Limited Run Games (producing physical copies of digital games)

[Bojay1997]

Based on a quote from Doug the day before yesterday, this isn't true.



If they already had the initial pre planned print run, you think he would of said this? While I hope they do sell more than planned so they continue to do this on the bigger releases, is it fair to scrap the idea based on sales of a game that can be bought elsewhere? Why not test it out on a game that's actually exclusive to them. However, I do think it will hit it's goal, as I think Ys has a bigger niche audience than WonderBoy, being a classic RPG series that has been released regularly to this day, so fans of the genre like Johnny from Happy Console Gamer all the way up to people who never heard of the series until the PSP or Vita releases.

Incorrect. Here is what LRG tweeted earlier this week after the preorder plan was announced:

"We already have 7500 and 6500 copies of the game in manufacturing for PS4/Vita, respectively."

That tweet and the confirmation in later posts and tweets from Douglas basically threw gasoline on the small sh%$storm that touched off on the LRG forums about preorders because some people felt that it was a betrayal to essentially do a second pressing of the game to accommodate the preorders.

In any event, tomorrow will be very interesting.

[kupomogli]

Incorrect. Here is what LRG tweeted earlier this week after the preorder plan was announced:

"We already have 7500 and 6500 copies of the game in manufacturing for PS4/Vita, respectively."

That tweet and the confirmation in later posts and tweets from Douglas basically threw gasoline on the small sh%$storm that touched off on the LRG forums about preorders because some people felt that it was a betrayal to essentially do a second pressing of the game to accommodate the preorders.

In any event, tomorrow will be very interesting.

I stand corrected, I don't use Twitter and didn't see that tweet. I only saw what I quoted from the forum which didn't sound anything like that, what I quoted though also came from Doug only two days ago so honest mistake.

I personally don't think it's an issue though. They haven't started selling it, they decided they were going to do preorders for the game which may not have been enough, it's not like they've attempted to sell the game and then realized later on that they haven't printed enough. I don't get why people are acting like they've done anything wrong. This isn't what Square Enix did with Final Fantasy 15's collector's edition, announcing a number and then, oh, we didn't realize it would sell so well, we'll release another amount for people who missed it.

[Tron 2.0]

I haven't even gotten a tracking number yet. I hope I can just shoot them an e-mail and see whats up.
Often it takes time to ship all orders from LRG.That's how i see it at least.

[Aussie2B]

Ys Origin and Asdivine Hearts are up for sale! The bundles went really fast, but everything is still available individually, so you can still manually make whatever bundle you please. You also have a few minutes shy of 24 hours to order as many standard copies of Ys Origin as you please.

[Bojay1997]

Ys Origin and Asdivine Hearts are up for sale! The bundles went really fast, but everything is still available individually, so you can still manually make whatever bundle you please. You also have a few minutes shy of 24 hours to order as many standard copies of Ys Origin as you please.

This morning went super smooth and everyone seems generally happy about the preorder process. I really hope they surpass the 4500/3500 run on PS4 and Vita they already ordered as I would love for these kinds of preorders on high profile games that are ready for printing to become the norm going forward.

[megasdkirby]

Crap, I could not get a copy of Asdivine for Vita. Will they put up a second batch later tonight? What about the CE edition of Ys for PS4?

[Aussie2B]

Yep, the Ys CEs and Asdivine Hearts are being sold in the usual LRG fashion (two batches, one at 10am Eastern time and the other at 6pm Eastern time). For the CEs, they saved 1/3rd of the stock for the evening batch (so there are 1000 CEs for each platform left for then).

[mailman187666]

I got the PS4 standard version of Ys and Asdivine Hearts today. I liked the stress free ordering this Friday. Looking at their upcoming releases, I don't think I'll need to buy any more games until they release Cosmic Star Heroine. I e-mailed LRG about my Night Trap order and they said they will probably be shipping into early next week. Maybe I am just on the later end of the "to be shipped" list.

[megasdkirby]

Yep, the Ys CEs and Asdivine Hearts are being sold in the usual LRG fashion (two batches, one at 10am Eastern time and the other at 6pm Eastern time). For the CEs, they saved 1/3rd of the stock for the evening batch (so there are 1000 CEs for each platform left for then).

Phew, thanks.

I still have a shot for the Vita version of Asdivine. I may go for the CE edition of Ys for PS4. Not sure. If not, I will get the regular version since I got the CE Vita version.

Thanks for the heads up!

[kupomogli]

I didn't pull up the site to order until 5:02pm CST, didn't rush with the order and had no problem getting everything. No complaints this time around for people who wanted one but couldn't get one(aside from CE, but even if I wanted to get the Ys Collector's editions, they were still available after I finished check out.) So hopefully on all their bigger more hyped releases they do this.

[Tron 2.0]

Order the regular edition of Ys Origin for PS4 with ease.Even after i got my order in the collector edition was still in stock for a bit,before selling out.After this i'm done buying from LRG for awhile.I'm glad they went with a preorder this time i just hope Ys Origin release doesn't get delayed,like what happen with skullgirls.

[Gameguy]

This isn't what Square Enix did with Final Fantasy 15's collector's edition, announcing a number and then, oh, we didn't realize it would sell so well, we'll release another amount for people who missed it.
You mean the Watermelon Games business model. Good ol' Pier Solar.

[Cornelius]

Hey, since there are lots of physical release fans here, check out my post in Daily Deals about some PC games at Gamestop: https://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?175767-Axiom-Verge-Awesomenaughts-Nuclear-Throne-more-Steelbook-physical-PC-releases-5-at-Gamestop&p=2048068#post2048068

[Bojay1997]

Hey, since there are lots of physical release fans here, check out my post in Daily Deals about some PC games at Gamestop: https://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?175767-Axiom-Verge-Awesomenaughts-Nuclear-Throne-more-Steelbook-physical-PC-releases-5-at-Gamestop&p=2048068#post2048068

Probably would be quicker to tell people if they are still looking for the Indiebox steelbook games that were exclusive to Gamestop, they are now down to $5 each in store. Trying to find an ungutted copy will probably be impossible though.

[Cornelius]

Probably would be quicker to tell people if they are still looking for the Indiebox steelbook games that were exclusive to Gamestop, they are now down to $5 each in store. Trying to find an ungutted copy will probably be impossible though.

I must have been living in a cave, 'cause I was completely unfamiliar with this release. I linked to a separate post because people used to be pretty uptight about posts being in the proper place. Kinda just habit, I guess, since anymore there's so few here that it hardly matters.

Oh, and I bought all of them yesterday and today from the same store, and all were still shrinkwrapped. I haven't put in all the codes yet, but the three most often having problems all had good codes. Doing the rest shortly.

[kupomogli]

Only $5 now? May as well pick up Rogue Legacy, Axiom Verge, and Guacamelee! Super Turbo Championship Edition. Never going to play them as I usually don't play games on PC that I have access elsewhere, but Rogue Legacy will atleast be a physical version now. Hopefully I can get a physical version on the PS4.

If a Vita version is released of Rogue Legacy haven't decided but I'll probably ignore it. It's technically both a good and bad port, being that the game doesn't have any frame drops and runs well, but all the text within the game is so small that it's nearly 100% illegible. This image below is much larger than the Vita and you da** near can't make out what any of it says, and the text is pretty important as you'll need this information to know what defects the character will have.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/13/may/rogue6.jpg

[megasdkirby]

So no games on LRG this week? Next week? For an entire MONTH? I hope so!

[Bojay1997]

So no games on LRG this week? Next week? For an entire MONTH? I hope so!

Next release date is September 15th although the variant of Shadow Warrior 2 may drop on a Monday before then.

[Aussie2B]

September is supposed to be very slow. I believe they'll be switching over to having ESRB ratings on all their releases, so that's adding to the delay. Last I heard, September will have 2 releases, both PS4, probably sold on the same day. I'll be a nice break for me since I stick almost exclusively to the Vita releases now. I still haven't even cracked open my Oceanhorn and Plague Road yet, and I'm eager to receive Ys Origin and Asdivine Hearts.

In other news, another LRG copycat is hitting the scene soon. They're called Strictly Limited Games.

[megasdkirby]

Next release date is September 15th although the variant of Shadow Warrior 2 may drop on a Monday before then.

Thanks! They helps quite a bit economically. Dunno if I will get the Shadow Warrior 2 variant as I already have the SRG version. Loved the extras, like the scroll and pouch.

[kupomogli]

How is this for a production company name?

Limited Games Running Out.

[mailman187666]

I just got my Night Trap order in today. I started getting a little worried, but it's finally here. It will go well with my old 32x copy from when I was a kid.

[Aussie2B]

LRG's pricing model continues to be annoyingly inconsistent. They recently announced Caladrius Blaze for PS4, and despite that they claim to have a "digital price point + $10" policy, with a maximum of $60 that they pulled out of their asses to justify the uneven handling of the DariusBurst price points, Caladrius Blaze is mysteriously matching its $30 PSN price point. I'm certainly not going to argue that it's a bad thing for it to be $10 less than what everyone expected, but it begs the question why other titles that are $30 or more on PSN did receive the usual +$10, like Ray Gigant and the Vita version of DariusBurst.

[Koa Zo]

Caladrius Blaze is mysteriously matching its $30 PSN price point. I'm certainly not going to argue that it's a bad thing for it to be $10 less than what everyone expected, but it begs the question why other titles that are $30 or more on PSN did receive the usual +$10, like Ray Gigant and the Vita version of DariusBurst.
It may be because an English language physical disc version of Caladrius Blaze has been available for well over a year or two. So a large portion of the shoot'em-up PS4 fan base has already purchased this one - it's not a premium item like Darius Burst etc. Or the licensing fees are much less since Caladrius Blaze is from a small developer.
Who knows?!

[kupomogli]

Yeah, like Koa Zo stated, Caladrius Blaze has been out a long time, and you can get it less than $30 right now at Play-Asia. It's clear that LRG knew of the Asian release with this pricing announcement, but they've went after yet another game that already has an English print rather than something new. With this price matching the other distributors/publishers, it also goes to prove that LRG can price the games better than they have been, they just want a far bigger premium on each release.

[Aussie2B]

That just raises another confusing matter since I remember LRG saying they weren't interested in releasing games that already had an Asian English physical release. With games like Ys Origin and Wonder Boy, they said they signed for them before they knew they'd also get an English physical release elsewhere, but if Caladrius Blaze has been available for a long time, I wonder why they decided to pick it up.

[kupomogli]

https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8IuCM-L5Um4/hqdefault.jpg

[Aussie2B]

Almost slipped my mind since I'm not buying (and sorry for not posting a reminder about Shadow Warrior 2), but Caladrius Blaze and The Flame in the Flood just had their first batches put up for sale. Good luck to those buying. :)

[mailman187666]

I was partially interested in Caladrius Blaze, but it slipped my mind when it went on sale. I think I'm just going to pass on these releases since I just picked up Ys VIII and also have the new Metroid I want to pick up as well.

[Koa Zo]

Although I already have the Korean (English) version of Caladrius Blaze, I like the idea of a color manual and art booklet so I picked up the LRG release at 10am. First batch sold out in ~4 minutes I think.
It was tempting to buy two copies since shoot'em-ups always seem to appreciate in value quite well. But really the extra $30 is better in my pocket than spent today in hopes of making a handful of dollars months from now.

[Tron 2.0]

I never bought,pa release of caladrius blaze so i went ahead with the LRG one instead.I just put a order in for the first batch and it wasn't a problem at all.I'm surprise it did sell out since shooters are a niche for the u.s market.

[megasdkirby]

So what are the next games and when will they be available?

[Aussie2B]

The PAX variant of the PS4 version of Ys Origin will go up sometime this month. That should be it for September. Windjammers is planned for October, but I'm not sure if anything else has been narrowed down to next month. I'm hoping we'll finally see Rabi-Ribi soon, considering it already came out in Europe.

[kupomogli]

So what are the next games and when will they be available?

Windjammers next month, I'm also going to say Rabi-Ribi probably.

[Bojay1997]

The PAX variant of the PS4 version of Ys Origin will go up sometime this month. That should be it for September. Windjammers is planned for October, but I'm not sure if anything else has been narrowed down to next month. I'm hoping we'll finally see Rabi-Ribi soon, considering it already came out in Europe.

Salt and Sanctuary may still be October although the ESRB thing really threw everything off. I think they have only had two games approved since the new process went into place so October may end up being another light month.

[megasdkirby]

Thanks for the information guys. Another hurricane looms and it may be weeks before I can try for another release. At least I have some time. Thanks everyone!

[Koa Zo]

Does anyone know what the status of the physical version of Sundered is?
I can't find any updated info about it online.

[Bojay1997]

Does anyone know what the status of the physical version of Sundered is?
I can't find any updated info about it online.

It's gonna be a while. The developer took from mid-August through the second week of September as a vacation and this is what they said in late July before they left -

"As stated elsewhere, the physical collector's edition will await the release of all DLC for the project before being finalized, so that the physical edition can be "definitive". So no specific date for the moment - stay tuned!".

[Koa Zo]

It's gonna be a while. The developer took from mid-August through the second week of September as a vacation and this is what they said in late July before they left -

"As stated elsewhere, the physical collector's edition will await the release of all DLC for the project before being finalized, so that the physical edition can be "definitive". So no specific date for the moment - stay tuned!".
Ah cool. Thanks.
I almost forgot I backed it, then the other week I was like "wait, wasn't there that PS4 game?... "

[kupomogli]

Absolute Drift, yet another game that they're expecting people to pay their bs pricing on on an already bs priced game. More like absolute sh*t. I'm exaggerating as clearly a game that people can enjoy, but for $25? Even the PSN price of $12 is pretty damn steep for a game that's budget as hell for an already budget genre. Mantis Burn is $15 for the same kind of game that actually has some effort put into it. I wouldn't purchase Mantis Burn, but I also wouldn't complain about LRG releasing more bottom of the barrel trash if they got that instead.

[Koa Zo]

Oh well. Don't buy it.
What's your problem?

[Aussie2B]

Everybody already knows at this point that LRG has a $25 minimum, as anything else would produce profits so small as to not be worthwhile. It's not the 90s anymore, when budget PS1 games could have an MSRP of $10 or $15. Pretty much any physical console or handheld release has a $20+ MSRP these days, no matter how low-budget the game is, because manufacturing costs don't magically get lessened just because the game is crappy or low-budget.

I'm not buying Absolute Drift. Also see no reason to complain about it. I'm glad for the people who are happy to have the opportunity to buy it physically. I'm also glad to have a little bit of a break from LRG spending. I'm excited to buy Windjammers on Vita next month, and that's good enough for me for now.

[Aussie2B]

For those who want to fight over the remaining 700 or so PAX variant copies of Ys Origin for PS4, they'll be up this Monday, October 2nd, at noon Eastern time.

Apparently they had plans to do a Vita variant too, but the ESRB business killed it (killed the other variant they were planning to do for Night Trap too). So there's one positive out of the whole ESRB mess, haha.

[Aussie2B]

Another heads up: The Ys Origin PAX variant sale time has been moved to 5pm Eastern today.

[Aussie2B]

For anyone who missed Broken Age, LRG passed their leftovers along to Fangamer: https://www.fangamer.com/products/broken-age-for-ps4-and-ps-vita

Now for me to go back to twiddling my thumbs until Fangamer finally ships my Undertale CE, even though I made the cut for September shipment and they're supposedly sending the CEs out before the standard copies.

[mailman187666]

For anyone who missed Broken Age, LRG passed their leftovers along to Fangamer: https://www.fangamer.com/products/broken-age-for-ps4-and-ps-vita

Now for me to go back to twiddling my thumbs until Fangamer finally ships my Undertale CE, even though I made the cut for September shipment and they're supposedly sending the CEs out before the standard copies.

I bought a standard copy of Undertale for the first run and I haven't heard anything other than an e-mail saying it's going to ship in September but may run until October. If I hear anything else, I'll post it here. I also bought a collector's edition that isn't supposed to ship until December, since I missed the first wave.

[mailman187666]

I said I'd post about my undertale pre-order (although not LRG related). I just got my shipping confirmation e-mailed to me yesterday.

[Aussie2B]

Still nothing about my Undertale. Looking at their Twitter account the last couple days, it looks like Fangamer has been focusing on the PS4 CEs. At least I finally got a tracking number from LRG about my Ys Origin and Asdivine Hearts, but they've been in "pre-shipment" since the 9th. I hope LRG keeps their word for getting everything literally shipped by this weekend. I'm getting kinda annoyed with these "shipping confirmations" that aren't actual confirmation of shipping. Just because you've printed out a label and slapped it on a box doesn't mean anything if you're just gonna leave the box sitting in your warehouse for a week before actually handing it off to USPS or UPS or whatever.

Anyway, the first batch of Absolute Drift: Zen Edition and Chariot will be on sale in roughly 15 minutes. Windjammers has been delayed to November, so this may be it for October.

[megasdkirby]

Hopefully I have a job, internet, AND electricity for when the next batch is available.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

skipped the two games today. Not interested in either one. Hope I will be for the next batch!

[Aussie2B]

Took all eternity, but I finally got my Asdivine Hearts and Ys Origin LE today. I know I only have myself to blame for continuing to buy them, but LRG's LEs continue to be disappointing. But it's like each time they find a new way to disappoint me. This time, what immediately made a bad impression is the awful Engrish on the back of the LE box. It's not even like it's buried and hard to notice. It's large text, and there's nothing else on the back, outside of the background art that wraps around the whole box. They're still using those cheap, ugly brown cardboard trays too, and the solid black inner tray doesn't match the rest of the packaging. Another folded up poster, which just makes me wonder why they're not doing cloth posters if they have to be folded. That way the creases wouldn't be permanent. The art book is pretty nice contents-wise, but not only is it softcover, it's also really thin paper that's just stapled together, so it has the build quality of, say, a N64 manual.

[Aussie2B]

Lots of various LRG news coming out lately.

First off, Switch games are a go, but they won't start coming until 2018.

Crawl (PS4), Nex Machina (PS4), and La-Mulana EX (Vita) were all announced, with the latter two coming November 10th. November should be a much busier month in general compared to this month and last. They say they'll have at least two or three more Vita games alone in November (probably Windjammers, and maybe they're counting Vita Skullgirls shipping, which should hopefully start in November).

The developer of 2064: Read Only Memories announced that the game won't be coming to Vita, unfortunately, so this marks the first announced LRG release that's getting canned. Still getting a PS4 LRG release, though, with a whopping three cover variants, of 2064 copies each. Should be for sale before the end of the year. The developer is also porting the game to Switch (with enhancements), and that'll likely be released physically by LRG eventually too.

Va-11 Hall-a is releasing in November in Japan, and the US Vita release, including the LRG physical run, should occur around the same time. I'll be the largest print run LRG has ever done for a Vita game, and it'll also have a collector's edition (pleeeeaaaaase have higher quality standards). They'll have a vinyl of the soundtrack as well.

[Satoshi_Matrix]

Long live Vita!

I'm hoping there will be progress on Cosmic Star Heroine, Rabi-Ribi and Mercenary Kings on Vita soon. I've been wanting all three nearly from the beginning of LRG.

[megasdkirby]

Not having electricity is making me desperate...I could not go for the last batch of games and now a month later a new batch...and I still can't order them. I hate PR.

[kupomogli]

Housemarque is amazing, easily one of the best twin stick shooter devs. If there's one thing I can say I don't like about them it's that they like to put as many particle effects to everything as they possibly can which adds more on screen.

I'll be buying Nex Machina(and La Mulana,) hopefully after this release Dead Nation gets a release. I played a couple levels when the PS4 version was launched free on PS+ and unless it was updated later on, the armor in the game doesn't change your stats like it should(your movement, armor, and speed remain the same regardless what you equip.) Regardless, Dead Nation is an amazing game which I still think is their best release.

The ESRB announced River City Melee for the PS4 coming from LRG. Not only do I think the Kunio games are overrated garbage, this is yet another game that's been out for a very long time that LRG is releasing, and they keep saying that they're only going for games that haven't been released yet, and they keep releasing games that have been released again and again. What's next? Slain, etc? They really need to quit going after games that have not only been released but are still available to purchase as they're not ridiculously limited.

[Aussie2B]

At this point, I'm skeptical that Cosmic Star Heroine and Mercenary Kings will make it out in 2017, but Rabi-Ribi is finally coming to US PSN this week, so hopefully that's a sign that we'll see the LRG release in the near future.


The ESRB announced River City Melee for the PS4 coming from LRG. Not only do I think the Kunio games are overrated garbage, this is yet another game that's been out for a very long time that LRG is releasing, and they keep saying that they're only going for games that haven't been released yet, and they keep releasing games that have been released again and again. What's next? Slain, etc? They really need to quit going after games that have not only been released but are still available to purchase as they're not ridiculously limited.

I have no idea what you're going on about here because both the PC and PS4 releases of River City Melee came out this year digitally. How much more recent do you need them to be? LRG never claimed they'd only do games that weren't released period. In fact, they've said the exact opposite, that they won't release anything that isn't also available digitally. Their goal is to focus on games that have never been released physically, and that's been the case for the vast majority of their releases. And why are you complaining if you're going to buy La-Mulana, one of LRG's oldest releases thus far if you count previous releases of it?

Kunio-kun is a long-running, well-loved series, whether you like it or not. If you were capable of looking at things with a perspective that doesn't entirely revolve around your own tastes and wants, you'd comprehend why it's a smart and worthwhile pickup for LRG.

As for Slain, Signature Edition Games did the physical print run for that, and as far as I know, they have worldwide rights for the physical release (since they ship internationally just like LRG).

[Bojay1997]

At this point, I'm skeptical that Cosmic Star Heroine and Mercenary Kings will make it out in 2017, but Rabi-Ribi is finally coming to US PSN this week, so hopefully that's a sign that we'll see the LRG release in the near future.



I have no idea what you're going on about here because both the PC and PS4 releases of River City Melee came out this year digitally. How much more recent do you need them to be? LRG never claimed they'd only do games that weren't released period. In fact, they've said the exact opposite, that they won't release anything that isn't also available digitally. Their goal is to focus on games that have never been released physically, and that's been the case for the vast majority of their releases. And why are you complaining if you're going to buy La-Mulana, one of LRG's oldest releases thus far if you count previous releases of it?

Kunio-kun is a long-running, well-loved series, whether you like it or not. If you were capable of looking at things with a perspective that doesn't entirely revolve around your own tastes and wants, you'd comprehend why it's a smart and worthwhile pickup for LRG.

As for Slain, Signature Edition Games did the physical print run for that, and as far as I know, they have worldwide rights for the physical release (since they ship internationally just like LRG).

I think he's bitching about the fact that he probably already bought the Asian/English version that was released on PS4 disc and seemed to be carried by a number of online retailers and easily shipped to the US. Personally I'm not seeing the problem as it's not like this prevents LRG from releasing other games and if you already own it, you can just skip it when it goes on sale.

[Aussie2B]

Well, them's the breaks. If you prefer a US region release, then you wait for one or you replace whatever other regional version you have when and if the time comes. I know with some of these releases, LRG signed the deal before it was ever known that another region would have a physical release. But it doesn't matter either way to me. If no US physical release exists for a game, I'd like to see one. Doesn't matter to me if an Asian English release exists or a European release or whatever. In fact, I'd welcome a release of Slain through LRG or some other American publisher. The fact that Signature Edition Games releases are PEGI-rated is exactly why I haven't bought them. I already have a sizable collection of US Vita releases, enough to last me a very long time, so I don't need to spread myself thin going after all the European and Asian releases too, not unless it's something I'm just dying to play.

[kupomogli]

No I'm not bitching because I bought the Asian release, as I've said, I think the Kunio games are garbage beat em ups. The Battle Royale game devolves it even more by throwing a few characters in a giant square battlefield.

I'm not happy about it when Play-Asia releases the exact same game either, because it's yet another game that's already been released. However, whenever another dev does it, Doug goes on and on about how publishers need to stop releasing the same games, but then when LRG is called out for doing the same thing, the excuse is that they're trying to get in with the developers or trying to fill space with a game and state that they won't keep doing it. So if they're going to bitch about other publishers doing it and they state they'll stop releasing the same games other publishers did, then I think I have a right to talk crap about how hypocritical they're being. It's not my fault that LRG has bad PR because Doug decides to always state the first thing that comes to mind. EAS is just one publisher, but there's multiple other times that Doug started talking crap about another publisher because they got a publishing deal LRG really wanted but didn't get.

As a co-owner, Doug is speaking for a brand whenever he states anything. If he's going to make these comments then people are going to criticize their bullshit when they do the same thing.

Darius Burst was out for awhile, they then released the PS4 version and later released the Vita version. Caladrius Blaze was out for quite some time. River City Melee Battle Royale released March, not sure of the exact date, but seven months ago from right now, that's a pretty long time, might be eight months or later by the time LRG actually releases it. There are others, like Ys and Monster Boy were listed on Play-Asia months before LRG announced them, but these are ones that LRG already probably had some sort of deal with due to previous published games and also released around the same time as the Play-Asia version. The ones above though, released a good six months or longer after the fact.

[Bojay1997]

No I'm not bitching because I bought the Asian release, as I've said, I think the Kunio games are garbage beat em ups. The Battle Royale game devolves it even more by throwing a few characters in a giant square battlefield.

I'm not happy about it when Play-Asia releases the exact same game either, because it's yet another game that's already been released. However, whenever another dev does it, Doug goes on and on about how publishers need to stop releasing the same games, but then when LRG is called out for doing the same thing, the excuse is that they're trying to get in with the developers or trying to fill space with a game and state that they won't keep doing it. So if they're going to bitch about other publishers doing it and they state they'll stop releasing the same games other publishers did, then I think I have a right to talk crap about how hypocritical they're being. It's not my fault that LRG has bad PR because Doug decides to always state the first thing that comes to mind. EAS is just one publisher, but there's multiple other times that Doug started talking crap about another publisher because they got a publishing deal LRG really wanted but didn't get.

As a co-owner, Doug is speaking for a brand whenever he states anything. If he's going to make these comments then people are going to criticize their bullshit when they do the same thing.

Darius Burst was out for awhile, they then released the PS4 version and later released the Vita version. Caladrius Blaze was out for quite some time. River City Melee Battle Royale released March, not sure of the exact date, but seven months ago from right now, that's a pretty long time, might be eight months or later by the time LRG actually releases it. There are others, like Ys and Monster Boy were listed on Play-Asia months before LRG announced them, but these are ones that LRG already probably had some sort of deal with due to previous published games and also released around the same time as the Play-Asia version. The ones above though, released a good six months or longer after the fact.

In other words, you really had nothing of value to share in your previous post and won't bother supporting your original claim that they shouldn't be releasing games that have been released physically in other regions, but just wanted another excuse to bash LRG. Got it. Sad and disgusting all at once.

[kupomogli]

In other words, you really had nothing of value to share in your previous post and won't bother supporting your original claim that they shouldn't be releasing games that have been released physically in other regions, but just wanted another excuse to bash LRG. Got it. Sad and disgusting all at once.

No. I've stated in that very post my dis-satisfactory of them releasing the same games again. Just because I didn't buy the Asian release and think the Kunio games are garbage doesn't change that. The game is still being rereleased over seven months later instead of publishing another game that hasn't been released before.

At the same time I decided to point out how Doug likes to trash other publishers who aren't LRG and when LRG does the same thing they're surprised about the criticism. Rive released from Play-Asia, and Doug trashed them for it, I'm actually of the same opinion. I was of the same opinion before it was a LRG title when they released a title as an exclusive release that was available from another publisher on Amazon for cheaper. This is the LRG thread though, so whether it's interests or complaints, I'll put them in here.

You come to LRG defense an awful lot though. It's not like my complaints about the company are effecting you, but you act like a total douchebag when coming to their defense. If you'd like, since Doug does frequent the forums over at LRG, I can tell him I've got an acquaintance who'd like to blow him. Think of it, Bojay. You could tell all your LRG ass buddies that you blew Doug. As much as you come to LRG defense seems you're atleast interested, let me know. I know a lot of Nintendo fans would sure love to blow Miyamoto, and well, I have no way of helping them out, but atleast for this I could pass along the message.

[Bojay1997]

No. I've stated in that very post my dis-satisfactory of them releasing the same games again. Just because I didn't buy the Asian release and think the Kunio games are garbage doesn't change that. The game is still being rereleased over seven months later instead of publishing another game that hasn't been released before.

At the same time I decided to point out how Doug likes to trash other publishers who aren't LRG and when LRG does the same thing they're surprised about the criticism. Rive released from Play-Asia, and Doug trashed them for it, I'm actually of the same opinion. I was of the same opinion before it was a LRG title when they released a title as an exclusive release that was available from another publisher on Amazon for cheaper. This is the LRG thread though, so whether it's interests or complaints, I'll put them in here.

You come to LRG defense an awful lot though. It's not like my complaints about the company are effecting you, but you act like a total douchebag when coming to their defense. If you'd like, since Doug does frequent the forums over at LRG, I can tell him I've got an acquaintance who'd like to blow him. Think of it, Bojay. You could tell all your LRG ass buddies that you blew Doug. As much as you come to LRG defense seems you're atleast interested, let me know. I know a lot of Nintendo fans would sure love to blow Miyamoto, and well, I have no way of helping them out, but atleast for this I could pass along the message.

It's the "again" part that is erroneous. Just because something is released in another region doesn't mean it's not appropriate to release it physically in the US, especially now that they are putting ESRB ratings on the covers. Many collectors don't buy physical releases in English from other regions, but are more than happy to buy them when they are released in North America. Moreover, there is zero evidence that by releasing titles that may have already had a release elsewhere that it prevents LRG from releasing other titles. It literally has no impact either way.

As for Doug's complaints, most of them have been in connection with developers that weren't honest about who else they had licensed their games to within the same release window as LRG. As Doug has pointed out consistently, there is nothing in the LRG agreement that prevents a developer from doing a subsequent physical release in the LRG region once the title is released. It is, however, a problem if the developer is allowing Play Asia or other publishers to release the title before the LRG release as it hurts sales and Play Asia takes advantage of cheap printing and postage in China to undercut LRG's business model.

The fact that you are now engaged in homophobic slurs is not only deeply offensive, but something that I can't imagine the owner of this forum will tolerate. While I am happy to engage in an intelligent debate, you have clearly crossed the line here and anyone that would stoop to that level is clearly a disgusting human being and unworthy of further engagement on this or any other issue.

[Aussie2B]

I don't see the logic in being mad about a business owner saying something hypocritical if it doesn't affect you, the customer, in any shape or form. Don't like releases of games that have been released physically in some form before? Then don't buy them. It's really that simple. But these are not re-releases anyway. They're different releases for different regions. I mean, would you argue against a game being localized and released in the US if it already came out physically in Japan? What about the simple action games of the 80s and 90s that could be brought over without having to change any text? It would've been totally reasonable to expect kids back then to find a way to import them from Japan because why should the exact same thing get released again, right?

And in terms of legitimate re-releases, LRG has said from the very beginning that a game won't be released more than once through them. Meaning, you won't see two LRG-branded print runs of the same game on the same platform. LRG can't and won't stop the IP holders from producing releases through other publishers, which we saw early on when Eastasiasoft decided to do another physical print run of Soldner-X 2, except as an Asian release through Play-Asia. But the IP holder doesn't even have to make it for a different region. Eastasiasoft could've just as well used another American company to produce another US physical run of Soldner-X 2 had they wanted. They could do it a hundred times over, even. The only thing that won't happen is another run through LRG.

Anyway, today is the day the variant of Special Reserve Games's Absolver goes on sale on LRG's site. I believe they'll be sold in one single go, so whoever may want, be there at 12pm Eastern time sharp.

[Robocop2]

Do they ever sell anyting that isn't an RPG?

[Aussie2B]

Who, LRG? Most of their releases aren't RPGs.

[Robocop2]

Who, LRG? Most of their releases aren't RPGs.

Huh, I guess upon further inspection; you're right. It just looked like a lot of them were RPG's but I see now that is not the case. :embarrassed:

[Aussie2B]

Today Nex Machina (PS4) and La-Mulana EX (Vita) are up for sale, with both standard copies and collector's editions, and there's some Nex Machina merch too.

After not buying anything from LRG since August, I grabbed the La-Mulana EX CE, even though I'm already fully expecting to be disappointed in its value, haha. It's interesting to see the first batch of standard copies of La-Mulana EX sold out very fast, yet the CE is still lingering. Standard copies of Nex Machina were also going faster than its CE at first. I think we're finally starting to see the "backlash" (for lack of a better word) against LRG cranking out overpriced CEs that are pretty poor bang for their buck. I hope this, along with the complaints they've been getting all over, will prompt them to make some changes. I know they're already working to get trays that don't look like cheap junk ASAP, so that's one positive step. Though perhaps that's cancelled out by taking another step in the wrong direction by denying standard copies of La-Mulana EX a physical instruction manual in order to give more value to the CE.

[Koa Zo]

I think we're finally starting to see the "backlash" (for lack of a better word) against LRG cranking out overpriced CEs that are pretty poor bang for their buck. I hope this, along with the complaints they've been getting all over, will prompt them to make some changes. I know they're already working to get trays that don't look like cheap junk ASAP, so that's one positive step. Though perhaps that's cancelled out by taking another step in the wrong direction by denying standard copies of La-Mulana EX a physical instruction manual in order to give more value to the CE.
The three CE sets on offer today aren't anywhere near selling out even now almost 2 hours of availability.

It is notable that I didn't get reminder emails from LRG like I did for all their other releases. On Monday I did get an email announcing the sale of these releases, but I didn't get the typical reminder emails yesterday and none today, and I actually forgot about these this morning.
Then at 6:00 I made the rash decision to buy two copies of Nex Machina thinking that it is going to be an in demand title (and maybe I could make $10-20 off of it)~ though now, apparently anyone that wants it already got it, as there are still plenty available through LRG.

[kupomogli]

La Mulana sold out in a few minutes this morning and around five minutes later today. It actually took me five minutes before I purchased mine because I was trying to find out where to find the code so I could buy Night Trap. I don't like the game, but it's one that's holding its value so might as well keep it as a collector piece. Couldn't find the code and then my password for Paypal wouldn't work, so in a rush with my credit card I messed up several times. Man. Did not go well, but I still came out with both games. I'll try and purchase Night Crap tomorrow and then send a message asking if they can combine my orders.

[megasdkirby]

I'm happy that my best friend was able to picke up the games today. But yikes, the CE editions were horrid expensive and lackluster. So I told him to pick up the standard copies of Mulana and the other game. Now it's to pay him back...

[Tron 2.0]

I wasn't interested in there latest releases so i pass on it.I'll probably wait on wind jammers instead if and when they have it to sell.Also,got my copy of skullgirls from LRG finally what came as extras for it i'm satisfy with.

[Aussie2B]

Windjammers will be up for sale on December 1 (along with Claire). Next week will be Crawl and 2064: Read Only Memories. Nothing confirmed for November 24 at the moment.

I'm glad to see all but standard editions of La-Mulana EX still available this morning so that people can buy at their relative leisure. Though it definitely shows that they screwed up with their ratio of standard versus CE copies of La-Mulana. I hate the idea of people being "forced" to pay more and buy the CE, just because it's all that's left, when they'd prefer to buy the standard version. It's similar to the situation with the high demand for Wonder Boy and the low demand for LawBreakers, where people were buying the bundle of both just because that was the only way to get Wonder Boy at that point. In my opinion, CEs should always sell out before standard copies (ideally, BOTH available for the whole weekend).

[Cornelius]

La Mulana sold out in a few minutes this morning and around five minutes later today. It actually took me five minutes before I purchased mine because I was trying to find out where to find the code so I could buy Night Trap. I don't like the game, but it's one that's holding its value so might as well keep it as a collector piece. Couldn't find the code and then my password for Paypal wouldn't work, so in a rush with my credit card I messed up several times. Man. Did not go well, but I still came out with both games. I'll try and purchase Night Crap tomorrow and then send a message asking if they can combine my orders.

Consider me a LRG noob... What's this code to buy Night Trap? Some loyalty program or something?

[Aussie2B]

Night Trap sold out ridiculously fast, so they created a waiting list for people who missed out to possibly get a shot to order one later on after they had already finished replacing copies that got lost/damaged in the mail with whatever stock was remaining. It's too late to get on it, unfortunately.

[megasdkirby]

Wait... Skullgirls was released? My order still says "unfulfilled"