Playstation Rarity List (UPDATE 9/28/04)

[PapaStu]

Well I know that i'm slowly slowly slowly working on the PS2 listings (at least for myself and maybe later for this site??? I dont know yet, we'll see wherer things go later). At the moment, im just basing the list off of my aquired games so its only about 300 titles big.

If theres things that you need to know about, you can post em here, as I'm pretty ontop of the PS2 stuff. Most of the demo's arnt worth but a buck or two, and thats sealed.

[BoosTDIt]

I don't know of any threads like that yet. There's really no sense talking about rarity on PS2 games this early in the game - we're still only just getting a handle on PS1 rarity!

Perhaps you missunderstood me....i said and meant ...a thread that is KEEPING TRACK of the so far released Titles/Demos....just what's out there...not rare or anything like that


Later gang

[DigitalSpace]

Man, I was at my local Best Buy last night and forgot to check if FIFA 2005 was there. It's likely it was.

I've also seen a good amount of Madden 2005 at... well, I can't remember whether it was Target or Best Buy. Probably both.

I'm going to have to do an "all Playstation day" where I play nothing but PSX titles soon, in honor of the final release.

[hydr0x]

FIFA 2005 was released this week over here too, we have 25 copies at our store, but, it's not the last PS release over here :o

there's ONE other game scheduled for this year:

Yeti Sports World Tour Part 1 - November 24th 2004

maybe even more next year, i couldn't check that in our db as (almost) no 2005 games have been added yet

if anyone wants to give a PAL Playstation list a shot, here's a list of ALL PSOne games the Media Markt Europe (biggest electronic chain over here) ever sold (some of these were not sold after all and cancelled, it's hard to tell which ones, sorry)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/janbaart/mm_small.xls

[davidleeroth]

I noticed the Yeti Sports games, too. Yeti Sports Deluxe should've been released 10th of September but I haven't seen it anywhere yet. I wonder what Part 1 consists of, I think there's seven "parts" available online as of now.

I hope they come up with *something* to take FIFA off the bright spot.

[hydr0x]

@david

yeah, i can't remember seeing the other Yeti game(s) anywhere yet, we didn't carry them (we had all those horrible Hugo games though LOL ), if someone wants one of those Yeti games i could order them any time, but you'd have to pay me in advance through paypal ;)

oh btw, a lot of the titles in "my" list that are in there twice are re-releases by AK Tronic.... the three games coming out before that Yeti game in november are also AK Tronic re-releases... gotta grab Striker 1945 II before they re-release it at 15 bucks, it's 10 right now...

[davidleeroth]

Do the AK Tronic releases differ from the original releases in any way?

Oh, and does 1.1.1901 mean there's was no specific release date given before the game actually hit the shelves?

[hydr0x]

Do the AK Tronic releases differ from the original releases in any way?


i'm not an PS expert at all (actually i do only own a dozen ps games), but i would say: no, i would need one of the games that were re-released in it's original release form though to confirm that, i do not own any re-released games nor any AK Tronic re-releases



Oh, and does 1.1.1901 mean there's was no specific release date given before the game actually hit the shelves?

ah, yeah, the release dates ;)

1) afaik the db system MM uses was changed somewhere in 1996, so anything released before that date (check the first real date) has the 1.1.1901 date, that's a pitty when it comes to ps games, i know :(

2) release dates are not accurate all the time, the MM db has the following problem: as soon as a release date is added to the db it's not possible to change it after that, so basically and of those dates are the dates were a release SHOULD have happened, postponed games have wrong release dates :( almost all the later games should be correct though as the late ps games usually didn't get postponed

[The Manimal]

I saw the FIFA 2005 and it's $30....I'm going to try and snag it off eBay.

[Dangerboy]

Huge Update for the PlayStation Perfect Guide, with all links off the front page.

This update brings:
- pictures and exclusive information on the PlayStation Debug units, including the AC and DC variants of the US model

- Updated Lunar pics on the Variant Page. See the complete set of 'Collector's Edition' and 'Fan Edition' CDs and Box artwork

- Oh yeah, and this small little thing known as the only existing and working SNES/PLAYSTATION CD-ROM PROTOTYPE complete with pictures and mad monkey facts.

Special Thanks to Papastu for his Debug unit photo sessions. Special thanks to our trash bin ninjas for the SNES/PSX CD-Rom

You can start the carnage here:
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Off to work on some long box family photos,
Jason

[digitalpress]

Anxiously awaiting your first refresh of the DP PSX database! Your site looks great, please keep me in the loop :)

[Mayhem]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but aside from Dancing Stage, there is also Duelling Masters - Senpei Legends scheduled for release here in the UK at the end of next month. You can check it out via http://www.gameplay.co.uk and other stuff UK sites.

[Dangerboy]

Hey Joe,

Me and Stu worked out a schedule/sort of jobs list how each of us will work on the list. I'm waiting for my DP Guide: Advance before I start anything because it's too hard for me to keep track in the excel what needs to be done. For some reason I can't focus with all the excel gibberish.

I already have about 6 or 7 variant additions just from prior glancing at the guide at chi-town classic.

Oh..the plans we have...
<rubs hands together and laughs manaically>

Jason

[Dangerboy]

13 more Long box variants update, plus CTR shiny
http://www.game-rave.com/variant/index.html

I love days off,
Jason

[PapaStu]

Once again ive lost internet. But in the same time DB and I are beginning to work out a schedule of things and how they will appear. Work has been slightly hectic, and whatnot.

Ill keep you posted as to my full level of net activeness again once I am back up.

Also picked up the Spawn non chromium cover. another one to the list

[Dangerboy]

New updates! Game Rave dives deeper into the Fighter's Edge Variants and adds Street Fighter Alpha and Wipeout to the Long Box section.

http://www.game-rave.com/variant/index.html

3 updates in a month's time, I feel whiplash. LOL

First set of updates sent to PapaStu for the online DP guide, 2nd update gets the DB treatment starting tomorrow.

Taking the "Biggest PlayStation Fan" title to the farthest extremes. :evil:
Jason

[Dangerboy]

Making some progress, finally.

First, the start of hopefully what will be weekly-ish updates, in alphabetical order:
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/playstation_perfect_guide/releasedgames/index.html
FIrst up, the Bond games.

Secondly, I am currently working on, and may have taken in a step in cracking the PSRM number theory across the whole PSX Library, rather then just to the WD variants Stu and I have been working on.

Jason

[sharc]

hey, you guys are the best people around to ask this of...i have a copy of strider 2 with mislabeled cds. how common was this problem? does it mean this one is worth any more, or just that i'm stuck with something to grate on my need to organize my games?

-sharc

[mikeetler]

hey, you guys are the best people around to ask this of...i have a copy of strider 2 with mislabeled cds. how common was this problem? does it mean this one is worth any more, or just that i'm stuck with something to grate on my need to organize my games?

-sharc

The entire first run was mislabeled. I don't know if a second run was made, as I've never seen cooreclty labeled discs myself.

-Mike

[Dangerboy]

I believe the correction was never fixed, as Strider only had one print run. I recall getting that to review at GameShark, making the comment about the discs in my review, and then watching over the next two months as the game just faded away.

In fact, at least locally, I have yet to see that game again.

Hmm...nice controllable mini-hangover... :drinking:

Jason

[Dangerboy]

Huge update at the Rave, multiple games, lots of glossary stuff added.

http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Happy Turkey Day!
Jason

[tinsair]

FIFA 2005 was released this week over here too, we have 25 copies at our store, but, it's not the last PS release over here :o

there's ONE other game scheduled for this year:

Yeti Sports World Tour Part 1 - November 24th 2004

maybe even more next year, i couldn't check that in our db as (almost) no 2005 games have been added yet

if anyone wants to give a PAL Playstation list a shot, here's a list of ALL PSOne games the Media Markt Europe (biggest electronic chain over here) ever sold (some of these were not sold after all and cancelled, it's hard to tell which ones, sorry)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/janbaart/mm_small.xls

Is this that Yeti Sports game?

http://www.alcom.ch/pics/so2132v.jpg

[davidleeroth]

Is this that Yeti Sports game?

http://www.alcom.ch/pics/so2132v.jpg

That's the Deluxe version, it's available in certain online stores but I've yet to see Yeti Sports World Tour Part 1 on PS. It's a differrent game than Deluxe on PC atleast.

[tinsair]

Ah right, I was a bit confused @_@ but now I get it. All I keep getting when I was searching is Yeti Sports Deluxe and not the other one that's why I thought it was the same game.

Guess it's either coming out soon, or not at all.

[Dangerboy]

Updated:
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

"Sweeet.....like caaaandy...."

Jason

[kevincure]

Hey guys...OK, I'm down to *7* games which need developers:

Triple Play 97,98,99,2000
Tetris Plus
Sports Superbike 2
Viva Soccer

That's everything for the list once these are in. I *beg* for your help :-). Steve and Jason (and anyone else who wants one): I'll IM a copy over once I have these, as that will complete everything I plan on doing for the list.

Btw: Late December, I have some really cool PSX pics coming in - I'll show ya those when I get them.

[Keir]

The other day I was pleased to find Strikers 1945 at my local Gamestop. It was $12.99 which seemed like a lot but with the 10% discount and B2G1 free sale it was definitely worth it. When I got home I decided to check DP's rating and it said $6 / R3. That can't be right. I've spent a lot of time scouring Gamestop bins and this is the first time I've seen it. Just to make sure I wasn't mad I checked eBay and though there were several copies, the only one that sold for less than $20 was a BB stickered disc only and it was still a $9 BIN. Anyway, I know it's only 1 game out of 1200+ but it would be nice to see that fixed. Thanks!

[Dimitri]

PapaStu/Dangerboy:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but on your site you can add Tall: Infinity to the list of printing errors...one side of the back insert was printed upside-down. Dunno if there's a reprint with that fixed but every copy I've seen is like that. >_>

[PapaStu]

PapaStu/Dangerboy:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but on your site you can add Tall: Infinity to the list of printing errors...one side of the back insert was printed upside-down. Dunno if there's a reprint with that fixed but every copy I've seen is like that. >_>

At some point I noticed that one as well, I dont remember if it was in here or in one of my earlier GameFAQ's threads (which is long gone now). As Far as ive seen, ALL the copies of the game have the error in it, so in a sense does that make is as much of a printing error since it was a copy thing that was never corrected, or just a cool little piece of trivia (which is what it is more so IMO)

@ kevin, ive got a few of the games, ill see what i can get for ya

[davidleeroth]

Viva Soccer (I believe Viva Football in Europe) - Crimson
Tetris Plus - Jaleco
Sports Superbike 2 - Mud Duck
I think EA developed the PlayStation Triple Play Baseball games up to 2000, after which they gave it to Treyarch.

[kevincure]

Thanks man. Are you sure about the Sports Superbike 2? I'm 99% sure that Mud Duck doesn't have an in-house development team.

[PapaStu]

PapaStu/Dangerboy:

Not sure if this has been mentioned but on your site you can add Tall: Infinity to the list of printing errors...one side of the back insert was printed upside-down. Dunno if there's a reprint with that fixed but every copy I've seen is like that. >_>

At some point I noticed that one as well, I dont remember if it was in here or in one of my earlier GameFAQ's threads (which is long gone now). As Far as ive seen, ALL the copies of the game have the error in it, so in a sense does that make is as much of a printing error since it was a copy thing that was never corrected, or just a cool little piece of trivia (which is what it is more so IMO)

@ kevin, ive got a few of the games, ill see what i can get for ya

/me grabs shoe
/me inserts it into mouth

Thanks DB :D

http://www.game-rave.com/tall_inf.jpg

[nildem]

Hey guys...OK, I'm down to *7* games which need developers:

Triple Play 97,98,99,2000
Tetris Plus
Sports Superbike 2
Viva Soccer

That's everything for the list once these are in. I *beg* for your help :-). Steve and Jason (and anyone else who wants one): I'll IM a copy over once I have these, as that will complete everything I plan on doing for the list.

Btw: Late December, I have some really cool PSX pics coming in - I'll show ya those when I get them.


This is according to AllGame.com (http://www.allgame.com):

Triple Play 97, 98, 99, 2000 - EA Sports
Tetris Plus - Jaleco Ltd.
Sports Superbike 2 - Mere Mortals
Viva Soccer - Virgin Interactive Entertainment

[kevincure]

Thanks nildem. I occasionally use allgame.com to triple-check info, but I won't put anything on my list unless it's verified first-hand (i.e., from the developer's own website or someone has looked at the game credits). As an example, Virgin didn't develop Viva Soccer - Crimson did, as someone noted above.

[davidleeroth]

Thanks man. Are you sure about the Sports Superbike 2? I'm 99% sure that Mud Duck doesn't have an in-house development team.

The PAL version has Mud Duck listed as the developer (published by Midas). I can check it over again in the local supermarket if they still have a copy. Midas has listed development work under Mere Mortals too so it would sound strange (although entirely possible) that they didn't do that in this case.
I didn't see it listed on the Mere Mortals website either.

[kevincure]

Mud Duck is a US publisher similar to Midas that also doesn't develop games. Dangerboy threw a US copy in yesterday and it said "Midas Interactive presents a Mere Mortals production," so I suppose Mere Mortals must be it. I noticed too that MM doesn't list the title on their site, but perhaps this is because it was an early budget title of theirs? I tell you, figuring out the developer is not as easy as it might first appear.

In any case, the developer list is now complete. Thanks everyone for the help.

[davidleeroth]

I see. Congrats on the completion. :)

[kevincure]

Yup. Thanks again for your help!

[AtariBuff]

OK, who wants to help me build the Playstation Europe PAL rarity list ??? (rarity, value) ;)

[tinsair]

OK, who wants to help me build the Playstation Europe PAL rarity list ??? (rarity, value) ;)

I have been gathering a list for some time now but it only has the games name, it has not got any part numbers if you want the list to work on you can have it AtariBuff. :)

[AtariBuff]

@tinsair,
well, that would be a start :D

PM sent

[anagrama]

OK, who wants to help me build the Playstation Europe PAL rarity list ??? (rarity, value)

Egads! You must be insane! ;) Best of luck!!

[Dangerboy]

Itty Bitty update...off to take care of errands and chores =/
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html
Jason

[tinsair]

@tinsair,
well, that would be a start :D

PM sent

Ok thanx just sent you the list in email :)

[AtariBuff]

well, tinsair's list is a ***fantastic*** list to start with ("to start with" is really an insult as the list is compiled very carefully AFAICT. thanks for sharing :D i will combine the list with the information I already collected soon.

maybe someone can set me up with the proggy they use for the DPGuide.

if someone else is currently working at a Playstation PAL release list it would be great to work together and share information. also any valuable info regarding rarity/availability would be greatly appreciated.

@anagrama
yes, that i am :evil:

[tinsair]

Oh also AtariBuff here is a list of a few games that I have not seen but have been mentioned to me, I havent added them to the list as I do not know if they exist.

Here are the games :) :
Bass Landing
Brain Dead 13
Burning Road 2
Crazy Chase
Endorfun
Extreme Snowboarding
Flying Corps
Hello Kitty's Cube Frenzy
International Championship Soccer
Jewels Of The Oracle
Little Big Adventure 2: Twinsen's Story
Mech Robots
Plane Crazy
Pro Surfer
Sign Of The Sun
Supercross 2001
Superman 2000
Ultimate Brain Games
Zoop

PAL Import

A2 Racer (Holland)
Alarm Fur Cobra (German)
Medicopter 117 (German)

Maybe we should have a seperate thread for discussing PSX Pal games?

[AtariBuff]

thanks for the rumored games - yes, we need a seperate thread for PAL :D

[Dangerboy]

We're BACK BABY!
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Updates, news, and...Zzzzzzzzzz.........

[Dangerboy]

A small update with 4 Underground CDs exposed....

http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Every update it seems like this thing gets harder to update ^_^;;;

Jason

[Mayo]

http://people.bu.edu/cure/playstation.pdf.

Anyone have the new link for this list, this is not working. :/

[PapaStu]

Take the final "." out (after the pdf ) of the link and it should work. However I'm not sure which version Kevin still has up there right now.

[Dangerboy]

Game Rave's been updated. http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Check out the almost-complete dismantling of Sony's PSRM number sequence, and more added game pages, plus the complete list of Lightspan games and background history.

Jason

[Keir]

Thanks for the update! Just a couple comments on Kartia:

While it's correct on the main list, you've called it "World of Fate" on the entry page. Also, the description says "card combing" but I assume you mean "combining".

I know how anal retentive you guys are so I thought you might want to know. :P

[Dangerboy]

Hence why I hate spell check...thanks, I'll fix it asap :embarrassed:

I could just see card combing now....

"What have you guys made so far?"
"Nothing Sir."
"What about you guys?"
"Nope..."
"what about you guys?"
"We ain't combed shit!"

LOL

[digitalpress]

Don't forget your pal Joe, fellas. I have yet to receive an update for the online guide! :D

[Damaramu]

Take the final "." out (after the pdf ) of the link and it should work. However I'm not sure which version Kevin still has up there right now.

Ahh....that link is dead as of this posting. Yup, I took out the period as well.

[kevincure]

Yup, it's not up right now. I'm putting together that PSX book, and I'll post that once it's ready to go.

Dangerboy and Papastu - site still looking great. I didn't know the BB Kartia had a case variant (just thought it was released earlier than the other version) - I'll throw that on my list as well. Did you guys ever find out what the deal with World Cup 98: Rumbo (the Spanish version) was? I'll keep an eye out for an update on the Lightspan info.

Kev

[PapaStu]

DP: I know, im cracking on it. Promise. Getting a decent enough amount done to make it a worth while update.

@ kevin
I havnt seen anything new on it. It was possibly a latin edition of the game (as was previously speculated) or a made for the southwest (or high spanish population area like Chicago) kinda thing. We didnt know about the Kartia till very recently, we thought it was a print error at first. The PSRM was the give away.

[kevincure]

If it helps the research, the copy of Rumbo that I own was found in the wild in Oregon - it may have been bruoght up from Latin America (there are a number of seasonal farmers in the OR from Mexico) but I'd say the US SW release is more likely.

[Dangerboy]

Web page updated
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Check out our first ever upcoming product!

Jason

[Dangerboy]

Updated with some long box game pages, and little teaser about our first non-game related quest.

Jason

[yok-dfa]

I can't seem to find any info on this, but does anyone know if Animal Crossing (PAL) was released for the PSX?? I heard one of the second hand shops here in town has a copy. Would it be worth the effort in tracking it down?

[Dangerboy]

The only Animal Crossing I know of is the NIntendo product, which means it wouldn't be on the PlayStation.

[yok-dfa]

I thought it was pretty weird too. The person who told me is not really into videogames, so it could be he made a mistake. Anyway, i'll drive around town tomorrow and see if i can find it.

**EDIT:
Found the game he was talking about, but it was Harvest Moon :) Not sure if i'm going to pick it up though. It had a rather hefty pricetag (EUR 25,-)

Cheers,
Raymond

[vintagegamecrazy]

I was just looking up willliams arcade's greatest hits, and I have a long box version and i was looking on Ebay and there is also a jewel case version on there. The variants aren't listed in the guide.

[Buyatari]

Were are the protos?

Also there are 4 different debug units. The grey,blue,green and a rare PSOne version and don't foget about the midnite blue contest prize.

I also have a PS1 sent to the Cleveland School systems from Lightspan.

Adam

[Dangerboy]

Were are the protos?
As far as game rave is concerned, not bothering with them. Tracking down variants and other crap is mind numbing enough.


Also there are 4 different debug units. The grey,blue,green and a rare PSOne version and don't foget about the midnite blue contest prize.
The Grey was japan only. We're focusing GR on US side only. I don't recall the Sony engineer mentioning a PSone model. I beleieve the Green took care of that. Have pics?

We know about the Anniversary system. Waiting to get our hands on one.


I also have a PS1 sent to the Cleveland School systems from Lightspan.
Anything special about it? Was there a Lightspan memory card or anything included with it?

[kevincure]

The PSone debug was used in the US, as far as I know, but I think you might consider it a proto. As far as I know, there were less than 5 of them made. DB is right about the grey debug being Japan only. As far as I know, the LS PSX was exactly the same as an Off-the-shelf model, no special numbers of anything, but it might be worth checking out.

If someone wanted to list known protos, that would be great. There are literally 100s of PSX protos for unreleased games, many of them complete (i.e. Superman).

[Kid Ice]

Web page updated
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Check out our first ever upcoming product!

Jason

Being a casual PSX collector, I've checked up on this thread from time to time but tonight is the first time I checked out the site. I'm very impressed...I wish every console had a collector's site this thorough.

[hydr0x]

Web page updated
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Check out our first ever upcoming product!

Jason

Being a casual PSX collector, I've checked up on this thread from time to time but tonight is the first time I checked out the site. I'm very impressed...I wish every console had a collector's site this thorough.

give me the framework of that site and a clean db and i'd probably do it for SNES :) there is a site like that for PAL DC by the way, made by our member arcturius

http://dcarchive.technoweyr.co.uk/

[Buyatari]

The Grey was japan only. We're focusing GR on US side only. I don't recall the Sony engineer mentioning a PSone model. I beleieve the Green took care of that. Have pics?

All four were sent to US journalists. I have one of each. The grey psx is the first model with the av jacks. I think anyone to review ps1 in the long box era got these. The PSone is the hardest to find no doubt but there had to be more than 5.

The lightspan ps1 had some kind of sticker on it. I'll have to see if I can dig that out. Thats here in this mess somewhere.

Adam

[PapaStu]

Ive got all 3 US model Debugs thus far seen commonly blue H1001(AC),blue H1101(DC) and green H1201(AC). I'm pretty sure that ther are Alternate power supplied Debugs to the ones that I have, just i'm not currently hunting them(I've got one of each, i dont need to variant hunt these too). I thought that the early Grey Debugs were just Japanese units brought over here, though I could be wrong.
I lost the 10 Mil unit to you in that lovely auction back in August. ^_^ Kevin has the only other one thats shown up on eBay since yours. More will pop out of the woodwork eventually.
While were at it, lets not forget the US Net Yaroze, which I know DB and I have.

I know that at least to me the Proto's are a very hard call simply because unless they are on official discs, how do we know their validity (since ROMs like to float around on the net). I've personally got about 25 beta/proto/review copies of games, most of which have documentation and/or are on official media and since the person I got them from got them directly from source and the uniformity of things follows itself, i'm inclined to believe the legitmacy of them. Other ones are a little harder to prove simply because we can just toss these into the computer and poof, instant proto, so anything found on ebay and the like im much more leery of, though things do come up in time. They always do.

[Dangerboy]

On the brighter side of things, we have an update, and....an interview with one of the NBA 2 Ball programmers. =)

http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

Back to hunting down eidos emplo...I mean demos.

[PapaStu]

In case anyone cares..... The bane that i've spent a year upon (well close to it as it was this month) has finally been answered, however the disc art is still illuding me like no ones business (So if you have this and are willing to part with this PLEEEEEEEASE PM me). But it is nice to know that it does exist.

http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/alundra/packaging.html

The 'missing' disc art is the one directly under the cover-art picture.

In case anyone is counting that makes 9 disc arts, and 6 rear inserts (the other inserts showing are the back of the manual and behind the front insert) for Alundra, not the 9 that was originally expected. I guess they ran out of stuff to make rear inserts into.


The PS list has also had a major overhaul with the prices and some raritys (as well as some more descriptions added). I just need to get it off my PDA and updated onto the main copy on my computer and the update will be sent in ASAP. If I cant get it to update right, I'll have to manually retype it all and that might take another day or two, but expect a Online site update by the end of this week.

[Dangerboy]

Figured I'd chime in here too.

Besides the Game-rave update here:
http://www.game-rave.com/psx/index.html

I've been working with Stu (well, I'd call it work, others would call it crawling at a slow pace) of going game by game with the DP guide as I update Game Rave. We've already corrected several description and SLUS/SCUS errors, and other minor little things.

It's slow going, but it going.