Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger View Post
I have more than testimony and words on a page. I've proven pretty handily that UPC codes don't matter, at least in the context of what we're talking about. I call that pretty concrete. I've not seen anything like that from the other side.
No, you've proven that in today's market, they mean nothing. You haven't proven anything regarding the uselessness of UPC's in IDing where a game came from in this specific console's library . (Starting to feel like that's my 'Radiant Silvergun', cause I keep saying it)



Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger View Post
No, I'm pretty confident in people's assertions that the UPC only appears on a small number of Sonics and all of those individual items were sold in America. I'm not challenging that fact. So it's not like my argument is based on the possibility that some random Sonic with UPC showed up in Peru. What I'm saying is that even accepting that the Sonics sold in America were all given a UPC, that UPC does not make the game American. It doesn't make the game anything. It's just an arbitrary sticker.
Wow. So if the guy who was half-running the show says the sticker means it's US release, not arbitrary, you disagree based on... A game from 8 years later? DS UPC's? Beating the horse again... Different times, different consoles, different rules apply. Also, should we not defer to the experts who were there?

Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger View Post
Again, I've provided both concrete evidence and extrapolated logical scenarios based on the claims of others. That's why I keep hammering on Radiant Silvergun in the first place.
Concrete evidence that Radiant Silvergun had no sticker? Concrete evidence with DS games as evidence? You have shown nothing in regards to Sonic. Nada. 'Extrapolated' is the only word in that sentence I agree with.

Quote Originally Posted by TonyTheTiger View Post
As for your question, some specific intent to create a new version. See below. At least that would be the smoking gun I was talking about. Still an annoying and stupid situation but at least it would be something.
I believe them affixing a sticker over the UPC so they could sell it in the States shows some pretty damn specific intent. As does the adverts.