-away

[Osirus]

Garbage pile of a company. Good riddance.

[Aussie2B]

They already canned the other co-founder some time ago, so I'm not surprised Fairhurst is leaving too, and I'm not really buying that it was fully his choice. I doubt it's gonna harm the company, unless Embracer wants to merge it into something else. As long as it keeps making money for Embracer, they'll milk it and cut as many corners and be as anti-consumer as they can get away with.

[Spartacus]

I have received every single game I've purchased from Limited Run Games. I have waited several years and received nothing for games I have purchased from other publishers. I have never attempted a Limited Run Games full set, but would not be surprised if I own more Limited Run Games than any other member here and I have no ill will towards Limited Run Games whatsoever. In fact, my Limited Run Game collection is something I am quite proud of.
I was putting my Switch games on a shelf the other day and decided to arrange them by publisher. I was shocked to see I had more Limited Run Switch games than I have Super Rare Switch games. Super Rare only publishes Switch games while Limited Run usually offers a choice of platforms. If I was going to be upset about anything, it would be that both of these publishers offered me no other alternative than to purchase a game on the most anemic console I own. Now that is a shame.