Playstation Rarity List (UPDATE 9/28/04)

[kevincure]

Hey,

I updated the rarities and prices on my NTSC-U Playstation rarity guide, plus converted the entire guide to database format. It's in .pdf at http://people.bu.edu/cure/playstation.pdf. If possible, don't distribute the list, since it's more for us collectors than anything.

The list covers all 1278 (!) traditional Playstation releases, price, rarity (in C, U, R, ER format), greatest hits, longbox, collector's edition, "Top 50 PSX games" based on gamerankings.com compiled review scores, alternate cover art and interesting pack-ins (like the 3d glasses with Heart of Darkness). I also listed out the Lightspan titles that I've come across, as well as the "Box Sets" released so far.

For a true guide, with commentary, developer, foreign releases and the works, you'll have to wait for the guide that QoF is ably putting together here at DP. In the meantime, the guide I created lists 40 or so titles that haven't made it into the DP guide yet, plus more current rarities and prices in many cases, as well as the latest games that have gone GH.

The guide should be accurate in every way, down to the last colon on a subtitle or a "Disney" vs. "Disney's". If you notice anything even the smallest bit wrong, post here or PM me and I'll make sure to throw in an update. If any rarities seem strikingly off to you, let me know of those two.

This guide is based on real-world data plus 18 months of ebay tracking. While prices do swing wildly in rare cases, the rarities and nearly all prices should be quite accurate.

There are a few areas I'm still not clear on, many of which we need to figure out for the DP guide as well - Is there a "Banditos" version of Toy Story 2? Are there "WTC" and "no-WTC" versions of Spiderman 2? Is there a Spawn: the Eternal "chrome" cover variant? I'm also curious about the "Fighter's Edge" cover variants - I've listed a few games that have both regular covers and "Fighter's Edge" covers in their jewel case release. Are there any others that fit this pattern? Finally, I'm almost certain there are two or three more Lightspan titles - do you own any that I'm missing?

Thanks, peace,
Cure

[briskbc]

Spiderman 2 WTC variation. I wanted to get this sorted out over the holidays but I overestimated the time I had. I have the the WTC issue. The walkthrough at gamefaqs points out some of the differences.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/spider_man_2_a.txt

I can at the very least confirm the title of the last level on my version is On Top of the World. It takes place on the top of 2 very tall buildings that are very similar to the WTC.

From the walkthrough

Table O' Contents:

1: Comments
2: How To Play
3: Frequently Asked Questions
4: Training levels
5: Walkthrough:
A: Enter The Web-head
B: Burglary Interrupted
C: Rooftops By Night
D: Warehouse 66
E: Spidey Vs. Shocker
F: Smoke Screen
G: Hangar 18
H: Wind Tunnel (ver. 1 title: Crash Flight)
I: To Catch A Thief
J: In Darkest Night
K: Heart Of Darkness
L: Catch That Train
M: Gangland
N: Spidey Vs. Hammerhead
O: Spidey In The Machine
P: Mission: Spidey
Q: The Corkscrew (ver. 1 title: Downward Spiral)
R: Spidey Vs. Lizard
S: The Gauntlet (ver. 1 title: Aces High)
T: Spidey Vs. Sandman Again
U: Konichi-wa, Spider-san
V: Rock Of Ages
W: Spidey Vs. Electro
X: The Best Laid Plans (ver. 1 title: Top Of The World)


*****************************************

I've done my best to note changes between the original version of
Spider-Man 2 (the pre-Sept. 11th version) and the version most widely
available (the post-Sept. 11th version). There may be some minor
details missing, but the only major change in any of the levels is in
the final level (the Twin Towers are now a pair of buildings joined by
a bridge). Everything else WILL work for you. For the record, the
version I used to write this FAQ is version 2.

There are probably other references made but I didn't read the whole thing.

[bargora]

I'm psyched to see the list, but I'm gettin' the good ol' 404 on your link just now.

[oesiii]

I'm psyched to see the list, but I'm gettin' the good ol' 404 on your link just now.


There's an extra period at the end of the link, I opened the link in another window and then just deleted the '.' and reloaded. Got it fine then.

Thanks for the list! I'm through my Sega CD and 3DO phases, now I'm in my Saturn phase so the PSX is next on the gaming front. I have tons of games but I never really got into too many PSX games except GT2 and DDR so your lists will be very helpful this year :D

[Dangerboy]

Sweet, I've been waiting for this. I updated my "till the end of the line" list with the target games you had told me about, now I can use this to compare notes.

And there is a Chrome Spawn, as well as normal white cover one. As for cover variants, I started an excel file on that, haven't gotten back to it yet.

Jason

[kevincure]

Thanks for the info. Dangerboy, could you post any cover variations you've noted that aren't already listed? I've noted quite a few of them, but I'm sure I'm missing at least a few.

[Dangerboy]

This is the one I started for the Long Box varients, some LC variants at the bottom...hasn't been worked on in forever.

http://www.game-rave.com/gametitle/index.html

[Classicgamesdepot]

Very helpful list, was looking forword to an updated guide, thanks!

[Dangerboy]

Hey Kev,

I got a jump on updating my collection need list, and came across some additions to your guide:

------- Games:
- "Blockids" By Natsume $9.99, only ever seen 2, was at Coconuts. I have one.

------- Values

- "Bass Rising" in box with controller complete goes for $75 on the average on Ebay. If it's sealed add about $20.

I'm going methodically and in alphabetical order, so I'll help out as much as I can. ^^

Those aside, frigging awesome guide/list. This is *exacttly* the type of list I was looking for. I *hate* having the descriptions, designers etc. Just gimmie the list and the rarity!

[SoulBlazer]

I've always wanted to know how many games were released for each system. But at about 1300 titles, that makes the PlayStation library third biggest behind the 2600 and Nintendo 8-bit, does'nt it?

[briskbc]

I've always wanted to know how many games were released for each system. But at about 1300 titles, that makes the PlayStation library third biggest behind the 2600 and Nintendo 8-bit, does'nt it?

Go to the Rarity Lists section and check out section three. The bonus section has a handy PDF graph with the number of games for each system. It doesn't include imports.

[portnoyd]

I've always wanted to know how many games were released for each system. But at about 1300 titles, that makes the PlayStation library third biggest behind the 2600 and Nintendo 8-bit, does'nt it?

No, it actually takes the prize. The lists page has a handy chart, and PSX beats NES by about 500 (as well as SNES and Genesis by about that amount), and 2600 by 700-800. I only think C64, if you count EVERYTHING, can beat it.

1st: PSX
2nd: NES
3rd: SNES/Genesis

Or am I missing a system in there?

dabe

[Qixmaster]

congrats cure.... list will come in VERY handy :D

[orrimarrko]

I've always wanted to know how many games were released for each system. But at about 1300 titles, that makes the PlayStation library third biggest behind the 2600 and Nintendo 8-bit, does'nt it?

No, it actually takes the prize. The lists page has a handy chart, and PSX beats NES by about 500 (as well as SNES and Genesis by about that amount), and 2600 by 700-800. I only think C64, if you count EVERYTHING, can beat it.

1st: PSX
2nd: NES
3rd: SNES/Genesis

Or am I missing a system in there?

dabe

Well Dabe, (interesting spelling you have there!)

You are correct.

For clarification, #3 belongs to SNES, by a mere 17 titles.

Collecting for PSX sounds like having multiple, consecutive root canals.

AAAHHH!

Good luck!

[kevincure]

Thanks for the call on Blockids - I just missed that one when I transferred the text list to Access. I have it listed as R/7 if you want to add it to your own list. The Star Wars Episode I cover variation is also now noted, as the Spawn variation.

You mean "Bass Landing" on the controller package right? I don't think Bass Rise was sold packaged.

From your website list: Street Fighter Alpha and Darkstalkers are listed as Fighters Edge. As far as I know, the longboxes of these are traditional covers, while the jewel cases are ALL fighter's edge covers. Do these games have jewel case versions without the Fighter's Edge, like Street Fighter Alpha 2 does? What do you mean by "lenticular" cover variations? What exactly is the WWF ITH variation? Lastly, do you have a photo you can grab of the BAT, Spyro 2 and Crash Team variations?

I'll go through the Longbox titles and add the ones also available in jewel case soon.

Perhaps it might be useful to list games that came with an extra demo disc/music disc in its normal release. If you see something like that (I know there are quite a few, none of which are noted) let me know and I"ll add it in.

[orrimarrko]

Kev,

Great job.

I would like to make one suggestion.

While you may already be intending on expanding your rarity scale, I would suggest that you consider it.

At present, there are only four ratings (C, U, R, ER), which makes it very hard to distinguish between some of the titles out there.

For example:

Batman Forever: The Arcade Game, Brain Dead 13, and Dragon Ball GT: Final Bout all share a rarity rating of ER. This is the same rating as the Lightspan games, which I would suggest are far rarer.

Perhaps a fifth (at least) designation is needed. I don't agree that Goal Storm or Psychic Detective are examples of the hardest titles to find for the system. Just my opinion.

Also, I forgot to ask. Are the prices based on complete games (case, inserts, disc, manual, etc.)?

Thanks - keep up the great work!

Steve

[Dangerboy]

Hey Kev,

...

I *swear* to god I typed Bass Landing when I wrote that. O_O

a. Darkstalkers I know for sure has a Non FE cover. SF Alpha, I'm not so sure about.

b. Lenticular is the term used for those nifty pictures that have a plastic coating on them, and when you tilt the picture, it changes/animates. The listed games had both lenticular inserts that went in front of the regular manual, and in JP's case, the actual jewel case was molded with the plastic coating shape so that the regular manual (with the ever so subtle printing trick) would have the same effect.

If you've ever opened a brand new Rygar or Dead or Alive: Xtreme Beach Volleyball, they had them inside the case. See also Gold Edition of Majora's Mask cartridge/Zelda Boxes.

c. The WWF....oh! Pay no attention to that...I was starting to keep track of insert / back cover variations, but then came back to my sanity.

d. WIll try and grab the pics ASAP....need to find them in the stacks first, and if I have them. BAT "NFR" I know I don't have, but have seen it several times at my local Game Crazy.

e. As for the extra rating idea, I've always wanted a slightly more honest one that includes the ratings of "Obscure" and "In Demand". Some games just aren't rare, it's just that they're all taken up.

Breakfast and work call.

[SoulBlazer]

So PSX has the largest library now, huh? And they are STILL releasing games for it, and probaly will at least till Christmas! :D

Someday, someone is going to assemble a complete collection and I'd offer my first born to meet that person and see it. LOL

[kevincure]

I think my rating system is along those lines, Jason. Like Final Fantasy Origins, for instance. Hugely common, despite the costs. I do know what you mean, though; Mario 64, for instance, is amazingly hard to find for a game that sold five million copies. One more question for now - for those lenticular covered games, are any of them available without the lenticular cover? I've only seen those three games in the lenticular style.

Orrimarrko, I think the DP guide will have the expanded rarity scale you're looking for. I chose to use only four ratings because I want the list to be accurate rather than comprehensive. That is, from tracking ebay sales and my own extensive local buying, I have a decent idea what games are common, uncommon, rare and really hard to find. In order to break the scale down further and still be accurate, I think I'd want a much larger sample size, which is what DP's guide goes for by having multiple inputs. That said, my sample isn't huge, so if you and a few others agree that these games shouldn't be ER (which it's possible they shouldn't be), just let me know and I'll update the ratings. PS: The prices are based on complete games with discs in good condition. There's no excuse for games being incomplete on a CD system.

As for Goal Storm and Pyschic Detective, those are right on the border of R/ER. I've seen Goal Storm once and Pyschic Detective never. A quick check online seems to confirm the rarity: There has been one, disc-only copy of Goal Storm sold in the last 3 weeks, and there are three copies available on half.com. Psychic Detective has had three sold on ebay the last three weeks (more than normal), and there is one available on half.com. As for Lightspan, I think we might be overestimating their rarity. Assume that each school with Lightspan gets 30 packages of discs (probably a low estimate) and that 200 schools used Lightspan (also, I think, fairly low). That would give you 6000 copies of each of these games. Now, they're not seen in the wild now, and may become quite rare as schools simply throw them out down the line, but they're not *tremendously* rare.

[dave2236]

Heres the correct like to help some of you out


http://people.bu.edu/cure/playstation.pdf


Very, nice. Great work.

[D_N_G]

Maybe I just missed it, but there are 2 different RC helicopter games, the one you have listed titled RC Helicopter: Remote Control Simulation, and another titled RC STunt Copter

[kevincure]

It's under R/C Stunt Copter, the first one in the R's.

[Jasoco]

Pretty cool!

Question. Is the Playstation done with? Is there any chance of any new licensed games coming out for it? I kinda hate having to keep downloading a listing every time a new game comes out.

I'm already through the meat of my Sega CD and Saturn phases. While I still go after them, I've really gotten into the PSX lately. Only a month and a half ago I had no PSX. Now after only 3 trips, I have over 60 games.

[Dangerboy]

So PSX has the largest library now, huh? And they are STILL releasing games for it, and probaly will at least till Christmas! :D

Someday, someone is going to assemble a complete collection and I'd offer my first born to meet that person and see it. LOL

If Kevin's list includes the to-be-released games, then I only need about 80 or so more and have the whole US library. You can see the shelf of games near the bottom of my snap shots at:

http://www.game-rave.com/features/room/index.html

Keep your first born, I'll just post huge pictures : )

Jason

[Jestr]

That is exactly the guide that I lacked the talent to do :D
Great job Kevin!

[kevincure]

This guide only lists games that have been released already, and there are certainly quite a few more games coming for the PSX. I could name five coming in the next couple months alone! As for companies, XS, Mud Duck, NewKidCo and Sony are all still making games, and there may be others. I would think that the PSX should start dying for good this summer; it will have been *9* years since release in September.

If you're waiting to print, give us a few more days; I'm taking in some of the suggestious here, plus I've added a few more cover variations, added notes when a game is available both in longbox and in jewel case, and noted games that came packaged with additional demo CD's, like Ridge Racer Type 4.

Jason, on your list of Longbox/Jewel Case games, I couldn't confirm the following as non-GH jewel case releases:
bat 2
doom
johnny bazookatone
jumping flash
mortal kombat 3
nba live 96
nba shootout
nfl gameday
nhl faceoff
rayman
return fire
ridge racer
tekken
wipeout

If you own any of those in non-GH jewels, let me know and I'll throw it in the list, otherwise I'll keep looking and try to confirm them.

Finally, a question at large: Triple Play 98. I had this listed as LB because everyone else seems to, but I'm pretty convinced now that it wasn't a longbox release. Anyone to prove me wrong?

[Dangerboy]

Off the top of my head:

bat 2 - Not sure
doom - Not sure
johnny bazookatone - Yes NON GH
jumping flash - ?
mortal kombat 3 - No GH at all, but I SWEAR I saw a JC a long time ago.
nba live 96 - Double Jewel Case, No GH (that I am aware of)
nba shootout - ?
nfl gameday - ?
nhl faceoff - ?
rayman - YES GH, YES Non GH
return fire - YES Non GH, Was a Doube Jewel Case
ridge racer - Hm....dunno
tekken - ?
wipeout - Yes Non GH, and GH

And 98 has no long box that I am aware of.

[Dangerboy]

http://www.game-rave.com/images/crash.jpg

That's the Shiny CTR on the right, next to the original. Hope that helps.

[Jasoco]

http://www.game-rave.com/images/crash.jpg

That's the Shiny CTR on the right, next to the original. Hope that helps.Damn! That means I gotta buy both! :roll:

[Dangerboy]

Also, Kevin, if possible, could you keep track of what new games (not variations) you added to your list after the initial posting? I already printed it up and started crossing of games. Don't want to start all over again ^_^;;

[kevincure]

Yup, no problem. Blockids is the only one, but I've added quite a few variations. I'll post the newer list in a few days once I have the last changes made.

[kevincure]

One more Q: Thanks for the CTR pick, I've noted that. Do the lenticular covers you've noted for Spyro: RR, Spyro: YotD and Crash 3 also come in regular? Or is it like Fur Fighters on DC where the lenticular cover is attached to the top of all the jewel cases and, if not there, had simply been removed?

[Qixmaster]

Finally, a question at large: Triple Play 98. I had this listed as LB because everyone else seems to, but I'm pretty convinced now that it wasn't a longbox release. Anyone to prove me wrong?

hey kev, ask tyler, i KNOW he had this game when him and I were in middle school as I went over and played it, and i remeber he had a ton of long box games... i think the first jewel case game he ever got was jet moto 1 or 2 i can't remember. I bet he would know...

-Josh

[Dangerboy]

Both Spyro's were Chromium (Foil Covers like CTR and Spawn). The Lenticular covers were in two variants: Slip Sheet, and Cover Mold.

Jurassic Park: Lost World and Skull Monkeys have the Cover Mold Version, where the manual is printed with the trick and the cover itself has the Lenticular mold. If One is seperated from the other, you'll have a weird cover, or a bizarre looking manual.

The Two Crash games were slip covers: Pieces of Cardboard that went inbetween the manual and the jewel case. You could remove the Slip Sheet and still have a full fledged manual (with normal cover) and never know the difference.

Also of note, from working on the list earlier:

- Extreme Pinball did have a Long Box version, no mention of it in the guide.

- Contra: Legacy of War had two different printing formats. The original was double jewel case, with the 3D Glasses. The second, later printing was single jewel case without the 3D Glasses. You can tell if a DOuble JC has been hacked into a single JC version by way of the Spine Writing. The Double has "Contra" and "legacy of War" on opposite spines, while the Jewel Case had the whole title.

I've seen a couple of single JC's with just the bottom part of the DJC on there. Collector's beware!

Jason

[kevincure]

Cool, thanks for the info. I think I wasn't clear on the Spyro question (this applies for Spyro 2, Spyro 3, Crash 3, Skullmonkeys and Lost World): do they come in BOTH a lenticular/chrome version and a non-chrome/lenticular version (like Spawn) or are they only in the lenticular/chrome version?

I also added Timeless Jade Trade to the Lightspan list. Now 82 Lightspan games; I think I have everything, though I've heard there are Math on the Move Add/Sub and Mult/Div Intermediate, and all I have listed are

Math on the Move Add/Sub
Math on the Move Mult/Div
" " Add/Sub Advanced
" " Mult/Div Advanced

[Jasoco]

Damn. My Lost World is the "Greatest Hits" version so it's a plain paper manual.. I guess. Oh well. Stupid Money-Saving-Ideas.

[briskbc]

I don't want to sound picky. This is just a heads up but I think you mixed up the descriptions of Lunar and Lunar 2.

Great job on the list. :)

[PapaStu]

Ahhhhhhhh finally i found the board..........
I was turned on here by DangEr Boy (theres no E in the GameFAQS Dangrboy but ill get useto fixing it here LoL)
Being the #3 active PSOne game hunter on GameFAQS ive stumbled into a few things that your utterly amazing list is missing (shock of shocks cause this it freaking complete) You do my Anality justice.....

Armored Core : There are 2 and possibly 3 cover variations of the game... Sony released the game originally, and then Agetec RE-released the game when they pushed AC2 for the PS2... When that happened i coulda sworn that there was a version with a starburst printed on it (think yellow burst saying relreleased) and then in a GameStop yesterday (with your list in hand) i did confirm that there was another version of the game (this should be #3) Just released by Agetec as the only cover difference (well that and the fact that it now has a SLUS# instead of a SCUS#) everything else at least on the front and back covers was the same... (though i forgot to check the UPC codes).

Syphon Filter 3: I was in a GameStop about a year ago and i saw a different cover showing the hero and it had a background with the american flag.... Ive only seen it once, and what the exact pose was, i cant recall, however there is a variation, of that im sure ( i remember thinking long about buying it, but didnt because of price).

Dance Dance Revolution: This was released by Konami with a Dance Pad and game bundled together for either 49 or 59 when it was retail.

Do we care about Disc art variations as well?? The Tetris Plus GH versions have Disc Art that mirrors the logo on sed manual.... and saying that, doesnt the disc art go to black/white (or some other lite color like a lavender) for most all the Fighters Edge games if there is a variant "regular" cover.....

On a side note, the Alternate covers (ie Spyro and Crash) those are just Lenticular card inserts..... not actually part of the manual, and the Crossed sabre's for SW: Jedi Power Battles is just a card insert..... I dont know if that matters....

here's a question, My Lost World, The: Jurassic Park has a lenticular jewel case (to give the cover a 3d apperance) and its the original release, did later releases before the GH version come out without that option, and the same goes for Skull Monkies... was there a second release for that game too without the 3D capabilities of the cover?

[kevincure]

Hey Papastu, thanks for the help.

I do know of the "Just Re-releaesed" in a starburst with the AgeTec logo and original Sony Armored Core covers, but I've never seen a third variation. Do you have a pic or can you confirm/describe that in person?

As for Syphon 3, half.com and a few other places use that exact cover variation, but I've *never* seen it in person on an actual manual, so I think the one you saw might be a printout (like the chains sometimes do with lost covers - like the "Gran Turismo 2000" I saw at Gamestop the other day. Are you sure that was the actual manual? Can anyone else here confirm the variation?

DDR - yep, got that. I'm actually wondering about two other pack-ins and want to know if you seen them: Reel Fishing II w/ rod and lethal enforcers w/ pack-in gun. Ever see these?

On the lenticular covers and SW Jedi variation - these games were released *without* the lenticular, right?

For disc variations, I note them when there are disc variations but not cover variations. If the disc variation only matches the cover variation, I left it out. If you know of any variations in the first category that are missing, please post them!

As for Lost World and Skullmonkeys, as far as I know, they were only in that lentic/chrome cover. We've confirmed Spawn and Crash Team Racing with both lentic and normal, and also believe Spyro 2, Spyro 3, Crash 2, Crash Warped have both. If you see them in another manner, please let me know.

I don't know if you collect demos, but if you could run through the demos at the end of the list and see if we're missing any, that would be greatly appreciated.

[PapaStu]

OK, im gonna clear up these cover issues as best as physically possible.....
take into account that there are regular "paper" versions of all of these besides the alternate versions

:::Paper add-ins::::
SW:Jedi Power Battles

:::Chromium Covers:::
Spawn: The Eternal

:::Foil Covers:::
Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage
CTR (Crash Team Racing)

::::Lenticular add in:::
Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Crash 2
Crash 3

:::Lenticular as part of case::::: (i dont know about regular paper versions of these)
SkullMonkeys
Lost World Jurassic Park

In regards to Syphon Filter 3: I can confirm, it looked as real as real, it didnt look like one of those lame color scan replacements... but like i said it was a year ago

I can confirm the 3rd Armored Core variant then.... Go grab your regular Sony produced Armored Core (the one with the SCUS# 94182 number) The Agetec version is EXACTLY the same EXCEPT for the logo in the front now says Agetec instead of Sony... the back insert is verbatum to the original one, the ad on the inside of the manual is differnt too (hell ill go pick one up today and give you the details a little later)

Ive seen a Reel Fishing II bundle before in the stores... (Circuit City 2 years? ago) i dont remember much about it, cause i wasnt crazy hunting games then...but i do remember one.... I ve seen a pic of the Lethal Enforcers box in what was someones collection, but ive never seen one in person (It had to come that way, cause the game is only compatable with The Enforcer gun... not a Guncon)

Im not a big Demo person, (i use to throw them away) but ill give it a whirl... i can show that to someone who probably does know and ill see what he says...

[Dangerboy]

The Syphon FIlter alternate cover (The one with the flag, etc) was never produced. The inserts on the case were promotional inserts companies sent to stores to use before the game comes out. We get them all the time for the DVD cases, sometimes the exact final insert, barcode and all. Considering the Game was released 2 months after September 11th (almost to the day) I'm sure Sony wanted to avoid any and all possible controversies. See also Spider-Man PSX re-release censoring and MGS2 PS2 censoring.

It's possible someone used the promtional inserts to 'complete' a game. I've done it with N64 games and the cardboard display boxes. If it was a "New" game, than that was quite possibly the only one. Ever.

The Lethal Enforcers was never packaged with the Justifier. The Justifier *did* advertise LE, Area 51, Die Hard, and one other game on its box though. The Japanese version did have Project Horned Owl (the original PSX Light gun game) packaged with the Gun, however.

I don't think the Reel Fishing II rod package was an actual SLUS style release (like Bass Landing was)...I'm pretty sure that was a third party accessory company deal with it. Interact did a similar job with DC Sega Marine Fishing and their DC rod.

Jason

[PapaStu]

your probably right about the Reel Fishing 2 Dangerboy...... sounds like something that CC could do...

The Syphon Filter "probable" insert looked real, and all... (yeah the Half.com one is what i remember for it) but it was long enough ago as well that i dont remember if it had one of those Ratings Pending ratings on it and that would be the dead giveaway to legitmacy.... But i do remember that it did have printing on both sides and everything (and i remember that the instruction manual was the same as the regular SF3) oh well, just something for me to keep an eye out for... ill drop it until i can actually prove otherwise....

temporarily out of money, so i didnt pick up Armored Core today, ill try and get it in the next few days...

marked my games off on your list... makes me feel like the almost 400 games that ive got are actually 15....

[Dangerboy]

400? Dude, you're a 1/3 way home! Be proud! not many people can make that claim!

Also, note that even the 'coming soon' inserts will sometimes be the real retail version and have the full ratings/sku's etc. In fact, Microsoft goes to far as to even shrinkwrap the empty display cases, with the real insert in the case. When I first opened the shipment box, I thought we had been screwed out of games!

Also, I don't know if I mentioned in in the other forums, but I realized something very sad and pathetic once I hit the 100% complete mark in the PSX library:

I will be one of the few, if only people who could catalog the entire list of "Created monsters" for the Monster Rancher games. :puppydogeyes:

Resume fetal position on floor...so cold...

[PapaStu]

We all have to much time on our hands..... you can read about my recent gain and loss of Mortal Kombat Trilogy yesterday over on the FAQS board...... im not a happy camper.... Anyways im currently sitting at 394 games, and for my anniversary i hope to pull something sweet out of the air for PSOne game 400..... Im thinking about making Monster Rancher Card Battle 2 my new 395...

Yeah confirmed yet again there are 3 Armored Core covers... i didnt buy it yesterday, cause they were charging 29 for a new one at the EB i was at....I forgot to ask about seeing the game to see if the disc art was different... any other stuff i should be looking for in the hunt besides the "built In Lenticular covers?" or any other possible flashy covers for the games???? What about the Working Designs covers for freaking almost everything except the boxed collections, were they flashy only????? Or did they release a different unshiny cover to mess with us as much as they did different Disc Art.....

Il'll be moving, so i might not have my computer up for the next day or so, but ill be back online as soon as the computer gods let me be.....

[Dangerboy]

Working Designs usually only makes one print run (excluding Lunar: Fan Edition), so their foil/chromium/really freaking shiny covers are the only versions that exist. Their too busy dropping CD cover variants into the printer to care about alternate covers.

Speaking of which, they seem to have disappeared off the radar.

Jason
picked up Jigsaw...Madness? Too lazy to check name LOL

[kevincure]

Jigsaw Madness is the one.

Playstation Guide UPDATED 2/4/04. It should now include:
All current PSX NTSC U releases, rarities, prices, greatest hits, longbox, collector's editions, multi-disc notes, longbox also available as jewel case notes, double jewel case notes, alternate cover notes, official packages (w/ light guns, dance mats, etc.), lightspan titles and box sets.

I have also added any known "pack-ins" related to the game, such as demo discs, maps, memory card stickers, posters, etc.. I am sure there are more of these not yet noted, so please let me know if you know of any missing. I also added in a list of known demo discs; I have 231 listed, but there are certainly more than I am missing, so let me know on these too.

This should be all I'll have on this list. The DP Guide list will have all the publisher, developer and game content info that you're looking for, but this should work while we wait for it to be finished.

Peace,
Kevin

[PapaStu]

now im all curious about these lightspan titles, where is there anyplace that has them, minus raiding ebay for them individually???? Do i need to break into some school and steal their poor PSOne games, i dont know if i could live with myself if i do that.... LoL

Kevin: Did you ever compare your prices and rarity listings to the ones here on digitalpress??? cause i downloaded that pdf too, and its prices seemed a little more standard as to what ive seen, cause honestly i dont see all that many 3 buck games in the wild, though the ones i have been seeing that are quirky ive been snatchin up for some strange reason......just a thought..... their list seems moderatly complete as is urs and wouldnt be a bad cross reference as to what you've compiled, cause more data never hurts......

[Dangerboy]

Lightspan Games are only really available to Schools and Libraries. I tried e-mailing the company to purchase them directly and got shot down faster than Val Kilmer at a Batman convention. Ocasionally you'll get people selling the box sets on eBay as well, but those go for some chunks of change.

Time to find a teacher / librarian friend...

Jason

[kevincure]

I'm pretty sure you can buy Lightspan direct; just claim you're a home school parent and were thinking about getting Lightspan for a group of home school kids in the area. The box sets on ebay tend to go for like 4-5 bucks a game, which isn't bad at all compared to the 5-10 bucks they sell for individually.

Papastu, my list was originally made because I sell on ebay, so the prices should reflect lower end ebay prices. With a system like Playstation, I think ebay gives a truer market price than the wild because most used PSX games are sold by two companies (EB and Software Etc.) that use their market power to extract higher prices (nothing nefarious about it; it simply means that they're willing to let a game like "Off World Interceptor Extreme" sit on the shelf for a year at 10 bucks waiting for a customer rather than try to move it quickly at the 2 bucks that is the market equilibrium). I think you have a tough time, independently, selling a game for more than the prices in my list.

Also, most of the 1-2 dollar games listed are sports/racing games, which I see in the wild relatively regularly at the price. The PSX is strange in the the wild is sometimes more expensive than the internet - the best way to build up a quick PSX collection is to buy some of the big lots of commons on ebay.

[PapaStu]

Too true..... (about them buck sports titles) of which i wont really add them to my collection... i just cant bring myself to do it

I Think ill have my teacher mother try and contact lightspan to snag me a cool 83 games hEh....

Now that i think about it, your right about most of those titles, not pulling a huge value anymore.... except from some crazy suckers....of which i can be included... So do you actually collect too, or is this soley for ebay.....

Whens ur new update out?

Does anyone remember a variant version of Tiny Tank? Now that i just picked up a copy i coulda sworn that there was a lenticular version or something... anyone else remember anything??

[Johnny]

Wipeout had 2 different covers on the long box release.

The first one is this:

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/8007/p/619433_5691624223879039563_vl.jpg

That was the initial release of Wip3out in the US. Initial sales were slow though and the marketing dept decided to "revamp" the box with an image considered "more appealing" to the US consumer and the box image you see next was created.

http://www.commercecanyon.com/sites/59042/images/13203_1_i.jpg

For awhile it was simply a slipcover that went over the original box and when the original run of boxes were used up, then boxes with the new art printed directly were made.

[orrimarrko]

As far as Spyro, Spyro 2 and Spyro 3 go, it seems as though there may be some doubts about what covers were available.

I bought these new, the week that they originally came out (my wife loves them), so I know that they're legit.

Spyro - no foil/chrome at all

Spyro 2 - foil/chrome manual

Spyro 3 - no foil/chrome at all

Hope this helps.

Steve

[l_lamb]

Kevin,

Here are the demo/kiosk discs that I have that I didn't see listed:

Interactive Sampler Disc Vol. 11 SCUS-94463

Playstation Demo Disc (no version # or date) SCUS-94483
In slipsleeve with 14 demos copyright 1999

Playstation Demo Disc (no version # or date) SCUS-94497
Shrinkwrapped on plain card copyright 1999

Playstation Demo Disc version 1.15 SCUS-94619
In slipsleeve with 10 demos, 4 videos copyright 2000

X-Men Mutant Academy SLUS-81223
Plain slipsleeve with a printed label; disc says "SAMPLE DISC ONLY NOT FOR RESALE" and has official logo and NTSC U/C

Gran Turismo 2 Demo - not for resale SCUS-94493
In plain window-style slipsleeve

Crash Team Racing SCUS-94459 copyright 1999
(disc only)

[kevincure]

Thanks for the help guys, changes noted. Does anyone have a photo of the Wipeout cover variation (the non-grey one) that's not simply the slip cover variation (that is, printed on the box)? I've seen the gray box and the slipcover, but haven't seen that third variation.

[Dangerboy]

Hey Guys,

This should go in the other forum but I thought I'd celebrate here:

Picked up Army Men: World War - Team Assault and DDR Konamimix tonight.

DDR is my official 1200th US PSX Game ROFL

We're at the 73 to go mark! Yay!

[Johnny]

Hey Guys,

This should go in the other forum but I thought I'd celebrate here:

Picked up Army Men: World War - Team Assault and DDR Konamimix tonight.

DDR is my official 1200th US PSX Game ROFL

We're at the 73 to go mark! Yay!

Damn. i'm happy with 55 PS games ( Including JAP and European ) X_x
Still a long way to go for me :P

[PapaStu]

Board went kinda dead, but i think that i just found a new variation for your lists....
A Bugs Life now has 3 releases..
the original SCUS 94288
The GH release ( i dont know if its a SCUS or SLUS)
the Take 2 Interactive release SLUS 01538 as a NON GH title the Disc art is the same as the original release just with Take 2's info

[Dangerboy]

I remember spotting Take 2's logo on something else that wasn't theirs...

ugh...

Jason

[kevincure]

Bug's life verified and noted. Take 2's site didn't list it or any other non-Take2 games, but let me know if you notice any.

[PapaStu]

Reading the advertisment on the back of the manual it appears that they are also going to be Re-releasing Tarzan....Though last i checked it was published by Disney Interactive... and this was an ad for Take2...

Has anyone seen the new Disney Collectors Edition 3 pack? I forgot to check to see who was responsible for the republishing of it... Maybe Take2 did that one too...

[kevincure]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3078012995&category=3719 - Tarzan also had the Take2 reprint.

[Johnny]

Any news on the rarity lists. I can't wait to see it finished and print it =D

What you guys think? I think PS1 will stop being supported after this year E3.

[PapaStu]

Major support is all but gone for the system, however the really small publishers are now into the groove, cause well its so cheap to push a game... XS, Take2 Interactive, and a few others are still pushing crud out... and they will till the PSOne officially goes out of production, which hasnt happened yet.

[Johnny]

Well, any news on a newer "version" of the .pdf file?

www.ebgames.com has these games on their Coming Soon Releases:

Dates shown are ship dates

CT Special Forces 3/15
CT Special Forces 2 3/15
MLB 2005 3/16
Cat in the Hat 3/16

As new releases it has:

Qix Neo

www.walmart.com has other games not listed like:

- Robo-Pit 2
- Neopets: The Darkest Faerie

Check those sites. Might have some missing stuff of the rarity list

[kevincure]

Hey Johnny,

I do have an updated pdf, but I need to get my webspace expanded so I have enough room to post it. We've added a lot more cover variations, I think we've got all the Lightspan titles and alternate packagings. I'm 99.9% we have every game that came out, though, and I've run through the rarity and pricing quite a few times, so it should be fairly accurate.

As for the titles you mention, I think Robo Pit 2 has been released, but I'm waiting until I see proof before including it. Neopets is defiinitely not released yet.

[Johnny]

Well depending on how big the file is, i can host it on my shitty geocities site LOL

Anyway, for you guys are easy to see if the games are released or not. Here in Brazil game stores are now only selling PS2, XBOX, Gamecube, so i can't help much on the PS1. So i try to check the websites to find some new stuff. All the games i buy are used (mint) in brazilian message boards/stores or by ebay.

I'm really looking forward to a complete Playstation Game List, when the support for it comes to an end.

PS: By the way, there are some Lightspan discs at ebay, worth checking out since there's even a demonstration disc

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2 F&krd=1&from=R8&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=Lightspan

[PapaStu]

I'm attempting to go the official route ot get the Lightspan stuff, Im waiting on the catalog from LS to see the cost and all that good stuff. A few days ago someone jumped and snatched like 30 or so LS titles all from the same seller for like 5 apiece... i was gonna go after them. but im wating on this list from them.

Havnt checked out the Alternate covers that youve got published, does that mean i cant download the pdf right now Kevin? NM just tried to Dl it, and can see that its not on the site....

Did you get the Alternate cover to Bubsy 3D? The Gold X Award Version? Its a true variant, in the fact that the Disc color is a little different (it went from a Solid Blue,to a Shiny Blue) and the font and sizing are different and a quote on the back of the cover is completely different..
Damn i need a digital camera.....

[Dangerboy]

*runs to his collection and checks...*

Yay! I have the variant Bubsy...now I need to find the original one?! :eek 2:

Ugh.

Jason

[kevincure]

Yup, I have both the Bubsy variation and the Lightspan demonstration disc. I should have the pdf back up on my site relatively soon.

Man, did ebay fuck up the category searches in videogames or what? It's damn impossible to find what you're looking for anymore. What were they thinking?

[PapaStu]

I havn't noticed, because i usually search out a title specifically. Though i can say that im happy that they went back to the older home page, instead of that 1. Search 2. Bid 3. whatever, thing (or at least thats how it appears now on my Mac Browser)

So should i start going after all the variant covers? as well as the Long/jewel case variants? Ive got a couple of each, wondering how indepth i should collect for this thing. Im also thinking hard about a GH collection, and trying to compile those too. Thoughts, rude comments, pleads for sanity???

[EndlessChris]

My friend's dad used to work for lightspan, so I managed to get a good amount of lightspan games from him for free, all in this little holding box thingy. Maybe you can add some of these titles to your list (I couldn't access the pdf so if they're already on there, sorry)

Mars Moose Stay & Play 1: In The Clubhouse
Mars Moose Stay & Play 2: In Mars' Bedroom
Mars Moose Stay & Play 3: In Lonnie's Classroom
Mars Moose Cosmic Quest 1: City Sights
Mars Moose Cosmic Quest 2: Fairy Tale Island
Mars Moose Cosmic Quest 3: Race Through France
Mars Moose WalkAbout 1: The Natural History Museum
Mars Moose WalkAbout 2: The Shakespeare Festival
Mars Moose WalkAbout 3: World Sports Day

The Secret of Googol - Reshaping Googol: The Submarine
The Secret of Googol - Reshaping Googol: The Tower
The Secret of Googol - Reshaping Googol: Castle
The Secret of Googol - Reshaping Googol: Under the Ocean
The Secret of Googol - The Googol Counting Fair: Midways
The Secret of Googol - The Googol Counting Fair: Corral and Fun House
The Secret of Googol - Googolfest: Party Isle and Toy Isle
The Secret of Googol - Googolfest: Arcade Isle and Moon Feast Isle
The Secret of Googol - Eggs All Around: Egg Trek and Balloon Picnic

Liquid Books 1: Lety's Favorite Stories
Liquid Books 2: Amrita's Trees and Cerdito and the Coyote
Liquid Books 3: Far-Fetched Frontier Tales
Liquid Books 4: The Adventures of Adelita and Bo

Creative Camp
Creative Isle
Cali's Geo Tools
Faire Games: Mathematics

Not a bad deal for free, eh?

[kevincure]

Chris,

Not a bad haul for free. I already have all of those titles listed, but thanks for the help!

[spooie]

You'll have to excuse me, the first link in the thread for me is dead for me. I checked the DP rarity guide for PSX, and can't find Qix Neo on there. It was supposed to come out way back in Q2 of 2003, but only finally was released around Christmas. I haven't seen it in stores, but places like Amazon.com and Buy.com have carried it.

Also, speaking of the "Fighter's Edge" versions of Capcom's games. Again, forgive me if I've missed anything, but there is an alternate Fighter's Edge version of "Star Gladiator" available. I've got both versions here. The FE editon has a cropped version of the original cover, only the image is flipped around for some reason. And both of the back covers have a different layout, design and text.

On a side note... I too have a copy of Blockids. Picked it up at CompUSA last year for $10. They had one copy in stock. Haven't seen it since.

[PapaStu]

I should have the pdf back up on my site relatively soon.


Spooie: DP hasnt updayed their lists in a while because of the soon to be compiled DP8 guide with the inclusion of PSOne and other late systems. Joe needs to have some reason to make the general public want to buy it over the DP7. I've seen Qix Neo all over the stores GameStops and EB, and it should run you 9 bucks New. To my knowledge the only Variant to Star Gladiator is the FE version ( though i need to find an extra regular edition, because the one that i got recently has a bad instruction manual.) Also, Kevins list does include the FE variations...

[spooie]

Oh well. Thanks for the info.

I saw this was posted... I'm also curious about the "Fighter's Edge" cover variants - I've listed a few games that have both regular covers and "Fighter's Edge" covers in their jewel case release. Are there any others that fit this pattern? ... so figured I should mention it anyway.

;)