The Official Angry Video Game Nerd Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 23

Zap!

12-03-2009, 01:58 PM

Everything was properly covered. It was Castlevania as he personally remembers it, not a full review of every CV game ever. I don't know why people find that so hard to understand.

I understand that and wasn't criticizing him at all all. I loved the series of videos he did, and agree with him that Castlevania IV was a favorite of mine as well. I was just saying I wished he had covered LOI, but it's all good.

kupomogli

12-03-2009, 04:38 PM

I don't mind most of the sound fx in Bloodlines, and neither of the games have very impressive effects to me.

The sound effects sucked. Whenever you killed some enemies it had a sortof screeching sound that was irritating to listen to.

The level design is a step back?

The level design definitely wasn't a step back, though the length of SCV4 and how all the levels were standard type level based rather than a bunch of unique effects. Bloodlines is amazing but it's not as good as most of the other level based titles because its levels are less of your standard platforming and is one of the shortest Castlevania games with just a couple levels with unique ideas.

Bloodlines is a tragedy. It could have been something awesome and refined and.. whatever. The only reason I'm thankful that they game even exists, is for the sequel PoR on the DS. That game was fantastic (although a little too short :/ ). Second only to OoE.

You say that you like PoR and OoE are the best yet don't like Bloodlines and also talk about how bad the level designs on Bloodlines are? While PoR does have better levels than OoE, both have pretty crappy level designs overall.

The majority of PoR is in the paintings. Once you enter a painting it's honestly point A to point B. You're just walking down a path with absolutely no direction to change other than the small direction change to get an item and then back the way you were previously going. Also to mention that nearly every background and every room in PoR looked exactly the same. There were some paintings that had a little bit of exploration like SotN, AoS, HoD, and DoS, but almost none.

OoE was even worse. Half of the areas in OoE were straight lines. That's it. The graphics on OoE were amazing, I'll give you that, but the stages were again, nothing more than point A to B. Sure it had rooms that were off the beaten path but they were nothing more than a screen that had a save point in it and maybe a treasure box.

Both games are decent, PoR being much better, but far from being the best in the series. They'd be the worst exploration based CV games if not for Curse of Darkness.

Urzu402

12-03-2009, 10:47 PM

so wheres the new video?

GarrettCRW

12-04-2009, 02:20 AM

New video, Little Red Hood, is up. (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/59650)

kupomogli getting butt hurt in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.......

PresidentLeever

12-04-2009, 02:51 AM

The level design definitely wasn't a step back, though the length of SCV4 and how all the levels were standard type level based rather than a bunch of unique effects.

Was what, good? Bad? As I said earlier, length doesn't matter much if I'm not having fun. SCIV is only fun for half the game if played on normal difficulty. Bloodlines also has longer levels overall than the other classic style games.

I'm glad it's less "standard platforming" because with the 'vania controls, platforming isn't fun.

MrRoboto19XX

12-04-2009, 03:15 AM

Ah man, I thought this video was great, his sarcasm was really top of the pops this episode. Props to the guy for reviewing a game that I think was only released where women glow and men plunder. It also looks like he's picked up a new camera or lighting kid, because the production quality is pretty slick.

Zap!

12-04-2009, 03:32 AM

At first I though it was a bad title edit by calling it little Red Hood, or they couldn't get the license to Little Red Riding Hood. I was wrong.

http://i.ebayimg.com/24/%21BgYy4fgBGk%7E$%28KGrHqEH-DMEsJhYS,QQBLFE47GnGQ%7E%7E_12.JPG

Sosage

12-04-2009, 04:04 AM

kupomogli getting butt hurt in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.......

Bug Bunny pooped on gif on stand by.

Fun episode. I'm not sure I really want this cart now.

Balloon Fight

12-04-2009, 04:17 AM

I used to own this Sachen piece of shit called Little Red Hood. His review is 100% accurate, its such a garbage game.

kupomogli

12-04-2009, 12:21 PM

Actually thought the Little Red Hood review was good. The only reason I complained about the last Castlevania review is because he really didn't review Bloodlines, just mentioned told you about the characters, not as good as SCV4(which it's not) and then talked about SotN.

I'd have expected this one to be better though. It's a 15 minute long review on a single game. Good ending to this review as well.

Zap!

12-04-2009, 05:23 PM

Good ending to this review as well.

I liked the game's ending. Hysterical! :D

Spoilers..........................................

OH! MY DEAR LITTLE RED HOOD! THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMING!

Famidrive-16

12-04-2009, 06:50 PM

If he's talking about the walkthrough I'm thinking of, that's pretty funny.

I hope he gets a chance to review one of the Dragon Co. stinkers one day, like Tom and Jerry 3 or Wait and See. I think he'd cry if he had to suffer through W&S.

Raedon

12-04-2009, 07:38 PM

I can't believe someone actually played Little Red Hood. It's like watching someone torture themselves.

Zap!

12-04-2009, 07:42 PM

I now need this game CIB. No luck searching eBay so far.

vivaeljason

12-04-2009, 07:55 PM

elvis8atari

12-05-2009, 01:47 AM

It's funny how if the AVGN reviews a game, then everyone wants to own it. A week ago, nobody would have ever cared about this game. Now everyone wants it. Right now, nobody wants Mission Cobra, but if AVGN reviewed it, then everyone would want it. I can understand why though. He reviews a game in a funny way, and makes you think about it, in a way you otherwise wouldn't have. And seeing the game through his eyes makes it more desirable I guess. Anyhow, funny episode.

Famidrive-16

12-05-2009, 02:13 AM

I played the ROM of this several years back and I totally don't want to play it again after AVGN reviewed it.

Owning it? Well, could be a nice novelty.

Zap!

12-05-2009, 02:41 AM

Quite funny, as always. I've heard of the game, but had never seen gameplay before. Seems like Little Red Hood is just must-own.

I DEFY someone to defend this game like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde gets defended. DEFY!

My friend loved DJAMH. At the time we were big Goonies II fans, and he lent it to me, saying I will love it because it's like Gonnies II. I played it for a few days and never once played it again. That was 21 years ago.

Ruudos

12-05-2009, 06:32 AM

Hey, I'm seeing Rad Gravity in the intro.

Richter Belmount

12-05-2009, 06:35 AM

Small heads up , Stuttering Criag in his podcast stated that avgn volume 3 is on its way before christmas. I cant wait to preorder my copy.

kupomogli

12-05-2009, 11:57 AM

I liked the game's ending. Hysterical! :D

The best part about it is when he was cussing about how crappy of an ending it would have. Then the ending. "You did not disappoint."

Greg2600

12-05-2009, 03:20 PM

Very funny from the nerd. I'd never heard of that game either. It looked like something that could have been on the 7800 not the NES. Surprised he missed the blatant lifting of graphics from Zelda and SMB.

Urzu402

12-05-2009, 08:01 PM

what is the boxing game in the intro to the newest video with the guy punching a robot?

vivaeljason

12-05-2009, 08:26 PM

what is the boxing game in the intro to the newest video with the guy punching a robot?

That would be Power Punch II, which was supposed to be Mike Tyson's Intergalactic Power Punch. It was released for the NES and was a piece of garbage.

megasdkirby

12-05-2009, 09:01 PM

That would be Power Punch II, which was supposed to be Mike Tyson's Intergalactic Power Punch. It was released for the NES and was a piece of garbage.

I enjoyed the game a little. It wasn't the worse game out there (for me, Ghost and Goblins has that title), but it does require lot's of practice.

I could never beat the last guy, though. I tried and tried, to no avail. I recently saw some playthroughs of the game, and the person made it look so easy. I should give it a spin.

Concerning the AVGN video, it was pretty good, to be honest. I liked the fact that he was focusing more on gameplay than cinematics, which is always good. The swearwords seemed a bit out of place, though. But overall the video was quite good.

Never understood why games were so cryptic back then. Though the same can be said to some newer games as well.

Ryaan1234

12-05-2009, 11:58 PM

Concerning the AVGN video, it was pretty good, to be honest. I liked the fact that he was focusing more on gameplay than cinematics, which is always good. The swearwords seemed a bit out of place, though. But overall the video was quite good.

Never understood why games were so cryptic back then. Though the same can be said to some newer games as well.
I agree with this. I like that the AVGN survived all the way to the end to get a complete picture of the utter crappiness of this game. I own one Sachen game (Tagin' Dragon) and based on how awful that is I can only imagine the badness of Little Red Hood.

One minor thing that bothered me was that he kept on calling the trees in the game "palm trees". Every time he said that I thought "WTF, AVGN, that's bamboo" or at least it looked like bamboo to me. This game seems to be some sort of Sachen game based on a Chinese/Korean/whatever story with merely a sprite change to make the main character look like Little Red Riding Hood. That's why the whole "bamboo" theory makes sense to me. They were too lazy to change the tree sprites.

Urzu402

12-06-2009, 10:44 AM

but he still has a point, what kind of bamboo produces cherries?

Gentlegamer

12-06-2009, 12:02 PM

I didn't know Masterbating Bear (from Conan O'Brian) was in a video game!

elvis8atari

12-06-2009, 12:07 PM

but he still has a point, what kind of bamboo produces cherries?

Exactly. Regardless if it's a Palm tree or a Bamboo tree, it doesn't matter. Cherrys don't fall out of either. So the AVGN is correct.

Also, Ryaan1234. You say that you liked everything, and that was the one minor thing that bothered you. That's fine. But why do people have to point out the one thing that bothers them? If you liked everything else about the video, as you said, why focus on just the one thing that bothered you? How about listing all the things that you DID like about it?

I'll tell you why. Because we live in a world of cynics. :grumble: Who don't know how to do anything but complain about what they don't like, and don't mention the things in life that are good.

Greg2600

12-06-2009, 12:07 PM

James hasn't reviewed Power Punch II has he? I'm sure it would make quite a review, too. It's one of the worst games I've ever played. It bears a good bit of similarity to the original Punch-Out, but is so difficult it's no fun at all.

Urzu402

12-06-2009, 01:48 PM

Jorpho

12-06-2009, 01:51 PM

So why does little red hood, have to have another game pluged into it when using an original NES , when other unlicensed games dont?There are several different ways of defeating the NES lockout chip. Evidently when the cart was produced, the manufacturer just didn't have access to any of those cheaper ways.

Tupin

12-06-2009, 01:59 PM

Yep, HES, who brought Little Red Hood to Australia from what I'm assuming is a pirate original, did not have the technology to do what Tengen or Codemasters or even Color Dreams did.

When used in a normal NES, Little Red Hood has to have a licensed game on top of it because it piggybacks off of its lockout chip. That's not needed in an NES 2, but the AVGN plugged in a Game Genie, a Famicom pin adapter, and a Famicom game just to demonstrate it I guess.

Enigmus

12-06-2009, 06:02 PM

So why does little red hood, have to have another game pluged into it when using an original NES , when other unlicensed games dont? also what are the things besides the game genie he plugs into the top of it.....

To bypass the lockout using the liscensed cart's chip, my dear Watson. who is overly concerned with broken Sega CDs and AC adapters. Also, use capitals. Seriously.

Urzu402

12-06-2009, 06:34 PM

i knew about the lock out chip, i was just wondering about the question he asked why it needed a game in it and other unlicensed games dont.

EDIT yes my question was answered

elvis8atari

12-07-2009, 07:40 AM

Are there any other games like that? With the lockout chip that needs to be bypassed?

Jorpho

12-07-2009, 10:41 AM

Are there any other games like that? With the lockout chip that needs to be bypassed?If there were, Mr. AVGN probably would have mentioned them.

There are probably some hopelessly obscure pirate multicarts (or even single carts) that no one cares about that use a similar design.

vivaeljason

12-07-2009, 06:11 PM

Are there any other games like that? With the lockout chip that needs to be bypassed?

Other than Super Noah's Ark 3D for the SNES, which was mentioned in the video, I don't believe so. As Jorpho mentioned, there might be some really obscure games, but those two are the best known.

RPG_Fanatic

12-12-2009, 10:46 AM

AVGN Vol. 3 DVD is for sale now, ordered mine.

http://www.ScrewAttackStore.com/avgn-vol3.html

elvis8atari

12-12-2009, 01:46 PM

I'm also ordering one. It has NES Accessories, my fav episode.

Famidrive-16

12-12-2009, 05:25 PM

Are there any other games like that? With the lockout chip that needs to be bypassed?

I had some game boy player for the N64 that required a first-party N64 game to be plugged in.

Ruudos

12-13-2009, 11:48 AM

Are there any other games like that? With the lockout chip that needs to be bypassed?

Well I have Maxi-15 Pack which is like that. It's an Australian HES game.

Famidrive-16

12-17-2009, 05:56 PM

AVGN is pushed to next week, along with news of Board James.

AVGN � The Nerd�s annual Christmas episode will be out next week.

BOARD JAMES � I have not abandoned this show in any way. Since Monster Madness and all the extra videos I�ve been pumping out, I�ve had no time for an episode in a while, but I�ve been trying. In fact, the next board game is literally set up on my floor waiting to be filmed. When I get to it, it�ll be a short basic episode similar to the MouseTrap episode and after that, eventually, we�ll get crazy with Motherfucker Mike again.

guitargary75

12-17-2009, 07:43 PM

I love the Board James episodes! I can't wait for that one!

kupomogli

12-20-2009, 07:40 PM

Been over two weeks and still no new AVGN video.

GarrettCRW

12-20-2009, 08:10 PM

Do you even bother to read new posts in this thread before whining like a two year old?

ryborg

12-20-2009, 08:23 PM

Been over two weeks and still no new AVGN video.

yo, don't post

guitargary75

12-24-2009, 12:21 AM

Here is the new one!!
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/60232

Rob2600

12-24-2009, 12:44 AM

Here is the new one!!
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/60232

I had Winter Games on the NES and it was certainly a piece of garbage...but I was able to get good scores in the hot dog, figure skating, and bobsled events. Speed skating was hopeless.

I don't know if any other versions of Winter Games were fun, but the NES version wasn't, even when I got good at it. It was a waste of $50. How do the other versions compare? Are they all boring and poorly programmed?

Great ending, by the way. :)

Garry Silljo

12-24-2009, 01:10 AM

I remember enjoying Winter games on the Apple IIe we had when I was younger. There were a lot more events though and it wasn't difficult to control at all. I hate the NES version.

Sosage

12-24-2009, 02:09 AM

I remember playing this on multiple platforms and having the same issues James had. Just a lot of head scratching and pushing buttons. I'm sure there is a method to the madness, but it all seemed really cryptic and random.

Zap!

12-24-2009, 02:49 AM

Great ending, by the way. :)

It did make me laugh, and he put a lot into it. However, no matter how bad it is, destruction of anything video gaming related (especially if it's old) upsets me. I wish he would stop doing that.

Sonicwolf

12-24-2009, 04:29 AM

It did make me laugh, and he put a lot into it. However, no matter how bad it is, destruction of anything video gaming related (especially if it's old) upsets me. I wish he would stop doing that.

He doesnt do it very often...

Im glad to see him getting a bit more uppity over the games he reviews again. He has been a bit reserved in the last few months.

Frankie_Says_Relax

12-24-2009, 09:29 AM

I had Winter Games on the NES and it was certainly a piece of garbage...but I was able to get good scores in the hot dog, figure skating, and bobsled events. Speed skating was hopeless.

I don't know if any other versions of Winter Games were fun, but the NES version wasn't, even when I got good at it. It was a waste of $50. How do the other versions compare? Are they all boring and poorly programmed?

Great ending, by the way. :)

All of the "Games" titles (Summer, Summer II, Winter, California, World) were fantastic on the Commodore 64.

EPYX was truly at home on the C=64 hardware and it showed in nearly every one of their releases.

*Granted, every entry in the "Games" series does require some time spent with the instruction manual to figure out the control method for each event ... but since they were olympic style skill games, the expectation was that scoring high would require learning and then practicing each event to reach gold medal level skills.

(I recall busting my ass to wow the judges on Hot Dog and Figure Skating ... it's not easy, but it's certainly possible, and satisfying when you do.)

Of course James' assessment of the gimpy port NES version of the game seems reasonable, EPYX didn't really rock the NES hardware like they did the LYNX ... but come on, how many NES games WILL function properly if you just smash on the buttons and d-pad the way he was at the end?

Penguin

12-24-2009, 09:35 AM

Another great review by James, the only thing s that if he would have looked at the instruction book for Winter Games he would have at least had a better idea how to control the games. Although it doesnt do too much good as the game is terrible (personal experience). :P

joshnickerson

12-24-2009, 10:44 AM

It did make me laugh, and he put a lot into it. However, no matter how bad it is, destruction of anything video gaming related (especially if it's old) upsets me. I wish he would stop doing that.

I think he's mentioned in the past that he uses "stunt carts"... if you look carefully at the beginning of the video, the cart he pulls out of the box has a torn label, but the cart he tosses into the fire has an intact label. Perhaps he had a hollow reproduction made, complete with a sticker, just for that purpose.

Greg2600

12-24-2009, 10:46 AM

I have Summer and Winter Games for 7800, because they were somewhat okay on there. EPYX should never have attempted to move to the NES. Their games were clearly designed for computers of the time, and the NES versions should have gotten a lot of polishing. An example of a classic software developer which was not able to step up their game to the new hardware. But they did develop the Atari Lynx.

Daria

12-24-2009, 12:20 PM

I had Winter Games AND California games as a kid. California games was at last playable. Winter Games was a piece of shit. It was the sort of game you'd flip through in desperation to find something anything to play. You fell down a lot, ranked 0.0s, and sometimes sloshed the bobsled halfway through the course. Sadly the opening cinematics were the best part.

Urzu402

12-24-2009, 12:23 PM

Heh I have Winter Games for NES, never played it but I have it.

kupomogli

12-24-2009, 12:27 PM

It was an okay review. Anyways, I thought California Games was somewhat decent.

vivaeljason

12-24-2009, 04:03 PM

A very good review, and as noted by Sonicwolf -- the anger has clearly returned.

World Games, by the way, is also a piece of crap. Never played Summer of California, so I can't comment.

ryborg

12-24-2009, 04:07 PM

It did make me laugh, and he put a lot into it. However, no matter how bad it is, destruction of anything video gaming related (especially if it's old) upsets me. I wish he would stop doing that.

Oh no, the extremely common, essentially worthless cartridge was ruined! Won't someone please think of the children!? He ruined an inanimate object for comedy's sake very successfully (even you admitted you laughed). He didn't kick a dog in the face or push someone's grandma down the stairs.

Awesome vid, great intro, great ending. I like when he rips on non-obvious, easy-target games. Like everyone else who played it on the NES, I hated Winter Games as a kid, but I haven't thought about its gameplay in probably 15 years.

I am also shocked, shocked, SHOCKED that kugompogli just thought it was "okay."

tubeway

12-24-2009, 04:36 PM

I thought the video was just okay as well. I was expecting more humor in the review. I think that it's also a really bland and narrow game that didn't lend itself that well to critiquing, since there really isn't a lot to discuss. I mean, he spent at least a minute just talking about the name entry screen. Perhaps I would have enjoyed it more if I'd actually played the game before viewing it.

Balloon Fight

12-24-2009, 04:44 PM

Great review for another shit game. Another game that when I got it, I played for a few minutes, then shelved it.

Ruudos

12-24-2009, 06:31 PM

Sosage

12-24-2009, 09:19 PM

Heh I have Winter Games for NES, never played it but I have it.

Stop this charade. You don't play games. You just play forums.

darkslime

12-24-2009, 09:29 PM

The nerd is getting better after a streak of crappy videos!

Kitsune Sniper

12-24-2009, 09:33 PM

Are we even sure Epyx did the NES port? I mean, maybe they didn't. There were lots of companies who did ports like those back then.

vivaeljason

12-24-2009, 11:51 PM

Are we even sure Epyx did the NES port? I mean, maybe they didn't. There were lots of companies who did ports like those back then.

Of Winter Games? The title screen on boot-up says "Winter Games - By Epyx."

CYRiX

12-25-2009, 01:03 AM

Another person that would wish he'd stop destroying games (I know he doesn't do it often). I found myself triyng to find excuses like "he printed out a label and put it on a duck hunt" etc.

CRV

12-25-2009, 02:10 AM

Of Winter Games? The title screen on boot-up says "Winter Games - By Epyx."

The NES version was done by Atelier Double (http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Company:Atelier_Double) for Pony (later Pony Canyon). It was originally released for the Famicom Disk System in Japan.

Even the original C64 version wasn't by Epyx; it was by Action Graphics (http://gdri.smspower.org/wiki/index.php/Company:Action_Graphics) (Incredible Technologies was started by former staff after that company folded.).

The worst parts of any Epyx Games game are generally those involving running (I'll throw speed skating in there.) or swimming (but not diving). I eventually kinda figured out figure skating on Winter Games on my C64DTV.