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Gameguy
04-10-2009, 01:30 AM
Have you even played it? Despite technical flaws and loosey-goosey programming, the game is epic in scope and is considerably more ambitious than a good 80% of all console games from that period.
People rip on Snake's Revenge to a ridiculous extent just because it's not the real Metal Gear 2. But really, the game fixes all the technical bugs with the first NES Metal Gear, and it looks and sounds phenomenal. My only beef with it is that it's level-based instead of giving you a big world to explore freely.
I've played both games, they're pretty terrible. I'm pretty sure they were only played at the time because people didn't have any other games to play. How many people actually played through the entire games?
What the hell happened to him anyway? He got booted off Youtube and then he's like... gone.
The only place I've found where he's still active is on another forum. I don't think he's made anymore videos. I actually liked his videos more than the AVGN.
http://www.metalgearsolid.org/PlayItBogart/
ReaXan
04-10-2009, 01:47 AM
I'm not sure why people hate Irate Gamer, I watch both AVGN and Irate Gamer as they're both alright. I do watch others too, there's plenty of good reviewers.
The whole angry reviews thing is getting a bit old actually, how many years can someone do the same act while keeping it fresh?
People look at Irate as a hack, I use to kinda dislike him too, but he is the sort of reviewer that grows on you.
I can only watch classic AVGN so much before getting uberly-tired of it, a different personality and approach sometimes isn't bad so its nice to have other guys who are classic game reviewers.
The reviewer I use to like is Nostalgia Critic, he is great and funny in small doses but overtime his over the top antics get sort of annoying.
ReaXan
04-10-2009, 02:58 AM
I'd love to see the AVGN review Tag Team Wrestling for the NES. That's one of the worst wrestling games - and video games - I've ever played.
ive had the same feeling for a while
the box use to bother me
"based on the arcade hit!"
Arcade_Ness
04-10-2009, 04:49 AM
Me and my brother used to play this back in the day. He thought it was cool, and I never got into it because I sucked at it. MGS is the only game out of the series I beat and enjoyed.
CelticJobber
04-10-2009, 05:20 AM
I know I'm in the small minority but I've never really liked any of the Metal Gear games, including the MGS series. But oddly enough, Kojima's lesser known masterpiece, Snatcher is one of my favorite games.
kupomogli
04-10-2009, 05:53 AM
I never liked the Metal Gear games either, actually. I'm a bit too impatient to actually enjoy any of the Metal Gear games. On the older games, because it uses the bird's eye view, you're forced to use either the camera or set your back to literally every wall to make sure there are no enemies because you can't very well view them without doing that.
Metal Gear Solid 3 fixes the problem and actually gives you a rotating camera, but now that 90% of the game is open areas, you have to use paint and different uniforms to cover yourself in alot of parts, that and wait for god knows how long to actually get by a group of people because you can only move while they're turned around or you have to specifically wait and look for a bit to see what directions they're taking.
So what do I do in the Metal Gear games(other than the first MGS since that one is the easiest in the series?) I get seen and proceed to kill literally everyone. But on MGS3, for all those people I killed, it took me about 37 hours to walk through the river of sorrow, then use the one pill after I ended up getting to the end and dying(which you use to proceed.)
One good thing about the Metal Gear series though. The storyline kicks ass. MGS3 easily has the best storyline in the series, the first one is also okay, and part of the second is good. Raiden whining like a girl 90% of the game ruins the entire story though. I've only played a few hours of MGS4. Far harder than 3 and you're required to use stealth in order to not get raped in a few areas(respawning enemies are also bullshit.)
When I was a kid I thought Metal Gear NES was pretty pretty cool, but I never owned it and it was only a single day which I played it. I clearly remember that beginning though which you had to restart over and over. I had the roms on my PSP awhile ago, but I ended up playing them again and hating them.
Graham Mitchell
04-10-2009, 10:57 AM
I played all the way through NES Metal Gear, and so did most of my friends. I honestly had no idea so many people hated it. I still really like it. I think it's fun having the huge inventory and figuring out how everything works. Yeah, the gasmask issue is stupid, enemy respawning sucks, etc., but at the time I just accepted that this was how the game works, and you have to work within those confines.
Rob2600
04-10-2009, 01:00 PM
I played all the way through NES Metal Gear, and so did most of my friends. I honestly had no idea so many people hated it.
Same here. Most of my friends and I owned and beat Metal Gear. We thought it was a really cool game. Where else could we sneak up on enemies, hide in cardboard boxes, and use cool items like gas masks and remote-controlled missiles?
Even at 10 years old, my friends and I figured out this wasn't a run-and-gun Contra-style game, but a stealth game that required different techniques.
As far as figuring out where to go, the game came with a color map. Problem solved.
The story kept us going, too. I remember near the end of the game, Big Boss told us to go into a room. When my friends and I did, we walked into a trap. Was this a mistake? We tried it again. Big Boss told us to go into the room again...and we died again. What was going on? Was this a glitch? Then, I figured out that Big Boss was purposely sabotaging us! He was working with the bad guys! Nice touch.
Was Metal Gear (NES) a perfect video game? No, but back then, it was really cool. That said, I like the AVGN's video and he makes valid points.
I feel the same way about his Top Gun video...it's funny, entertaining, and features valid points, but I was able to land on the aircraft carrier and refuel every time when I was 10 years old. :)
I feel the same way about his Top Gun video...it's funny, entertaining, and features valid points, but I was able to land on the aircraft carrier and refuel every time when I was 10 years old. :)
So was I, although I was slightly older (14) when Top Gun came out. :)
This point brings me to another question. I think the AVGN was just a casual video game fan in the late 80's and all throughout the 90's. I'm willing to bet the farm he was never the hardcore gamer/video gaming historian that so many of us here are. Although vastly more talented in acting and making videos, my gaming resume blows his away. :rockets:
elvis8atari
04-10-2009, 02:47 PM
I think the AVGN was just a casual video game fan in the late 80's and all throughout the 90's. I'm willing to bet the farm he was never the hardcore gamer/video gaming historian that so many of us here are. Although vastly more talented in acting and making videos, my gaming resume blows his away. :rockets:
He's a filmmaker. Not a super hardcore gamer. He's playing the CHARACTER of a video game geek. Not claiming to be the worlds most hardcore gamer.
Anyway, he's now releasing some movie reviews about the original star trek movies leading up to the 2009 prequel. Anyone going to go see that movie?
Here's the link
http://www.spike.com/video/cinemassacre-trek/3146903
He's a filmmaker. Not a super hardcore gamer. He's playing the CHARACTER of a video game geek. Not claiming to be the worlds most hardcore gamer.
Anyway, he's now releasing some movie reviews about the original star trek movies leading up to the 2009 prequel. Anyone going to go see that movie?
Here's the link
http://www.spike.com/video/cinemassacre-trek/3146903
I understand that. I didn't mean to sound like I was knocking him, I enjoy his videos more than the other imitators.
kupomogli
04-10-2009, 05:53 PM
I feel the same way about his Top Gun video...it's funny, entertaining, and features valid points, but I was able to land on the aircraft carrier and refuel every time when I was 10 years old. :)
I could land on the aircraft every once in awhile, but I've never once been able to refuel in midair. That said. I never owned the game and only played it a long time ago.
Blitzwing256
04-10-2009, 09:47 PM
i'm surprised to see so much hate for metal gear, I remeber loving it to death when it came out , I actually bought it after beating it back in the day. I do agree it had alot of bugs and WTF momments, but if you didn't have access or knowledge of the japakahuchi versions...it was a trully amazing game. metal gear snakes revenge was a very well done (but hard as hell) game . internerd hate is pretty anoying, but all your base belong to us or something.
IceDrake
04-10-2009, 10:18 PM
I'm a bit surprised he reviewed Metal Gear. I never played it and I'm not a big fan of MGS, I kinda assumed it was good. However, seeing him play it I can understand why he'd hate it. It's a complete bastardization of the original.
Tron 2.0
04-10-2009, 11:29 PM
I played all the way through NES Metal Gear, and so did most of my friends. I honestly had no idea so many people hated it. I still really like it. I think it's fun having the huge inventory and figuring out how everything works. Yeah, the gasmask issue is stupid, enemy respawning sucks, etc., but at the time I just accepted that this was how the game works, and you have to work within those confines.
That's what i like about the nes metal gear for how it played and it's theme.Even if the game,has it's flaws it seems like i see more hate for it today..then back then.Though these days there is the option to play the msx version at least.It is a shock to see how much diffierent is compare to the nes version.
elvis8atari
04-12-2009, 01:35 AM
Here's a little video he did on the board game Mouse Trap. I totally forgot about that game.
http://www.cinemassacre.com/new/?p=1105
Tupin
04-12-2009, 01:43 AM
I NEVER got the trap to work once. :bad-words:
Greg2600
04-12-2009, 02:37 PM
That mouse trap review was good. We had that as well, but other than setting up and executing the trap, the game was totally pointless.
As for Metal Gear, I was not a fan then, although I like the genre now. I didn't dislike the game, just wasn't into it. I've probably said it before, but the worst NES game I've ever had was Airwolf. Don't think the AVGN has done that one yet, which is surprising. It's worse than Top Gun by far in difficulty.
boatofcar
04-12-2009, 07:41 PM
So was I, although I was slightly older (14) when Top Gun came out. :)
This point brings me to another question. I think the AVGN was just a casual video game fan in the late 80's and all throughout the 90's. I'm willing to bet the farm he was never the hardcore gamer/video gaming historian that so many of us here are. Although vastly more talented in acting and making videos, my gaming resume blows his away. :rockets:
I agree, and that's what makes him awesome. Most "hardcore" gamers are about as fun to listen to as watching paint dry.
Also, you've brought this point up at least four times in this thread. We get where you're coming from already.
optic_85
04-12-2009, 08:05 PM
I love the fact that he did a board game review. Not that I want to see TOO many of these, but the fact that he did the review tickles me. The MGS review was the best in quite some time, the feelings and memories were all dead-on for me.
joshnickerson
04-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Damn, I had always planned on doing some sort of parody video of AVGN where I would review board games and complain about how much they suck, but he beat me to it!
Guess there's only one thing to say...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/joshnickerson/messageboard/nerds.jpg
Ruudos
04-13-2009, 05:04 AM
Here's a little video he did on the board game Mouse Trap. I totally forgot about that game.
http://www.cinemassacre.com/new/?p=1105
Cool, I used to have that game (muizenval here). The trap worked, but it was over when I lost the green ball.
VG_Maniac
04-13-2009, 05:01 PM
He hit the nail right on the head with his Mouse Trap review. I owned the game for years, but I never actually played it...I just set up the trap and kept triggering it to go off over, and over again.
Famidrive-16
04-13-2009, 07:28 PM
I was probably in the only family in the world that actually played the game straight. I never met a single other person whole actually played it the "right" way.
grolt
04-13-2009, 10:20 PM
We played the game straight in our household, but truth be told me and the brothers always preferred The Grape Escape. What other board game vaunts the ability to decapitate, stomp and crush your opponents in graphic detail?
Astrosmash
04-13-2009, 10:27 PM
He hit the nail right on the head with his Mouse Trap review. I owned the game for years, but I never actually played it...I just set up the trap and kept triggering it to go off over, and over again.
Although I have played Mouse Trap "straight" a few times, I have to admit that the first Mouse Trap set I owned came from a yard sale and although all of the trap parts were present, it was missing pretty much everything else, including the instructions and mouse player tokens. So I actually didn't even know until later that there was anything to the game other than building the trap.
kainemaxwell
04-20-2009, 08:52 PM
Awesome Metal Gear vid. The little I played of it as a kid I remembered all those flaws. I'm wondering if I should really try giving this a run on the DC sometime.
Enigmus
04-20-2009, 09:34 PM
I finally caught up to Jaguar Part 2, and the best moments were his idea of a Jaguar game involving power lines and weirdness, and the comments about the Jaguar CD looking like a toilet. Not to mention Death Kitty. LOL
boatofcar
04-20-2009, 09:43 PM
We played the game straight in our household, but truth be told me and the brothers always preferred The Grape Escape. What other board game vaunts the ability to decapitate, stomp and crush your opponents in graphic detail?
What is the name of that opera song in the Grape Escape commercial?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlrx2tnSw0U
Jorpho
04-20-2009, 10:43 PM
What is the name of that opera song in the Grape Escape commercial?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlrx2tnSw0U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funicul%C3%AC,_Funicul%C3%A0
IceDrake
04-22-2009, 12:17 AM
Review of the Magnavox Oddysey is up
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48329.html
7th lutz
04-22-2009, 12:17 AM
His latest video is now up. It on The Odyssey.
The link is http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48329.html .
tubeway
04-22-2009, 12:23 AM
Just like with the 7800 and Jaguar, I anticipate there being a lot of butthurt Odyssey fanboys trying to defend their system and cite every way in which James Rolfe was incorrect. We'll see.
chrisbid
04-22-2009, 12:30 AM
the odyssey is difficult to enjoy as a game system in this day and age, but it is extremely fascinating from an academic viewpoint
jcalder8
04-22-2009, 12:38 AM
To me this is his worst one.
Wait till next week when he makes fun of the people living in the 1800s for not having cars.
Sonicwolf
04-22-2009, 12:51 AM
I think that shit thing was incredibly dumb and irritating. Over all the video was pretty mediocre.
CelticJobber
04-22-2009, 03:39 AM
I didn't hate it as much as the Batman one with the annoying Joker last year, but the Turd thing was really fucking stupid. And I wish he would've shown the gun in its actual in-game application instead of the joke where it blew a hole in the TV.
Tupin
04-22-2009, 07:40 AM
This one was just okay. Not his best one, but not his worst one.
optic_85
04-22-2009, 08:14 AM
I liked it! Not as good as the MGS, but not too shabby. The content, and information wasn't the greatest, but it was a whole lot of fun.
Arcade_Ness
04-22-2009, 08:21 AM
The turd gimmick was a bit much imo, but not enough to ruin the video. I didn't know anything about the Odyssey, so I feel better informed. Video game consoles sure have come a long way.
joshnickerson
04-22-2009, 08:26 AM
The turd was incredibly distracting... and disturbing. But it was a nice history lesson about the system... I used to think Atari was primitive.
Great ending though. :)
boatofcar
04-22-2009, 08:35 AM
The difference between the Odyssey and the 2600 is that people who actually owned the 2600 in the first place actually have good memories of it, whereas people who bought the Oddyssey immediately regretted it.
Tupin
04-22-2009, 03:48 PM
Yeah, the Odyssey2 would have been a better option to review, because really, who owns these anymore?
otoko
04-22-2009, 03:50 PM
Yeah, the Odyssey2 would have been a better option to review, because really, who owns these anymore?
I have two I have yet to use.
elvis8atari
04-22-2009, 05:19 PM
The turd was just there because he needed a second player for the video. Whenever he does something that needs to be two player, he throws in some character. Like when he wanted to talk about the two player mode in Battletoads.
Anyway, Good video. Interesting to see such an old dinosaur and all the crap that went along with it.
CelticJobber
04-22-2009, 06:36 PM
The turd was just there because he needed a second player for the video. Whenever he does something that needs to be two player, he throws in some character. Like when he wanted to talk about the two player mode in Battletoads.
Anyway, Good video. Interesting to see such an old dinosaur and all the crap that went along with it.
I thought Kyle Justin was gonna come back from behind the couch again at first, and I have to say that would've been a little better than the turd.
Cryomancer
04-22-2009, 07:07 PM
I think he just wanted to try the effect.
Glad to see the gun getting some more exposure, it is a really neat accessory. Also cool to see the games actually being played since I was always a couple peices short of being able to actually play mine.
I didn't know anything about the Odyssey, so I feel better informed.
It's HIGHLY UNLIKELY The Nerd knew anything about it either before the video.
boatofcar
04-22-2009, 09:56 PM
It's HIGHLY UNLIKELY The Nerd knew anything about it either before the video.
You mean he didn't know about something before he learned about it? I can't believe it!
darkslime
04-22-2009, 10:02 PM
I wish he showed us some of the gameplay with the gun instead of ending it, I'm kinda curious to see how it works.
Jorpho
04-22-2009, 10:23 PM
I once had some Etch-a-Sketch overlays that worked kinda like that. Those things were awesome... and I bet they were a whole lot cheaper in 1972 as well.
I wish he showed us some of the gameplay with the gun instead of ending it, I'm kinda curious to see how it works.I imagine you fire the gun at the little white dot while someone else moves it around on the screen. (Although considering that there's no sound or evidence of scorekeeping, I do wonder how it would register a hit, come to think of it.)
tubeway
04-22-2009, 11:10 PM
I was always a couple peices short of being able to actually play mine.
C'mon, man, nobody here thinks you're crazy... you're too hard on yourself.
Snapple
04-22-2009, 11:39 PM
For comedy, today's video wasn't great. For demonstrating Odyssey games, I thought it was really interesting. I haven't seen a real Odyssey, and the video was really educational.
And it's not like he was trashing the system either. He called it primitive, but... I mean, it was primitive.
boatofcar
04-22-2009, 11:56 PM
For comedy, today's video wasn't great. For demonstrating Odyssey games, I thought it was really interesting. I haven't seen a real Odyssey, and the video was really educational.
And it's not like he was trashing the system either. He called it primitive, but... I mean, it was primitive.
True dat. I found the piece o crap character annoying, but I imagine there is no single video on the internet with as many Odyssey games played and features explained.
You mean he didn't know about something before he learned about it? I can't believe it!
No, I mean he didn't know about it until recently. I love his videos, but he is no video game historian. Hell, he wasn't even born when it was released.
Gameguy
04-23-2009, 04:06 AM
No, I mean he didn't know about it until recently. I love his videos, but he is no video game historian. Hell, he wasn't even born when it was released.
You don't have to be born and live through something to be a historian of a subject, if that were the case there would be no historians for any event prior to 100 years ago(give or take). He doesn't go into details with his videos but he probably knows more than he mentions, he just keeps it simple for most viewers as it's mostly for entertainment.
It wasn't one of his best videos, but it was about average. I really could have done without that piece of poo as the second player. :|
otoko
04-23-2009, 04:06 AM
No, I mean he didn't know about it until recently. I love his videos, but he is no video game historian. Hell, he wasn't even born when it was released.
Hey, he tries. I very much doubt there's a true video game historian. If there are (I'm pretty sure I may be wrong on this (My guess DreamTR could be one)) very few must exsist. Mainly because I don't see the practicality of having all that knowledge. Also, I have seen people who claim to be historians of videogames that I have been able to smoke out with my knowlage.
I guess that adds to me skepticizm.
/roundaboutwaytomakeapointthatIdon'tknowifitwaswort hittomakereally..
It wasn't one of his best videos, but it was about average. I really could have done without that piece of poo as the second player. :|
Agreed.. I was kinda expecting the guy who preformed the intro theme to make another appearance. I would've preferred that.
mnbren05
04-23-2009, 04:38 AM
Always wanted to see the Odyssey game play, now I know I wasn't missing much. The rifle is one of the coolest features though. Hopefully Nerd Turd is done making appearances, quite annoying/boring for an AVGN character.
I don't see the point in berating a system from 1972, which commenters seem to be doing more than the video did.
But anyway, there was a segment on the panel game show I've Got a Secret from 1972 where guest Rod Serling and host Steve Allen were playing tennis without an overlay. It's interesting to see actual 1972 reactions to it. I think I have it on tape somewhere, but unfortunately, it's not on YouTube.
guitargary75
04-23-2009, 09:08 AM
The turd sucked.
You don't have to be born and live through something to be a historian of a subject, if that were the case there would be no historians for any event prior to 100 years ago(give or take). He doesn't go into details with his videos but he probably knows more than he mentions, he just keeps it simple for most viewers as it's mostly for entertainment.
It wasn't one of his best videos, but it was about average. I really could have done without that piece of poo as the second player. :|
You're right, you don't have to live through it. I myself wasn't born when the Odyssey came in in March 1972 (I think that's the date). My problem with him is I would bet the farm he's a recent convert. I really don't think he knows that much about anything before the NES. However, he did do a pretty decent job in his last video, minus the
Hey, he tries. I very much doubt there's a true video game historian. If there are (I'm pretty sure I may be wrong on this (My guess DreamTR could be one)) very few must exsist. Mainly because I don't see the practicality of having all that knowledge. Also, I have seen people who claim to be historians of videogames that I have been able to smoke out with my knowlage.
There are a quite a few. I can tell you this, the admin of this board Joe certainly is. I'd like to consider myself one, but no where on the same level as Joe and several others on here and elsewhere. :)
Sonicwolf
04-23-2009, 01:54 PM
The turd sucked.
I agree. it was extremely annoying.
ShinobiMan
04-23-2009, 03:11 PM
The nerd finds a great balance between comedy and educational stuff in his vids. One week its all about the funny, the next it's all about the facts. I enjoyed this Odyssey video, as I too had no knowledge of how it worked. Everything James has put out has been valuable on some level.
Graham Mitchell
04-24-2009, 12:44 AM
As usual, I don't agree with anyone in this thread as I found the turd to be pretty funny.
Tron 2.0
04-24-2009, 03:23 AM
As usual, I don't agree with anyone in this thread as I found the turd to be pretty funny.
I thought the joke was tired more of the same gross humor.Dunno...maybe "the avgn is runnng out of ideas" or he thought it was the only way to keep the viewer attention.Still i now know,what kind of console the odyssey was.You could say a board game for your tv.I did laugh at the end when he shot the tv with the lightgun though.
Daria
04-24-2009, 08:28 AM
It seems like after every video there's a ton of people that show up just to bitch about his language and humor. If you don't like his style why continue to watch his show? There are other reviewers on youtube that focus on straight up facts without all the theatrics. Let the man have his fucking schtick. :P
Graham Mitchell
04-25-2009, 03:42 AM
It seems like after every video there's a ton of people that show up just to bitch about his language and humor. If you don't like his style why continue to watch his show? There are other reviewers on youtube that focus on straight up facts without all the theatrics. Let the man have his fucking schtick. :P
Actually, I'm pretty flabbergasted at the amount of criticism I read about this totally free entertainment every time a new video comes out. What is there to be so disappointed about? There's essentially no tangible investment on the viewer's part.
Sonicwolf
04-25-2009, 03:53 AM
Personally I wasnt dissapointed, I just found the turd irritating. I remain a supporter of the AVGN. Most of my angst gets directed to that Irate gamer.
Gameguy
04-25-2009, 04:22 AM
I think most people are disappointed with his recent videos and complain because they miss the quality from his earlier videos and are hoping that the quality will rise again. The quality kept getting better up until he switched to Gametrailers, then it peaked and stayed around the same level(while dipping a few times). People will only move on to other people when they stop caring, but that would be worse for him.
I was expecting the intro music guy to return for this, it seems a bunch of other people expected this too.
tubeway
04-25-2009, 05:12 AM
However, he did do a pretty decent job in his last video, minus the
Minus the? Minus the what?
MINUS THE WHAT?!??!?!
AHHHHHHH!
tubeway
04-25-2009, 05:12 AM
Also, I have seen people who claim to be historians of videogames that I have been able to smoke out with my knowlage.
Wait, so how exactly did sharing pot with them....
....what?
joshnickerson
04-25-2009, 07:12 AM
Actually, I'm pretty flabbergasted at the amount of criticism I read about this totally free entertainment every time a new video comes out. What is there to be so disappointed about? There's essentially no tangible investment on the viewer's part.
Comic Book Guy: Last night's Itchy & Scratchy was, without a doubt, the worst episode ever. Rest assured that I was on internet within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.
Bart: Hey, I know it wasn't great, but what right do you have to complain?
Comic Book Guy: As a loyal viewer, I feel they owe me.
Bart: What? They've given you thousands of hours of entertainment for free. What could they possibly owe you? I mean, if anything, you owe them.
Comic Book Guy: Worst episode ever.
aaron7
04-25-2009, 08:24 AM
turd = crude, but funny and fitting.
It really does look like a toilet guys. For serious.
Kamisama
04-25-2009, 10:06 AM
The turd sucked.
Agree ;)
But the Video was cool. It was funny and to be honest I've seen an odyssey in action for the time in my life. Pretty interesting.
Although you can say that you didnt miss much, its interesting to see the first approaches to video gaming. I mean, its not like they could get Ideas or Inspirations from other systems, so they probably did a good job, where the other companies could improve from at a later time.